00:00I do see that lecturing countries from afar is an ineffective strategy.
00:08It's satisfying, but it's ineffective.
00:13Engagement can be effective. It doesn't mean it's always effective.
00:16It doesn't mean it's decisive that it can be effective.
00:18We care deeply about human rights.
00:21We care deeply about self-determination for nations.
00:25We care deeply about territorial integrity of nations.
00:28We care deeply about Canadian consular cases.
00:32I addressed a Canadian consular case in Ankara two days ago.
00:38And because I was with the President, it was addressed favourably.
00:44If I sat in Ottawa and pointed out all the things that we might not agree with,
00:50with what Turkey has done or is doing or might do,
00:54I wouldn't have had that conversation. I wouldn't have had that impact.
00:56That's a small example.
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