Done the Impossible 完成了不可能事迹

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The story of how the cast, crew, and fans did what appeared to be impossible

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00:00:24Canceled show becomes a major motion picture.

00:00:26It's never happened before.

00:00:31A wonderful working experience becomes a wonderful fan experience, doing things that other people

00:00:36like you are going to appreciate and understand and talk about and write about and make documentaries

00:00:41about.

00:00:41It's awesome.

00:00:51We're a canceled television show.

00:00:53Everybody thinks we're gone.

00:00:54All of a sudden this fan base just keeps growing and growing and growing.

00:00:57And then we make a movie.

00:00:58And then we're a huge movie and we make sequel after sequel.

00:01:01That would be amazing.

00:01:02What a great story to be able to tell.

00:01:29Hi.

00:01:30I'm Adam Baldwin.

00:01:32I played Jane Cobb on TV's Firefly and in the big damn movie based on it, Serenity.

00:01:37We've done the impossible and that makes us mighty.

00:01:41These words written by Joss Whedon and spoken by his hero, Malcolm Reynolds, were about struggles

00:01:46against overwhelming odds.

00:01:48They become a rallying cry for millions of Firefly fans worldwide.

00:01:52This is the story of Firefly and Serenity and how Joss broke the rules of TV and then

00:01:58with the help of his fans went on to break the rules of Hollywood and to do the impossible.

00:02:04This is our story, the story of the fans of Firefly.

00:02:10My name is Natalie Ashton.

00:02:11My name is Ilona, otherwise known as Nono Luna.

00:02:14My name is Jen.

00:02:15I'm from Melbourne, Australia.

00:02:16My name is Amy Wilson.

00:02:18I'm Joshua Harrison.

00:02:19My name is Francine.

00:02:20My name is James.

00:02:21This is Jewel Steen.

00:02:22I'm Michelle Cullen-Benz.

00:02:23Danielle Tardin.

00:02:24My name is Nathan Towne.

00:02:25Kelly Wilcox.

00:02:26Julianne Hensley.

00:02:26Jan Feldman.

00:02:27My name is Chris.

00:02:28I'm from North Carolina.

00:02:30I'm Andy and Andrew.

00:02:31I'm Adam Baldwin.

00:02:31Jeff Kahn.

00:02:32Shana Terpsick.

00:02:33Sue Reganini.

00:02:34Michelle Evans.

00:02:34Bach.

00:02:35And Cedric.

00:02:37Psychic Experience.

00:02:38My name is Karen.

00:02:39Steven Jacob.

00:02:40Missy Petrowski.

00:02:41Marina Baccarin.

00:02:42That is not my name.

00:02:43Marina Baccarin.

00:02:45My name is Brett Matthews.

00:02:46Send me a wave.

00:02:46Margaret Weiss.

00:02:47I'm from Lake Geneva, Wisconsin.

00:02:49I'm John Cassidy.

00:02:50My name is Jerry James.

00:02:51Davos Petrahina.

00:02:52Melissa Hoenig.

00:02:53I'm Miu.

00:02:54My name is Nikolai Narowski.

00:02:55I'm from San Diego, born and raised.

00:02:57James Dornoff.

00:02:58Josh Autry.

00:02:58I'm her husband.

00:02:59Scott McAlpine.

00:03:00Tony Graham.

00:03:01Angela Dahan.

00:03:02And I'm Fante.

00:03:03I'm the pretty one in the movie.

00:03:04Tanik Steele.

00:03:05Kimberly Pudliner.

00:03:05Firefly Gal.

00:03:06Mike Boritz.

00:03:07Bob Marnix.

00:03:08Ann Rousey.

00:03:09My name is Ron Glass.

00:03:12I'm Saxon Online and this is Little Ewok.

00:03:15I could have said my own name.

00:03:16Well I introduced you.

00:03:17Little Ewok.

00:03:18Please.

00:03:20Betsy Johnson.

00:03:21Jason Palmer.

00:03:22Rosie Leone.

00:03:22There's a lot of you guys.

00:03:23Kevin Batchelber.

00:03:24Kathy Salman.

00:03:25Arielle Katschetter.

00:03:26James Eakin.

00:03:26Jeff Gleis.

00:03:27Kathleen Hanover.

00:03:27This is Nathan Fillion.

00:03:28Juliet Vladeck.

00:03:29Sarah Lukanoff.

00:03:30Michael Garner.

00:03:30Lainon Palmer.

00:03:31Carson Petrar.

00:03:32Cheryl Black.

00:03:33And the lovely and talented Mr. Helen Tudor.

00:03:35Carrie Haley.

00:03:36Amy L33.

00:03:37Hi, I'm Aaron.

00:03:37My name is Jeff.

00:03:38Aaron Gray.

00:03:3811th Hour.

00:03:39Steve Black.

00:03:40And I'm Joanne Gray.

00:03:41Conrad Franks.

00:03:41Jeremy Wong.

00:03:42Tim Minear.

00:03:42My name is Leslie.

00:03:43Andy Sullivan.

00:03:44Amy Schafer.

00:03:44Michael O'Connell.

00:03:45And this is my son Justin.

00:03:46I'm Arsene Scott Card.

00:03:47I'm Christina Hendricks.

00:03:48And I'm a Firefly.

00:03:49I'm a huge brown coat.

00:03:50We're a fan.

00:03:51I've been a big fan of the show.

00:03:53I'm a big fan.

00:03:53I am a huge fan.

00:03:54I truly am a fan.

00:03:56I really love Firefly.

00:03:57I've been a fan of the series since the beginning.

00:03:58I am a fan of the Firefly.

00:03:59I'm Brian Weiser.

00:04:01I think Serenity is awesome.

00:04:03I love Firefly.

00:04:04And I love being a brown coat.

00:04:11A lot of things interest me.

00:04:13But none more than science fiction.

00:04:14And I just wanted to see something on TV that was very character driven.

00:04:19Very gritty.

00:04:21Very you are there.

00:04:23Science fiction was getting more and more distant and pristine.

00:04:26And it was starting to lose me.

00:04:27At least on television.

00:04:28And so I thought I'd like to take something that just shows how hard things are, were,

00:04:35and will be.

00:04:37I basically wanted to tell the pioneer story as it would apply to people who were in the

00:04:43blackness of space.

00:04:44It started out I was flipping through the fall preview and TV guide like I do every year

00:04:49to see which shows I'm interested in watching.

00:04:52We grabbed a TV guide when it comes out each year and looked for the new shows.

00:04:57And I've always kind of been a space nut.

00:04:59The very first moment that I saw a commercial for Firefly on Fox, I knew it was special.

00:05:05And I could not wait for it to start.

00:05:06They said Joss Whedon.

00:05:08And I'm like, I'm watching it.

00:05:08I remember seeing a press release.

00:05:10And I was at a paper on the East Coast.

00:05:11And it was announcing some shows in development for Fox.

00:05:14One of them was something called Firefly.

00:05:16And being a big science fiction geek, I instantly snagged the press release.

00:05:19I remember seeing the ads for it and I was like, oh cool, an Adam Baldwin show, great.

00:05:23You know?

00:05:24My husband actually told me, Joss Whedon has a new show coming out called Firefly.

00:05:29And guess what?

00:05:30It takes place in space, which really excited him.

00:05:34Wow.

00:05:35I wonder if it'll be good.

00:05:37And so I made sure to watch it every time I could.

00:05:40And I had that experience everybody's had where they said, did I miss something?

00:05:45What's going on?

00:05:46I'm going to buy the DVD of this if they bring it out so I can see them all in

00:05:49order.

00:05:50And I was a little confused because, you know, Fox was, all the commercials for it were for this,

00:05:54for the pilot, the Serenity pilot.

00:05:57I distinctly remember the promo of River being in the frozen cryogenic case.

00:06:02And I caught the first episode and it was a train job.

00:06:04And I'm sitting there wondering, where's this girl in the box?

00:06:06Where's all this stuff that's supposed to happen?

00:06:08I'm not following it.

00:06:09I know I'm missing something, which I know that had to frustrate Joss and Tim.

00:06:16The train job was interesting.

00:06:18Joss had made this brilliant two-hour pilot called Serenity that the network didn't feel was as brilliant as we

00:06:24did.

00:06:24And annoyed, especially when I actually saw the pilot and was wondering,

00:06:27why the hell didn't they air that first?

00:06:29Our theory was, and we were probably in denial, was that we would write this first script,

00:06:35then we would not fight with the powers that be.

00:06:39We would make this episode, but we would continually try to address whatever notes they had about the two-hour

00:06:46pilot.

00:06:47And Joss actually, the first thing he did when we went into production was he went out and he shot

00:06:52new material for Serenity,

00:06:53which addressed every single note that the network had.

00:06:57He changed the opening, he excised some material, he added some jokes, he just peppered in stuff that absolutely addressed

00:07:06every single note that they had.

00:07:08Because our hope was that before the fall season began, we could convince them that this was the thing they

00:07:13should start with.

00:07:14So that was always our plan, always our hope.

00:07:19And in the end, they didn't see it that way.

00:07:20When I heard that Joss Whedon was going to do another series, I was totally on board.

00:07:28And I tuned in from the very beginning, Firefly, and I loved it from the moment Mal kicked a guy

00:07:35in the engine.

00:07:35I missed the first one, so I caught the second one, Bushwhacked.

00:07:41And I was totally intrigued because the two characters that, well, the one character that seemed the most moral to

00:07:47me, which was Simon,

00:07:49I found out he was a fugitive. I'm like, okay, how come he's the fugitive?

