00:00Have you heard of Enemy before?
00:01Yeah, of course.
00:02Oh, excellent.
00:03That's good.
00:03Needs no introduction.
00:05Emma Stone once asked me if it was the enemy, like as in the enemy.
00:08Like, are you enemy number one?
00:10And I had to convince her for about the first five minutes of the interview that I didn't
00:12hate her.
00:13And then the interview was done.
00:15Who's looking after your wife and son?
00:19Do you see?
00:20My dad is coming home.
00:23Bringing vengeance.
00:27Bringing it all.
00:28Hi, I'm Alex Menamee, and today I'm joined by two legendary, maybe mythical, even godlike,
00:34you know where I'm going with this.
00:35From Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey, it's Matt Damon and Anne Hathaway.
00:39Hello.
00:39How are we doing?
00:40Great.
00:40I feel like you were just describing two other people, but I'm just going to lean in.
00:44Thank you for that.
00:44Lean into it.
00:44Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:45You had me at godlike.
00:47Matt, this morning you looked in the mirror and you just said, yeah.
00:50Yeah.
00:50That's a godlike reflection.
00:53I don't think it's a spoiler to say there are sirens in The Odyssey.
00:55We only hear the score when Odysseus hears the siren song.
01:00And I'm desperate to know what you were imagining that song sounded like when you were acting.
01:05Because you must have had something to sort of get your performance going.
01:08Yeah, well, Chris wrote a beautiful, there's that scene that I have with Himesh just after that where I describe
01:15what I heard.
01:16So I was thinking about that and everything that he says to Eurylochus and, you know, what he heard and
01:22thinking about things in my own life.
01:25I mean, it's very much about getting to my age really and the regrets and, I mean, it's just such
01:34a beautifully written.
01:35And so that's really what I was thinking about in that scene.
01:38I was hoping that you were going to say something like, never going to give you up.
01:41That would have been a better answer.
01:44Because the house wanted lunch.
01:44Yeah, yeah.
01:45Morgan Freeman once told me that.
01:47I had lunch with Morgan Freeman and asked him about a certain scene that I always wondered.
01:52And he said, I don't know, son.
01:54I was probably thinking about lunch.
01:57But there are going to be memes at that moment, though, you know, that they're going to set to different
02:00songs.
02:00Anyone who doesn't like a band is going to send a performance to that song.
02:02Oh, I actually hadn't thought of that.
02:04That's right.
02:05And it's going to be all other ones.
02:05That's right.
02:06So it'll be, yeah.
02:07Are you going to kick it off?
02:08Do you have a meme ready to go?
02:09Do you have a song in mind?
02:10Well, now I feel like I should do.
02:12But I said never going to give you up.
02:13So maybe I'll rick roll.
02:14Never going to give you up is a good one.
02:17Something like Creed, you know.
02:19Which famously you performed in Happy Feet 2, I think.
02:23Never going to give you up.
02:23That's right.
02:24Oh, my God.
02:25That's right.
02:26That was my one brush with George Miller.
02:28It was a great honor to work with George Miller.
02:31So as you've already proved, you know that NME is a music magazine.
02:34I know that you both have pretty incredible concert histories.
02:39I've sort of been doing some research.
02:40And I thought we could go through them and sort of like just get some of your memories from those
02:43gigs.
02:44Cool.
02:44Let's start with you, Anne.
02:45Your first gig was incredibly Alanis Morissette supported by Radiohead.
02:50Yes.
02:50No, stop.
02:51Yeah, that was my first concert.
02:52Oh, my God.
02:53I mean, amazing.
02:55That's the problem.
02:56What was amazing was the Radiohead vibe.
02:59I mean, I was still, I was very, very young and I was with a group of friends and our
03:02seats were like way up and way, very far away from the stage.
03:05But Radiohead was, and who I've seen so many times since then, was so amazing.
03:11And the thing that was so fun was because I guess they hadn't totally broken through yet, but then Creep
03:14came on and it was like that song that everybody knew.
03:18Yeah.
03:19And so we were all singing along back at them.
03:21Yeah.
03:21And then Alanis came on stage and I'll never forget her entrance.
03:25She just ran out from the side and just burst into the center of the stage.
03:28And we must have been tens of thousands of people at the Medellins, but we were all just with her.
03:33And her presence just filled up the entire place in this really cool way.
03:37And she was wearing boots that I wanted.
03:38I think that's the Jagged Little Pill tour as well.
03:41Yeah.
03:41Oh, that's cool.
03:41It was so cool.
03:42I saw Radiohead at Roseland in New York and I think 2000, I want to say.
03:46It's still one of the greatest things I've ever seen.
03:48It was a smaller venue, probably 2,500, 3,000 people.
