00:01First of all, welcome to INS.
00:03Thank you, Jarek.
00:04First of all, congratulations.
00:06You have won your journey on the Alliance.
00:11Some people are saying grace under pressure.
00:15So, where was your turning point?
00:17Where did you feel that the game is getting your control?
00:21Grace under pressure is a big compliment.
00:24I think I have seen this game in a way.
00:32I didn't think I wanted to learn more about politics.
00:38My biggest strength was that I played the challenges in the arena.
00:44I am so competitive.
00:46I was in this reality show for that.
00:49And I played it in a single scene.
00:53And the rest of the headquarters of the drama,
00:57I played it with my personal moral compass.
01:00I didn't have a choice.
01:02I didn't have a choice.
01:04I didn't have a choice.
01:05And I didn't have a lot of arguments with anyone.
01:09Where I thought I wanted to give my point of view,
01:11because I saw it.
01:13I saw it.
01:13I saw it.
01:14I saw it only for 24 hours.
01:17But in the rest of the hours,
01:19there were a lot of things in the rest of the hours.
01:22There were a lot of things in the rest of the hours.
01:23There were a lot of things in the rest of the hours,
01:25which were fun, fun and empathetic vibes.
01:28We played this game.
01:30And the turning point,
01:32I thought that when I finished it for three weeks,
01:34I finished it.
01:35And then,
01:36I thought that now,
01:37I have come in a hole.
01:39How does this game play?
01:41And now,
01:42I won't play more chess moves like this.
01:45But,
01:45I played it like I used to play with empathy.
01:49But,
01:50I improved my focus and clarity a little bit.
01:53And when you are playing well in the arena,
01:55when you are playing well,
01:57you become so strong,
01:58powerful player,
02:00powerful ally,
02:02that people don't get a choice.
02:04But,
02:05you need to improve.
02:07Some contestants have said,
02:09that you are the strongest in building trust.
02:11Is the reality show more important?
02:13Or is the smart gameplay?
02:15For me,
02:16the trust is more important.
02:17Because,
02:17the gameplay comes to everyone.
02:19And,
02:19the gameplay is exposed at any point of time.
02:22Because,
02:23the gameplay is based on trust.
02:23It is based on trust.
02:24If you trust someone,
02:26then,
02:26you make gameplay and strategy.
02:29I thought,
02:29that trust is the most important factor.
02:32I have built relationships with them.
02:35I have built a genuine affection with them.
02:38That's why,
02:39after leaving home,
02:43I am in touch with everybody.
02:45There are plans to get everyone.
02:46And,
02:47with anyone,
02:48my bad blood has not happened.
02:52even rival alliances,
02:54I think,
02:55that,
02:55you know,
02:57Aghu,
02:58and Arsalan,
02:59my rival alliance,
03:01I really like them.
03:04And,
03:04I love them.
03:05without a doubt,
03:06without a bad thing,
03:07I have played this game.
03:09I am glad that I built trust,
03:11not hate.
03:12This was your first reality show,
03:14because,
03:14contestants and
03:15contestants,
03:17and game players,
03:18were also experienced.
03:20So,
03:20in the beginning,
03:21the learning curve was challenging.
03:22And,
03:22what did you surprise me?
03:25Wow,
03:26good question.
03:26Yes,
03:27there were a lot of reality show veterans,
03:29and,
03:29I was a fresher of reality show.
03:32Probably,
03:32that's why,
03:33I have never had a real vision,
03:36that,
03:36that,
03:36that,
03:36that,
03:36that,
03:36that,
03:36that,
03:37that,
03:37that,
03:38that,
03:38that,
03:38that,
03:39all of the time,
03:39that,
03:40that,
03:43performance,
03:44not really well,
03:44but,
03:44it was not a focus of winning,
03:46but,
03:47at worst of all,
03:47I had only realized it was one challenge,
03:49and,
03:50I think,
03:52that,
03:52enthusiasm,
03:53that,
03:54and that,
03:54that,
03:54that,
04:06that,
04:09But I don't want to be known like that. I want to be known exactly as I am. Authentic. So
04:16I played a game like that.
04:18And the learning curve was my first two weeks when I knew that. But I thought that the cast of
04:28this alliance was not quite new.
04:30There were a lot of people who didn't do reality shows before. So everyone was learning together. So that was
04:36nice that people didn't come with preconceived notions.