00:07:53Which brought me into Bushwhacked the next week, not having a clue, but I was still hooked. It didn't matter.

00:08:02It's like, just so original.

00:08:03No aliens, no aliens.

00:08:05Yeah, it's like, I'm sick of aliens.

00:08:08It's just so cool.

00:08:10He shoots people in the face.

00:08:13And he kicks them in the engine, and there's like, cool blowing up stuff.

00:08:17The episode was Janestown, and I just fell in love.

00:08:22Became a fan as soon as Mal kicked Crow into the engine.

00:08:25Mal whacked Jane with the wrench.

00:08:27There was something about them, like, why am I not taping this?

00:08:29I need to be taping these episodes so I can see them again.

00:08:31I saw the first minute when they were playing Chinese checkers in the bar, and it was over.

00:08:36I was hooked, done, then the rest of the lines just cemented it.

00:08:41Got to the chain of command, knew I would never miss another episode.

00:08:50By all indications, Firefly should have been a great success.

00:08:53It had a terrific story, sophisticated and brilliant actors, and it was being shown on a major network.

00:08:59Most importantly, it had the talent of Joss Whedon behind it.

00:09:03But before the first episode aired, it was dealt what was quite possibly a fatal blow.

00:09:07The network decided that the pilot episode, which properly introduced the verse and its characters,

00:09:13wouldn't be the first episode to air.

00:09:15I was adoring this show, loving the characters, loving where it was going, a little confused at times,

00:09:21because it didn't seem to follow, but I didn't realize that they were being shown out of order at that

00:09:26point.

00:09:27And then the show disappeared. So I was like, what happened? Oh, internet, I'll go find out.

00:09:33So I went online and then I think I found the OB and started talking with those people.

00:09:37The fans early on understood that we were under the gun.

00:09:40In November, when it looked like the show could be in trouble, the fans organized through the message boards

00:09:44and we created the Firefly immediate assistance program.

00:09:48At that point, I started to see the fans band together.

00:09:53And they started putting together sites and creating their own writing campaigns

00:09:57and doing what they could to head off what appeared to be inevitable.

00:10:02So we're shooting the scene where Jonathan Woodward comes onto the bridge with a gun.

00:10:07And while we're shooting the scene where Jonathan Woodward is on the bridge with a gun,

00:10:12Josh showed up onto the bridge with a different kind of gun and pulled me to the side and says,

00:10:17they've pulled the plug. They've done it. They've canceled the show.

00:10:21And then they canceled it.

00:10:22That's why I just found it. I said, what happened? Where'd you go?

00:10:25It just sort of went by like, wait, there was some show that was coming that I wanted to see.

00:10:28And then the next thing you know, it's gone.

00:10:30It was really depressing for all of us when it went under.

00:10:34I was seriously bummed.

00:10:37Right about the time that I started to get, you know, addicted to it, it was gone.

00:10:41As I try to rationalize these sort of things, you know, people these days seem to work a long time.

00:10:49You know, we have a 10-hour day at work. We work together.

00:10:51We have an hour commute in, an hour commute out. We have a half-hour lunch inside.

00:10:55We try to sleep eight hours. That never happens.

00:10:57You know, you come home and you do supper. You take care of homework with children.

00:11:00And then all of a sudden, you find yourself for an hour or two of time to look, you know,

00:11:04at some TV and get some entertainment and let go of the day.

00:11:08And we choose that time carefully.

00:11:10So it was a big loss to us, entertainment-wise, when we heard it was going to be canceled.

00:11:15I mean, once you start, you treat it like a feature film.

00:11:17You don't want to stop. You don't want any breaks. You just want to watch everything.

00:11:20And when you reach the end, as you realize they're getting set up for something wonderful, and then it stops,

00:11:25you want to find somebody at the network and kill them.

00:11:30I know the network was loaded down with those things, with mail and email.

00:11:36And I know that in some meetings, someone had to say, listen, this is not just a show that people

00:11:40don't care about.

00:11:41They care desperately. For whatever reason, they just went a different way.

00:11:45Oh, man. When they canceled the show, I felt great. Oh, wait. No. The other thing.

00:11:52It was a gut punch. I just couldn't accept it. I wouldn't accept it.

00:11:58Clearly, I'm surrounded by other people who didn't accept it. That's what this is all about.

00:12:02The fact that none of us were going to put up with that nonsense.

00:12:06So I'm directing. And I have my crew there. And I think practically every member of the cast was there

00:12:15that day.

00:12:17And Joss asked me, you know, should we tell them now or should we wait until we wrap?

00:12:23Because we knew that if we if we lowered the boom at that moment, that we probably wouldn't get a

00:12:28lot more shooting done.

00:12:29But frankly, I didn't feel like doing a lot more work at that point. And I said, you know, I

00:12:34think we have to tell them.

00:12:34He poked his head into the bridge. I need to talk to everybody. And it was one of those kind

00:12:40of like, oh, man, we just knew what it was because we've been beaten up for the last weeks and

00:12:48months and frustrated just like anybody who liked the show that it wasn't on every week.

00:12:55It was on every third. I mean, it was just the most insane non-chance of a TV show. And

00:13:01so and we all liked it so much.

00:13:04And we were all fighting this evil Empire Alliance on the TV show that Fox immediately became. And then it

00:13:11was like we'd lost to the Alliance.

00:13:13The metaphor was too sweet to ignore. But they kicked us down. And they kicked us while we were down.

00:13:23Yeah.

00:13:23I was in my trailer doing homework with my daughter and Joss apparently had wandered onto the set and said,

00:13:30I have some news.

00:13:31So I got a frantic knock on the door from the assistant director and said, you better get up to

00:13:37the set. We've been canceled.

00:13:40We were at work and Joss called everybody in, said, you know, need to have a talk. And he just

00:13:46let us know that it was that it was canceled.

00:13:52And it was. It was very emotional.

00:13:59When you write the way Joss wrote with an absolute clear definition from character to character, anybody could pick two

00:14:08or three out and relate to him.

00:14:12He gets emotional about it. It's, you know, it was, it was awful.

00:14:23I think, I think the hardest part during that moment was realizing that the family was breaking up.

00:14:33I was on set that day and he brought a group of us together and yeah, just sort of broke

00:14:40the news to everybody.

00:14:41And we stopped working that day and went to Nathan's and got drunk, pretty much.

00:14:49Except for me, because I don't drink. But everyone went off and drowned their sorrows.

00:14:56Reminisced, told more stories. Remember that time today?

00:15:02Right around lunch.

00:15:04That was a good time. Right before 530.

00:15:06Right before 530.

00:15:08Yeah. That was a tough day.

00:15:10I don't mind saying it. I was really, really happy doing Firefly.

00:15:15And I remember the next day, there's a scene in that episode where Mal and Inara and Zoe are sitting

00:15:22around the table in the dining area and they're telling stories about this dead kid.

00:15:31Funny stories. And they're supposed to be laughing uproariously. And that was actually the first scene that we shot after

00:15:39getting word that the show was canceled.

00:15:41So everyone sort of showed up on the set that day, very depressed, very gloomy, feeling as if someone in

00:15:48fact had died.

00:15:49And those three actors sat there and started laughing hysterically.

00:15:53So, when it was taken away, let's talk about something else.

00:16:03You're going to have to cut the camera off when he starts crying.

00:16:06Doing that, wow. He's going to be in the bathroom.

00:16:12Anyway, Joss goes to his office and I run in there and I say, so what's the deal?

00:16:16He says, we're canceled. But he was already on the phone with the network saying, I want the show, please

00:16:21let me have the show.

00:16:22I want to try to sell it somewhere else.

00:16:23I talked to the president of the network and all I said was, will you let me take it somewhere

00:16:29else?

00:16:30She said, yes. That was our entire conversation. I believe it was our last.

00:16:35And they did very graciously let me take it somewhere else.

00:16:39And so, you know, it did not die, but it was close.

00:16:43I love these characters. I love these actors. What are we going to do?

00:16:47And we kind of laid out all the networks, the cable stations.

00:16:51We talked about, you know, direct-to-DVD, mini-series, a brief discussion of Sock Puppet Theatre, which has been

00:17:00widely reported.

00:17:02And we just kind of went out and started pounding away and trying to figure out what would happen and

00:17:07how we could keep it moving forward.

00:17:09The loyalty and the dedication to fans is unlike anything I think anybody's ever seen.

00:17:15I mean, we all knew that Joss had an incredibly avid fan base and that Firefly did as well, but

00:17:23it started really with all these letters that I would get.

00:17:25At first we had the, they announced the hiatus and that was awful because we all know that that's the

00:17:31prelude to cancellation.

00:17:32But the night I found out that it was canceled, canceled was the night they showed Serenity, the pilot.

00:17:39And I found out about it like five or ten minutes before the show started.

00:17:44And then Serenity runs and the very last scene, Mal is sitting there and he's talking to Simon and he

00:17:53says he has a good day.

00:17:54And Simon's like, well, all these bad things happened. And he says, we're still flying.

00:17:58And I just bawled because we weren't.

00:18:08We've all heard the phrase, it's just a TV show.

00:18:12Many people who haven't seen Firefly don't understand what the fans are so passionate about.

00:18:18Joss, the man they called Joss.

00:18:23He wrote about space and such that fire with horns.

00:18:27Put up to the networks and gave them a four.

00:18:30Fox canceled his program, but that was their loss.

