20 20 - Season 49 - Episode 19 Eng Sub

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00:00:02I'm handcuffed to the wall in this torture chamber.

00:00:09There's no windows.

00:00:12It feels eerily silent.

00:00:16This is like a horror film.

00:00:19Am I going to die chained to this wall?

00:00:24There's nowhere to run.

00:00:26There's nowhere to hide.

00:00:30I'm just stuck.

00:00:33I did not picture myself surviving.

00:00:37I want other women, whether they've been stalked or not believed, to see my story and think things can change.

00:00:58I was 20, 21.

00:01:01It was my last year of school.

00:01:03I was working a job.

00:01:06I had an internship.

00:01:08I was so busy.

00:01:10I felt like I had no time.

00:01:12I show up at my job on campus and work my shift, and I hear the door open.

00:01:19And I look, and Christopher's there with flowers in his hands.

00:01:25I just freeze, and my eyes get big, and on the inside, I'm flaming mad, is the angriest I've been,

00:01:33because I thought we were past all of this.

00:01:37He said, you know, I'm really sorry I heard a grandpa passed away.

00:01:41I say, like, I told you, Christopher, I don't want to see you.

00:01:45I don't want to talk to you.

00:01:46I don't want the flowers.

00:01:47Like, just leave me alone.

00:01:51I think he was surprised that I wasn't flattered.

00:01:58I'm, like, waiting outside in the cold at this bus stop, and he approaches me again, and he's like, I

00:02:06just don't understand, and I cut him off, and I said, I don't know what there is to not understand

00:02:14about this situation.

00:02:16And he's like, well, I just feel like there needs to be some closure.

00:02:20I want to figure this out with you, Christopher.

00:02:23I've told you multiple times by text I've blocked you.

00:02:27I don't want to see you.

00:02:29I don't want to talk to you.

00:02:30Don't talk to me.

00:02:31Don't text me.

00:02:32Don't show up where I am.

00:02:33Leave me alone.

00:02:36He thought that was his chance.

00:02:38You know, he's a little Romeo.

00:02:39Not at all.

00:02:40He was creepy.

00:02:42It's the first real experience where I feel like somebody knows what my wishes are very clearly and doesn't care.

00:02:55Christopher, to me, he was, like, a sad, lonely guy.

00:03:01I wouldn't say my first impression was very memorable.

00:03:04I mean, he was certainly older by six, eight years, maybe.

00:03:11He seemed very socially awkward.

00:03:14She was a little bit nice to him, and he took that and he spun it into something it wasn't

00:03:18and ran away with it.

00:03:41One day I caught him at frisbee practice, like, sitting in the stands by himself watching us.

00:03:49And it was a women's frisbee team.

00:03:53And then every week at practice, I would see him either up walking on the track or sitting in the

00:04:00stands.

00:04:02But he never approached me, never talked to me.

00:04:07But at that point, I was like, I just want to graduate.

00:04:10I just want to get through and do the things I'm going to do next.

00:04:20I felt like it was just something I could deal with on my own.

00:04:30Sam initially seems hesitant to accept the situation for what it is.

00:04:37It seems like she's in danger, and it's frustrating to watch her downplay that.

00:04:44This isn't a normal situation.

00:04:46This isn't a coincidence.

00:04:47Like, this is a hazard.

00:04:56I'm very excited to graduate.

00:04:59My mom and my grandma were there, so that was special.

00:05:06I wanted to take a little time off before I did graduate school.

00:05:11So I returned back to Elk Rapids in northern Michigan.

00:05:17The Christopher chapter is behind me.

00:05:22Kind of nice to just catch up with Pat and Robin and some of our other friends.

00:05:28I met Samantha on the soccer team.

00:05:32She was a senior when I was a freshman in high school.

00:05:36It doesn't matter your age or your lifestyle.

00:05:41Sam will give everybody a chance.

00:05:47We lived in this apartment right downtown, across from the local pub, above the Chinese restaurant.

00:05:54Our door was always unlocked, and it was fun.

00:05:58It was cute.

00:06:05Christopher messaged me a few times, like, you know, wanting to come up to Elk Rapids or meet with me.

00:06:11And when I show Carissa, you know, we just kind of laugh and just kind of brush the messages off.

00:06:18He became a running joke, just being this guy who doesn't get it and, you know, get a life.

00:06:24There wasn't room for a villain.

00:06:25It didn't fit in the plot of this story I had written about our situation in paradise.

00:06:37I wanted to take a year or so off and kind of explore my faith a bit more.

00:06:42There was a ministry internship that really caught my eye, and I applied and was accepted.

00:06:48I was located in Kansas City.

00:06:50I was very excited.

00:06:56I've known Sam about 25 years.

00:06:59My youngest daughter is her same age, so they were in school together.

00:07:04You know, Sam doesn't have an active dad in her life.

00:07:06And so I did a lot of the dad stuff, you know, provided rides, tried to be as supportive as

00:07:12I could.

00:07:14Two days before I left to go to Kansas City, Craig and I are running errands together.

00:07:25We had noticed there was a red motorcycle following us.

00:07:35My heart just sank.

00:07:36I knew it was him.

00:07:40How did he find us?

00:07:41Like, I'm not even in my own car.

00:07:44How did he know where we were?

00:07:49So I pull into the high school parking lot.

00:07:51He gets off his motorcycle.

00:07:52I'm going to go confront him.

00:07:54Sam says, nope, I'll do it.

00:07:56I get out of the car, and I say, Christopher, what are you doing here?

00:08:00Like, why are you in my town?

00:08:02He's like, well, I applied for the same internship you did, and I was accepted.

00:08:08Do you think you could give me a ride out there?

00:08:14I am just stunned and deflated.

00:08:20Like, the thing I had been looking so forward to for so long feels like it's ruined.

00:08:25And I tell Craig what Christopher says.

00:08:31Craig says, this is a problem.

00:08:34I'm a solver.

00:08:34So it's like, all right, we're going to stop this.

00:08:39Sam's over at our house.

00:08:40We're sitting down at the table, talking about what happened during the day.

00:08:45Craig's son comes home and says, Sam, there was somebody looking for you.

00:08:50And I said, who was it?

00:08:53And he's like, well, I didn't recognize him.

00:08:55Was he, like, bald and short and redheaded?

00:09:00Sam shows my son, Josh, a picture of Christopher, and Josh realizes he's seen him coming out of Sam's apartment.

00:09:07And that's really when it starts to get even more serious.

00:09:11I realized the gravity of how terrifying that was, that he was literally coming out of our apartment.

00:09:19I felt, like, actually scared and threatened, that he would drive two hours and find where I lived.

00:09:32This man is not just, like, obsessed with you.

00:09:37He's dangerous.

00:09:45Craig says, I think we need to consider a restraining order or a personal protection order, a PPO.

00:09:54I was like, oh my gosh, like, a PPO, a restraining order?

00:09:58Like, Christopher?

00:10:00Like, it just felt so surreal.

00:10:04So we urge her, sit down right now and write down all the things he's done and all the places

00:10:10he's showed up.

00:10:12It's now not just a school issue.

00:10:14It's an all-year-round issue.

00:10:20I thought through the past two or three years and wrote down the list of interactions with Christopher.

00:10:31I met Christopher in 2011.

00:10:36He had joined the same Christian group.

00:10:41I want to be welcoming and kind, so I saw him at different events the group was doing.

00:10:47He friended me on Facebook one day.

00:10:52At first, I think he's just lonely for some reason, finds me an approachable person to talk to.

00:11:02And then, at some point, it kind of changes.

00:11:06He's asking me out on a date if I'm free between classes, have some time for lunch.

00:11:12And so I'm just kind of saying no and letting him down easy and thinking he must get the message.

00:11:17But he doesn't get it.

00:11:37Before my birthday, he approaches me.

00:11:40He says, hey, I know your birthday is coming up.

00:11:43I was wondering, would you want to go see a Red Wings game?

00:11:45I got us tickets.

00:11:50I am just kind of speechless in a bad way.

00:11:53I tell him I'm not interested in going to a Red Wings game with you.

00:12:00It's not like there's anything wrong with you, Christopher.

00:12:02I just don't have any romantic interest in you.

00:12:12He puts a few red roses under my windshield wiper, more flowers, like at my doorstep, with a weird love

00:12:20note.

00:12:21I said, I think you need to kind of back off and to leave me alone.

00:12:27But he won't stop.

00:12:31He was following me to my work, following me in my internship there at Frisbee practice.

00:12:42It was the first time I had really laid out each interaction with him in such a way that once

00:12:50they're put all together, I'm like, this guy's stalking me.

00:13:03I received Samantha's petition requesting a personal protection order against Christopher.

00:13:11I have 24 hours in which to review it and decide whether it should be granted or deny it.

00:13:23I've never seen a stalking case as severe as this.

00:13:28He was obsessed.

00:13:30If you looked up stalker in a dictionary, there'd be a picture of Christopher.

00:13:36So I granted the personal protection order for six years.

00:13:40At the time, this was the longest personal protection order I'd ever issued.

00:13:46I get a hold of the director of the prayer ministry in Kansas City and explain to him,

00:13:51hey, there's a restraining order on Christopher.

00:13:54Can you take care of it?

00:13:56He calls him and says, we're revoking this.

00:13:59You can't come out here.

00:14:01It was a relief.

00:14:03It was over.

00:14:04And I could just pack my car and drive off into the sunset.

00:14:13After the PPO is granted, life goes back to normal and it's like he never existed.

00:14:23I went to graduate school and I trained as a private practice therapist.

00:14:29I had friends that were, like, interested in what I was doing.

00:14:34So I write this blog and there's a woman named Sarah Mott that comments.

00:14:40And she just said, well, I just stumbled across your blog.

00:14:45And I was like, oh, this is kind of cool.

00:15:02I moved back to Michigan because I really missed, I missed home.

00:15:08A lot had changed.

00:15:10My mom and my grandma passed away.

00:15:18It was really tough for me.

00:15:21I think it shook a lot of kind of my identity.

00:15:29I buy a house and I dug into painting and house projects.

00:15:38I joined this, like, adult recreational soccer league.

00:15:44This league is a true social gathering.

00:15:48Sam's good.

00:15:49She's a skilled player.

00:15:51She's very confident with the ball and knows what she's doing.

00:15:58I'm arriving to one of my soccer games and I see Christopher.

00:16:11I just stopped dead in my tracks.

00:16:15It looks like he's lost a lot of weight.

00:16:17Like, what is he even doing here?

00:16:20I was kind of shaken up the whole game just seeing him again.

00:16:24He didn't acknowledge me or speak to me.

00:16:29Like, what, am I in danger?

