00:00Anyway, last question. On sedition, how do you reconcile the fact that the Vice President discouraged her supporters from going
00:08to the streets with a claim of inciting to sedition?
00:13On sedition charges, Divan.
00:16Yes, sir.
00:17How do you reconcile the fact that the Vice President discouraged her supporters from going to the streets with a
00:24claim of inciting to sedition?
00:26Well, in inciting to sedition, Your Honor, specifically in the case of People v. Nabong, it is not necessary that
00:34there will be actual sedition.
00:37The law also penalizes if the seditious words would encourage people to do illegal acts or to overthrow government.
00:47In other words, if the speeches would stir up the people to go against the government, if the speeches would
00:53disturb the peace of the community,
00:54if the speeches would undermine order and public security, hindi ho necessary na magkaroon ng actual na sedition.
01:02That's under the law, sir.
01:03Meron ho bang nagawa yung Vice Presidente na gaya ng sinasabin nyo ngayon?
01:12Nagawa pong inciting to sedition, sir?
01:15Magkawo.
01:16Based sa findings namin, sir, yes. Based po sa findings namin.
01:21Ganito po ang nangyari. Kinumpare po namin based on the content and context of the utterances made by the Vice
01:29President in November 23, 2024,
01:32the utterances made by the Vice President in October 18, 2024, then the utterances made by the Vice President in
01:4026, November 2024,
01:42and under facts and circumstances, nung Trinay po namin i-compare siya, may nakikita ho kami ng mga utterances that
01:51would stir up the people against the government.
01:54For example, Your Honor, nung October 18, ang sabi ng Vice Presidente, walang number one ang Pilipinas na to hanggang
02:01number two lang to para sa akin.
02:03Wala itong number one.
02:05Kinumparaho namin nung November 23, ang sabi doon sa November 23, I do not recognize anybody above me.
02:12It's a reiteration doon sa kanyang sinabi.
02:15That's number one, Your Honor.
02:17Then number two, may sinabi siya nung October 18, na anong magagawa ko?
02:24Hindi marunong maging Presidente yung nakaupo. Kasalanan ko ba yun?
02:28And then, November 23, kinumpara namin yun. Ang sabi niya doon, this country will go to hell because the person
02:36na nakaupo is hindi marunong maging Presidente and who is a liar.
02:39So nakita namin yung pattern at consistent na utterances.
02:43Then tinira namin yung pangatlong line. Ang sabi niya doon, alam ko si BBM may limang impeachable offense, pero papasa
02:49ba dyan sa House?
02:51Siyempre hindi.
02:52Then pagdating sa November 23, sinabi naman niya doon na the President is lying through his teeth para makuha lang
02:59niya yung bota ng mga tao.
03:01Tapos minuran niya sila, P.I. Ka, BBM, Lisa Marcos, and former Speaker of the House.
03:09So tinignan namin, sino ba yung nagsasalita?
03:12Kung ang nagsasalita, Your Honor, is yung ikalua sa pinakamataas na posisyon in public at yun yung kanyang utterances, definitely,
03:21Your Honor, there is a tendency to stir up the people against lawful government.
03:29Kindly wind up, Senator Goh.
03:31No more question.
03:33Thank you, Senator Judge Goh.
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