00:18:34The creator of Firefly, the man they call Joss.

00:18:39Now Joss saw the viewers heart breaking.

00:18:43He heard the Browncoats lament.

00:18:47He saw Fox management taken.

00:18:50His show in a way that made no sense.

00:18:54He said, you can do that to my program.

00:18:58Can't grind it under your heel.

00:19:00So he took all his cast and, well, now at last, they've landed a big damn movie heel.

00:19:08He wrote about spaceships and shepherds and horns.

00:19:12Put up to the networks and gave them what for.

00:19:15Fox canceled his program, but that was their loss.

00:19:19The creator of Firefly, the man they call Joss.

00:19:22What are we going to do with our hands this year?

00:19:24Sorry.

00:19:25Now here is what separates Firefly from other shows you're likely to see.

00:19:31It's meaningful and witty, and the setting's really gritty,

00:19:35and the theme song's about serenity.

00:19:39It's a little like a western, yeah!

00:19:42It's a little like X-Files.

00:19:45It's better than Trek, and it's funnier than Shrek,

00:19:49and it beats out Andromeda by miles.

00:19:51He wrote about spaceships and shepherds and horns.

00:19:56Stood up to the networks and gave them what for.

00:19:59Fox canceled his program, but that was their loss.

00:20:03The creator of Firefly, the man they call Joss.

00:20:07Dong Ma.

00:20:20Chinese.

00:20:35He wrote about spaceships and shepherds and horns.

00:20:40He wrote about spaceships and shepherds and horns.

00:20:40Could have tuned the networks and gave them what for.

00:20:43Fox canceled his program, but that was their loss.

00:20:47He created a fire by the man they call Joss.

00:20:57Unsure of what needed to be done next,

00:21:00the fans tried many things to bring Firefly back.

00:21:04And so, the browncoat movement began.

00:21:07The Firefly fans put their money and their time and their support out there

00:21:12and extended it in a way beyond clicking on a yes button.

00:21:15We wrote to the networks, we wrote to all of the advertisers,

00:21:19and we started gathering money for an ad in Variety magazine.

00:21:24I signed the petition online, and that's how I became involved with the browncoats.

00:21:28I jumped on the bandwagon with everybody immediately.

00:21:30I was doing the postcards, we were writing the letters.

00:21:33I think it also for us was maybe a lightning rod for our frustration with television

00:21:39and pretty much, you know, pop culture in general,

00:21:42kind of appealing to the lowest common denominator.

00:21:45And it was kind of like, you know, oh, it's a television show, you let it go.

00:21:49Whatever it is that's gotten canceled or whatever it is that you might have loved

00:21:51that I feel like if I love it, it's going to get canceled, you know.

00:21:55And so it was like, no, this was the one place at which to take a stand.

00:21:59I couldn't believe it.

00:22:01I couldn't believe it.

00:22:01And the show that they replaced Firefly with?

00:22:04It sucked.

00:22:05It sucked.

00:22:05It was a teenage, which by the way didn't last very long either.

00:22:09It's interesting.

00:22:10It's like, if you look at the show, and if you look at who the people on Serenity are,

00:22:17you know, there's sort of a bunch of losers who don't have a spitz chance in hell.

00:22:22Well, those are the Firefly fans.

00:22:24Well, I remember the night that I found out that the show had been canceled.

00:22:29And you know how we went on the boards and there were all these trolls trolling around?

00:22:33Yes.

00:22:34I found out through a troll.

00:22:35He's like, thank God that show is canceled.

00:22:37It was about time.

00:22:38I'm like, no, no, this is just a troll.

00:22:40And it was for real.

00:22:41The show had been canceled.

00:22:43I got so depressed that day.

00:22:45I mean, my friend, this guy I know, was like, for God's sakes, it's just the show,

00:22:51because he was involved, but not as much as I was.

00:22:53I'm like, no, it's not just the show.

00:22:55This is like a TV phenomenon.

00:23:00I'm kidding.

00:23:02I'm not the one.

00:23:03I'm not the one.

00:23:05I'm not the one.

00:23:07I'm not the one.

00:23:08I'm not the one.

00:23:09I'm not the one.

00:23:10So we got together.

00:23:11It was great.

00:23:13And we watched it together.

00:23:14And it was also strange.

00:23:16All women.

00:23:17And it was science fiction.

00:23:18And we're like, isn't this all women?

00:23:19Isn't this cool?

00:23:20This is great.

00:23:21That's one of Joss's main strengths, is that he can write things that appealed to women

00:23:25and to men.

00:23:26What we have is pure storytelling.

00:23:28The kind of thing that our ancient ancestors would gather around the fire to hear some old

00:23:34man or young man tell stories, or actually, you know, the fairy tales, folk tales were

00:23:39the stories of women, that they would tell the children to frighten them half to death

00:23:42and get them to go to bed, I suppose.

00:23:44But, you know, that's the kind of storytelling that's going on here, is storytelling done

00:23:48to captivate an audience to make them feel like something terribly important is happening

00:23:52in the world around them.

00:23:53I think that the people that stayed faithful and stayed positive that we were going to

00:23:58return are just pinching themselves that they're rewarded with this.

00:24:03Thank God for Chris Buchanan and Adam Baldwin who hinted that Joss's was not giving up

00:24:09and to not lose faith.

00:24:11And when they said it, I didn't, because I knew it was too good.

00:24:15My staff and my crew and my cast, we were heartbroken.

00:24:20And the fact that we saw that kind of support meant that, you know, even though we might

00:24:26have ended it there, we had been hurt by people who took us very, very seriously.

00:24:33And ultimately, that matters more than how long you get to live with something.

00:24:44Okay, so the show had been canceled, the sets had been torn down, and attempts to sell Firefly

00:24:50to other networks had failed.

00:24:51By now, the fans of ordinary TV series would have moved on.

00:24:55Punks.

00:24:56But instead, the Firefly community grew stronger.

00:25:00The words Firefly and Browncoat came to symbolize a sense of community and family,

00:25:06and a conviction that the impossible can be accomplished.

00:25:09These concepts are at the very heart of Firefly and its fans.

00:25:16Browncoats.

00:25:17It's not just, you know, a cute name because that's what they call the people on the show.

00:25:19I mean, that's who we are.

00:25:20We're the people who lost and we're the people who were, you know, brothers in arms when,

00:25:25you know, the cancellation came down.

00:25:26And we just keep finding each other and we find people that we can still appreciate and understand

00:25:32and that we're all sort of on the same page.

00:25:36The fans of Firefly are in fact sort of these characters on the ship.

00:25:40I love the fans.

00:25:41I love the fans.

00:25:42For me, a Browncoat, as I said, is someone that's really smart.

00:25:46Yeah, the Browncoats are pretty much the best fan base in the whole world.

00:25:50I stumbled across a message board that Fox had set up and that's where I met all these

00:25:57wonderful Browncoats and discovered the community and realized that there was still hope.

00:26:01You meet with Browncoats and most of the time you just know their screen name.

00:26:05So you walk around calling people things like Cave Witch and Pip and 11th.

00:26:12That's also where I met Soonardax.

00:26:15You always wonder what people like sitting behind you think when you're like,

00:26:19Hey, Fly. Why is they calling her Fly?

00:26:24I was never really an internet person for fan groups before this, but they were just so nice

00:26:30and I had such a ball online that I just needed to meet them in person

00:26:34and they are as wonderful in person as they are online.

00:26:37This whole experience has changed my life, you know.

00:26:42People don't believe me when I say it, but I'm actually very shy.

00:26:45But because of this, I've come out of my shell more than I had ever been before.

00:26:50And so that's why I think so many of us feel a bond to each other in terms of serenity

00:26:56because we all feel like we're part of a great family.

00:26:59When you meet a Browncoat for the first time, they don't shake hands.

00:27:02They hug you right away and it's like a family and you feel that from the actors too.

00:27:07I was intrigued by the level of intellect with the fan base and the online message boards

00:27:16are a very convenient way of communicating.

00:27:21We're on the boards and everybody's screen name, but we don't really have anybody else in our lives

00:27:26who's into it. So other than being on the boards, that's it.

00:27:31So coming down and meeting everyone, it's like getting together with family that you've never met before.

00:27:37I came from primarily Klingon fandom before. That was my big thing.

00:27:41And that's where I met my husband, most of the people who are my best friends.

00:27:44But a lot of them are now Browncoats.

00:27:45So many people welcomed me so nicely. I've now got tons of friends.

00:27:49I'm actually doing my entire leg, four months in the U.S., staying with Browncoats.

00:27:53I think we were driven by just this love of something that was so good

00:27:59and that we didn't want to see die.

00:28:01And it was such a strong desire that I think it really just bonded us together.

00:28:05And it made us powerful, it made us mighty.

00:28:08Opening up their homes to other people and donating their time,

00:28:13money, all the charities that have benefited from the Browncoats.

00:28:16Joss is a big promoter of charity.

00:28:19Well, I'm really against it.

00:28:21I don't see why we should benefit others.

00:28:24That money could be spent on big cars, more drugs.

00:28:30There's a lot of things that could be done with that money.

00:28:31But they went with charity, like that's important.

00:28:35You know, they're better people than I am, which is a little annoying.

00:28:40But the fact of the matter is, that's always been a side of who these fans are.

00:28:47That their first instinct would be to raise enough money to do what they needed

00:28:52and then do something right with the rest of it.

00:28:54The San Francisco Browncoats had a fundraiser.

