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HELLO! meets YouTube stars Jonathan and Anna Saccone-Joly as they launch their brand new children's book.
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00:00Hi everyone, I am here with Jonathan and Anna, or the Ciccone Jolies, as you also know them.
00:06Hello. Hello. Hello, and welcome to Hello.
00:09We are here to talk about your latest production.
00:12So we're used to you producing babies, and we're used to you producing YouTube videos,
00:16but this was a bit of a departure, wasn't it?
00:19We're trying something new.
00:20Tell us about your book.
00:21Three babies, six dogs later, 4,000 videos, 8 years, let's make a book.
00:26How did it come about?
00:28I just think, I think when you become a parent, you kind of see what your kids are engaging with,
00:34and all you want to do is entertain your children.
00:36You know, we're not cool anymore, we don't do like cool party stuff.
00:40We do go to parties every weekend, but they're normally like Peppa Pig, or Tom, yeah, which is all right,
00:46actually.
00:46You get used to it, and then we're like, oh, let's bring out like, you know, a book,
00:51and like, let's do something that'll make us look cool in front of our kids, you know,
00:55and now we'll get to, you know, I think next week I'm going to the kids' school,
00:58and I get to like, read the book, and they get to look up and be like, that's my dad.
01:02Oh, that's lovely.
01:04You know what I mean?
01:04Did you used to find that you would snuggle up for bedtime stories and be reading these,
01:07and some books are great, and some books, you know, the rhymes don't quite go,
01:11and I used to find with my kids, I'd be like, I could do this.
01:14I think I could do one like that.
01:16Well, and I read some more complicated books, you know, I read the picture books.
01:21They're all picture books.
01:22What?
01:23I can just make up the story as I go along.
01:26Yeah, we, the bedtime reading routine is like a big part of our lives,
01:32and a big part of our children's lives, and I breastfed all of mine,
01:36and I feel like the bedtime story replaced the breast, the last feed, which is the last one to go,
01:42and I think Jonathan, that's where he kind of came in,
01:45because he always said that he felt almost a little bit left out,
01:49because he couldn't breastfeed, so he couldn't have that bond with them,
01:53but then when they got to that age where we replaced it with the bedtime story,
01:56he got to have that bond, and it's really nice that we can both do that now.
01:59I heard about one or so, I'd come in like, hello, I'm your father, pleased to meet you.
02:03I know I'm the guy in the background who's just like, not mom.
02:06He's just like, who's that guy?
02:08He drives me places, like, what do you have involved in my life?
02:11Now it's my turn.
02:12Now it's your turn.
02:13Yeah.
02:14So you've taken it seriously, not only are you reading the books,
02:16you're going to write them too.
02:17Reading the books, I'm writing the books, proper.
02:20So how did you come up with your story?
02:22It's actually based on a true story.
02:25We have six dogs, for real, and we have the kids,
02:28and Amelia, our eldest daughter, has been going on about wanting a cat.
02:33Because what do you do?
02:34When you have six dogs, of course you want a cat.
02:37And Anna, when she was growing up, your mom had cats, and all you wanted was a dog.
02:41Yeah.
02:41So I guess you always just want the thing you can't have.
02:44Yeah, exactly.
02:45So we, also the dogs, for years that we've had the dogs,
02:49we've always made like personalities and voices around them.
02:52We've always voiced them because they show a certain personality,
02:55and then like Bianca, we kind of like make her the way she is,
02:58and Theo, and Nevea, and Newbies, and Zina, and Albie.
03:01So in the story, it relates, people who watch our videos and kind of know our dogs and what they're
03:07like.
03:07When they read the story, they're like, oh, that is so Bianca.
03:10You know, that's what she would do.
03:12So Bianca finds out that Amelia wants a cat,
03:15and then she goes downstairs into the basement and has this like emergency meeting,
03:19and explains to everybody, like, Amelia wants a cat.
03:22So we're going to go and catnap a local cat for Amelia to make her happy.
03:27Goes terribly wrong.
03:29No spoilers, okay?
03:31Book is available today.
03:32Go ahead and work out of yourself.
03:34Find out what happens.
03:35Yeah.
03:35So you've been meeting a lot of your fans, your YouTube followers,
03:40doing this book launch, like through this project.
03:43And I guess in a way, I suppose a lot of mums and dads too, I suppose,
03:46tune in to watch your thing.
03:48But this is a way of sharing their relationship with you, with their children, isn't it?
