00:00You yourself started as an engineer, you then went to a business school, you then went into civil services.
00:05So such life-changing decisions, what drives it?
00:09I was not going to write code for a shipping company and that was the project I was put in.
00:14And IT was sunrise sector at that time, late 90s.
00:17Write code and I knew what was being shipped.
00:20Why should I facilitate that?
00:21Yes, now you have cleared the UPSC, be a bureaucrat.
00:24And I could see what the bureaucrats have to obey, whose commands have to be carried out.
00:30Why should I get into that?
00:31And then I was into consulting and I could see whose bottom line am I fattening?
00:35And why should I contribute to the coffers of some Lala Ji sitting somewhere?
00:40Then I was in the media and I could see what was being served there and how and with what
00:45intent?
00:46And why should I be a participant there?
00:47It was very simple.
00:50So when you say kindly explain your extraordinary and heroic decision, I'm at a loss.
00:56Because there was nothing extraordinary in that, nothing heroic in that.
01:00Nothing special there.
01:01It was all very obvious, very ordinary, very simple.
01:04The question boom ranks.
01:05You explain how you manage to get into obviously complex and ugly things.
01:12How do you afford to do that as young men and women?
01:15How do you convince yourself into the wrong jobs and the wrong relationships?
01:19How do you do that?
01:20You need to explain to me.
01:22I'm interested.
01:22I'm listening.
01:23Yeah.
01:23How do you do that?
01:24How do you do that?
01:26It's the thing about being human.
01:27If it's right, it's right.