00:28:57They had a lot of amazing prizes that were donated, like actual things from the show,

00:29:03actual props and a costume and stuff.

00:29:06And so I contributed to that a little and they ended up raising an obscene amount of money,

00:29:12a wonderful amount of money for Equality Now, which is Joss Whedon's main charity.

00:29:19After the Comic Con, Ray called me to tell me how much that they had raised for us.

00:29:29And it was over $12,000, which was astounding.

00:29:34I think that a lot of the fans are the type who want to do something

00:29:38and show that it's not just about a TV show.

00:29:43It's about people.

00:29:45And people help other people whenever you can.

00:29:47I'm not saying that's something Mal would have done,

00:29:50but it is something that I think shows enormous character

00:29:54and I like to think is something that we help build together,

00:29:58that the unity that they get from the show and from each other,

00:30:03you know, brings out the best in them, which as you can see is pretty extraordinary.

00:30:13With no new episodes of Firefly being aired and an uncertain future,

00:30:17fans turned to themselves to fill the gap.

00:30:20They held shindigs, joined message boards.

00:30:23I've read a few myself.

00:30:25Donated to charities and shared their passion about Firefly with each other.

00:30:29They created music, art, podcasts, spoofs, live journals and fan fiction.

00:30:35Some of that stuff's pretty creepy.

00:30:36But most importantly, they continued to spread the word of the show through guerrilla marketing.

00:30:42And by purchasing hundreds of thousands of DVDs.

00:30:46When it came out on DVD, that was, as soon as I saw it in the store, without a doubt,

00:30:50that was the first thing I grabbed.

00:30:51I didn't even think about it or hesitate.

00:30:54I didn't think about any kind of money that I owed, you know, bills or anything.

00:30:57I knew I was going to watch Firefly.

00:30:59You know, I went immediately out and got the box set and binge watched it.

00:31:03That Christmas, everybody, I could imagine, you know, got those from me.

00:31:07Spent a lot of money that Christmas.

00:31:09If the time arises and I happen to need to have a disc set, I say, here, you need to

00:31:12see this.

00:31:13It's pretty much the only Christmas present we gave last year.

00:31:16We gave everybody we knew Firefly disc sets.

00:31:18A copy of Firefly, yeah.

00:31:19At this point, I think I've purchased probably 70 or 80 box sets of Firefly.

00:31:28Some of them I've sold to people at cost, but a lot of them I've just given away.

00:31:31So I had never heard of Firefly, but my son gave it to me for Christmas, right after, you know,

00:31:36the first Christmas after it came out.

00:31:38And said, you've got to watch this, it's the greatest series ever.

00:31:40I don't know why I resisted this, but when he came the next Christmas, it was still there in shrink

00:31:45wrap on our shelves.

00:31:46I had not looked at it.

00:31:48And he treated me as if, as if I had killed a baby or something.

00:31:51You know, you didn't watch it.

00:31:53The day we found out the DVDs were being released, we ran right out and reserved multiple copies.

00:31:58I've destroyed three sets of DVDs, lending them out.

00:32:00Pre-sales were like number one on Amazon, number one at Suncoast, number one everywhere.

00:32:05The pre-sales, out, out, they never thought they would have that big a volume for something that had only

00:32:11been on the air for 10 episodes.

00:32:13We got the DVD and just fell in love all over again.

00:32:17It worked. I mean, the minute people get their hands on those and start watching the show, they finally get

00:32:21what they missed.

00:32:23I've had people who were making fun of the show and never really seen it and just, ah, I'm never

00:32:27going to watch that show.

00:32:28Bought them the DVDs. By the end of the DVDs, they were angry at me because I bought it and

00:32:33there were no more to watch.

00:32:34I watched all the episodes and I left one.

00:32:37Like, I didn't watch the last one for the longest time because I just, I felt like, you know, if

00:32:41there's one left, you know, there's always Firefly is going to be there.

00:32:44Like, it's never going to end.

00:32:45I was in love. I could not believe that I had wasted a year in which I could have known

00:32:49about Firefly and been watching.

00:32:51It is the greatest science fiction television series ever created.

00:32:55In fact, in some ways, it's the first good television series of science fiction.

00:33:00I got hold of one of those, you know, those famous roving DVD sets that, like, go out of your

00:33:05house and never come back.

00:33:06And, you know, so we end up, I think we end up with, like, four or five of those sets.

00:33:10Did you ever return those?

00:33:11Uh, no.

00:33:13I passed them out to somebody else and bought another one.

00:33:16I keep two disc sets, one that I've had the cast member sign and one that I pass out to

00:33:21somebody.

00:33:22Everybody was trying to do whatever they possibly could, you know, getting the word out everywhere, you know, to try

00:33:26to do something to keep this going.

00:33:28And then when the DVDs, you know, it was like, okay, tell everybody you know, tell everybody you don't know.

00:33:34Do something, whatever it takes to get people to go and buy these DVDs.

00:33:37So, yeah, we've done some good converting.

00:33:39That's what brand codes do.

00:33:41Any one of my friends who I thought might like it have been saying, you have to put it in

00:33:46your Netflix queue.

00:33:47Put it in your Netflix queue.

00:33:48But, of course, I also hand sell this.

00:33:50Well, not hand sell.

00:33:51I hand give it away.

00:33:52I force people to watch it.

00:33:53I do what my son did and I'm appalled when they don't instantly respond the way that he was appalled

00:33:59when I hadn't watched it.

00:34:01But just a couple of weeks ago at the beach, my brother and his family became hooked on the series.

00:34:06Earlier than that, we gave it to some good friends in Greensboro and they watched the whole thing straight through.

00:34:12It sells itself.

00:34:13It's so easy.

00:34:14They just showed me the DVD.

00:34:16Oh, my God.

00:34:17This is great.

00:34:18Cowboys in space.

00:34:20Yeah.

00:34:20And so a friend of mine, I was preaching to him all summer, all this summer.

00:34:25And we went on a trip together and the whole trip I was like, you would love it.

00:34:29It's great.

00:34:29It's in space and it's this Western and the characters and you think it's great.

00:34:34And finally, I got it.

00:34:35Jeff, we got an email from him one day out of the blue and it said, I just watched the

00:34:39first DVD and I've moved all the others up on my queue to the top.

00:34:43And then the next email was, I'm finished and Fox is crazy that they canceled that show.

00:34:48Once you get them started, that's what folks say.

00:34:50I joke with people when they get them interested is that, okay, just make sure to watch, you know, if

00:34:55you're willing to commit at least the first four episodes, four or five, you know, a couple hours of your

00:35:00life and see if it's something you like.

00:35:01But don't try to give up on one or two just like anything and boom, they're hooked.

00:35:05No one has at least listened or watched that first DVD worth has come back and said, no, I didn't

00:35:11like it, Jeff.

00:35:12They've been, it's hard getting them maybe into that, but once they've got it, cha-ching, it's a done deal.

00:35:17Just another rallying point, more guerrilla marketing began and, you know, everybody's doing whatever they could to just keep it

00:35:24going.

00:35:25I remember when the guerrilla marketing started when Fox hired some company, some online company to do the guerrilla marketing

00:35:31and they had a banner contest.

00:35:34And 11th obviously won.

00:35:36There was no doubt she was going to.

00:35:38And I was like, oh, this is great.

00:35:40I can't wait to see if it's going to be on Yahoo's homepage or whatever.

00:35:44And they said, here it is.

00:35:46Now put this on your web, your obscure little web pages.

00:35:50And I was so pissed.

00:35:51I remember I started to throw and I said, guerrilla marketing, I'll show you guerrilla marketing.

00:35:56And then everybody, and then that's when 11th just took over the guerrilla marketing campaign and started bringing out the

00:36:02posters

00:36:02and everybody started doing anything and everything they could.

00:36:06There's one person, she owns a restaurant.

00:36:09So what she does is she, I think, stamps serenity on all of her one dollar bills.

00:36:16And as soon as I completed the DVD set, I just immediately became a missionary for this show.

00:36:21And I was going around trying to find people that haven't watched it before, people that I work with, people

00:36:26that I go to church with,

00:36:27people that I just know in passing or whatever, and say, hey, you need to see this show.

00:36:32Yeah, we do silly things like going into stores and looking to make sure Firefly is prominently displayed on the

00:36:37shelf.

00:36:38And if it's not, well, where's Firefly? Do you carry Firefly?

00:36:41Well, okay, thanks.

00:36:42And then make sure to move it so it's right in front and everyone can see it.

00:36:46I made a little sign that said something about Firefly rocks.

00:36:50Don't take my word for it. Talk to the fans.

00:36:55And I live in the middle of nowhere where that Walmart's about it as far as buying DVDs.

00:37:00And I went in, I had it already taped, and I kind of, you see the cameras up all over.

00:37:05And I just kind of walked by and taped the little tear-off sheet.

00:37:08It was prettier than the Walmart special price things.

00:37:11And I'd go back and check on it for the first sheet.

00:37:13After about the third day, I saw that it had gotten torn up, a card had touched, it was on

00:37:18the ground.

00:37:19I didn't have any tape with me, and I walked over to this, you know, young kid working the entertainment

00:37:23counter,

00:37:23and I said, Miss, your Firefly sign has fallen off the display.

00:37:29You might want to take that back up and watch the Walmart employee put it back up.

00:37:34And I was like, I love guerrilla marketing.

00:37:38So I have a sense that browncoats are sort of like Star Trek fans were back in the old days

00:37:42before they started making Star Trek movies.