00:16:36I went back through my files and found the PPO and saw it had expired.

00:16:42There's something wrong with this guy.

00:16:43This guy's not here to play soccer.

00:16:45He's here to watch Sam.

00:16:48And when did he start doing that?

00:16:49He started as soon as his restraining order lapsed.

00:16:57I do worry that he maybe is coming after me in a vengeful way,

00:17:03wanting to hurt me for denying him all those years ago.

00:17:10When Sam first met Christopher,

00:17:14he was this kind of just soft,

00:17:18chubby,

00:17:19seemingly harmless,

00:17:21awkward guy.

00:17:23It seemed to me

00:17:25when I saw him ten years later,

00:17:27he had been training

00:17:29for something.

00:17:30That's how it felt.

00:17:47Christopher didn't scream soccer player.

00:17:49He was kind of awkward with his body,

00:17:51didn't really know how to play,

00:17:53didn't know how to move his legs and feet correctly.

00:17:59I approached this league's organizers

00:18:03and tell them about my fear

00:18:05that Christopher is following me again.

00:18:08And the league organizer says,

00:18:12I'm sorry,

00:18:13like I spoke with an attorney

00:18:14and there's nothing I can do

00:18:15to really kick him out.

00:18:18Technically,

00:18:18Christopher's not doing anything wrong.

00:18:23Then one day I am grocery shopping

00:18:27and I see him.

00:18:33I remember her telling me

00:18:35that she would go to the gym

00:18:36and she would see him there.

00:18:42He was everywhere.

00:19:11I'm playing soccer one day

00:19:13and he's playing against me

00:19:15and somebody passes the ball.

00:19:20He's faster than me

00:19:22and he beats me to the ball.

00:19:25Christopher was overly aggressive with Sam,

00:19:28just running into her,

00:19:30almost to like just put a body on her

00:19:33instead of go for the ball.

00:19:36It was not normal behavior.

00:19:40He turns around and looks at me

00:19:43and sticks out his tongue.

00:19:44He's like,

00:19:48and I just am infuriated.

00:19:55Like I felt like no matter where I played,

00:19:58he was just always in my area

00:20:01and I just kind of broke down.

00:20:03Like I subbed out of the game.

00:20:08I feared that I would never be free of him.

00:20:19Carissa comes into Elk Rapids

00:20:21and she stays at the same apartment

00:20:23we used to live in in college.

00:20:30We go up on the roof,

00:20:32we're drinking wine,

00:20:33we're chatting.

00:20:34Neither of us told each other,

00:20:35but we were both scanning the premises.

00:20:40And I happened to glance over

00:20:43next to this alleyway

00:20:44next to my apartment

00:20:45and I see,

00:20:47guess who?

00:20:48Christopher looked around

00:20:50when he was walking down the street a lot,

00:20:52like he was looking for me.

00:20:54And at that point in me,

00:20:56like a switch flipped

00:20:58and I got up,

00:21:01I ran downstairs

00:21:02and I just scream.

00:21:05I've never screamed.

00:21:06I said,

00:21:06Christopher,

00:21:07what are you doing?

00:21:09What are you doing in Elk Rapids?

00:21:12He said,

00:21:13well,

00:21:13I can't go home

00:21:15because I'm drunk.

00:21:16I'm like,

00:21:17you're not even drunk.

00:21:18Why are you following Sam?

00:21:22And he said,

00:21:24I haven't talked to Sam.

00:21:26I haven't said a word to Sam

00:21:27in eight years.

00:21:31I said,

00:21:31then why are you following her?

00:21:34And he said,

00:21:34I'm not following you.

00:21:36I said,

00:21:37well,

00:21:37you're everywhere

00:21:38and it's weird.

00:21:39So stop.

00:21:40And if I see you again,

00:21:41I'm going to call the police.

00:21:43I was terrified.

00:21:45I called my family.

00:21:47I called all of Sam's friends.

00:21:49I said,

00:21:50I'm really concerned about this.

00:21:55The more Sam sees Chris out in public,

00:21:57the more she gets concerned.

00:22:02She is a little more on edge.

00:22:06She's more irritable.

00:22:10People were concerned for Sam at this point.

00:22:13You have to get on the PPO.

00:22:15We will all write reports.

00:22:16There's no way

00:22:17that they can deny this evidence.

00:22:20It's frustrating for me.

00:22:21I had the gut feeling

00:22:22that I did not have enough evidence.

00:22:26We all thought

00:22:27that Christopher was a psychopath.

00:22:32Robin had suggested,

00:22:34you know,

00:22:35do you have any protection in your home?

00:22:38Like,

00:22:38do you have a firearm?

00:22:41Like,

00:22:41what's to prevent him

00:22:42from potentially trying to break in your home?

00:22:46And I said,

00:22:47well,

00:22:48like,

00:22:48all my windows and doors are locked.

00:22:50My friend had gotten me a ring camera.

00:22:54I kept,

00:22:56like,

00:22:56a really sharp hatchet.

00:22:58Like,

00:22:59it was,

00:22:59like,

00:22:59sharp to the touch like a knife

00:23:01right under my mattress.

00:23:03I felt better having a weapon.

00:23:05It's an easy access thing

00:23:08if something goes bump in the night.

00:23:20Pat

00:23:21and a friend

00:23:22had come up

00:23:23to stay with me

00:23:24and hang out

00:23:25for the long holiday weekend.

00:23:29We went to a bar.

00:23:31The first conversation we had

00:23:33was with Sam

00:23:35telling us how

00:23:36Chris followed her

00:23:37the other night

00:23:38and Carissa,

00:23:40classic Carissa,

00:23:41she goes off on this guy.

00:23:4330 seconds later,

00:23:45who walks in?

00:23:46Chris walks in.

00:23:50We all sink our heads.

00:23:52Holy hell,

00:23:53this guy's,

00:23:54this guy's tracking her.

00:23:58I see Christopher

00:23:59sitting by himself

00:24:01with his phone out

00:24:02directly behind me.

00:24:05There's just no way

00:24:07how is he here also

00:24:08and I'm scared.

00:24:10And I say,

00:24:12hey,

00:24:12can we leave?

00:24:14I gotta make this stop.

00:24:17As soon as I got next to him,

00:24:19you could almost like

00:24:20see him tense up.

00:24:22I remember saying his name.

00:24:24I said,

00:24:24Chris,

00:24:25I know you're following Sam.

00:24:27I know what you're doing.

00:24:28I know you're stalking her.

00:24:32Once we got back from the bar,

00:24:33we knew who he was tracking her.

00:24:36That was the first time

00:24:37we really

00:24:39kind of brainstormed,

00:24:40like how could Christopher

00:24:41possibly

00:24:43keep showing up

00:24:44at the same places?

00:24:46Like,

00:24:47is he driving by her house?

00:24:53I cleaned out

00:24:54the inside of my car.

00:24:56I looked around

00:24:57by my windshield

00:24:59and like my hatch.

00:25:02Like,

00:25:02I'm not,

00:25:03I'm not a mechanic.

00:25:04I don't know.

00:25:05What does a tracker

00:25:06even look like?

00:25:08We kept digging

00:25:09until our

00:25:10flashlights

00:25:11died

00:25:12and

00:25:12until our shirts

00:25:13were dirty.

00:25:16Unfortunately,

00:25:17I didn't find it.

00:25:21I decided

00:25:22I needed to

00:25:23try to get a PPO

00:25:25and I needed to

00:25:26try to get proof

00:25:28because I

00:25:28didn't think

00:25:29I had enough evidence

00:25:30to really

00:25:31get another

00:25:32restraining order.

00:25:34She

00:25:35felt confident

00:25:36that she

00:25:37didn't have enough evidence

00:25:38for a PPO

00:25:39when we felt

00:25:40certain that she did.

00:25:42We were all

00:25:43scared

00:25:44and feeling

00:25:44very urgent

00:25:45like,

00:25:46Sam,

00:25:46we need you

00:25:47to do this.

00:25:48Something has to be done.

00:25:49This guy's a weirdo.

00:25:52I got in touch

00:25:53with Devin

00:25:53who is an assistant

00:25:55prosecutor

00:25:55and said,

00:25:57can you help me

00:25:58with a PPO?

00:25:59Christopher

00:26:00had smartened up.

00:26:02He never tried

00:26:03to even talk

00:26:04to me

00:26:04or get in touch

00:26:05with me.

00:26:06So I feel like

00:26:07it's going to be

00:26:07tough to prove.

00:26:10And she's like,

00:26:11I don't know,

00:26:12I think we should try.

00:26:18I would be scared

00:26:19if I was Sam.

00:26:20I didn't want

00:26:21to freak her out,

00:26:22but I wanted her

00:26:24to start

00:26:25taking steps

00:26:26to protect herself.

00:26:28I filled out

00:26:29the paperwork.

00:26:30I actually met

00:26:31Devin

00:26:32at the courthouse

00:26:34and formally

00:26:36filed it.

00:26:38We also

00:26:39attached

00:26:40her previous

00:26:41personal protection order.

00:26:43I wanted

00:26:44it to be shown

00:26:46that there was

00:26:46a six-year

00:26:47personal protection order,

00:26:48which to me

00:26:49is unheard of

00:26:50for a first time.

00:26:51When I was

00:26:53at the office,

00:26:54I specifically

00:26:56asked the clerk,

00:26:56I said,

00:26:57if Christopher

00:26:59were to come

00:26:59in and inquire

00:27:00if there was

00:27:01any petitions

00:27:02filed against him,

00:27:03would you be able

00:27:04to answer that?

00:27:06And she said,

00:27:07no,

00:27:07that information

00:27:08is confidential.

00:27:13I felt hopeful.

00:27:16There's an assistant

00:27:17prosecutor

00:27:18helping me file this.

00:27:20Like,

00:27:20she must think

00:27:22I've got enough.

00:27:22What's the harm

00:27:23in granting it?

00:27:29On Friday,

00:27:31I checked the mailbox

00:27:32and I opened

00:27:35the letter

00:27:35and it says

00:27:37the petition was denied.

00:27:43Because it appeared

00:27:45myself and Christopher

00:27:47had a complicated

00:27:49relationship.

00:27:53I was very upset.

00:27:55I remember just

00:27:57cranking music

00:27:58in my car

00:27:58and driving out

00:27:59to where I was

00:28:00meeting my friend.

00:28:04I felt so defeated.

00:28:06It felt like

00:28:07a slap in the face.

00:28:12And then,

00:28:13what does he do?

00:28:14He goes to Menards,

00:28:15he starts building

00:28:16in his bunker.

00:28:23That's when

00:28:23he took action.

00:28:26I was shocked

00:28:27and worried for Sam

00:28:29when the PPO was denied.

