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00:19The world wants to know what is happening in Ayodhya.
00:25I, no doubt, I keep thinking that if God has picked me up, He will definitely ensure that
00:33I cross the river.
00:57Hello and welcome to all the viewers of Asianet News.
01:01We have brought you extensive coverage of the temple at Ayodhya, Ram temple at Ayodhya.
01:08During its construction phase, we visited the temple first in April 2022, then we followed
01:15it up with another visit in October 2022, then with another visit in August 2023.
01:21So that you were completely kept in the loop as far as the construction is concerned.
01:28And of course, then we visited during the Pran Pratishtha in January 2024.
01:33When the Pran Pratishtha happened, a lot of work needed to be done.
01:37Even the shikhar of the main temple was not ready.
01:40The parkota was not ready and all the attendant temples which are there in the complex were not ready.
01:46Now, all of it is ready and we were fortunate to be invited back into the temple by Shri Narendra
01:52Mishra, who showed us around the entire complex.
01:56Mr. Mishra is the chairman of the committee which is constructing the temple and he also, of course, was the
02:03principal secretary to the Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi.
02:07You will see what all facilities have been created for the pilgrims, what all pains have been taken to make
02:15it more comfortable for the pilgrims to have their darshan.
02:19I am sure you will understand a lot more about what the temple is all about through this video.
02:4220-24 January was the Pran Pratishtha and the final tempest was ready 25 November.
02:51What were the main challenges during that period, other than, of course, it would rain and all those things?
02:58Actually, you should see the challenges from 2020, though we met, of course, and you have recorded.
03:08But the real thing, the message is that after we reached here when the Covid was there.
03:18Correct.
03:19And at that time, and then the construction started.
03:27And then the foundation work of the temple was done.
03:31That is when we had come, I remember, April 2022.
03:39It was in the August that the Prime Minister had laid the foundation for the temple.
03:47In fact, the journey itself is an inspiration.
03:56Because the construction, the addition of building, the dream that what is necessary, it developed from its status.
04:07I had never thought in 2020 when I was to become construction committee chairman that such a huge temple will
04:15be my responsibility for construction.
04:18So, when I asked the Sompura architect, where is your artwork on which you have shown, it was a small
04:29one mandap, sanctum sanctorum, and that is it.
04:35Then the trust met in Delhi, and we decided, no, no, no, no, no, it has to be very big.
04:42Then the five mandaps were thought of.
04:45Then the two-storey construction was thought of.
04:49Then it was thought there will be Ram, there will be Ram Darbar, Ram Parivar.
04:54And then the second one, sanctum sanctorum, will have the rarest of the rare manuscripts, Ramayana.
05:03Are they there already, those manuscripts?
05:05One is there, and now we have already circulated in the crowd.
05:12And in fact, exactly at 11.30, a family is coming with their manuscript, which is 300 years old, and
05:20they are coming to give it to us.
05:22Oh, nice.
05:23And the experts will be there to examine.
05:28But see how things were changing.
05:39You see this, the windows, they are total 32 in number.
05:46Okay, only in this area.
05:48Yeah, it is only in this area.
05:50That is called Pradikshana.
05:52Pradikshana.
05:53Sanctorum, then the Pradikshana.
05:55Now, normally, one would have made simple window.
06:01Correct.
06:02But the locals here, and some institutions in Delhi, they said no.
06:09It should be something which will never destroy itself.
06:13Really?
06:13So what is that?
06:14Then the only thing was titanium.
06:16You can't get titanium normally.
06:19So there is a defence ministry, PSU, called Middhani.
06:24So, Mishran Dhat Nigamb hai.
06:27Then a design was given to them.
06:29Then they made it, finally, because it required all kinds of jet cutting, etc., etc.
06:38It was done in Hyderabad, wrought here and installed.
06:42So now, when you say the journey, this is the thought of 2024.
07:01The dream kept evolving.
07:04Who gave the dream, I don't know.
07:07If you say, did you think of it?
07:09The answer is absolute no.
07:12Only thing is, I am just a medium to execute, which somehow, the entire consensus told us, you have to
07:22do this.
07:31Did everything go as planned when something started?
07:37Everything did not go as planned, but delays took place, problems are there.
