00:00You are so good at creating tension and then sustaining intensity in your movies.
00:05But I'm curious because I edit a lot of video.
00:07And so do you ever have any trouble maintaining an objective perspective with like the tension
00:13and like building that?
00:14That's the hardest job.
00:16Yeah.
00:16You got to sort of be able to like step back and try to like look at things as if
00:22you've
00:22never seen them before, which of course is impossible because you've seen a million times.
00:26So you kind of, it's a weird kind of muscle that you practice of like, is this really
00:30working or not?
00:31So it's hard to know what level of intensity to get up to and when you lose the audience
00:38and when, you know, but I think it's just about when audiences are like kind of feeling and
00:45when they're not feeling they're asking questions, but the questions that they're asking are questions
00:50that the character is asking.
00:52So I think it's, it's following the truth of the character.
00:55And in this case, luckily we have a tour guide, Austin Butler playing Hank Thompson in Caught
01:00Stealing.
01:00And you are with Austin hopefully the whole time.
01:03So for me, I just, I knew I just had to string the pearls of his performance together so that
01:08the audience is just following along and kind of in his head.
01:11And then if I did that, whatever madness was going on around him, it would make sense.
01:16Did you ever get like numb to it?
01:18Or you have to kind of like pull in somebody else to be like, Hey.
01:21No, I mean, there'll be times when we'll, we'll, we'll call in a more seat, like a producer.
01:26Sometimes we'll just call in an assistant and be like, what do you think?
01:28Is this too much?
01:29Is this too little?
01:30Sure.
01:31I mean, you always want a little feedback and then you kind of, when they give the answer,
01:34you see how you feel.
01:36And then like on this movie, I was very open to test screening it because it's kind of inspired
01:41by Charlie Chaplin who used to tour with his movies just to see what was landing, what
01:46was working.
01:47And I definitely learned a lot from that in a film like this, which is interactive with
01:51an audience.
01:52This is meant to play with a live audience because you do get like a lot of, and laughs
01:58and things like that.
01:59And so that's kind of fun.