00:28:30What you're essentially

00:28:31telling her

00:28:32is you don't believe her.

00:28:36The people

00:28:37that were supposed

00:28:37to protect her

00:28:38have failed her.

00:28:40if Sam

00:28:42is going to get

00:28:43stalked

00:28:43and not get

00:28:44protected,

00:28:46then who will?

00:28:49I think it's

00:28:50definitely

00:28:51a comment

00:28:52on society

00:28:53about

00:28:53how hard women

00:28:55have to fight

00:28:55to be believed,

00:28:57how easy

00:28:59it is

00:29:00to just look

00:29:01the other way.

00:29:05he knew

00:29:06where she lived.

00:29:10I don't know

00:29:11what his intent is.

00:29:12If he wants

00:29:13to hurt me,

00:29:14it's just

00:29:15this ticking

00:29:16time bomb

00:29:17that I couldn't

00:29:18do anything about.

00:29:40This really becomes

00:29:42kind of a fight

00:29:43for my life.

00:30:03It was a Friday

00:30:04morning.

00:30:06I heard

00:30:07a noise.

00:30:08I heard

00:30:08like the squeak

00:30:09of a floorboard.

00:30:11It sounded like

00:30:12it was just

00:30:12outside my bedroom

00:30:13door.

00:30:16I could see

00:30:18some sort

00:30:19of shadow

00:30:19that wasn't

00:30:20normally there.

00:30:23And my heart

00:30:24starts racing.

00:30:27My mind

00:30:28shoots to

00:30:29the hatchet

00:30:30I kept

00:30:31under my mattress.

00:30:33In that second,

00:30:35someone storms

00:30:36into my room

00:30:37and jumps

00:30:38on me

00:30:39while I'm in bed.

00:30:41And I begin

00:30:41screaming,

00:30:42hoping that

00:30:43someone would

00:30:43hear me.

00:30:45And I feel

00:30:47his hands

00:30:48around my throat.

00:30:49and he

00:30:50begins to choke

00:30:52me.

00:30:54And it gets

00:30:55tougher to breathe.

00:30:57And I just think

00:30:58he's going to kill me.

00:31:02I recognize

00:31:03immediately

00:31:06that it's Christopher.

00:31:10He picks me up.

00:31:13We approach my car.

00:31:14he puts me

00:31:16in the back seat.

00:31:18I'm being kidnapped

00:31:19in my own vehicle.

00:31:21Once we leave

00:31:22my house,

00:31:23the likelihood

00:31:24of me surviving

00:31:25this experience

00:31:26goes down

00:31:27drastically.

00:31:29This really becomes

00:31:32kind of a fight

00:31:33for my life.

00:31:39He stops the car

00:31:41and asks me

00:31:42to lean forward

00:31:43and he ties

00:31:44a bandana

00:31:44around my eyes

00:31:45so I can't

00:31:45see anymore.

00:31:47But I know

00:31:47the neighborhood

00:31:48and I begin

00:31:50counting the turns.

00:32:06So I see

00:32:07like a garage

00:32:07door.

00:32:22Christopher gets out

00:32:23of the car

00:32:24and he picks

00:32:24me up again

00:32:25and we kind

00:32:27of take a couple

00:32:29steps and then

00:32:29we crouch

00:32:32and I can smell

00:32:33lumber.

00:32:37Then I can hear

00:32:38that I'm like

00:32:39in a more

00:32:40enclosed space

00:32:41and then we go

00:32:42through another

00:32:43threshold

00:32:44and then

00:32:46he sets me down

00:32:47on this soft surface

00:32:48and takes off

00:32:49my bandana.

00:32:54I look around

00:32:55and I'm in

00:32:55this tiny

00:32:58seven by seven

00:32:59little room.

00:33:03I see like

00:33:04these soundproof

00:33:05patches on the

00:33:06wall.

00:33:09So no one's

00:33:11going to hear

00:33:11me scream

00:33:14and I glance

00:33:15over and I see

00:33:16metal rings

00:33:17on the walls

00:33:18and I just

00:33:20think

00:33:20oh my god.

00:33:22This is like

00:33:24a horror film.

00:33:29and I say

00:33:31you want to

00:33:32talk?

00:33:32Let's talk.

00:33:34He says

00:33:35well I didn't

00:33:37just bring you

00:33:38here to talk

00:33:40for the day.

00:33:41You're actually

00:33:42going to be here

00:33:42for two weeks.

00:33:44He says I've

00:33:45taken vacation

00:33:46and we're

00:33:48going to spend

00:33:48some time

00:33:48together.

00:33:51And I

00:33:52try to hold

00:33:53back tears

00:33:56and I say

00:33:59okay what are

00:34:00we going

00:34:00to do for

00:34:01two weeks

00:34:02Christopher?

00:34:04He says

00:34:05well I have

00:34:05a deck

00:34:05of cards.

00:34:08And I say

00:34:09well people

00:34:09are going to

00:34:10know I'm

00:34:10missing.

00:34:12And he says

00:34:13well I think

00:34:13I'll keep

00:34:14them occupied.

00:34:16I've planned

00:34:17to take

00:34:18your paddleboard

00:34:19and leave

00:34:20it out

00:34:21at Lake

00:34:21Michigan

00:34:22and let

00:34:23people think

00:34:24maybe you

00:34:25drowned

00:34:26and that

00:34:26will keep

00:34:27them busy.

00:34:35I maybe

00:34:35have the

00:34:36day

00:34:36before people

00:34:37start to

00:34:39raise eyebrows

00:34:39about where

00:34:40I am.

00:34:41Is he

00:34:41going to panic?

00:34:42Are things

00:34:43going to get

00:34:43tense?

00:34:44Is he

00:34:44going to

00:34:44kill me?

00:34:45I say

00:34:46to him

00:34:46let's talk.

00:34:47I'm a social

00:34:48worker.

00:34:48I can talk.

00:34:51He asks

00:34:52me specific

00:34:53things like

00:34:54who was I

00:34:54with when

00:34:55we went

00:34:55camping

00:34:57on this

00:34:57date?

00:35:04What was

00:35:05I doing

00:35:06in Glen Lake

00:35:06two Thursdays

00:35:08ago?

00:35:11I answer

00:35:12him truthfully

00:35:15I think

00:35:16he's testing

00:35:16me because

00:35:17he already

00:35:18seems to

00:35:19know the

00:35:19answer.

00:35:21He reveals

00:35:22with some

00:35:22pride that

00:35:23he has a

00:35:24tracker on

00:35:24my car.

00:35:27He showed

00:35:28me the

00:35:28app on his

00:35:29phone that

00:35:29he used

00:35:30and you

00:35:30know anytime

00:35:31you leave

00:35:32your little

00:35:33neighborhood

00:35:33it alerts

00:35:34me and I

00:35:35see where

00:35:35you're going.

00:35:38and he

00:35:40revealed he

00:35:40also had

00:35:42trackers on

00:35:43my roommate's

00:35:44car and

00:35:45my friend's

00:35:45car.

00:35:48I asked

00:35:49him how

00:35:50long he'd

00:35:50been doing

00:35:50that and he

00:35:51said maybe

00:35:52a year.

00:35:56Christopher is

00:35:57a psychopath.

00:35:59he is

00:36:01someone that

00:36:02I can't

00:36:03use normal

00:36:03logic with.

00:36:06I decide

00:36:07to ask

00:36:07him more

00:36:08about this

00:36:09space that

00:36:10he has

00:36:10me in.

00:36:11Did you

00:36:12build this?

00:36:13And he

00:36:14says yes.

00:36:14He built

00:36:15it himself

00:36:15and he

00:36:16kind of

00:36:16takes pride

00:36:17in building

00:36:19this structure.

00:36:21He tells

00:36:22me I

00:36:23kind of

00:36:24got this

00:36:24idea for

00:36:25this bunker

00:36:26from watching

00:36:27that show

00:36:27the TV

00:36:28show You.

00:36:33The show

00:36:35You is

00:36:36about a

00:36:37good looking

00:36:38young man

00:36:38who becomes

00:36:40obsessed with

00:36:41a woman

00:36:42and he

00:36:43essentially

00:36:43kidnaps

00:36:45her and

00:36:46keeps her

00:36:47in this

00:36:48glass room

00:36:49which Christopher

00:36:50says wasn't

00:36:51logistically

00:36:51possible.

00:36:53He had

00:36:53looked into

00:36:54it.

00:36:54This main

00:36:55character

00:36:56is this

00:36:57psychopath.

00:36:58He ends

00:36:59up murdering

00:37:00the woman

00:37:00and you've

00:37:01related to

00:37:01this person.

00:37:03I need

00:37:04to try

00:37:05to convince

00:37:06him that

00:37:07we can

00:37:07be friends.

00:37:17That afternoon

00:37:18he pulled

00:37:21a piece of

00:37:21clothing out

00:37:23out of

00:37:23this tub

00:37:24and he

00:37:25says

00:37:26there's

00:37:26something

00:37:26I've

00:37:27really

00:37:27wanted

00:37:27to

00:37:27give

00:37:28you

00:37:28and

00:37:29maybe

00:37:29it's

00:37:30kind

00:37:30of

00:37:30silly

00:37:30but

00:37:31I've kept

00:37:32it all this

00:37:32time.

00:37:33He pulls out

00:37:35this

00:37:35Red Wings jersey

00:37:37and on the back

00:37:39it has my last

00:37:40name on it.

00:37:42He says

00:37:43I actually

00:37:44got this

00:37:44for you

00:37:45when I bought

00:37:47those Red Wing tickets

00:37:48all that time

00:37:49ago.

00:37:54Christopher

00:37:55initially bought

00:37:55those tickets

00:37:56in college for my

00:37:57birthday and I told

00:37:59him I never wanted

00:38:00to go to a Red Wings

00:38:01hockey game with

00:38:02him.

00:38:04And I said to him

00:38:06you know

00:38:07maybe after

00:38:08all of this

00:38:09maybe we can

00:38:10go see a Red Wings

00:38:11game sometime.

00:38:12You know

00:38:13maybe we can

00:38:13be friends.

00:38:15I think

00:38:16okay

00:38:17I have this

00:38:18foot in the door.

00:38:22He says

00:38:23I'm really sorry

00:38:24I did that

00:38:25to you this morning.

00:38:26I just had to

00:38:27talk to you

00:38:28and I thought

00:38:28you would never

00:38:29talk to me

00:38:31unless I did

00:38:32something like this.

00:38:38He has this

00:38:39moment where

00:38:40he says

00:38:42that he's

00:38:43scared of

00:38:44prison

00:38:45and he says

00:38:46I would never

00:38:46survive in

00:38:47prison.