03:53I feel like a lot of people for years, because in our episodes, in our videos,
03:56we do feature the nighttime routine a lot, and we feature reading books.
04:00And I've seen people saying, oh, I can now like read along with you.
04:04You know what I mean?
04:04They get the cat in that book, and they see it in the videos,
04:07and they feel like, oh, yeah.
04:08And so many of our audience, because we started this nearly a decade ago,
04:13when we started this, we were just like out of college, you know what I mean?
04:16Trying to find our way in this world, and we're just our boyfriend, girlfriend.
04:20And some people have watched that evolution happen.
04:23And some people, when we meet them, like, now they're married, and they have kids.
04:26And we're all having kids together, and we're all growing up together.
04:29So it's like most of our audience all have kids now.
04:32And so what's it like, actually, and for you, Anna, as well,
04:35meeting these people who have been growing up with you?
04:38Now, they know you, but you obviously don't, I guess, to comments,
04:41you know them a little, but you don't know them.
04:43Has it been cool?
04:44Yeah.
04:45It's amazing.
04:46I always say that it kind of reignites our passion for why we actually do this,
04:52and why we decided to do it from the beginning,
04:55because we never really wanted fame or even fortune.
04:59We just wanted to do this as a hobby, and then it grew into something else.
05:04And I think it's that interaction that's what kind of made it so special
05:08that you, the idea that you can reach out to so many people
05:11without even knowing them, but you actually have so much in common,
05:16or you could have so much in common with people that you don't even know.
05:18It's amazing.
05:19So to have that, like, face-to-face conversation with people is just incredible.
05:23I do like to know that I am funny.
05:26I make jokes all the time with the vlog, and then I just put it down,
05:30and, like, I hope they're loud.
05:31Did that one.
05:32The next day or so I'll hear the back, but then when you see people in real life
05:35and you have a bit of banter with them, and then you're like,
05:37okay, okay.
05:38It's not all in my head.
05:40This is actually real.
05:41Trying to explain that to my mother a few years ago was difficult.
05:45Does she think you're not funny?
05:46Well, she's like, Jonathan, you went to university for four years, okay?
05:49Like, I'm a bit concerned about you.
05:51You're talking to yourself professionally.
05:54But she kind of gets it now.
05:56Yeah.
05:57What's been the most surprising encounter that you've had on this tour?
06:00Has anything sort of funny or extraordinarily happened while you've been meeting?
06:04We went to Hello Magazine.
06:05Well, that was obviously a highlight.
06:07Oh, that's it.
06:08We've peaked now.
06:10I think seeing, like, going on tour and then realizing, like, almost a thousand people
06:16and some of those ones who showed up to buy our little book, and then, like, it does
06:21what Anna said, the re-ignition, because it's been probably over a year.
06:25We suffered tragedy last year, and then we had a child, another baby, and we just, we had
06:29our third child, so that was hard.
06:31So we kind of closed up a lot, and we were just sort of, like, kind of isolated ourselves
06:36to be, to just kind of, like, get through what had happened, and then get through having
06:40the next baby, and then the kids were both in full-time school now, and it's all a new
06:44phase of our life we need to get used to.
06:46And then we sort of, like, okay, we're going to release a book, and I was like, oh, people
06:49are buying our book, okay, people still like us.
06:51And then we went on tour, and we saw everybody, and I just, I really feel like, you know,
06:56I want to do this.
06:57I feel like, yeah, I'm really generalized.
06:59I'm just being able to work.
07:01Publish author.
07:03Now, you're back, putting your toe back into work as well, aren't you?
07:07Yeah.
07:08Your other ones, oh, it's still very little, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's
07:11six, seven months.
07:12Seven months, okay.
07:13Yeah.
07:13I haven't met her yet.
07:14Two more months now, I don't know.
07:16She'll, she'll be, yeah, she'll be, you'll be useful.
07:19Yeah.
07:20You've got yourself a little bit of childcare, and you're blogging again, and you've released
07:24a jewellery line, is this right?
07:26Tell us about it.
07:26So I released it two years ago.
07:28Okay.
07:28So this is the first time in two years that I've done anything different.
07:33Oh, okay.
07:33Yeah.
07:34They kind of, they wanted, the company that I'm working with wanted me to release things
07:38along the way, but I just, I'm one of those people that has to, I have to go all in,
07:42I'm all or nothing.
07:44Yeah.
07:44So because I was in such baby mode, I just couldn't, I couldn't get my head around, I
07:50can't really multitask.