07:48For example, this.
07:50The problem now today is that we have to settle.
07:55It looks easy.
07:56But the problem is, the design which was given to them, that the total loss, process loss is more than
08:1052%.
08:12That means, if you put 100 titanium, 52% is just lost.
08:18That's a big...
08:19That's a very big amount.
08:22So, we have not yet settled.
08:24Should it be 52?
08:25Should it be 32?
08:27What is it?
08:28They have built for 52.
08:30We are now working, examining, taking information from those who know the subject.
08:38Taking even information from private sector.
08:41There is a company doing titanium work in Lucknow.
08:45So, the owner was requested to come.
08:48He was shown and we asked him.
08:52Now, we have to settle this.
08:54On the face of it, it looks very easy.
08:57We have just ordered, we should do.
08:59Correct.
08:59But when it comes to final resolution of a problem, in a manner which is just and fair.
09:07Correct.
09:07I agree.
09:08It does require.
09:20I will say it was a journey of dream.
09:24Realized.
09:25In stages.
09:28And the dream came from the devotees.
09:39The dream came from saints and sages who had thought this is how the Ram temple should look like.
09:52So, clearly, it looks very easy.
09:55We have decided.
09:56But to take a decision that here, this will be Sant Pundalik of Pandarpur, which is in Bhagawan
10:03Bithal.
10:04Yes.
10:05Yes.
10:05Yes.
10:05Yes.
10:05So, what is the story?
10:09Should we select this or something else?
10:12There were challenges that how do we ensure that the real ones have been picked up?
10:17So, we had to consult.
10:19There were five people knowing the background of Ved, Puran and the story of such saints.
10:32They recommended that these are the 79 murals you should put.
10:37Okay.
10:37That's how it is.
10:48This is the Sant Chokhamila.
10:51We have all, only such bronze murals have been especially picked by a group of saints.
10:59Only pick up those personalities or saints who followed Maryada Purushota.
11:06That is, whatever was the saying of Bhagawan, they followed in real practice.
11:14So, that is what, and see the face of them.
11:19This was done by Sutar.
11:21Okay.
11:21Yeah.
11:22Anil Sutar, the son of Primus.
11:25Ram Sutar.
11:25Yes.
11:29Sant Eknath.
11:31A man who followed this thing eradicating all forms of social inequality.
11:48But tell me, overall, when the temple is complete, are you satisfied with anything?
11:54Or do you still think, with hindsight, some things could have been done differently?
11:57The satisfaction will come from the expressions of the devotees, from their faces, how they
12:07are seeing it, if they are satisfied.
12:11If I am standing here, they somehow, they do make a guess that this guy is the person
12:17who is one of the team member, who is responsible for reconstruction.
12:21Now, if he is happy, he may just step up and pause.
12:25If he is not, he will just go, because he is experiencing heat, no facility for water.
12:32And so, he wants that there should be water which must be kept here.
12:38So, the question of satisfaction, I have to wait.
12:42But, abhi tak, logon ke reactions, how do they generally react?
12:47You would also have feedback from all the people around, even guards and other panditji.
12:52I will be very honest.
12:54My main concern would be devotees.
12:57And the devotees of all the states of India and devotees from outside.
13:07If they comment that the management and darshan was hassle-free and he could see everything,
13:18then it is satisfactory.
13:19Correct.
13:20Agree.
13:20But if it is not…
13:22It is for them ultimately.
13:23So, if you said that what is the pilgrim satisfaction level, I will say it is yet only 60%.
13:36What would need to be done to make it higher?
13:39First, the devotees, when they come, they must get the entry.
13:46And for that, more important is the small things, signages.
13:55Are they telling the right way or is he lost?
14:00After the signages, he has to deposit his mobile because he is asked.
14:06He won't carry mobile.
14:08You are not able to go with shoes, although here it is allowed.
14:14But see, people, since they have come from temple, they are going without because they
14:18will collect the shoe finally.
14:20So, the arrangement could be that we should make it in a manner that after Bhagwan darshan,
14:27they can go collect the shoe and then he starts.
14:29Without actually much change in their routine.
14:33Yeah.
14:33How the whole system…
14:35And we have to learn.