00:37:44There really isn't a whole lot out there to sustain them, so they kind of have to invent it themselves

00:37:49with the fanfiction and the artwork.

00:37:52I'm amazingly impressed by some of the fan artwork that I see.

00:37:55I was watching R. Mrs. Reynolds, and the dance music from The Wedding got stuck in my head, and it

00:38:03just kept going over and over in my head.

00:38:05And I said, okay, darn it.

00:38:06So I got out the DVD, I learned it, I learned it, went up to a Renaissance Festival that weekend

00:38:11and ran into some friends.

00:38:12And they said, hey, let's jam. And I said, oh, I have this new tune. Played it for them.

00:38:16And they said, wow, that's beautiful. Where'd that come from?

00:38:18And I said, there's the show. And sure enough, they've become browncoats.

00:38:24If there's a great story, I love to put that into art. I've always loved movie posters growing up,

00:38:31and anything I ever saw that I liked, I wanted to express it in a way. It should be storytelling,

00:38:36not just showing the people in it.

00:38:38And I was telling them, I want to do something for this show.

00:38:41I wrote the novelization of Serenity for Pocket Books, and I also wrote an essay in the book Finding Serenity,

00:38:48which was a collection of essays about Firefly published by Ben Bella Books.

00:38:51And the fan fiction thing is, it gives me, for me, it gives me a creative outlet that I wouldn't

00:39:00get otherwise.

00:39:01And it lets me answer the what if questions and do fun things with it.

00:39:05It's really fantastic that all around the country, you know, we travel around and do Renaissance festivals.

00:39:11And all around the country, we've run into browncoats.

00:39:15Various wives and girlfriends, like, started saying,

00:39:17why are you spending all your time in the basement doing these useless things?

00:39:20You're playing cards! You're playing cards!

00:39:22How about do something like, you know, I don't know, pick up some instruments,

00:39:26play some music together, something useful with your lives, you know?

00:39:28And so we started, and then they regretted that because...

00:39:33That's what happened.

00:39:34That's what happened. It is, it really is. We're not lying.

00:39:37We know that a couple other game companies were bidding for the rights.

00:39:41In fact, you know, we heard sort of through the grapevine that actually some of them even offered better money.

00:39:46And when we were told, basically, you know, we were given the opportunity to kind of match what some of

00:39:51these other companies were able to do.

00:39:53And we said, we can't. We're a new startup company. We're small.

00:39:56So we kind of thought that was it.

00:39:59But ultimately, it turned out we were chosen, despite not even having the best financial offer,

00:40:04because probably just because of the people involved, and we heard that Joss actually chose us.

00:40:10Joss and the cast were signing different stuff, and a few people brought the print over of what I did

00:40:16for him to sign,

00:40:17and for the rest of the cast to sign. He said, did you do this?

00:40:21I said, yeah.

00:40:22He said, this is the best compliment I ever got on my show. Thank you.

00:40:25The Signal is a podcast that's completely devoted to Firefly and Serenity,

00:40:29and we started it up pretty much as a guerrilla marketing effort for the upcoming movie.

00:40:34And because we love this so much, we just really put our heart and soul into this project,

00:40:38and everybody, in fact, who worked on it.

00:40:43Eleventh Hour, who did the graphic design, she and Jamie stayed up literally 48 hours straight

00:40:50trying to get the approvals through,

00:40:52and doing the work that we could get it to Universal to get it approved.

00:40:56The way I express myself is through the art,

00:40:59and I wanted to create something that had the entire cast and also included the writing.

00:41:08That's the great thing about the role-playing game, as far as I'm concerned,

00:41:11because it's telling a story.

00:41:14Storytelling is something that relates to everybody.

00:41:18Story is the universal language.

00:41:20You get these little ideas in your head.

00:41:23Well, what would happen if, for instance, Kay Lee brought a kitten aboard the Serenity,

00:41:29and everybody tried to hide it from Mal because he has a no pets policy,

00:41:33and it proceeds to make Jane's life miserable,

00:41:37and then in the end he warms up to it because it kills a rat twice its size,

00:41:42and he can respect that.

00:41:43One of the things that a novel can do that a movie can't,

00:41:46and one of the things that I think is very important to do in a novelization

00:41:48is get inside the thoughts of the characters.

00:41:51Each scene is very hard-filtered through one particular person's perceptions.

00:41:56Serenity speaks to all of that, I think, in us, and does so in fresh new ways.

00:42:01I went to a friend's house and I watched two episodes,

00:42:04and I loved it so much that he bought the series for me.

00:42:07So, and since then we kind of just, we watched it and we really loved the cult,

00:42:11so we wanted to make it.

00:42:12I'm not really an autograph collecting kind of fan.

00:42:15I'm the kind of fan that wants to actually make something concrete to show like,

00:42:21look, I'm a fan. Here's my proof. Look at this.

00:42:24In late 2003, rumors started to kind of spread on the internet that we might get a movie out of

00:42:30this thing,

00:42:30and I wanted to make sure that would happen.

00:42:34So the best way I could think of doing it was to create a website to kind of help spread

00:42:38the word,

00:42:39do guerrilla marketing, give techniques, and just generally kind of pimp the show.

00:42:44So I created fireflymovie.com.

00:42:46For Abishad, we do recreations of movie clothing,

00:42:48and so what drives a product for us is the demand by the customers.

00:42:54So we've had so many requests for a brown coat that we just had to make it.

00:42:59We knew that it was going to be a popular product, and we can't keep up with the orders.

00:43:02Everybody wants one.

00:43:04I've made a short film called Mosquito, a behind-the-scenes preview.

00:43:08It's a Firefly parody taking a comical look at a new science fiction western that's doomed to failure.

00:43:15And I thought, Joss, the man they call Joss.

00:43:20I thought, oh, somebody's written that already. I'm sure. Come on, that's way too obvious.

00:43:25But no, nobody had. So I spent that drive working up lyrics.

00:43:31I wrote this Firefly Filks song just because I loved the characters so much,

00:43:35I wanted to write a song to say something about that.

00:43:38And before I knew it, I had written several more, and I just couldn't stop.

00:43:43It was a strange thing, but I'm happy it happened.

00:43:45We all got ahold of the Serenity theme. Logan loved that.

00:43:48And he started playing that on the guitar.

00:43:51Learned the chords off the internet.

00:43:53Yeah, yeah.

00:43:53He had them on the internet.

00:43:58Take my love, take my land. Take me where I cannot stand.

00:44:04I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me.

00:44:11Take me out through the black. Tell them I ain't coming back.

00:44:18When the land will see, you can't take the sky from me.

00:44:40You can't take the sky from me.

00:44:42I have no place I can be.

00:44:44Since I've found so many feet.

00:44:48You can't take the sky from me.

00:44:56I wrote that song, the theme song, before I wrote the pilot.

00:45:00After I sold the show, the day I sold the show, I went home and wrote that song.

00:45:04And it was supposed to be a kind of little bluesy, you know, folk song

00:45:10that was written after the Battle of Serenity.

00:45:12And take me into the black could mean that I've died, or it could mean that I've gone into space.

00:45:16It just, everything that I was sort of trying to evoke emotionally for what I was going to put Mal

00:45:21through

00:45:21was in that song, and it helped center me and sort of get me started on the screenplay.

00:45:26Take my love, take my land. Take me where I cannot stand.

00:45:34I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me.

00:45:41And I'm still free.

00:45:42Take me where I can, well, I'm still free.

00:45:54I can't take the sky from me.

00:46:00She's running around so far and see her can't take the sky from me.

00:46:12The Brown Coat community, it's a family, and what I like to tell people about shindigs

00:46:16who haven't gone, a shindig is a family reunion of people you haven't met yet.

00:46:21So get yourself to a shindig, is what I always say.

00:46:24Shindigs are really just an excuse for fans to get together.

00:46:27We, you know, maybe we'll meet at someone's house and cook fajitas and watch some episodes,

00:46:32or we'll meet at a library and talk, or a bookstore, or whatever.

00:46:36It's just an excuse for fans to get together and talk about what we love.

00:46:39You go to screenings, you go to events, you go to Comic Con, and you immediately have friends.

00:46:46It's automatic friendship.

00:46:47Actually, the first time I went to a shindig was when you invited me, Jeremy invited you.

00:46:52To Jeremy's house.

00:46:53Yeah.

00:46:54And I'm not going to lie to you, I was a little bit nervous, actually.

00:46:56I'd never met people online before.

00:46:58And I remember telling someone, I'm going over here, and I meet these people from the internet, okay?

00:47:02So, just in case.

00:47:04I'm like, you know what, I'm going, and my husband's like, you're going to get killed with an axe.

00:47:08But when we actually got there, it was pretty fun because the fans were way cool just to hang out

00:47:15with them

00:47:15and BS with them, and the fajitas that we ate were good.

00:47:20Dude, the fajitas were way good.

00:47:21And, like, three people stood up, and they're like, Beanie's here!

00:47:25And I got all these huge hugs from people I had never seen face-to-face before but talk with

00:47:30all the time on the OB.

00:47:32Being with these people that got it, that felt exactly the same way, and they were browncoats, really are all

00:47:40kind, smart, generous people.

00:47:43And there's so much passion amongst the Firefly fans that you just, you kind of just get sucked into it.

00:47:50Passion is what makes life worth living.

00:47:52And when you have a strong passion for something, and you meet someone else who has an equally strong passion

00:47:58about something,

00:47:59you can't help but share that passion.