07:51I'm not like a typical, I mean, I feel like a lot of women are good at multitasking, but
07:55in our family of works, the opposite.
07:56So I'm like, he's really good at multitasking and I'm not.
07:59On camera now.
08:00I can do one thing really well, but I can't really seem to dedicate myself to different
08:04things.
08:05So now I kind of feel like, okay, she's over, we're over like the six month hump.
08:10Let's do something different.
08:12So yeah, I brought out, it's a set of three and you can buy them, they're three necklaces
08:18and you can buy them individually or together.
08:20And it's just something different and something that I kind of like, I like to wear them anyway.
08:25So I thought people might like to wear them too.
08:28And I think the response that I've got has been, has been good so far.
08:31Are you an artistic kind of person?
08:32Is that, is designing jewelry something that comes easily?
08:35It actually...
08:35You like receiving and wearing jewelry.
08:37Who doesn't?
08:38It didn't start as that.
08:40It started as my dad had given me a piece of jewelry, this one here, which is a Scorpio
08:46necklace.
08:47And he was Scorpio.
08:48I'm Scorpio.
08:49And I wore it on my wedding day.
08:51And then ever since then, I kind of just never took it off.
08:54And people used to ask me questions constantly about where I got it, how they could get one
09:00similar.
09:00And I didn't have an answer because he bought this in Italy in like the 1930s.
09:05So it originally I decided to create something that was like that and that everybody could
09:11wear.
09:11So I did the whole, all the signs of the Zodiac and that's how it kind of originated.
09:16But I, since then I do like wearing jewelry and I just kind of have like branched out from
09:22that.
09:23And they're all kind of similar, but they all have meaning behind them as well.
09:27And do you find that it's people, people that are buying it are people who follow you
09:31on your blog and are sort of really invested in your story anyway.
09:34So it's sort of a meaningful purchase.
09:37And I think it's nice that people can, because I try and personalize them.
09:41So like I've got this one here as a birthstone and then the Scorpio one is obviously the
09:46Zodiac.
09:46And then I've got constellation ones as well.
09:49So there's one for everyone.
09:50And then if people have like children and they want to, you know, wear their birthstone or
09:55their star sign, I think that's really nice too.
09:57Or like somebody that's passed away that they love and miss.
10:01I think it's always a sentimental piece.
10:04Like a lot of people that I meet, even at the meet and greets for the book tour that I've
10:08met have been wearing it.
10:09And I compliment them every single time.
10:12I'm like, Oh my God, I love your necklace.
10:13Thank you so much for, you know, for getting it.
10:16And it's almost always comes with a story.
10:18Like, you know, this is my mum's birthstone or this is my mum's star sign.
10:23And, you know, I bought one for me and one for my mum or my granny bought me this.
10:27You know, it's always personal.
10:28So I love that.
10:29Yeah.
10:31Now, parenting, blogging and vlogging, the one criticism that gets sort of leveled at
10:35it is that, you know, you can make everything look perfect and easy.
10:39And the reality is parenting isn't perfect and easy.
10:41It can make people feel, you know, that they're not achieving that.
10:44But I think that you guys are different, aren't you?
10:46And you do admit that sometimes things aren't as great or as easy as they are.
10:51Do you, was that important to you to sort of, yeah.
10:54I think you have to be responsible in a way, you know what I mean?
10:56Because, like I said, our goal was never to be, like, famous, to never, like, have a big show.
11:01It was just like, oh, let's document our life.
11:03You know what I mean?
11:04We've been doing it for nearly a decade.
11:05And in that, like, if you went back to our whole catalogue of videos, there's lots of, like, doom.
11:11You know, the politics of organising a wedding.
11:14Like, oh, it's crazy who is sitting there.
11:15There was so much family drama.
11:17And we spoke about that.
11:18We had a smaller audience then, so it felt like more like we could.
11:21You know, and as having children.
11:23And it's hard, like, and life isn't all Instagram filters.
11:27You know what I mean?
11:28Like, you know, but we try and show that.
11:29We also, like, Anna is amazingly beautiful.
11:32So, she always looks perfect anyway.
11:35And I'm always just roughing it behind, you know?
11:38That's not true.
11:38Yeah, we're just trying to be, like, honest.
11:40And trying to give people, like, this is more realistic what life is kind of like.
11:44Yeah, I think sometimes even I, especially, like, just after having a baby, you go on social media and you
11:51just feel so crap.
11:52You're just like, how is it that every other mum seems to have their stuff together and I don't?
11:59And my life feels like it's falling apart.