03:51And it was...
03:52That's a good way to see it.
03:54It was awesome.
03:54And I've also got David Bowie.
03:57Oh, no.
03:57Yes, I did.
03:59I did.
03:59Just briefly because Iman, actually, it was a really sweet story because it was like my first time hanging out
04:07with Valentino,
04:08who then went on to become one of the dearest friends of my life.
04:12And he invited me to go to Iman's Black Ball.
04:15And she, that year, had asked David Bowie to perform and he didn't want to, but she was like, you're
04:19doing it.
04:20So he got up and performed.
04:22So I got to see David Bowie.
04:23Like a dutiful husband.
04:25Exactly.
04:25Just did it because he loved his wife.
04:27The only person who could make him do anything.
04:29Probably.
04:30Matt, I mean, you've got a pretty complete gig history as well.
04:33You went to see Oasis Live 25, I think.
04:36I did, yeah.
04:36Yeah.
04:37How was that?
04:38Fantastic.
04:38Yeah.
04:38I saw him in New York.
04:39I also saw him in Australia.
04:40You went to Australia to see them?
04:43I did, yes.
04:44You went to Australia to see them?
04:45Not to.
04:46I happened to be in Australia and I happened to know that it was when they were going to be
04:51there.
04:51Happened to be in Australia.
04:52How was that?
04:53That must have been amazing.
04:53Fantastic.
04:54Yeah.
04:55Have you been a fan for a long time?
04:56Of course, yes.
04:57Since they, and I never, in the 90s when they blew up, it was kind of when I was working,
05:03you know, I was very focused on my career and it was really kind of blowing up too.
05:08And so I didn't, I never got a chance to and I always thought I'd be able to.
05:12And then, you know, they stopped performing.
05:14So, so when they, when they reunited, you know, like it, like millions of other people,
05:19I went and got tickets right away.
05:21On here, I've also got that you took your daughter to her first concert.
05:25Prince.
05:26That was, well, my wife and I were like, we've, we've ruined her.
05:31Because we actually had, it was when he, it was at the O2 and he, and, and the way he
05:37did that show was,
05:37he did it in the round and he just had two backup dancers and he played.
05:41And it was, again, one of the most amazing things I've ever seen.
05:44Wow.
05:44But we were right up next to the stage.
05:47And I just looked at Lucy and was like, this, she's,
05:50there's some poor guy's going to show up someday with concert tickets.
05:53And she's going to be like, wait, when do we get to reach up and touch Prince's feet?
05:58She's like, oh cute.
05:59Yeah.
06:00That was an incredible night.
06:02If you could only pick one album that you always go back to time and time again, what would it
06:05be and why?
06:06Well, I, I'm a huge U2 fan.
06:08So, and even picking one of their albums would be tough, but I'd probably go back to my youth and
06:15take the Joshua Tree.
06:16Tell me a bit more about your relationship with that album.
06:18When did you first do it?
06:19It's just, you know, I was, I was probably, let's see, 80, probably 17 when it came out, 16, 17
06:24years old.
06:25And, and so it just, it, it feels like part of a soundtrack of my life, you know, because of,
06:31because of that time and leaving and going to college.
06:35And, you know what I mean?
06:35And, and, and, and being liberated in a way and, and kind of entering the world.
06:40And so, yeah.
06:42Great pick.
06:42And I mean, great for like the, the opening song, just, you know, you know, streets where it's like, kind
06:49of epic.
06:49My kids just discovered that song.
06:51Oh, really?
06:51Yeah.
06:51And so like, you know how it is when your kids love a song, you get to rediscover it.
06:55Yeah, yeah, yeah.
06:55And so whenever they request it, I'm so happy.
06:57Oh, I have so many going through my head right now.
07:00Um, I'm tempted to, like the smart choice is Queen Greatest Hits.
07:05I mean, yeah.
07:05Because then you're covered.
07:06But I'm going to go with, it's a, it's an album that's also a movie soundtrack and it's Selma Songs
07:12by Bjork, which is the soundtrack to Dancer in the Dark.
07:15Mm-hmm.
07:16And I love the whole album, but the first and the last songs, it opens with Overture and then the
07:22last one is New World.
07:23Like that musical journey is one of my favorites I've ever found.
07:26So I think that I would probably keep that one close.
07:29What fabulous picks.
07:30The enemy readers are going to love both of those.
07:32So, well done.
07:33But, um, it's been a pleasure to chat to you.
07:34Absolutely.
07:35Appreciate it.
07:37You're a man who needs to control his fate, but you cannot control this.
07:45That world is gone.
07:50No one could stand between me and home.
07:55Not either the gods.
07:59Keep us free!
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