00:00We had a very productive meeting, a very good meeting.
00:02I know you hear that all the time.
00:03So let me just say it was a really, really good meeting with the Gulf countries.
00:07They've shared with us some very concrete concerns, ideas.
00:11And when I say concerns, I think the biggest concern is that they really just want to be informed every
00:15step along the way
00:16as we enter these negotiations at both the technical and political levels.
00:20And we want them to be involved.
00:22Fees and tolls are the same thing to me.
00:24If you're paying someone to go there, I don't care if you call it a fee or a toll or
00:28a donation.
00:30It's a toll.
00:30That's how we're going to define it.
00:32That's International Waterway.
00:33There isn't a nation on earth that supports having to pay money to go through the straits.
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