00:38:48I think I could

00:38:49get in a lot

00:38:50of trouble

00:38:50for what I

00:38:50did today.

00:38:53He's panicked.

00:38:55He realizes

00:38:55what he's done.

00:38:57Christopher

00:38:57if you

00:38:58will let me

00:38:59go tonight

00:39:01I promise

00:39:02I will not

00:39:03go to the

00:39:05police.

00:39:06and he says

00:39:08I don't

00:39:09I don't

00:39:09believe you.

00:39:10And he says

00:39:13I think

00:39:14what would

00:39:14really

00:39:17convince me

00:39:19that you

00:39:19want to be

00:39:21my friend

00:39:21and that you're

00:39:22willing to

00:39:22keep that

00:39:23secret

00:39:25is if you

00:39:26sleep with

00:39:26me.

00:39:31and I just

00:39:32think there's

00:39:32there's no

00:39:33way

00:39:33there's no

00:39:35way

00:39:39and I just

00:39:40say

00:39:41Christopher

00:39:42you know

00:39:42I don't

00:39:43like you

00:39:43like that

00:39:44like I'm

00:39:44seeing

00:39:44somebody

00:39:45I like

00:39:45don't

00:39:47I don't

00:39:48want to

00:39:49sleep with

00:39:53you

00:39:53he says

00:39:55I see

00:39:56well I

00:39:56think that's

00:39:57the only

00:39:57way

00:39:58I can

00:39:59really

00:40:00trust you

00:40:01with this

00:40:05you know

00:40:05if I say

00:40:06no

00:40:06is he

00:40:06going to

00:40:06rape me

00:40:07anyway

00:40:09if he

00:40:10said on

00:40:10that

00:40:11what's

00:40:11to stop

00:40:11him

00:40:12he could

00:40:12tie me

00:40:12up

00:40:13that sounds

00:40:14a lot

00:40:15worse to

00:40:16me

00:40:18I said

00:40:19you promised

00:40:20me Christopher

00:40:21that if I

00:40:23sleep with

00:40:23you you

00:40:25will let

00:40:25me out

00:40:25tonight

00:40:27he said

00:40:28I will

00:40:29and I

00:40:30said

00:40:31shake me

00:40:32on it

00:40:33and he

00:40:34looked me

00:40:35in the

00:40:35eyes and

00:40:35shook my

00:40:36hand

00:40:36and I

00:40:38knew enough

00:40:39about

00:40:39Christopher

00:40:40to know

00:40:41that his

00:40:42integrity

00:40:42is important

00:40:43to him

00:40:44and

00:40:47I was

00:40:48banking

00:40:48on that

00:40:52he leaned

00:40:53in and

00:40:54kissed me

00:40:54and

00:40:56I just

00:40:57felt myself

00:40:58go dead

00:40:58inside

00:41:02and I

00:41:03just broke

00:41:03down and I

00:41:04cried

00:41:04and I

00:41:05shook

00:41:05and

00:41:07he asked

00:41:08me he was

00:41:08like are

00:41:09you okay

00:41:14I didn't

00:41:14want him

00:41:15to know

00:41:16that I

00:41:16was reacting

00:41:17to the

00:41:17experience

00:41:18and that I

00:41:19was disgusted

00:41:19by him

00:41:20and terrified

00:41:25when everything

00:41:26was finished

00:41:28he said

00:41:30that's all

00:41:31I've wanted

00:41:32for so long

00:41:33you cannot

00:41:34imagine how

00:41:35long I've

00:41:36thought of

00:41:36that moment

00:41:38you're the

00:41:39person I'm

00:41:39supposed to

00:41:40marry

00:41:42my stomach

00:41:43turns even

00:41:44just thinking

00:41:44about that

00:41:45like

00:41:48I said

00:41:48okay Christopher

00:41:49like I've

00:41:51held up my

00:41:51end of the

00:41:52bargain

00:41:53you need

00:41:54to let me

00:41:54go

00:41:57and

00:41:57he said

00:41:59okay I'll

00:42:00take you

00:42:01back to

00:42:01your car

00:42:02let's go

00:42:07he opened

00:42:08up the

00:42:09doors

00:42:09and I

00:42:10realized

00:42:10we're like

00:42:10at the

00:42:11back of

00:42:11this

00:42:12storage

00:42:13unit

00:42:14complex

00:42:15like

00:42:15there's

00:42:16woods

00:42:16next to

00:42:17us

00:42:18it's

00:42:19dark

00:42:19and

00:42:19cold

00:42:20there's

00:42:20stars

00:42:22and

00:42:23part of

00:42:24me

00:42:24thinks

00:42:24I

00:42:26thought

00:42:26I

00:42:26would

00:42:26maybe

00:42:27never

00:42:27see

00:42:27the

00:42:27world

00:42:28again

00:42:42he

00:42:43pulled

00:42:43into

00:42:43the

00:42:43parking

00:42:44lot

00:42:44and

00:42:45sure

00:42:45enough

00:42:45there

00:42:45was

00:42:45my

00:42:46car

00:42:51and

00:42:52I

00:42:52was

00:42:52just

00:42:55so

00:42:55thankful

00:42:57I

00:42:59survived

00:42:59I did

00:43:00not picture

00:43:00myself

00:43:01surviving

00:43:02through that

00:43:03day

00:43:09I need

00:43:09to get

00:43:10to the

00:43:10hospital

00:43:12but

00:43:12but because

00:43:13Christopher's

00:43:13tracking

00:43:14my car

00:43:14I

00:43:15turned

00:43:15around

00:43:16and

00:43:16drove

00:43:16back

00:43:16home

00:43:20someone

00:43:20needs

00:43:20to drive

00:43:21me

00:43:21to the

00:43:21hospital

00:43:22and

00:43:23Melissa

00:43:23comes

00:43:23to my

00:43:24mind

00:43:24she's

00:43:25my

00:43:25neighbor

00:43:25so she's

00:43:26close

00:43:26she's

00:43:27someone I

00:43:28trust

00:43:28said

00:43:29called

00:43:30me

00:43:30and her

00:43:31voice

00:43:32was

00:43:32not her

00:43:33usual

00:43:34confident

00:43:35self

00:43:36I would

00:43:36say

00:43:36it was

00:43:36kind of

00:43:37emotional

00:43:38shaken

00:43:39up

00:43:45she

00:43:45said

00:43:46we have

00:43:47to hurry

00:43:47we have

00:43:48to get

00:43:48out of

00:43:48here

00:43:48right

00:43:48now

00:43:49and

00:43:50then

00:43:50I

00:43:50was

00:43:50like

00:43:51what

00:43:51in

00:43:51the

00:43:51hell

00:43:52is

00:43:52going

00:43:52on

00:43:56the

00:43:57drive

00:43:57to the

00:43:57hospital

00:43:58was

00:43:58only

00:43:5915

00:43:59minutes

00:44:00and

00:44:00I

00:44:01go up

00:44:01to

00:44:01the

00:44:01counter

00:44:01and

00:44:02I

00:44:02said

00:44:02I

00:44:03need

00:44:03a

00:44:03rape

00:44:04kit

00:44:04through

00:44:05this

00:44:05whole

00:44:05process

00:44:05my

00:44:06back

00:44:06is

00:44:06to

00:44:06the

00:44:06door

00:44:07and

00:44:07so

00:44:07I'm

00:44:07glancing

00:44:07over

00:44:08my

00:44:08shoulder

00:44:09thinking

00:44:10he's

00:44:10going

00:44:11to

00:44:11burst

00:44:11through

00:44:11this

00:44:11door

00:44:11any

00:44:12minute

00:44:20when

00:44:20I

00:44:21received

00:44:21the

00:44:21call

00:44:21it was

00:44:212.30

00:44:22in the

00:44:22morning

00:44:22and

00:44:23I

00:44:23was

00:44:24kind

00:44:24of

00:44:24half

00:44:24asleep

00:44:25when

00:44:25I

00:44:25was

00:44:25given

00:44:26the

00:44:26information

00:44:26by

00:44:26the

00:44:27supervisor

00:44:27but

00:44:27I

00:44:28did

00:44:28question

00:44:30whether

00:44:30or not

00:44:31this

00:44:31was

00:44:31actually

00:44:31valid

00:44:32I've

00:44:33been

00:44:33working

00:44:33as a

00:44:33police

00:44:33officer

00:44:34for

00:44:3419

00:44:34years

00:44:35and

00:44:35I've

00:44:35seen

00:44:35a

00:44:35lot

00:44:35of

00:44:35things

00:44:36and

00:44:38sometimes

00:44:39it's

00:44:39not

00:44:39always

00:44:39as

00:44:40it

00:44:40seems

00:44:40but

00:44:40sometimes

00:44:41it

00:44:41is

00:44:53hello

00:44:55I specialize

00:44:55in sex

00:44:56crimes

00:44:56and

00:44:57when I

00:44:58first

00:44:58walked in

00:44:58the room

00:44:59and met

00:44:59Sam

00:44:59before

00:45:00she even

00:45:01said a

00:45:01word

00:45:01when I

00:45:01looked

00:45:02at

00:45:02her

00:45:03I

00:45:04could

00:45:04just

00:45:04see

00:45:04the look

00:45:05in her

00:45:05eye

00:45:05I

00:45:05knew

00:45:05this

00:45:06happened

00:45:10my

00:45:10first

00:45:11thought

00:45:11is

00:45:13my

00:45:13own

00:45:13daughter

00:45:14I

00:45:14have

00:45:14a

00:45:1425

00:45:15year

00:45:15old

00:45:15daughter

00:45:15close

00:45:16in

00:45:16age

00:45:17to

00:45:17Sam

00:45:17and

00:45:19I

00:45:19have

00:45:20to

00:45:20do

00:45:20everything

00:45:20I

00:45:20can

00:45:21and

00:45:22it

00:45:22has

00:45:22to

00:45:22be

00:45:22done

00:45:23right

00:45:24is

00:45:24an

00:45:25actual

00:45:26storage

00:45:26unit

00:45:26it's

00:45:27a

00:45:27storage

00:45:27unit

00:45:28that

00:45:28he

00:45:28spent

00:45:29five

00:45:29grand

00:45:29at

00:45:30Menard's