00:48:01And it's a very exciting thing when it happens.

00:48:04You see right-wingers, you see left-wingers, you see old, you see young.

00:48:07There is no stereotype in this group.

00:48:09I think it's one of the broadest fan bases I've ever seen.

00:48:12We go to Shindigs.

00:48:13I'm part of the SF Browncoats and the Silicon Gulch Browncoats.

00:48:15We have monthly meetings, and it's pretty much just an instant friendship with everybody.

00:48:20It's a lot more mature of a fan base.

00:48:22And I think the reason for that is because the crew, the characters, are a chosen family.

00:48:27They're not related, but they've chosen to be together.

00:48:30The people who are attracted to this have so much dedication to making it grow and be around for as

00:48:35long as it can be.

00:48:36You know, you don't just go out and do something like this for fun, for free, and donate all of

00:48:42your time,

00:48:42and do it because it's just something to do.

00:48:46You do it because it's something you believe in.

00:48:56So for nearly two years, the fans, the actors, and Joss Whedon continued to fight for their show.

00:49:02They simply wouldn't let it die.

00:49:05To the surprise of nearly everyone in Hollywood, their efforts paid off.

00:49:11In early 2004, Universal Studios officially announced Serenity, also known as the Big Damn Movie.

00:49:19When I first told them that the movie was a go, they were angry.

00:49:24Oh, again, I'm getting that wrong.

00:49:26What's that word?

00:49:27They're happy.

00:49:28You know, I've been keeping them abreast of the whole process,

00:49:31so it wasn't like I suddenly dropped back out of the blue a year later and said,

00:49:34we got a movie.

00:49:36They need every, you know, I can't keep my mouth shut.

00:49:38Everything.

00:49:39Well, I talked to them.

00:49:39I don't know, maybe.

00:49:41I'll call you in a couple of weeks.

00:49:42And also because I wanted to keep track of them, so I didn't go, we've got the film.

00:49:46And Nathan would be like, I'm in Gdansk.

00:49:48I'm doing a series for the next nine years, but good luck with it.

00:49:51So, you know, we kept tabs on each other.

00:49:54I'm not quite sure why Joss went to Universal as opposed to, you know, Paramount or someone

00:49:59like that, except I do know that there was an executive, is an executive, Mary Parent,

00:50:03who was very supportive of Joss.

00:50:05The thing we had in our back pocket that was great was Mary Parent, who was co-head of Universal

00:50:10Studios, really wanted to be in business with Joss and had made that known over the last,

00:50:16a couple of years leading up to the cancellation.

00:50:19And when she heard about the show getting canceled and she called Joss up and said, hey,

00:50:23man, what, you know, I want to do something with you.

00:50:25What do you want to do?

00:50:26He said, Firefly, I want to keep telling the story.

00:50:29And to her credit, she said, okay, go write a script.

00:50:33The script worked great.

00:50:34And if you've never heard of, I mean, it had to, and that was sort of the thing that Joss

00:50:38and I talked a lot about before he wrote the script, which was you've got to create

00:50:42a story, you've got to create a movie that if you've never heard of Firefly before that

00:50:47you can go in and have a great movie going experience.

00:50:50And at the same time, you have to remain, you know, loyal to the fans and true to the

00:50:54underlying, you know, um, genesis of the material.

00:50:58But that was a big part.

00:51:00It was being able to make it to the right budget and to be able to show the DVD sales

00:51:05and just a sense of, you know, the online fan sites that there was a significant amount

00:51:11of people out there that those people combined with what the movie would be on its own would

00:51:17hopefully on a worldwide basis, you know, recoup its money.

00:51:20I never believed that Joss wasn't going to get a movie made.

00:51:25So when the call came, I just felt, okay, this is a natural progression.

00:51:30Congratulations.

00:51:31That's great.

00:51:32When do we start?

00:51:33Something I've been waiting for, something that all the fans deserve.

00:51:38Crocs to Universal.

00:51:39Yeah.

00:51:40Because those guys know a good show.

00:51:44I stood up for my computer screen and I did a Snoopy dance and my kids were like,

00:51:48mom's going nuts.

00:51:50So I was just thrilled to have my friends back in my life.

00:51:52That's what it felt like anyway.

00:51:54It's a movie for the fans and I heard the DVD sales kind of helped push it along.

00:51:58So in a way it's a movie by the fans.

00:52:01Hats off to the fans.

00:52:03You know, they're the reason that this still exists.

00:52:05On a lot of levels, the fans' involvement has helped because, first of all, Universal

00:52:10has a bottom line and the fact that the DVD sales were huge, that they would come and

00:52:15see these booths and be like, they're advertising a movie we haven't made yet, excited them very

00:52:21much and gave them confidence in something that isn't a normal, you know, major release.

00:52:27It all actually emanated from our first test screening, which was supposed to be

00:52:32completely unbiased and only populated with fans to the extent that, you know, random

00:52:37selection would have some fans.

00:52:38And we showed up at the theater and I knew we were in trouble when I had a couple people

00:52:42say to me on the way in, hey Chris, how's it going?

00:52:45It was actually a great way to screen the movie the first time.

00:52:47It was probably 75% fans and people went insane, which was great for everybody to get a sense.

00:52:52Like they knew, but they really got immersed in what the Joss fan world was.

00:52:57And, I mean, people were crying, they were moved by the film, and it was really effective.

00:53:03It actually couldn't have worked out better.

00:53:04When we went to the very first test screening, it was very, very, I mean, it was the very

00:53:07first one.

00:53:08And there were big gaps where there were still no effects and things like that.

00:53:12So it wasn't, you know, you're not going to get the full effect, but it was still extremely

00:53:17powerful and extremely moving and you saw how great it was going to be.

00:53:21I think the thing that is so really outstanding about these Firefly Serenity fans is the incredible

00:53:33inspiration and power that they have given to us.

00:53:37It's really set a standard and a bar for what I expect from a work experience.

00:53:43These actors just brought people to them.

00:53:46Like you can't watch them and not be involved in what they're going through.

00:53:50They're just too fascinating.

00:53:51Working on the series was one of the most enjoyable, if not the most enjoyable, experience

00:53:57because that cast were the nicest group of people.

00:54:01And Nathan in particular is one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet in your life.

00:54:07Nathan, well, Nathan's difficult.

00:54:10I've seen him slap little girls.

00:54:13Nathan Fillion is the hardest individual in the world to work with.

00:54:18Honest to God, it was, I, she fell to the ground.

00:54:22Blood.

00:54:23I almost fainted.

00:54:25It was awful.

00:54:26I don't want to talk about this anymore.

00:54:28This is a secret between us that I actually like Nathan Fillion.

00:54:31He's not actually the bastard that I always say that he is.

00:54:34He's actually a guy who's a dear friend of mine who I love.

00:54:37But let's keep that just between us.

00:54:39Nathan's great.

00:54:40The fact that the cast would have parties and invite the crew, which is really, I mean,

00:54:45usually the cast is in their own world, and they invited the crew.

00:54:49Nathan, he was just so nice because he was like, do you want a picture?

00:54:52He took my camera and was taking pictures for us.

00:54:54And I saw Nathan Fillion walking by.

00:54:58And so, you know, like I knew anything, I yelled over, Nathan, come on over here for

00:55:05just a second.

00:55:05And he just came over.

00:55:07He was so nice.

00:55:08He was so nice.

00:55:09Came over, and I said, can we get a picture?

00:55:11I did this because I knew that my wife was over here just blushing, and her heart was

00:55:17just...

00:55:19Oh, yes, you were definitely fangirl.

00:55:21It's not good.

00:55:22It's true.

00:55:22It's true, and so he came over, and he was so kind to us, so good to us, and we

00:55:29had a

00:55:29picture taken with him, and it was your standard, you know, give your camera to somebody, and

00:55:34they take the picture, and it's not very good because they stand in Philadelphia to do it.

00:55:38And so we had this picture taken, and Nathan said, come here, come here, come here.

00:55:44He took the camera away from them and put his arm around Lauren, pulled us, he says,

00:55:49all right, everybody in here tight.

00:55:50We all pulled in tight, really tight.

00:55:51And he held the camera out here and took the picture for us.

00:55:56And so we have this wonderful picture of the three of us.

00:55:58It's a great picture.

00:56:00The guy took a fabulous picture.

00:56:02And so we have this great picture of the three of us with our heads all together, and it was

00:56:07just a great moment.

00:56:08Every day was so wonderful to go to work on the show.

00:56:11I mean, it's the costume designer's dream.

00:56:13Love all the characters, love his style, love his writing.

00:56:17I just became a huge fan.

00:56:18Even though I was working on it, it was fun to be on the show and a fan of the

00:56:21project.

00:56:22That was a nice treat for me.

00:56:24Everyone who worked on that show cared desperately about that show.

00:56:28It was not just a bunch of people who said, oh, this is a job and I care about my

00:56:32job, but

00:56:33it's just another TV show.

00:56:34People were invested emotionally in this show, as was I.

00:56:38The show was a huge deal to me.

00:56:40I cared desperately about this show, and I would jump through any hoop to keep it alive.

00:56:45I'd have to say some of my favorite scenes.

00:56:48I loved, I really loved doing the last, my last scene in Armis' Reynolds, where he comes

00:56:55and finds me on the snowy planet and we have the battle scene in the cabin.

00:57:01One, because it was sexy.

00:57:02And two, because I got to do a little ass kicking, ass being kicked stuff, which was

00:57:10really, really fun.