14:37It is a learning trail and it must improve.
14:42Then there are people who should be there guiding in different languages.
14:47They are not there.
14:48We have to put that facilities there.
14:51So…
14:52What about those, you know, headphones which you can turn in any language?
14:58It is one lakh people.
15:00You can't.
15:01Even giving and collecting will take one day.
15:05It is a challenge.
15:05It is a challenge.
15:05We are not able to do it in a museum.
15:08Correct.
15:09Where only a thousand people will come.
15:11Correct.
15:11I agree.
15:12Yeah.
15:12In fact, the Bangalore company, aphoddars are there.
15:18They have explosive unit.
15:20They are very rich.
15:21But their hobby is to make some museum.
15:24So, they are going to create an immersive Ram Katha, which will show all this.
15:32It is 3D.
15:33I get it.
15:34So, it will be pure.
15:35Some of the things which you also did at the Pradhan Mantri Sangat.
15:40Yeah.
15:40That has to be developed.
15:42Is it in the pipeline?
15:43Yeah.
15:49So, do you think anything about what you should do in this time?
15:52Yeah.
15:53As you said, you were evolving.
15:54So, you know, there is nothing.
15:55The benefit of hindsight is always there.
15:57Of course.
15:58You know what is needed.
16:02You also know the shortcoming.
16:06But at this stage, reality wise, it is reality number 2 and 3.
16:12Okay.
16:12One is completion.
16:14Which it is now almost, isn't it?
16:16Yeah.
16:16It is now.
16:17Now, we will have to go for a little more detail.
16:23Now, for the example general, you can make out even from a different state.
16:27And, you know, he is not well.
16:29You are not able to get someone who should display, Tamil, may I help you?
16:36Correct.
16:36If that was there, you would have spoken.
16:38Correct.
16:38My worry is, it should not appear as a North Indian temple only.
16:43Of course.
16:43This is what the Prime Minister said.
16:45That, look, your main challenge is, make it not just all India, make it Sanatan Dharma Temple.
16:55Correct.
16:56That is what we have to make.
16:58Correct.
17:08How does a pilgrim, you know, how do you make him comfortable when it is 45, 46 degrees and stone
17:15all around?
17:16There is radiation from stones also.
17:18How to make it comfortable for the pilgrim?
17:20First thing important for him to drink is water.
17:25At this stage, I would say, it is not yet enough.
17:33The second is, and I will show you, that he must have a cover on his head, so that if
17:47he is walking, both by the entry and also the exit, he must get that.
17:57I will show you, what kind of construction has gone into that, and how do we ensure it.
18:17You must get the idea, that you have come out of Parkota.
18:22Okay.
18:23But this is still inside the 5-acre zone or outside?
18:27No, you are in the 71-acre zone.
18:30Okay.
18:30So, this 5-acre begins from inside this?
18:32Yeah.
18:33Yeah, 5-acre is inside.
18:34Okay.
18:35Now, you are covering the remaining.
18:39For example, on the right side, what you see green, this is the, in a way you can call it,
18:46the master toilet.
18:48At any point of time, it can accommodate 250 people.
18:54Okay.
18:55I see.
18:56Here are these other.
18:58Now, on the left side, you are seeing Sesha-Avatar temple.
19:06Sesha-Avatar.
19:06Okay.
19:07Now, Sesha-Avatar is Lakshmanji.
19:09There is a history of this.
19:11And Lakshmanji's temple, it was very special here from Vasilyu's point of view.
19:17The belief was that if you don't build this and if the height of that Shikhar, it doesn't go to
19:30the level of Sanctum Sanctorum, then you do not get the advantages of Vasily.
19:36Really?
19:36Okay.
19:37So, we followed it.
19:38This is the exit.
19:40Right?
19:41And they are now going.
19:42The right side are the 7 temples that you asked.
19:46Okay.
19:46Okay.
19:47So, Shabarimata, Nishat.
19:48Shabarimata, Nishat.
19:49Each one of them, these are the Sabt Mandir.
19:53Okay.
19:54Okay.
19:54Agasth, Muni, Hilya.
19:58And now people visit here freely.
20:01I also noticed it is a more non-elite crowd.
20:08Oh, yes.
20:08Oh, yes.