00:45:30building

00:45:31it's

00:45:31got

00:45:33soundproof

00:45:34square

00:45:34you know

00:45:35those

00:45:35rigid

00:45:36soundproof

00:45:37square

00:45:37things

00:45:37on the

00:45:38walls

00:45:38on two

00:45:38of the

00:45:39sides

00:45:39and

00:45:40you said

00:45:40it was

00:45:41the units

00:45:42were

00:45:42V as

00:45:43in

00:45:43vector

00:45:43it's

00:45:44at

00:45:44the

00:45:44back

00:45:44of

00:45:44V6

00:45:45and

00:45:45V7

00:45:46I'm

00:45:46pretty

00:45:46sure

00:45:47they're

00:45:48next

00:45:48to each

00:45:50Sam

00:45:53was

00:45:53probably

00:45:54the easiest

00:45:54interview

00:45:55I've

00:45:55had

00:45:55I

00:45:56was

00:45:57just

00:45:57in awe

00:45:57of

00:45:58her

00:45:58the way

00:45:59she told

00:45:59her

00:45:59story

00:46:01the details

00:46:02that she

00:46:02gave

00:46:02me

00:46:04were so

00:46:05important

00:46:06he

00:46:07says he

00:46:07doesn't

00:46:08want to

00:46:08go to

00:46:08jail

00:46:08and

00:46:09he'd

00:46:09rather

00:46:09shoot

00:46:10him

00:46:10so

00:46:10he

00:46:11does

00:46:11he

00:46:11have

00:46:12weapons

00:46:12did

00:46:12he

00:46:12say

00:46:14he

00:46:14owns

00:46:14rifles

00:46:15and

00:46:15a

00:46:15crossbow

00:46:16I'm

00:46:16going to

00:46:16make

00:46:16a

00:46:16quick

00:46:17call

00:46:18we

00:46:18called

00:46:19in

00:46:19detectives

00:46:20to

00:46:21get

00:46:21information

00:46:22about

00:46:22this

00:46:22guy

00:46:23because

00:46:23we

00:46:23didn't

00:46:23know

00:46:24much

00:46:26we

00:46:26needed

00:46:27to

00:46:27find

00:46:28Christopher

00:46:28as

00:46:28soon

00:46:28as

00:46:29we

00:46:29could

00:46:29so

00:46:31we

00:46:31went

00:46:31right

00:46:32to

00:46:32the

00:46:33storage

00:46:33units

00:46:34we

00:46:35didn't

00:46:35know

00:46:35if

00:46:36he

00:46:36was

00:46:36hiding

00:46:36in

00:46:36the

00:46:36bunker

00:46:37we

00:46:37didn't

00:46:38know

00:46:38if

00:46:38there

00:46:38were

00:46:38booby

00:46:38traps

00:46:39or

00:46:39anything

00:46:39like

00:46:40that

00:46:42Christopher

00:46:43if

00:46:43you're

00:46:43inside

00:46:44let

00:46:44us

00:46:44know

00:46:44I'm

00:46:44going to

00:46:45have

00:46:45my

00:46:45dog

00:46:45come

00:46:45find

00:46:46you

00:46:46and

00:46:46he

00:46:46will

00:46:46bite

00:46:46you

00:46:47call

00:46:47out

00:46:47to

00:46:48us

00:46:48now

00:46:48if

00:46:48you're

00:46:48inside

00:47:17there's

00:47:18like

00:47:18an

00:47:19entrance

00:47:20little

00:47:20thing

00:47:21here

00:47:21and

00:47:21then

00:47:21another

00:47:21room

00:47:22here

00:47:26there's

00:47:27this

00:47:27box

00:47:28it's

00:47:28exactly

00:47:28how

00:47:29Sam

00:47:29described

00:47:30it

00:47:30to

00:47:30us

00:47:30and

00:47:30I'm

00:47:31like

00:47:31holy

00:47:31this

00:47:32thing's

00:47:33actually

00:47:33here

00:47:34I

00:47:34couldn't

00:47:34believe

00:47:35my

00:47:35eyes

00:47:41when

00:47:42when

00:47:42we

00:47:42realized

00:47:42Christopher

00:47:43wasn't

00:47:43there

00:47:43that's

00:47:44when

00:47:44the

00:47:44evidence

00:47:45collection

00:47:45started

00:47:47sandbags

00:47:49find all

00:47:50the way

00:47:50to the

00:47:50ceiling

00:47:50there

00:47:58sandbags

00:47:58not

00:47:58completely

00:48:02insolation

00:48:03club

00:48:09to

00:48:09the

00:48:10inside

00:48:12this

00:48:12is

00:48:12the

00:48:13interior

00:48:13and

00:48:14I

00:48:14could

00:48:14see

00:48:15the

00:48:15soundproof

00:48:15panels

00:48:16that

00:48:16she

00:48:16had

00:48:16described

00:48:17all

00:48:17over

00:48:17the

00:48:17walls

00:48:18so

00:48:18to

00:48:19give

00:48:19you

00:48:19another

00:48:19view

00:48:21of

00:48:22the

00:48:22inside

00:48:22he

00:48:24packed

00:48:24insulation

00:48:25in the

00:48:26roof

00:48:26insulation

00:48:27on

00:48:27all

00:48:28the

00:48:28sides

00:48:29he

00:48:29really

00:48:30wanted

00:48:30to

00:48:30make

00:48:30sure

00:48:30that

00:48:31nobody

00:48:31knew

00:48:32that

00:48:32they

00:48:32were

00:48:32in

00:48:32there

00:48:32and

00:48:33that

00:48:33nobody

00:48:33could

00:48:33hear

00:48:34Sam

00:48:34if

00:48:34she

00:48:34was

00:48:34screaming

00:48:36there

00:48:36are

00:48:36three

00:48:36hooks

00:48:37in

00:48:37the

00:48:37wall

00:48:43so

00:48:43that's

00:48:43two

00:48:44by six

00:48:44construction

00:48:50now we're

00:48:51shutting

00:48:51the second

00:48:51door

00:48:51which

00:48:52is

00:48:52the

00:48:52exterior

00:48:59so

00:49:00as soon

00:49:00as I

00:49:00saw

00:49:00the

00:49:00bunker

00:49:01I

00:49:01just

00:49:02want

00:49:02to

00:49:02find

00:49:02him

00:49:02I

00:49:02want

00:49:03to

00:49:03find

00:49:03him

00:49:03and

00:49:03I

00:49:03want

00:49:03to

00:49:03get

00:49:03him

00:49:04into

00:49:04custody

00:49:04as

00:49:04soon

00:49:04as

00:49:05possible

00:49:05I

00:49:05knew

00:49:06that

00:49:06Sam

00:49:07was in

00:49:08fear

00:49:08for him

00:49:09being out

00:49:09there

00:49:09and the

00:49:10longer

00:49:10that he

00:49:10was

00:49:10out

00:49:10there

00:49:11the

00:49:11more

00:49:11fear

00:49:12she

00:49:12was

00:49:12going

00:49:12to

00:49:12be

00:49:12in

00:49:13for

00:49:13not

00:49:13knowing

00:49:13where

00:49:13he

00:49:13was

00:49:14at

00:49:17I

00:49:17don't

00:49:18know

00:49:18that

00:49:18my

00:49:18friends

00:49:18or

00:49:19family

00:49:19are

00:49:19safe

00:49:19or

00:49:20that

00:49:20they

00:49:21would

00:49:21be

00:49:22used

00:49:22to

00:49:22try

00:49:22to

00:49:22get

00:49:22to

00:49:23me

00:49:23or

00:49:24that

00:49:24he

00:49:24would

00:49:24hurt

00:49:25someone

00:49:26he's

00:49:26out

00:49:27there

00:49:27and

00:49:27he's

00:49:28capable

00:49:28of

00:49:30murdering

00:49:30I

00:49:30think

00:49:35I

00:49:36think

00:49:36if

00:49:37you

00:49:37kidnap

00:49:38somebody

00:49:38and

00:49:39chain

00:49:39them

00:49:39to

00:49:39a

00:49:39wall

00:49:40you

00:49:40have

00:49:40no

00:49:40boundaries

00:49:45even

00:49:45if

00:49:46you

00:49:46think

00:49:46somebody

00:49:47is

00:49:48creepy

00:49:48or

00:49:48crazy

00:49:49you

00:49:49can't

00:49:49actually

00:49:50fathom

00:49:50that

00:49:50they

00:49:50would

00:49:51build

00:49:51a

00:49:52bunker

00:49:52for

00:49:53somebody

00:49:53in

00:49:53a

00:49:53storage

00:49:54unit

00:49:58I

00:49:59was

00:49:59convinced

00:50:00if he

00:50:00had

00:50:00gone

00:50:01through

00:50:01all

00:50:01that

00:50:01trouble

00:50:02that

00:50:02there

00:50:03was

00:50:03going

00:50:03to

00:50:03be

00:50:03no

00:50:04end

00:50:04unless

00:50:04he

00:50:04was

00:50:04behind

00:50:05bars

00:50:09my

00:50:10specialty

00:50:10is

00:50:10cellular

00:50:11analysis

00:50:12it's

00:50:13not

00:50:13pinpoint

00:50:13to

00:50:14the

00:50:14location

00:50:14but

00:50:14I

00:50:15can

00:50:15get

00:50:15pretty

00:50:15close

00:50:15to

00:50:15where

00:50:16the

00:50:16cellular

00:50:16device

00:50:16was

00:50:16at

00:50:18I

00:50:20was

00:50:20able

00:50:20to

00:50:21determine

00:50:21the

00:50:22area

00:50:22where

00:50:22I

00:50:22thought

00:50:23I

00:50:23had

00:50:23the

00:50:23highest

00:50:23probability

00:50:24of

00:50:24being

00:50:24able

00:50:24to

00:50:24find

00:50:25Christopher

00:50:25cell

00:50:25phone

00:50:28we

00:50:28broke

00:50:29up

00:50:29into

00:50:30separate

00:50:30groups

00:50:30and

00:50:31we

00:50:31began

00:50:31driving

00:50:33I

00:50:36was

00:50:37driving

00:50:37down

00:50:37road

00:50:37street

00:50:38it

00:50:38was

00:50:39the

00:50:39first

00:50:40road

00:50:40that

00:50:40I

00:50:40had

00:50:40driven

00:50:41down

00:50:41and

00:50:41out

00:50:42of

00:50:42luck's

00:50:42chance

00:50:42I

00:50:42looked

00:50:43down

00:50:43an

00:50:43alley

00:50:43and

00:50:43I

00:50:44see

00:50:44the

00:50:44front

00:50:44of