00:57:11Don't we have great jobs?

00:57:12We have great jobs.

00:57:13This is what we do every day.

00:57:14And being kind of a Firefly fan myself, it was like, oh boy, I'm getting to tinker with

00:57:18the, you know, the real thing now.

00:57:20Oh, and the Alliance logo, too.

00:57:22Oh, and by far the most important, the Serenity logo.

00:57:26That's my work.

00:57:27And if you've seen the film, and by now I'm sure you have, there's a wonderful moment

00:57:31where it just like fills the screen and shimmers.

00:57:34It's like, look at me, I'm your logo.

00:57:37And then you see it on the front of Serenity.

00:57:38So to me, that's about the most exciting.

00:57:40It's almost as good as getting like a credit above the title of a film, seeing the Serenity

00:57:44logo like that.

00:57:46I'm still tingling.

00:57:48My involvement in Serenity was that Joss would give me drafts of the script.

00:57:54It was sort of like back to the pilot.

00:57:58So he would give me drafts of the script, mostly because he wanted me to praise him.

00:58:02I don't think he really wanted to hear any criticism.

00:58:04But that's just him.

00:58:05He's crazy.

00:58:06And we're watching dailies, and Joss is sitting next to Lisa Lassik, our editor, and I'm sitting

00:58:12behind him, and he goes, we do this for a living.

00:58:17How cool is our job?

00:58:20This is so great.

00:58:21And I just had the biggest grin on my face.

00:58:24I'm like, I know.

00:58:24I was sad that Firefly was only on for a season because I was a fan of it, but was

00:58:29excited

00:58:29to see that there was now a movie that had evolved from it.

00:58:33So I wanted to be a part of it, and then eventually found my way to becoming an extra for

00:58:37it, which

00:58:37was great.

00:58:38Chris Buchanan kind of opened the door for the fans to become extras on the show, but

00:58:43he didn't make it too easy.

00:58:44You had to do a little research to find out how best to go about it.

00:58:47Because I was one of the first Brown Cokes to be able to be an extra, and because I wanted

00:58:53to share that with as many people as I could, I documented it on a fan site every step of

00:58:58the way.

00:58:58Once I figured out the agency you needed to talk to to become an extra, I called them

00:59:05and said, I'd like to be an extra on Serenity.

00:59:07And they said, oh, great.

00:59:08Are you from California?

00:59:09And I'm like, yeah.

00:59:10And they said, great.

00:59:13Well, can you come in in a couple of days for a fitting?

00:59:17I'm like, sure.

00:59:19I'm from Utah.

00:59:20So I flew down to California for a fitting and then had to fly back a week later for the

00:59:26actual filming.

00:59:27And I got paid 70 bucks for the whole experience.

00:59:29With all my fears and sorrows close, I'm hanging on, just hanging on.

00:59:36I wish that you were here with me to sail the sky's serenity.

00:59:43And take me high or take me low, through to the end where I may go.

00:59:50If I can stand, then I shall pass, as beyond this night of black, as beyond this night of black.

01:00:01And take me high or take me low, through to the end where I may go.

01:00:08If I can stand, then I shall pass, as beyond this night of black, as beyond this night of

01:00:18black.

01:00:21A wonderful working experience becomes a wonderful fan experience because you're working as a fan in a place that you're

01:00:29a fan of, doing things that other people like you are going to appreciate and understand and talk about and

01:00:37write about and make documentaries about.

01:00:39It's awesome.

01:00:40I compare every other job now to Firefly and Serenity.

01:00:55I know.

01:00:56It's just, and Joss, watching Joss work was fabulous.

01:01:00Just seeing how he has it in his brain, how exactly the shot is supposed to go.

01:01:05No, no, you have to go like this.

01:01:06How is our working relationship?

01:01:08It's, you know, he pretty much can say, I want you to do a battle thing with like, you know,

01:01:14it's really about serenity going through the battle.

01:01:18I mean, the battle's there and it's huge and it's awesome.

01:01:20It's totally awesome.

01:01:21It's the biggest thing you've ever seen.

01:01:22But it's really about serenity going through it.

01:01:25So, Serenity goes through it and then it, there's, at the end, it kind of, Serenity kind of gets like

01:01:30trapped, has to go back in and Wash has to like do some tricks, make him look like a really

01:01:34good flyer.

01:01:35And then he has to get through, just get through, really big battle, but it's really about serenity getting through.

01:01:38And he can say that and I can say, okay, I like telling the stories.

01:01:43I loved telling those stories.

01:01:44I loved my character.

01:01:45I loved getting the dialogue, the dry jokes.

01:01:48I love it.

01:01:49I love it.

01:01:49I want to be as funny as Malcolm Reynolds or at least as funny as Alan Tudyk.

01:01:54Right.

01:01:55And Firefly was my only way in to either of those.

01:01:58I mean, Joss is all about the moments.

01:02:00It doesn't talk down to you as a television show.

01:02:03It pulls you in, that first battle scene where they're there and they're, you know, they're fighting and they're trying

01:02:09their hardest, you know?

01:02:11And you just feel like that sometimes, you know?

01:02:13You just feel like you're trying your hardest and there's nothing you can do.

01:02:15The last episode, I believe, of Objects in Space, was just incredibly compelling.

01:02:20And so I've watched that since like four times.

01:02:23I just couldn't mail the DVD back to Netflix.

01:02:25Each person on the ship has a reason for being there and everybody can find somebody that they can identify

01:02:32with.

01:02:33I think I'd have to most identify with Wash just because it's just so familiar to me just seeing him

01:02:38behind that wheel.

01:02:39I'd be in a wheelchair and I drive a wheelchair-equipped van and I look a lot like that with

01:02:44my steering thing.

01:02:46I tend to wear Hawaiian shirts from time to time.

01:02:48So yeah, Wash and I look a lot like that.

01:02:50And I'm an actual aircraft mechanic and so I really relate with Kaylee.

01:02:56I would have to say my favorite character would definitely, definitely be Summer's character.

01:03:01I identify with Zoe, I would say, not because I was in a war or that I kick ass or

01:03:08anything, but she's been through a lot and she, you know, it shows, you know,

01:03:15because she's kind of hard on the outside and kicks ass, but she also has that side that Wash brings

01:03:21out in her.

01:03:23I guess I would say I identify with Zoe and Wash together.

01:03:27Firefly is what brought us together and thank you, Joss. I love you so much.

01:03:32I met my boyfriend through Firefly.

01:03:36Also, like, he was friends with Lindsey and we've been together for like a year now.

01:03:41So this is our anniversary when we met and stuff. So it brought us together and I think he's going

01:03:45to be the one.

01:03:46For me, I love to watch any of Joss' shows with my kids because there are always consequences.

01:03:52When he's returning the medicine and the sheriff, you know, thinks that, you know, that a man has a choice

01:03:58and the captain says, I don't believe he does.

01:04:00And it's like, oh, how sweet. You know, he doesn't have a choice. How cool.

01:04:04And then the next moment when he's talking to Crow and explaining the situation to him and Crow's like, keep

01:04:11your money.

01:04:12And then he goes, darn, and he kicks him into the engine. And it was like, and you have such

01:04:16strong female characters, which is huge because I have a daughter.

01:04:19And even for my son, I want him to see these strong female characters that, you know, so he is

01:04:25only six years old, but he has it firmly in his mind that if he steps out of line with

01:04:29a woman, she's going to kick his ass.

01:04:30The thing that I really enjoyed about it is it takes such a gritty, organic look at space colonization.

01:04:36When they move the cattle in the cargo hold and they have to go back and clean up the mess,

01:04:41I mean, that's just really gritty.

01:04:43They did a great job with the meal packets and the nutritional supplements, and they really fleshed out this universe

01:04:49with some reality, and I really enjoyed that.

01:04:52Yeah, that humanness sort of makes it easier to connect to, and it makes it more fun to watch him

01:04:55doing the mundane stuff.

01:04:56Just, you know, the scenes playing cards and just sort of the banter in the kitchen or on the bridge.

01:05:01You really bond, and so, you know, as sort of we were saying outside that the cancellation is sort of

01:05:06our battle of serenity, and the movie...

01:05:09It really brought us together.

01:05:10Yeah, and the movie Serenity is like the ship Serenity, and so that's why, you know, we're all on board

01:05:16it.

01:05:16We're all, we've all, you know, we're ready to get on and try and keep flying because, you know, that's

01:05:22what we do.

01:05:23That's what we do.

01:05:25Although mixed feelings for me, because once, he said once I take him to the big screen, I don't really

01:05:30see them back on the little screen.

01:05:33And I really wanted to see him again on the TV show.

01:05:36More so than any actor or character in any of these shows or movies, Joss is the big star.

01:05:43Like, that's the one, he's the guy that everybody wants to meet, and he's just like incredibly, incredibly bright guy.

01:05:49I just think the writing is really, really intelligent, and I think the girls are hot on the show.

01:05:55And we have to say, despite all the cool family character stuff that made Firefly really good, the hot babes

01:06:01didn't hurt anything.

01:06:02Yeah, yeah.

01:06:02The whole thing between Anara and Mal, it was what was not said.

01:06:07They weren't saying what they were thinking, they were saying other than.

01:06:11Well, and the romance of being a man with a horse and a gun, and with this, it's a spaceship.

01:06:16It's just incredible, because you can go anywhere and still put your duster on and get on a horse when

01:06:22you get there.

01:06:23I love it.

01:06:23It's the stuff you really want to see.