20:09This is actually a poor man's temple.
20:13And the reason for that is, you must understand, at one point of time, Ayodhya and the Ram Mantir was
20:25seen as a temple of North India.
20:30And the people who were coming, the captive crowd or devotees, they were of Eastern UP.
20:41Really?
20:42So, the, I mean, about 22 districts, all going right up to Baliyah, Banaras, Ademgarh, this, etc.
20:52Maximum crowd came from there.
20:55And they were poor people.
20:58Their per capita income comparatively was half of the number.
21:02So, that is what was originally seen.
21:08But now, it has become a must for every citizen of India.
21:14Yeah, all over the country.
21:14I can tell you, the families, the elderly people ask their children, I want one version of Ram.
21:24And that is how people come.
21:26Oh, nice.
21:26If you see the planes coming and your trains carrying, then you realize, oh, God, this is what we have
21:35to provide comfort.
21:43You asked about the heat.
21:45Now, here you see the construction, what thought went.
21:49Okay.
21:50I will explain to you.
21:56This is the canopy, that construction, right?
22:01People are walking on that.
22:03Correct.
22:03So, they are not getting the sun.
22:05Hmm.
22:06They are protected.
22:07There is a fan.
22:08And they are walking.
22:09Hmm.
22:10This canopy will take them right up to the exit.
22:13So, it will extend all the way.
22:15Yeah, yeah.
22:15All the way to Subvivukila.
22:17So, what remains to be done right now?
22:20Uh, outside 71 acres.
22:23Aha.
22:23Here only.
22:24Hmm.
22:25Two constructions have to be done.
22:27One is trust office.
22:29Hmm.
22:29And the other is auditory.
22:31Haan.
22:31Yeah.
22:31I have seen this.
22:32Yes.
22:33But I will just now take you.
22:36Now, what you are watching.
22:38Hmm.
22:39Hmm.
22:39This is foolishly here.
22:40Yesterday, I told them to remove it immediately.
22:43Yes.
22:43This is a police cabin.
22:44Police cabin.
22:47Hmm.
22:47Hmm.
22:47The importance of this, they don't realize.
22:49Hmm.
22:49This is the place, where if we had come.
22:54Hmm.
22:54Before 2020.
22:56Hmm.
22:56Hmm.
22:57Yeah.
22:57By, uh, Bahagwan was here.
22:58Yeah, bueno.
22:59Okay.
22:59The tent was here.
23:00Now it was done over here.
23:02We have kept it, because this is where he was.
23:04Hmm.
23:05The same wooden structure.
23:07Uh-huh.
23:08Nothing is still there.
23:09Yes.
23:09Yeah, only nothing is there, right?
23:13Nope.
23:13It is here.
23:14unter the 24 hours.
23:15Other as it will continue.
23:17Okay.
23:17Then it is not done.
23:18Okay.
23:18The old compartment.
23:19Now, the one is there.
23:20Who will do that?
23:21But who will do that?
23:21Hevels ko kaha hai, wo bana raha hai specially.
23:25Pyaan lag gaya tha, but people didn't approve of that.
23:28Okay.
23:29So now that is being done, otherwise it's all complete.
23:40This is one construction which has been completed now.
23:44I am now taking it to martyrs memorials.
23:47I see, okay, that's important.
23:49The car savers who were killed, unke ooper hai.
23:52Five hundred years of people who sacrificed their life for Ram.
24:03We have already put the steel structure.
24:06Okay.
24:07The granite is being carved in a company in Meret.
24:11And that will be delivered on 25th.
24:14Of this month?
24:15Yeah, yeah.
24:16And 30th it will be completed.
24:18So the entire thing will have the granite.
24:23Lalitpur red granite.
24:24Okay.
24:25Will be here.
24:26So this is the place?
24:27Yeah.
24:28That's martyrs memorial.
24:30And the message is written on that stone.
24:33Where you see the black thing.
24:39There is a cabin for each pilgrim.
24:42You put your mobile, this and that.
24:44Shoes, etc.
24:46In a jute bag.
24:47And you.
24:47And give it to the person.
24:48He will give you a token there.
24:50And you are out home.
24:51And you are out home.
24:51But then still you have to walk.
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