00:50:44a

00:50:44car

00:50:46Sam

00:50:47had

00:50:47told

00:50:47detective

00:50:47Mattucci

00:50:48that

00:50:49Christopher

00:50:49drove

00:50:50a

00:50:50black

00:50:51Cadillac

00:50:51CTS

00:50:52I

00:50:53thought

00:50:53to

00:50:53myself

00:50:53there's

00:50:54there's

00:50:54no way

00:50:54that this

00:50:55is going

00:50:55to be

00:50:55this

00:50:55easy

00:51:01and

00:51:02surveillance

00:51:02detective

00:51:03and

00:51:03called out

00:51:04that the

00:51:05suspect

00:51:05was out

00:51:05of his

00:51:06house

00:51:06and was

00:51:06approaching

00:51:06his

00:51:07car

00:51:08he was

00:51:09giving us

00:51:09updates

00:51:10he's

00:51:10now

00:51:10inside

00:51:10of his

00:51:11car

00:51:11the

00:51:12car

00:51:12is

00:51:12now

00:51:12driving

00:51:12away

00:51:13down

00:51:13the

00:51:13alley

00:51:17everybody

00:51:17knew

00:51:18what was

00:51:19at stake

00:51:19we don't

00:51:20want to

00:51:20put our

00:51:21guys

00:51:21in

00:51:22harm's

00:51:22way

00:51:22but we

00:51:23also have

00:51:24to protect

00:51:24the

00:51:24community

00:51:31open the

00:51:32door

00:51:32open the

00:51:33door

00:51:35I can't

00:51:35hear him

00:51:36open the

00:51:38door

00:51:40hands up

00:51:44unlock

00:51:45your door

00:51:48don't

00:51:48touch

00:51:48your phone

00:51:49just get

00:51:50out of

00:51:50the car

00:51:51you're

00:51:52good

00:52:02he's

00:52:02detectives

00:52:03let us

00:52:03know

00:52:04that

00:52:04he's

00:52:05been

00:52:05found

00:52:05and

00:52:06arrested

00:52:06and

00:52:07it

00:52:08was

00:52:08safe

00:52:09if I

00:52:09wanted

00:52:10to

00:52:10return

00:52:11to

00:52:11my

00:52:11home

00:52:13and

00:52:14I

00:52:15felt

00:52:15this

00:52:15weight

00:52:16lifted

00:52:16off

00:52:16of

00:52:17me

00:52:17like

00:52:17okay

00:52:18he's

00:52:18not

00:52:18going

00:52:19to

00:52:19hurt

00:52:19my

00:52:19friends

00:52:19and

00:52:19family

00:52:20and

00:52:21me

00:52:21and

00:52:21I

00:52:22don't

00:52:22know

00:52:22what's

00:52:22going

00:52:22to

00:52:23come

00:52:23next

00:52:23but

00:52:24they

00:52:25caught

00:52:25him

00:52:25like

00:52:26I

00:52:27did

00:52:28the

00:52:28thing

00:52:28like

00:52:29I

00:52:31they

00:52:31arrested

00:52:32him

00:52:35I

00:52:35was

00:52:35I

00:52:36was

00:52:36had

00:52:36a

00:52:39job

00:52:40to

00:52:40do

00:52:40because

00:52:41I

00:52:41wanted

00:52:41to

00:52:41verify

00:52:41everything

00:52:42that

00:52:42Sam

00:52:43had

00:52:43told

00:52:43me

00:52:45I

00:52:49was

00:52:50he's

00:52:51just

00:52:51staring

00:52:51at

00:52:51me

00:52:52not

00:52:53much

00:52:53expression

00:52:54not

00:52:55much

00:52:55emotion

00:52:56at

00:52:56all

00:52:56do

00:52:56you

00:52:57mind

00:52:57switching

00:52:57chairs

00:52:57with

00:52:58me

00:52:58I

00:52:58was

00:52:59there

00:52:59for

00:52:59not

00:52:59only

00:53:00as

00:53:00a

00:53:01secondary

00:53:01interviewer

00:53:02but

00:53:02also

00:53:02to

00:53:03keep

00:53:04an eye

00:53:04on

00:53:04Christopher

00:53:05do

00:53:06you

00:53:06know

00:53:06why

00:53:06you're

00:53:06here

00:53:06do

00:53:07you

00:53:07know

00:53:07why

00:53:07you're

00:53:08under

00:53:08arrest

00:53:08just

00:53:08tell

00:53:09me

00:53:09why

00:53:09I

00:53:09am

00:53:09under

00:53:09arrest

00:53:11well

00:53:11it

00:53:11has

00:53:12to do

00:53:12with

00:53:16do

00:53:16you

00:53:16know

00:53:17Sam

00:53:18Sam

00:53:19has

00:53:19name

00:53:19Stites

00:53:20he

00:53:20was

00:53:21kind

00:53:21of

00:53:21playing

00:53:22dumb

00:53:22with

00:53:22me

00:53:23wondering

00:53:24why

00:53:24he

00:53:24was

00:53:24there

00:53:25so

00:53:25yeah

00:53:25we're

00:53:25here

00:53:26to

00:53:26talk

00:53:26to

00:53:26you

00:53:26about

00:53:26Sam

00:53:26and

00:53:27what

00:53:27happened

00:53:27Friday

00:53:28would have

00:53:29been

00:53:29between

00:53:297 a.m.

00:53:30and about

00:53:309 p.m.

00:53:32okay

00:53:33were you

00:53:34working

00:53:34that day

00:53:34no

00:53:36I

00:53:36get out

00:53:37in the

00:53:37morning

00:53:37okay

00:53:38what were

00:53:38you doing

00:53:38Friday

00:53:39I'm on

00:53:39vacation

00:53:40what's

00:53:40happening

00:53:46Chris

00:53:48we know

00:53:48you weren't

00:53:49hunting

00:53:50not the

00:53:50whole

00:53:51day

00:53:51but

00:53:51okay

00:53:52what were

00:53:52you doing

00:53:53at 7 a.m.

00:53:54it was in the

00:53:55woods

00:53:55okay

00:53:55well you

00:53:56weren't in

00:53:56the woods

00:53:58at 7

00:54:02we have

00:54:03video surveillance

00:54:04from your

00:54:05storage units

00:54:06load on

00:54:06Vance Road

00:54:07he was mad

00:54:08and I

00:54:09think he

00:54:09was mad

00:54:10at Sam

00:54:10he

00:54:11believed

00:54:12her

00:54:12that

00:54:13they

00:54:13were

00:54:13going

00:54:13to have

00:54:14this

00:54:14friendship

00:54:14this

00:54:14relationship

00:54:15well we

00:54:16did do a

00:54:17search warrant

00:54:17at the

00:54:18storage unit

00:54:19we know

00:54:19what's in

00:54:20there

00:54:20it looks

00:54:21bad

00:54:21Christopher

00:54:22that's

00:54:23what we're

00:54:23saying

00:54:23tell us

00:54:24the reason

00:54:25behind it

00:54:26so that

00:54:26there's an

00:54:26explanation

00:54:27behind it

00:54:28he started

00:54:29to lie

00:54:30to us

00:54:30it's weird

00:54:31because

00:54:32it's

00:54:32personal

00:54:34and it's

00:54:35uncomfortable

00:54:35for me

00:54:36tell us

00:54:37what was

00:54:37going

00:54:37through

00:54:38your

00:54:38mind

00:54:41if you

00:54:42weren't

00:54:42going

00:54:42to harm

00:54:42her

00:54:43what was

00:54:44it for

00:54:45it's

00:54:46role

00:54:46playing

00:54:46and gone

00:54:47away

00:54:47too far

00:54:49he claimed

00:54:50this was

00:54:51a planned

00:54:52event

00:54:53where he

00:54:54was supposed

00:54:54to surprise

00:54:55her

00:54:55but he

00:54:56overdid

00:54:57it

00:54:57and she

00:54:58didn't like

00:54:59the surprise

00:55:00took it

00:55:01further than

00:55:01she wanted

00:55:02to

00:55:02so

00:55:03we wanted

00:55:04him to

00:55:04talk

00:55:05and the

00:55:05more he

00:55:06said

00:55:06the more

00:55:06he verified

00:55:07the better

00:55:08have

00:55:08you ever

00:55:08watched

00:55:08that next

00:55:09foot

00:55:09series

00:55:10you

00:55:12possibly

00:55:15haven't

00:55:15do you

00:55:15think you

00:55:16watched

00:55:16it

00:55:16would

00:55:16be on

00:55:17your

00:55:17Netflix

00:55:17history

00:55:21you know

00:55:22I don't

00:55:23even

00:55:23open

00:55:23the TV

00:55:24so

00:55:25the way

00:55:25that he

00:55:25snapped

00:55:26his head

00:55:26and looked

00:55:26at me

00:55:26when I

00:55:27asked him

00:55:27I knew

00:55:27that he

00:55:27had seen

00:55:28him

00:55:29he's kind

00:55:30of surprised

00:55:30during the start of the role

00:55:31playing

00:55:31yeah

00:55:32that's why I took it too far

00:55:33like when my wife

00:55:35like when my wife says

00:55:35surprised me

00:55:36I take her out to dinner

00:55:36and gave her flowers

00:55:37I mean

00:55:38there's role playing

00:55:41and then there's

00:55:41breaking into someone's house

00:55:43kidnapping them

00:55:44binding and gagging them

00:55:45putting them in a car

00:55:47driving them to a storage unit

00:55:49that you have staged

00:55:50with a soundproof room

00:55:52hooking them to a

00:55:53metal bracket

00:55:55on the wall

00:55:56making the

00:55:57in a bucket

00:55:58and then raping them

00:55:59I didn't rape Sam

00:56:02but if she was not

00:56:03okay with this

00:56:04as you said in the beginning

00:56:05that's rape

00:56:07knowing the things

00:56:08that he did to her

00:56:10I'm looking

00:56:10across the table at him

00:56:11and I am thinking

00:56:12that he is pure evil

00:56:15I've never seen

00:56:16daylight again

00:56:17why do you say that?

