00:00Hi, Mr. Shyamalam, welcome to Rome.
00:02Thank you so much.
00:03How are you?
00:04I'm good, I'm excited to be here.
00:06I think that Knock at the Cabin is a reflection on the vulnerability of the human being
00:12that makes the blurred boundaries between what is real and what is unreal.
00:18Why is it getting harder and harder to believe in something or someone nowadays?
00:24It's a great way you phrased that because it evoked in me kind of people lying to you
00:31or people being confusing to you.
00:34And, you know, we get thrown so many things now of what is real, what isn't,
00:41and facts that aren't facts.
00:44And so it's harder to believe in things absolutely anymore.
00:49And yet we need to make very difficult decisions in life.
00:53And so this was what I think this family is going through.
00:57Hey, this is all just a lie.
00:59Everything that's happening is a lie.
01:02And we've been lied to so many times.
01:04Why wouldn't this be a lie?
01:05This movie is based on the novel by Paul Tremblay,
01:10who wrote it during the election of Donald Trump.
01:13Are the effects of this presidency still there?
01:16And, for example, the social anxieties that are told in your movie?
01:22Yeah, I mean, I think Paul was in a pretty dark place when Trump got elected.
01:29So he wrote this, the book, the novel.
01:33And I was in a slightly different place, you know, when I made Knock at the Cabin.
01:38So, you know, I intentionally changed the title.
01:40And I do feel understanding about myself and everybody else's fears about the world.
01:49And I hope we, you know, can maintain a sense of, not hopefulness,
01:56because it feels like a weak, weak word, but more of the potential that things get,
02:02that always, there's no absolutes in life, that it's always malleable,
02:06that there's a way to change things.
02:08And as long as there's that little opportunity to change things,
02:11there's, you know, we can go down a better path.
02:14This movie, The Suspense, Devor Us, nowadays we want to discover everything immediately
02:21without enjoying the right time as the movie does.
02:25What do you think about it?
02:26I think, you know, not getting what you want at the time you want it is so delicious
02:31that, you know, that, you know, I keep, you know,
02:35my instinct is always to drag it out, to torture you with information.
02:40I love that for myself that, wait a minute,
02:43because your mind is still thinking and you want peace.
02:46I'm not giving it to you.
02:48Then I give you another piece of information that causes you to go in a different direction.
02:52I love playing.
02:53Even when we promote my movies, I try to encourage the marketeers to maintain that suspense,
03:02that even just the beginning of, like, the knocks,
03:06wouldn't that be a great way to just have as the campaign,
03:09just knocks at the door that's suspenseful?
03:12Well, who's knocking at the door?
03:14Knock at the Cabin is a portrait of the deception of appearances.
03:20And then on the screen comes Dave Bautista.
03:23What did you choose him?
03:25You know, sometimes I, I, the film gods are very, very generous to me.
03:32And Haley Joel Osment walks in and, and, and is Cole in Sixth Sense or, or Bryce Dallas Howard
03:41comes in and is Ivy in, in the village.
03:44And this time there's a character that really, you know, is so specific, a giant who's like a child.
03:51And, you know, physically is very imposing and has a darkness to him,
03:56but underneath is very, very gentle.
03:59And Dave Bautista is this person.
04:02So when I met him, I was like, gosh, you are Leonard.
04:05It's so, it's so amazing.
04:06And I think that Dave was at that exact moment in his life,
04:10ready to do something that scared him.
04:14In a way, I'm like, essentially, this is a play.
04:16You're just going to be talking the whole time.
04:17There's no, you're not going to be using your muscles very much.
04:21And, and he was ready.
04:23Mr. Shyamalan, thank you for your time.
04:25It was a pleasure talking to you.
04:26Thank you so much.
