00:00Can we elaborate on the basis that we're going to file plunder charges?
00:06Because there are people who say, why plunder is not a government fund?
00:10Number one.
00:11Number two, the aspect of the nature of the money and why it's plundering?
00:19Why plunder is it the water?
00:22Well, when you talk about plunder, it's a series of combination of acts
00:27where somebody is able to amass, acquire, and accumulate ill-gotten wealth
00:32to the amount of at least 50 million pesos.
00:36So, isa-isa yun po natin, 50 million pesos,
00:40umabot po ng 75 million pesos ang kabuuan ng mga supposedly donations sa kanya.
00:47So, yun yung una.
00:49Series or combinations, tatlo pong transaction po yun na nagbigay.
00:55At admitado naman po yung mga donors na nagbigay naman din sila.
01:02And from the own admissions as well of Senator Marcoleta,
01:07tinanggap niya yung 75 million.
01:10Ngunit, hindi po niya na-deklara sa SALEN,
01:14neither niya dineklara sa kanyang sose.
01:17Ngayon, just to put things in context,
01:20as a public official, kasama po kami dun.
01:23Lahat ng congressman, lahat ng senador,
01:25lahat po ng nasa executive branch,
01:27lahat ng hwes sa judisyari.
01:30Bawal po mag, bawal tumanggap
01:32ng ganun kalaking kahalaga
01:34ng pera
01:35as a general rule.
01:37Exception to the general rule,
01:39kung campaign period
01:41at mangungolekta ka ng mga donations
01:43para sa campaign.
01:45Pero dito sa case na ito,
01:47hindi naman niya dineklara sa sose.
01:50Hindi rin niya dineklara sa SALEN.
01:53So,
01:55dineklara lang niya
01:56sa taong bayan,
01:58sa media.
01:59Pero, sa totoo lang,
02:01dapat linagay niya either sa SALEN
02:03or sa sose.
02:05So,
02:05ang theory will revolve around that.
02:10Several
02:11cases
02:12or series
02:13or combination of acts
02:14and yung
02:15ano po,
02:16yung tanong nyo
02:17na
02:17public funds,
02:19dun sa RA7080
02:21sa Plunder Law,
02:24there are acts there
02:25that could comprise
02:26of the series
02:26or combination of acts
02:28that could
02:28comprise of Plunder.
02:30And,
02:30number two there
02:31is receiving
02:33directly
02:33or indirectly
02:34any gift,
02:35commission,
02:36percentage,
02:37kickback.
02:38Alam nga naman po,
02:39yung gift ay galing din sa public funds.
02:41So,
02:42ang definition po ng Plunder
02:44also includes
02:45private funds.
02:48Okay?
02:49And,
02:50just to elaborate on that further,
02:52yung direct bribery
02:53or indirect bribery,
02:54pag merong series nun,
02:56that can also comprise
02:58of Plunder.
02:59And,
02:59direct bribery
03:00coming from a private individual
03:02can also
03:03be considered
03:05corruption.
03:06Diba?
03:06So,
03:07when there's a series
03:07or combination of that,
03:08pwede rin po siyang
03:10tawaging Plunder.
03:12So,
03:12this is the first time
03:13na magpo-file tayo
03:14ng Plunder
03:15na ang gamit
03:16ay
03:16private funds.
03:17Yun ba ang kaya
03:18of the wedding money?
03:19Is it the same
03:21circumstances?
03:21Yes,
03:22opo,
03:22opo.
03:22So,
03:23yung,
03:24I understand,
03:25naiintindihan ho namin
03:26yung argument na yun
03:29na kailangan public funds.
03:30Ngunit,
03:31pag binasa mo talaga
03:32yung batas,
03:34nandyan ho yan
03:35na kahit private funds
03:37po pwede,
03:38it's just that
03:39kadalasan
03:40ang naka-file ho
03:40yung public funds.
03:43May malversation,
03:44may misappropriation,
03:45yun po yung kadalasan
03:47natin na rinirinig
03:48pag ang finile
03:49ay Plunder.
03:50Pero sa totoo lang,
03:51and you will see it
03:52in the law,
03:53that even private funds
03:55can comprise
03:56of the crime of Plunder.
03:57Sir,
03:58last na lang
03:58on this topic
03:59on my part.
04:00Will the actions of,
04:02well,
04:02the present actions
04:02today deter
04:03the Ombudsman
04:04from filing?
04:06No,
04:06like I mentioned,
04:07parehas po
04:08ang pinaglalaban po
04:10natin.
04:10Kung ang pinaglalaban po
04:11ng mga taga-INC
04:13ngayon sa EDSA
04:14ay transparency
04:15and accountability
04:16yun din ang pinaglalaban
04:17ng Office of the Ombudsman.
04:19So,
04:20is it our mandate
04:21to stop cases?
04:23Perhaps not.
04:23It is our mandate
04:25to investigate
04:26and prosecute cases.
04:28And once the evidence
04:30is there,
04:30and in this case,
04:31the evidence
04:32was amply supplied
04:33by the respondents
04:34themselves,
04:35we have,
04:36our hands are quite tied
04:37here.
04:38So,
04:40that also speaks
04:41to how fast
04:43this case went.
04:44Dahil po,
04:45lahat po ng admissions,
04:47lahat po ng elemento
04:48ay nasatisfy na po
04:49doon sa mga sinabi niya po.
04:51Everybody con
04:52and I will say
04:52you
04:52know,
04:54it's a
04:54show and
04:54we'll say
04:54you
04:54like,
04:55you
04:55and I will say
05:03I will say
05:03You
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