12:01So, I really, I never ever want to make anybody else feel that way.
12:04So, I always am as upfront as I can possibly be about the fact that none of us have our
12:10stuff together.
12:11Everybody's, you know, feeling, every mum feels guilty.
12:14Every mum feels like they're failing sometimes.
12:16Every mum feels, you know, that they could do better.
12:20And we love to compare ourselves to everybody else.
12:22And I think social media is terrible for that.
12:26But then, at the same time, it can go in another direction if you try and, you know, if you
12:30try and do something different and show people that actually it's okay to not have it all perfect all the
12:35time.
12:36You did, I was reading one of your blogs this morning when I was, you know, checking out what your
12:41latest post had been.
12:42And one of them was just about, I think, you know, we're six months in and I just feel like
12:46everything's a bit crazy and a bit mad.
12:48Yeah.
12:48But that's so normal and I think it's really important for mums who are going through that to have someone
12:54to relate to.
12:54And some people are lucky enough to have that in real life.
12:56But some people are surrounded by people who are sort of also pretending that everything's completely fine and easy.
13:01So I'm sure it must be very useful for those sorts of people.
13:04Yeah, I hope so.
13:05Yeah.
13:06There's a flip side to that because when you're honest, you invite people to come in and criticise you.
13:12Yes.
13:12So you get a lot of criticism, but then you have to go, it's worth it.
13:16And like I said, you know, when we went to that tour and we met everybody and people come up
13:20and they might cry and they might hug you because I've been there for them and honestly there for them
13:26in a moment in their life.
13:27And they needed that companion.
13:29Had we not been honest because we didn't want to get the criticism, I wouldn't have been able to reach
13:34that person.
13:35So it's like, well, I'm going to take on this cost of getting ridiculed online, but at least I know
13:40I'm reaching people and just the people that need to be reached.
13:43So have there been times where the criticism has got to you or have you developed such bigger skins?
13:50No, we're humans.
13:52Like, you're normal people, you know, I feel more like I think children ground you.
13:56They don't allow you to.
13:57If we didn't have kids and we lived in London and we were like cool and went to like cool
14:01things, I'd probably feel more like, yeah, I'm famous.
14:04But I don't.
14:05I'm just like, we live.
14:06We just, I just came back to the school run this morning.
14:08You know what I mean?
14:09Fed the kids and the school run back here, dropped off last year.
14:12We came on the train.
14:13Like, we're just normal parents.
14:14Yeah.
14:14That keeps you quite grounded.
14:16You know what I mean?
14:16And of course, like criticism, the things you do, like little criticisms that you just think like, ah, they don't
14:23really affect you too much.
14:25But the other stuff when they attack your parenting stuff, I think that's because that's your weakness.
14:29You know, that's where you feel more vulnerable.
14:32You know, because your kids are the most important thing.
14:34But I think there's no right and wrong with kids.
14:37Yeah.
14:37We're doing it wrong.
14:38We're doing it right.
14:39You know, I'm doing it right.
14:40I'm doing it wrong.
14:41You know.
14:42I try and show her the way.
14:45I try and help her out.
14:46You know.
14:47Show me the way.
14:48Show me the way.
14:50Show me the way.
14:50Do you, do you ever get, because I can, there are, you know, there are trolls online, aren't there?
14:55People who go out of their way to try and say horrible, nasty things.
14:59Have you, do you have, do you read all of your comments or do you have rules that there are
15:03some things that you don't read?
15:04Or I think.
15:06Yeah, I kind of, like you want to, you want to engage with the people, you know what I mean?
15:09That, that, that, you know, get involved in our content.
15:12And you try and look past it like, but you know when you're reading something that's like, if I upset
15:19somebody by something I've said, which I do it all the time because I say some stupid things sometimes.
15:23Then I know I'm like, oh, whoops.
15:25You know what I mean?
15:26Because now, like, you know, you can, I'm Irish and I'm, I'm in my little bubble.
15:30So I might know about other things that are going on in the world and I might say something.
15:34And because you're such a large global audience.
15:35And they'll be like, oh, whoops, sorry.
15:37I didn't mean that.
15:38That's, that's fine.
15:39Yeah.
15:40You can criticize me.
15:40I'm like, oh, your car is dirty.
15:42Yes, my car is dirty.
15:43But when people come in and sometimes like body shaming or body shaming my children.
15:48And you're going like, they're made.
15:49Like, you know what I mean?
15:50So as you're reading that first line, no offense, but I'm just going to stop right there.