00:56:18because you've already

00:56:19built a case against me

00:56:20and you're taking

00:56:21everything that she says

00:56:23as truth

00:56:24he's trying to

00:56:26give us a story

00:56:27to paint

00:56:27Sam

00:56:28in a terrible light

00:56:30and that she was

00:56:31complicit in everything

00:56:32I have a lot of experience

00:56:34doing these types of cases

00:56:35and what I've

00:56:37come to understand

00:56:39over the years

00:56:39especially with juries

00:56:41is they expect

00:56:43somebody to act

00:56:44a certain way

00:56:44if they're being sexually

00:56:45assaulted

00:56:45they should fight

00:56:46they should run

00:56:47and if they don't do that

00:56:49they're not believed

00:56:51so I'm going to do

00:56:51a buckle swab

00:56:52on the right side

00:56:53and a buckle swab

00:56:54on the left side

00:56:58there was a lot

00:56:59more information

00:56:59out there

00:56:59that we had

00:57:00to try to find

00:57:13at the hospital

00:57:14Sam mentioned

00:57:15that he removed

00:57:16all the hair

00:57:16from his body

00:57:17so he could

00:57:18avoid detection

00:57:19DNA wise

00:57:20he didn't want

00:57:21to leave hair behind

00:57:22so he tried

00:57:23to chemically

00:57:24remove a bunch

00:57:25of his hair

00:57:25and it had

00:57:25a bad skin reaction

00:57:29and when he took

00:57:31his pants

00:57:32and his shirt off

00:57:33you could see

00:57:33chemical burns

00:57:34on his body

00:57:37I want to put

00:57:38a case together

00:57:39that makes him

00:57:40go to jail

00:57:40for the longest

00:57:41time possible

00:57:56one of my first

00:57:57phone calls

00:57:57was to Noelle

00:57:58Mogenberg

00:57:59she's the head

00:58:00prosecuting attorney

00:58:01in Grand Traverse

00:58:01County

00:58:03I got a call

00:58:04from Detective

00:58:05Matucci

00:58:06and we've worked

00:58:07together for a long

00:58:08time so I was

00:58:09kind of like

00:58:09okay what's really

00:58:10up

00:58:11that's a good

00:58:11one

00:58:12but what's going

00:58:12on what do

00:58:13you need

00:58:13and no

00:58:14no I'm serious

00:58:15and in my mind

00:58:17at that point

00:58:17I'm formulating

00:58:18okay what is this

00:58:19going to look like

00:58:20when we go to court

00:58:22I had just hoped

00:58:23that a jury

00:58:24would believe Sam

00:58:25and she was

00:58:26extremely believable

00:58:27and had this long

00:58:28history of telling

00:58:29him no

00:58:33this is a prepaid

00:58:34call from

00:58:35Christopher Thomas

00:58:37I don't know

00:58:38how much to say

00:58:39not to say

00:58:40I know you

00:58:41he was a loving

00:58:42caring

00:58:42kind

00:58:43person

00:58:43yes

00:58:45I am

00:58:46and I don't know

00:58:47and I don't know

00:58:48if something

00:58:49snapped inside you

00:58:50no nothing

00:58:51snapped inside me

00:58:52everything that

00:58:53happened on that

00:58:53day was loving

00:58:55kind and caring

00:58:56I did not hurt

00:58:57anybody

00:59:05we had been in touch

00:59:08with the prosecutor's

00:59:09office

00:59:10and Christopher

00:59:11was set to be

00:59:11arraigned

00:59:12and so

00:59:13Robin and I

00:59:14streamed the

00:59:15arraignment

00:59:17there on my TV

00:59:19screen in my

00:59:19living room

00:59:20seeing him

00:59:21in that orange

00:59:22jumpsuit

00:59:23and hearing my name

00:59:24and hearing

00:59:25the actual

00:59:26crimes he was

00:59:27charged with

00:59:28you know

00:59:29there were

00:59:29very heavy

00:59:29words

00:59:30I charge

00:59:31Christopher Thomas

00:59:31with kidnapping

00:59:33home invasion

00:59:34first

00:59:34torture

00:59:36aggravated stalking

00:59:37and four counts

00:59:38of criminal

00:59:39sexual conduct

00:59:40first degree

00:59:40he stalked

00:59:42the victim

00:59:42in this case

00:59:43for over a decade

00:59:44Christopher pleads

00:59:45not guilty

00:59:46to all of the

00:59:47charges

00:59:48and

00:59:50I'm

00:59:51not surprised

00:59:52the judge

00:59:53agreed

00:59:53there'd be

00:59:54no safety

00:59:54for Sam

00:59:55if Chris

00:59:56was released

00:59:57and so

00:59:58she denied

00:59:59bail

01:00:00I didn't have

01:00:00to find

01:00:01another

01:00:01plan

01:00:02to hide

01:00:03or escape

01:00:04or

01:00:05live in fear

01:00:06that he could

01:00:07just come

01:00:07to my home

01:00:08he was locked

01:00:09up

01:00:09and

01:00:10it felt

01:00:11like another

01:00:12win

01:00:12all right

01:00:14hold on

01:00:14one sec

01:00:16all right

01:00:17so it's

01:00:171024

01:00:20every piece

01:00:21of information

01:00:22that we got

01:00:22was important

01:00:23we did our best

01:00:24to locate the

01:00:25trackers

01:00:25initially he had

01:00:27outright denied

01:00:28having any trackers

01:00:29on any vehicles

01:00:30where's Sam's at

01:00:31on her car

01:00:32you don't know

01:00:34where you put it at

01:00:36she put it in there

01:00:37she did not

01:00:38put a tracking

01:00:39place on her own

01:00:39car Christopher

01:00:40she didn't

01:00:41he didn't want

01:00:42to admit to a

01:00:43misdemeanor

01:00:43of tracking

01:00:44somebody

01:00:46and meanwhile

01:00:47he's looking

01:00:47at several

01:00:48life offenses

01:00:49for what he

01:00:50had just done

01:00:51nowhere could

01:00:52I find them

01:00:53I even told

01:00:53Sam that I

01:00:54can't believe

01:00:55that I'm being

01:00:55beaten by this

01:00:56guy on these

01:00:57placements

01:00:57of these trackers

01:00:58one of the

01:00:58cars we put it

01:00:59up on a rack

01:00:59where we could

01:01:00get underneath

01:01:00it

01:01:05he put them

01:01:06up underneath

01:01:06the bumpers

01:01:07these particular

01:01:08trackers

01:01:08you only get

01:01:09a couple of

01:01:10weeks worth

01:01:10of battery

01:01:10life on

01:01:11them

01:01:22so he had

01:01:23to travel

01:01:23to all

01:01:24these

01:01:24different

01:01:24locations

01:01:24to constantly

01:01:26check the

01:01:26batteries

01:01:27charge the

01:01:28batteries

01:01:28and place

01:01:28the trackers

01:01:29back on

01:01:29and off

01:01:30all these

01:01:30vehicles

01:01:32it seemed

01:01:33like when

01:01:34he was not

01:01:34at work

01:01:34or sleeping

01:01:35he was

01:01:35tracking her

01:01:36so when we

01:01:38looked at his

01:01:38phone

01:01:38I can't even

01:01:39count how

01:01:40many videos

01:01:41and pictures

01:01:42of Sam

01:01:43it's been

01:01:4410 years

01:01:4410 plus years

01:01:46and this guy

01:01:47has not stopped

01:01:54after 2014

01:01:55after the

01:01:56restraining order

01:01:58my life

01:01:59moved on

01:01:59but his

01:02:00didn't

01:02:01but that

01:02:02whole time

01:02:02I just

01:02:03had the

01:02:03feeling

01:02:03like I

01:02:04was being

01:02:04watched

01:02:05while I

01:02:06lived in

01:02:06Kansas City

01:02:07there's a

01:02:08woman named

01:02:08Sarah Mott

01:02:09that comments

01:02:10on my

01:02:11blog

01:02:12so Sarah

01:02:13and I

01:02:13had some

01:02:14email

01:02:15sort of

01:02:15exchanges

01:02:18I later

01:02:19found out

01:02:20that

01:02:20Christopher

01:02:21had posed

01:02:23as Sarah Mott

01:02:24he

01:02:26made

01:02:27some fake

01:02:28account

01:02:28and

01:02:29he was

01:02:30following me

01:02:35at Christopher's

01:02:36house

01:02:37there were

01:02:38receipts

01:02:39from stores

01:02:40around town

01:02:41which

01:02:42led us

01:02:43to look

01:02:43at their

01:02:44video surveillance

01:02:44and actually

01:02:45catch them

01:02:45on camera

01:02:46buying

01:02:47all these

01:02:47things

01:02:55I

01:02:56file

01:02:56the PPO

01:02:57in July

01:02:58and it's

01:02:59denied

01:03:01August

01:03:02and September

01:03:02he's

01:03:03building

01:03:04this

01:03:05bunker

01:03:06to kidnap

01:03:06me in

01:03:07and hold

01:03:07me in

01:03:08he spent

01:03:09thousands

01:03:10of dollars

01:03:10on creating

01:03:12this box

01:03:13so he could

01:03:13spend time

01:03:14time with

01:03:14Sam

01:03:14and do

01:03:15God

01:03:16only knows

01:03:16what

01:03:19to see

01:03:20someone like

01:03:21that

01:03:21who was able

01:03:22to hold

01:03:23a regular

01:03:23job

01:03:24who was able

01:03:24to appear

01:03:25as a

01:03:25normal

01:03:26productive

01:03:27member of

01:03:28society

01:03:28who's then

01:03:29got this

01:03:29other side

01:03:30of him

01:03:30going on

01:03:31in the

01:03:31background

01:03:32was really

01:03:33scary

01:03:52I got a text

01:03:53message

01:03:54and it was

01:03:55the detective

01:03:55from Grand

01:03:56Traverse

01:03:56and he said

01:03:57can you

01:03:57call me

01:03:57so I

01:03:58called him

01:03:59and he

01:04:00said

01:04:00do you

01:04:00remember

01:04:02a guy

01:04:03named

01:04:03Christopher

01:04:04Thomas

01:04:04and I

01:04:05think I

01:04:06said

01:04:07I will

01:04:08never

01:04:08forget

01:04:09a guy

01:04:10named

01:04:10Christopher

01:04:10Thomas

01:04:22in 2009

01:04:24I was

01:04:25in college

01:04:26full time

01:04:26and working

01:04:27at a residential

01:04:27treatment center

01:04:28and that's

01:04:29where I met

01:04:29Christopher

01:04:31one day

01:04:32he asked

01:04:33if I wanted

01:04:33to go to

01:04:34dinner

01:04:37and I

01:04:38didn't really

01:04:38think too

01:04:39much of it

01:04:40but apparently

01:04:41he did