01:06:25And so, when Wash died, I just rejected it. I just shut down.

01:06:31I couldn't even process the rest of the movie, because, you know, the movie died right in that moment.

01:06:35When Wash is taken from us, it's after everybody's said we are willing to lay down our lives.

01:06:40When people say we're willing to lay down our lives and nobody lays down their life, it means nothing.

01:06:44And when Alan is taken from us, it's bam, like that, and there's no time to kind of moan and

01:06:50have a ceremony and have like a last word or anything. It's immediate.

01:06:54When the film was over, I was extremely upset.

01:06:57I was just, I was so shocked, because I was so excited that we had gotten our film, and here

01:07:01it was.

01:07:02And then Joss goes off and kills one of the characters, and I'm like, what's the point of giving us

01:07:05the film if you're going to kill off the characters?

01:07:07Whenever we would watch it in theaters, I'd always reach down like I'm getting my popcorn at night, look over

01:07:12my shoulder to see the reaction.

01:07:14And people would, and freeze in disbelief, and things continue, and things are going like bullets.

01:07:20It keeps rolling and rolling, the film's going. It's not waiting for you to have your moment to go, oh

01:07:25my god, I think he's dead.

01:07:27They're completely taken aback, and it's an audible gasp.

01:07:30After they've left Serenity, when it crashes, and Wash has... I can't say it!

01:07:39After Wash has been impaled.

01:07:41Okay, um...

01:07:42I like how, how I die, I like how quick it is, um, and I guess I'm in denial that

01:07:47I'm not, that I'm out of it, you know?

01:07:50And I'm in denial that we've been robbed. Two wonderful characters.

01:08:02You know, when Joss says, I need this death because it makes the stakes real in the movie.

01:08:09Uh, I believe, you know, you trust him, that he knows what he's doing, talking about.

01:08:15And then in the movie, it works like that. He's right.

01:08:19So, when I watch it, it's sad, but he's right. It was great, and it really served a purpose for

01:08:24the movie.

01:08:24And I actually wrote Alan to take a letter, and it was just more for me just to get it

01:08:30all out, and cathartic experience.

01:08:33And I remember one part of it just talking about how I felt attacked.

01:08:38I felt like I was, you know, attacked by a reaver that ripped my heart out, stomped on it, spit

01:08:45on it.

01:08:46But, um, I was reaverized. And then in that moment, I'm like, so that's what Joss wanted to do.

01:08:51And it just clicked that, okay, it was on purpose. So, okay.

01:08:54At the end of the movie, I said, you know what? I'm gonna go find Joss, and I'm gonna tell

01:08:58him, I'm gonna slap him, you know?

01:09:00And then later on, I actually got to meet him in the VIP thing, and I said, you know, I

01:09:04told somebody that, you know, I'm gonna go find him, and I'm gonna slap him.

01:09:07And he was like, you know, he just looked at me. But I was like, I'm only kidding, but how

01:09:10could you do that?

01:09:11I like that I don't go on without me. And, look, I've got three bullets left, but I'll give him

01:09:16hell. You know, I don't have, like, a hold him off as long as I can moment. It's none of

01:09:21that.

01:09:22It's, ugh! That's, that's...

01:09:24So long, bastards.

01:09:25Yeah.

01:09:26See you in hell.

01:09:29Yeah.

01:09:30We are the underdog.

01:09:31Right.

01:09:31Yes.

01:09:32I love that.

01:09:33Wouldn't it be an amazing story if, like, we're a canceled television show, everybody thinks we're gone.

01:09:38All of a sudden, this fan base just keeps growing and growing and growing. And then we make a movie.

01:09:42And then we're a huge movie, and we make sequel after sequel, and it just grows into something.

01:09:47And, but it maintains, you know, what it's about, and it's standard, and which I'm sure it would. That would

01:09:53be amazing. What a great story to be able to tell.

01:09:56I mean, when a canceled show becomes a major motion picture. It's never happened before.

01:10:01I think the thing that really draws these particular kinds of fans to this particular material is, you know, fundamentally

01:10:14it's Joss.

01:10:15Like, the, the amount that people have done for this movie, um, whose only benefit is to be a part

01:10:22of it, um, is extremely moving. And, uh, because I, I, uh, I don't operate in a vacuum.

01:10:31Okay, I write alone. But apart from that, you know, I, I get so much. I feed off of them.

01:10:39Hopefully they feed off of the world. And then it just, it becomes something, like art, greater than the sum

01:10:46of its parts.

01:10:47So that somebody feels like when they're doing something, they're not just standing behind a booth, or working a website,

01:10:53or handing out a flyer, whatever it is they're doing, or going to see a screening, they're entering a world.

01:10:58And, um, I'm just privileged to be there too.

01:11:02I'm gonna see Serenity. I've gotten, at this point, to see it seven times.

01:11:08So that it makes lots of money. They're bringing Firefly back to me. With Mal and Book, and yay Kaylee,

01:11:18I'm gonna see Serenity.

01:11:24I'm gonna cheer when Mal says. I know this much, I aim to misbehave. His pants are tight, his men

01:11:37are wry. At Inara, he makes calf eyes. I'm gonna cheer when Mal says.

01:11:45And River, oh, I love River. I wish River were my sister. I'd fix her brain and keep her safe.

01:12:00Like Simon says, she's my maymay. And River, oh, I love River. I'm gonna see Serenity.

01:12:11Yeah, this rocks!

01:12:13Three times, so that it makes lots of money.

01:12:18Alas, my pets are not that type. Or something.

01:12:22Now they'll take our ticket stubs. I'm gonna see Serenity.

01:12:29It's a chain of go-get and beat you with until you know who's in command.

01:12:32You can't change that by getting all bendy.

01:12:36Lights on the console, like a little angel.

01:12:43We shall rule over all this land, and we shall call it...

01:12:48This land.

01:12:50I think we should call it your grave.

01:12:53Ah, curse your sudden benedictal betrayal.

01:12:56Mine is an evil bastard.

01:12:58Now tie! Rawr!

01:12:59Oh no god!

01:13:01Oh dear god!

01:13:11I'm gonna hang with Jade and Josh.

01:13:16Zoe and Hell, best of all with Joss.

01:13:21They couldn't take the sky from them. Our big damn heroes made a film.

01:13:51We didn't have my babies.

01:13:55If you're not a fan already, yeah, you're gonna be a fanatic after this.

01:13:59So go see the movie. It totally rocks. You guys rock.

01:14:02Joss Whedon rocks. And I'm gonna learn to breathe now.

01:14:07Firefly and Serenity may have been mere entertainment to some people,

01:14:11but for us, it has become so much more.

01:14:14We've all become part of Serenity's onboard family.

01:14:17This documentary is dedicated to the browncoats around the world

01:14:21whose lives have become interconnected and enriched by Joss Whedon

01:14:25and the cast and crew of Firefly and Serenity.

01:14:28We've done it. We've done the impossible.

01:14:31And that makes us all mighty.

01:14:36Trilogy, oh Trilogy, I want my Trilogy.

01:14:42Don't stop at one, don't stop at two.

01:14:45Go ram it, give me three.

01:14:47Trilogy, oh Trilogy, that's what I want to see.

01:14:50Someday I'll own a box set of that big damn Trilogy.

01:14:56They said we couldn't do it.

01:14:59They said our show should die.

01:15:00They took all of, they took all, and they cancelled our Firefly.

01:15:04One thing they didn't reckon in our fan psychology

01:15:07is browncoats carry greenbacks and we want our Trilogy.

01:15:12Trilogy, oh Trilogy, I want my Trilogy.

01:15:16Don't stop at one, don't stop at two.

01:15:18Go ram it, give me three.

01:15:20Trilogy, oh Trilogy, that's what I want to see.

01:15:23Someday I'll own a box set of that big damn Trilogy.

01:15:45Trilogy, oh Trilogy, I want my Trilogy.

01:15:49Don't stop at one, don't stop at two.

01:15:51Go ram it, give me three.

01:15:53Trilogy, oh Trilogy, that's what I want to see.

01:15:56Someday I'll own a box set of that big damn Trilogy.

01:16:03They say the best things in this verse always come in threes.

01:16:07Musketeers and Stooges, L-O-T-R DVDs.

01:16:10When a show's got Ships and Shepherds, The Alliance and Blue Sun.

01:16:14And Gina and Jewel and Marina and Summer.

01:16:19It's too pretty to stop at one.

01:16:22Trilogy, oh Trilogy, I want my Trilogy.

01:16:25Don't stop at one, don't stop at two.

01:16:27Go ram it, give me three.

01:16:29Trilogy, oh Trilogy, that's what I want to see.

01:16:32Someday I'll own a box set of that big damn Trilogy.

01:16:36Someday I'll own a box set of that big damn Trilogy.

01:16:41Trilogy.

01:17:15Kurt didn't call for the story of our big damn heroes

01:17:21But we needed to know what happens after Jupiter left

01:17:28We couldn't let them fall, so we banded together

01:17:35And no power universe can stop us now

01:17:43Browncoats have done the impossible

01:17:51Welcome to serenity

01:17:57Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand

01:18:04I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me

01:18:24We're gonna keep on flying, yeah

01:18:32We're gonna keep on flying, yeah

01:18:40Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand

01:18:48I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me

01:18:56Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't coming back

01:19:04Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me

01:19:14Got no place I can be, since I found serenity

01:19:22You can't take the sky from me

01:19:26Go!

01:19:27Go!

01:19:29Go!

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