15:54Once you put that but in, it's okay.
15:56I don't need to know.
15:57You know it's one to skip.
15:59And with the kids starting school and has it been, are there people like, you can imagine
16:04doing the school run.
16:05I mean, I guess you're not there with your, with your, you know, with your cameras not
16:08logging the school run.
16:09But are there people that have been nervous, like meeting you in real life who maybe have
16:14followed you or know that your vloggers are sort of, you know, when you invite someone
16:18around for tea, are they sort of thinking, is it going to, am I going to be on YouTube?
16:22What's it going to be like?
16:23Yeah, I think so.
16:24When we first joined the school, yeah, a lot of parents were curious.
16:26Yeah.
16:27I remember the first day we went into the school, dropped Amelia off and we were like,
16:31right, I'm just going to walk you to the playground.
16:32I'm just going straight to the playground.
16:33You go pro on your hand.
16:34No, no, no, no.
16:35It was more like, it was more like all the kids that are in the school, you know, and
16:38we're like, just get it out of the system.
16:39We went through and all the kids were like, oh, no, no, no.
16:41And then after one, now it's calm down.
16:43And they're like, ah, they're used to it, you know.
16:45Yeah, a lot of parents, you know, would be more guarded.
16:47We wouldn't say anything.
16:48But then over the year of getting to know them, they would slowly be like, yeah, okay.
16:52I'm watching this.
16:53You can hear this.
16:56I don't know how you feel, but I feel like I forget anybody who watches my videos.
17:01I forget all the time.
17:01And then sometimes I'll be talking to someone and they'll be like, yeah, I saw what you
17:04did last week, but I'm like, how did you know that?
17:07Yeah.
17:07Oh, yeah.
17:08I forget anyone who watches the videos.
17:11Yeah.
17:11I totally separate it.
17:13Like, I just think it's a different world.
17:15I don't know.
17:16It's weird.
17:17And of course, you know, I always go through just thinking, just feeling like normal.
17:21I feel like our whole town allows us to be that way, though.
17:25That's what we're still here.
17:26They're very accepting of who we are.
17:28They always have been.
17:29No one's ever had any issues with, but then we're very, I feel like we approach it very
17:34carefully.
17:35Like, we never show their school uniforms, like their crests, you know, their school uniforms.
17:40We don't film anywhere near the school.
17:43We're very protective of, like, them and also their friends.
17:46So, you know, if there's friends over, we'll always either just not film at all, or if the
17:51parents...
17:51Or there's some of the friends who we know.
17:53Media has, like, half of her friends are on camera because parents don't care, and the
17:57other half, the internet will never know about.
17:59Exactly.
18:00You know, and they're the ones we never talk about, and we respect everyone else's privacy.
18:03I think for the first year, people were a bit more, like, cautious about us because
18:07they weren't sure.
18:08Now we're in the school a while, and we're part of the school, and now they're like,
18:11yeah, yeah, they're just the weirdos that film.
18:13It's alright.
18:15And do the kids know?
18:17Do the, you know, the kids that...
18:18I mean, obviously your kids know that they're being filmed, but do the kids that come around,
18:22do they know your kids as the sort of YouTube stars?
18:25No, no.
18:26I don't want them to.
18:27We don't really allow our children, not allowing them, but a lot of media is friends.
18:33We'll be on Instagram now, they're kind of anti-YouTube, and they're all like, oh,
18:36I want to set up a channel.
18:37Whereas our kids are probably the most anti-internet because we're very protective,
18:42we know what the internet is, so we're like, oh, no, hold on, you want to make a video?
18:46Just make it on Dad's channel because then I can control what she's saying and what she's
18:50doing and not making any, like, mistakes.
18:52But I think we want them to stay as grounded as possible.
18:56Like, Amelia doesn't know that there's, like, millions of people know who she is, but it's
19:00better that way.
19:01Yeah.
19:01You know, better for us.
19:03I don't want that kid.
19:04I wonder what's going to happen.
19:05There'll be a time, my eldest is 11, they're just starting getting into all of that sort
19:10of, there's going to be a time at which point you're going to not have that control, isn't
19:13there?
19:13I wonder, wasn't she as prolific as you?
19:16You know, what are you going to do?
19:17You're going to be in competition.
19:18Um, I don't, I don't really know.
19:20Again, like, what are we talking, it's going to be on under five years probably until I,
19:24like, five years, like, who knows what?
19:27It'll be virtual reality vlogging, or you don't know what's going to be on, like, or, you
19:31know.