04:41What was the most surprising thing was that I felt so fun. I never thought that I would cross this
04:48six weeks and say,
04:50Ah, it was great. I thought that I would have to take therapy. I would have to get very tired.
04:56I would have to get sick. I would have to get sick.
04:58But I don't feel anything like that. I am feeling the sharpest, most focused, most fit I have felt in
05:06a long time.
05:06And I remember the time and date of my phone. I didn't even remember that my phone was there. I
05:16think this was the best detox ever.
05:19Okay.
05:21Now the audience has seen you as a host and a presenter. Allianz has taken out of such a side.
05:28So what do you think of yourself?
05:32Yes. As a host and a presenter, you listen to the story of the eyes and eyes and eyes.
05:38You create a connecting bond with the audience. I was just giving content. I was just giving entertainment.
05:48So I never thought that I would be able to live with 16 people 24-7 cameras. You know, I
05:57would be able to do something that was inspirational.
06:01This was a competition with myself. And I was surprised to myself. Because I had a potential unlock that I
06:10didn't think of myself. And I am eternally grateful to Alliance for that.
06:15In the reality show, smart gameplay and dirty gameplay.
06:20But in the reality show, the topic of a different sector debate. So where do you think of yourself, where
06:25do you draw that line?
06:25Where do you think of yourself as a strategy?
06:29people in a wrong way perceive it?
06:33Look, manipulation is a part of the strategy.
06:37If you want to play someone under because we have to go up on the tracker board
06:43or perform someone, eventually their strategy will come.
06:48This is all part of the game.
06:49But if there are any personal attacks or any gender or any personal comments
06:56or a lot of fun effects, the toxicities in the whole house.
07:04I don't believe in that.
07:05There should be a very fine line between this game and this game play
07:10and this is our strategy to survive in the game.
07:19The second part is not at all necessary according to me.
07:23And hopefully, from this win,
07:26the other reality shows that you don't have to be down and dirty to win something.
07:31You can be straight, you can be sharp, you can be manipulative and strategic
07:37and you can be a woman over 50 and still win the game over guys who are 25.
07:43It's okay.
07:44Last question.
07:46Kushal was the only polarizing contestant.
07:49He has a lot of contestant's hatred.
07:52But what do you think that he has underestimated?
07:55He has all been against him.
07:58But he has become a stronger competitor.
08:01I think Kushal was just being himself.
08:04He didn't do this for the camera.
08:05I think he has a lot of problems in real life.
08:10He plays on the front foot, aggressively talking.
08:13He is his mannerism.
08:14And his fans probably like these things.
08:18I am nobody to judge that.
08:20I didn't have to be a psychologist there or become a psychotherapist.
08:23In some instances, I said that I felt that he could tone down his aggression and talk about it.
08:29But he didn't feel so.
08:30He felt that his fans like this.
08:35He also got a lot of isolation.
08:37But I think that one thing is true.
08:41He has supported those things in the first week.
08:46He has supported them for 6 weeks.
08:48Whether they are Sohail Bhai or Reba or I am.
08:51He told me that you are my priority in the first week.
08:54And he has supported them for 6 weeks.
08:57Even though I disagreed with him.
08:59I fought with him.
09:00I told him where to get off.
09:03His allegiance was on my side and his respect till week 6.
09:09So I have nothing negative to say about Kushal Tandan.
09:12Lastly, what was your reaction to Kabeer sir when the trophy came to me?
09:17I think my whole family didn't expect that I would survive without my phone and without my people and without
09:28my lifestyle and without my everything that I hold dear to me.
09:31But when I came back, I was so surprised that he was so into the game.
09:37There were all WhatsApp chats.
09:39My family and my friends were discussing every single action of every single contestant.
09:45I think maybe in my career there will be any show before Kabeer was so invested.
09:51So I was very amused and I am sure he is very very proud of me.
09:55Like my children and my family.
09:58It has not sunk in yet.
09:59I have left out of my house.
10:01I had no idea of what atmosphere outside of my house and what people are saying about me.
10:05But it is giving me a double lease on my life.
10:09Ma'am, is there any other reality show?
10:13It is not.
10:14It is my business that I am launching this year on women's health.
10:19So this is my commitment.
10:21I don't know if I can do captive reality.
10:25But like I have learnt from this game, never say never.
10:29Thank you Ma'am.
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