19:32What if we actually, she would say that, you know, it's like, oh, it's forever.
19:36Like, yeah, the internet is forever, but realistically, if I stopped vlogging today and never vlogged
19:39again, by next month, no one even remember me.
19:42You know, it moves so fast.
19:44There's so much people doing this now, and it's so big.
19:47It's like, you just, the minute you take your foot off that accelerator, you're gone.
19:51Yeah.
19:51You know, so, I know that we can, we can turn it off if we wanted to, but I think
19:56we're
19:56still having fun.
19:57I think it's good.
19:57I think it's the best job I've ever had that allows me to work, you know, run my own business
20:03quite successfully, and then, yeah, I get to do the school run every morning.
20:06I get to collect the kids from school every day.
20:09I get to put them to bed at night, and it sometimes helps, you know.
20:12Well done, Annie.
20:15You know, breastfeed the baby out again, I don't know, whatever that's about.
20:19You know, it allows us to, you know, have our dogs and our kids, and still work hard,
20:26but no one notices the work hard, you know.
20:29How do you choose what's off limits?
20:30Because obviously, you have been honest, you mentioned that you suffer miscarriages,
20:34you give birth.
20:35There's no limits really with us.
20:37We don't, like, share our intimate life online, we don't really talk about that stuff.
20:41But with the children, there's huge boundaries that we say, like, you know, we got comments
20:46where people say, oh, you're lying, your kids will never have tangents.
20:49I'm like, are you serious?
20:50Like, they're kids, like, they fight all the time.
20:53We, as adults, we fight all the time as well, and it's difficult.
20:57What we do is like, well, you're never going to see the kids fight on camera because it's
21:02not like, I feel like, I wouldn't want that of me as a child.
21:05So you never see that.
21:06You never saw the kids potty training.
21:09You know, you're never going to see...
21:10Or us disciplining them.
21:12Disciplining them, yeah.
21:13Yeah.
21:14There's a lot of stuff that we put on.
21:23But I think we always kind of made the decision, like, talking about it after the fact is fine,
21:28as ourselves, but actually showing that, I don't know.
21:32And it gets more and more complicated.
21:34Now, sometimes Emilia might talk about her best friend, a certain name, and then I go,
21:39I'm going to edit that out because I know that that certain person might watch, but so might
21:43her other best friend.
21:44Yeah.
21:45Because you have a lot of best friends.
21:46It's quite fickle at that age, actually.
21:47You know?
21:48When she has boyfriends.
21:49Cool.
21:50But, you know, so you're just trying to think like, well, I shouldn't allow her to say,
21:53I shouldn't allow her broadcast that because that's like a private internal conversation
21:58that shouldn't be had, and that could cause problems for her.
22:00So it's trying to figure out...
22:02You've got to think of a lot, actually.
22:03Yeah.
22:04The younger they are, it is easier.
22:05Like, Alessia hasn't, you know what I mean?
22:08She had a marshmallow, I guess, there for the first time.
22:11That's just true.
22:11That was the highlight of the day.
22:12Yeah, that was it, yeah.
22:14So you've done, you've done, you know, you're obviously, you're very successful blogging,
22:18blogging careers, and now you've reached, you know, branched out into your books, and
22:23you're already doing your jewellery.
22:24What's next?
22:25What plans do you have for world domination?
22:28I really, I'm gonna, I like to, when we start a project, we stay focused on our project,
22:33and the Ciccone Jolies and the Great Cat Map, and there's going to be more books, and hopefully
22:38maybe an animation series, and stuff like that, you know.
22:41I'm coming for you, Peppa Pig.
22:43But yeah, hopefully, you know, we can build, because, I realize that the videos that we
22:49make, I'm not sure, you know, as life gets more complicated, it'll always be me and Anna,
22:53but people want that family story, and as the kids get older, we're going to have to be
22:58more mindful of their privacy, so I feel like I'm creating a new platform to tell the same
23:03story, it's still Ciccone Jolies, and whatever the thing is that's going to happen, and then
23:08you can tell a story with the kids, and the dogs, and the family, and it's fiction, and
23:13it's printed, and it's just, I think it's just a safer space.
23:16Now, if you guys want to go, go to the level of the place.
23:18This is an out-of-the-art.
23:18movies, and then, with the family, and the family, and the family.
23:19And, once you get older, it's just an out-of-the-art.
23:20And in my life, that's just a nice man.
23:20And I think you're going to start and draw a lot of things in my life, and I know
23:20So, that's a great idea.
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