01:04:44so next

01:04:44he wanted

01:04:45to know

01:04:45if I wanted

01:04:46to go

01:04:46ice skating

01:04:47I did not

01:04:48want to go

01:04:48ice skating

01:04:49with him

01:04:51but that's

01:04:52when I was

01:04:52younger

01:04:52and still

01:04:53trying to

01:04:53be nice

01:04:54and so

01:04:55I told him

01:04:56that I had

01:04:57studying to do

01:04:57instead of

01:04:58just flat out

01:04:58saying no

01:04:59I don't

01:04:59want to go

01:05:02when I

01:05:03set those

01:05:03boundaries

01:05:04and he

01:05:04didn't

01:05:04like it

01:05:05things

01:05:05kind of

01:05:05escalated

01:05:05after that

01:05:09the spring

01:05:10semester

01:05:10I was

01:05:11sitting in

01:05:11class

01:05:12and I

01:05:12would see

01:05:12him drive

01:05:13through the

01:05:14parking lot

01:05:14on campus

01:05:19not long

01:05:20after that

01:05:20my friend

01:05:21was at the

01:05:22house

01:05:23and I

01:05:24looked out

01:05:24the window

01:05:25and I

01:05:26was like

01:05:26he's outside

01:05:27but he

01:05:28was on foot

01:05:29and my

01:05:30friend got

01:05:30up and

01:05:30ran out

01:05:31of the

01:05:31house

01:05:31and chased

01:05:32him

01:05:33I filed

01:05:33a PPO

01:05:34that

01:05:34night

01:05:35and the

01:05:36judge

01:05:36signed it

01:05:36ex parte

01:05:37which means

01:05:37there was

01:05:38no court

01:05:38hearing

01:05:38this was

01:05:40serious

01:05:40enough

01:05:41that

01:05:42it was

01:05:43necessitated

01:05:45after that

01:05:46you know

01:05:47it's just a

01:05:48matter of

01:05:48every time

01:05:50you see

01:05:50him

01:05:50you have

01:05:51to document

01:05:52it

01:05:55all summer

01:05:56he'd drive

01:05:57by and I'd

01:05:58be like

01:05:58well am I

01:05:59calling the

01:05:59police today

01:06:00or am I

01:06:00not

01:06:00calling

01:06:01the

01:06:01police

01:06:01today

01:06:04and then

01:06:05we got

01:06:05a new

01:06:05prosecutor

01:06:06and she

01:06:06called

01:06:07me

01:06:08and she

01:06:08said

01:06:08you know

01:06:10all of

01:06:11this is

01:06:11going on

01:06:11like do

01:06:12you want

01:06:12to press

01:06:12charges

01:06:13and I

01:06:14said

01:06:14yeah

01:06:14absolutely

01:06:15I'm

01:06:16tired

01:06:16of

01:06:16this

01:06:24he got

01:06:2524 months

01:06:26of probation

01:06:26and he

01:06:27was in

01:06:27jail for

01:06:28a few

01:06:28days

01:06:28and he

01:06:29got credit

01:06:29for time

01:06:29served

01:06:31he's

01:06:31punished

01:06:32for what

01:06:32he does

01:06:33he was

01:06:33held

01:06:34accountable

01:06:34for that

01:06:35in 2010

01:06:36and instead

01:06:37of changing

01:06:38his behavior

01:06:39he found

01:06:40a new

01:06:40victim

01:06:40I always

01:06:41knew

01:06:42that there

01:06:42would be

01:06:43somebody

01:06:43else

01:06:44and at

01:06:45that point

01:06:45you know

01:06:45I didn't

01:06:46know who

01:06:47I didn't

01:06:47know where

01:06:48I didn't

01:06:48know when

01:06:49and when

01:06:50I talked

01:06:50to the

01:06:50detective

01:06:50there was

01:06:51like this

01:06:51guilty

01:06:52like he

01:06:53did do

01:06:53it to

01:06:54somebody

01:06:54else

01:06:54I was

01:06:55right

01:06:55I knew

01:06:55this was

01:06:56going to

01:06:56happen

01:06:59how could

01:06:59this have

01:07:00gone on

01:07:00so long

01:07:00with me

01:07:01if he's

01:07:02done

01:07:02something

01:07:02like this

01:07:03before

01:07:04the

01:07:04system's

01:07:05not set

01:07:06up to

01:07:06really

01:07:06protect

01:07:07and

01:07:07defend

01:07:08women

01:07:09a victim

01:07:10of rape

01:07:11or sexual

01:07:12assault

01:07:15doesn't

01:07:17necessarily

01:07:17see justice

01:07:18most of

01:07:19the time

01:07:19so

01:07:21what's

01:07:21going to

01:07:21be

01:07:22different

01:07:22about

01:07:22me

01:07:24I found

01:07:25out that

01:07:25the defense

01:07:25wanted to

01:07:26have

01:07:26Christopher

01:07:27evaluated

01:07:27for criminal

01:07:28responsibility

01:07:29which means

01:07:30was he

01:07:31at the time

01:07:31of the offense

01:07:32able to

01:07:32understand

01:07:33right from

01:07:33wrong

01:07:36the risk

01:07:37always is

01:07:37if someone

01:07:38comes back

01:07:39and the report

01:07:40says that

01:07:41they are

01:07:41are insane

01:07:42then what

01:07:43happens

01:07:43is

01:07:44they're

01:07:44hospitalized

01:07:44and then

01:07:45after a

01:07:46certain

01:07:46time

01:07:47they're

01:07:47released

01:07:48it was

01:07:49several

01:07:50competency

01:07:50evaluations

01:07:51and each

01:07:52time

01:07:53he was

01:07:54ruled

01:07:55responsible

01:07:56for his

01:07:56actions

01:07:57you know

01:07:58I want

01:07:59to get

01:08:00some closure

01:08:00for myself

01:08:01and

01:08:02it just

01:08:03drags on

01:08:04his attorney

01:08:05wanted to

01:08:06get an

01:08:06independent

01:08:06competency

01:08:07exam

01:08:08to compare

01:08:08to the

01:08:09state

01:08:09exam

01:08:10but they

01:08:11came up

01:08:11with the

01:08:11same

01:08:11conclusion

01:08:37there were

01:08:37a few

01:08:37conversations

01:08:38that he

01:08:38had with

01:08:39his mother

01:08:39when she

01:08:40would get

01:08:40upset

01:08:41and it

01:08:41was one

01:08:41phone call

01:08:42in particular

01:08:43really

01:08:45it kind

01:08:45of scared

01:08:46me a little

01:08:46bit

01:08:46but anyways

01:08:47I'm sorry

01:08:48that you

01:08:48were so lonely

01:08:49and I'm

01:08:50sorry

01:08:52I made you

01:08:53get your own

01:08:53place

01:08:54I should

01:08:54just let you

01:08:56stay here

01:08:58you know

01:08:58it wouldn't

01:08:59have mattered

01:09:00I think

01:09:01it would

01:09:01have

01:09:01I don't

01:09:04think you

01:09:04even had

01:09:05her on

01:09:05your mind

01:09:06at that

01:09:06point

01:09:07I mean

01:09:09every day

01:09:10for the

01:09:11last

01:09:1212 years

01:09:15I never

01:09:15heard you

01:09:16mention

01:09:16her name

01:09:17once

01:09:18so we

01:09:19could have

01:09:19got you

01:09:19help or

01:09:21counseling

01:09:22or something

01:09:23we could have

01:09:23worked through

01:09:24all this

01:09:25could have

01:09:25been a whole

01:09:26different path

01:09:27than this

01:09:27path

01:09:40he's so

01:09:41far gone

01:09:41so far

01:09:42obsessed

01:09:42with her

01:09:43that

01:09:43I believe

01:09:44if he had

01:09:45the opportunity

01:09:46he would

01:09:46do something

01:09:47again

01:09:52we do

01:09:53have to

01:09:53always be

01:09:54prepared

01:09:54for trial

01:09:55but

01:09:56we knew

01:09:57that there

01:09:57was a

01:09:58potential

01:09:58for a

01:09:58plea

01:09:58bargain

01:09:59in this

01:09:59case

01:10:01so

01:10:02we get

01:10:02a call

01:10:02from

01:10:02Jesse

01:10:03Christopher's

01:10:04attorney

01:10:04and

01:10:05we started

01:10:06talking about

01:10:06what those

01:10:07pleas would

01:10:07look like

01:10:08and

01:10:09Jesse

01:10:09came back

01:10:10a few

01:10:10days later

01:10:11and said

01:10:12he's not

01:10:12ever going

01:10:13to admit

01:10:13that he

01:10:14raped her

01:10:14he says

01:10:15it was

01:10:15consensual

01:10:18despite

01:10:18his

01:10:19attorney's

01:10:20attempts

01:10:21to

01:10:22explain

01:10:23the concept

01:10:24of

01:10:24consent

01:10:25Christopher

01:10:26will

01:10:26not

01:10:26plead

01:10:27guilty

01:10:27to

01:10:28the

01:10:28criminal

01:10:28sexual

01:10:29assault

01:10:29charges

01:10:39he's

01:10:40delusional

01:10:40he thinks

01:10:41that

01:10:41she's

01:10:42consenting

01:10:42to having

01:10:43sex

01:10:43with him

01:10:43in this

01:10:43box

01:10:44and

01:10:44she's

01:10:44in a

01:10:45situation

01:10:45where

01:10:46her life

01:10:47was at

01:10:47stake

01:10:48and

01:10:48she's

01:10:48trying

01:10:49to

01:10:49survive

01:10:52I

01:10:53had

01:10:53conflicting

01:10:54feelings

01:10:54I

01:10:55thought

01:10:55a plea

01:10:56deal

01:10:56seemed

01:10:57like a

01:10:57cheap

01:10:57way

01:10:58out

01:10:58for

01:10:58him

01:10:58why

01:10:59should

01:10:59he

01:10:59get

01:11:00a

01:11:00pass

01:11:00at

01:11:00some

01:11:01of

01:11:01the

01:11:01charges

01:11:01just

01:11:02because

01:11:02he

01:11:02didn't

01:11:03agree

01:11:04or

01:11:04doesn't

01:11:05understand

01:11:05consent

01:11:06Noel

01:11:07really

01:11:08said

01:11:09yes

01:11:09this

01:11:09case

01:11:10is

01:11:10a

01:11:10slam

01:11:10dunk

01:11:10case

01:11:11but

01:11:11if

01:11:12this

01:11:12does

01:11:12go

01:11:12to

01:11:13trial

01:11:13you're

01:11:14going to

01:11:14be

01:11:14dragged

01:11:14through

01:11:15the

01:11:15mud

01:11:18you

01:11:19can

01:11:19put

01:11:19the

01:11:19best

01:11:19case

01:11:20in

01:11:20the

01:11:20world

01:11:20together

01:11:20we

01:11:22don't

01:11:22like

01:11:22to

01:11:22leave

01:11:22it

01:11:23in

01:11:23the

01:11:23hands

01:11:23of

01:11:23a

01:11:23jury

01:11:24sometimes

01:11:25juries

01:11:25get

01:11:25it

01:11:25wrong

01:11:27dropping

01:11:27the

01:11:28criminal

01:11:28sexual

01:11:28conduct

01:11:29charges

01:11:29didn't

01:11:30feel

01:11:31like

01:11:31full

01:11:31justice

01:11:31to

01:11:32me

01:11:32in

01:11:32some

01:11:32ways

01:11:33I

01:11:34wanted

01:11:34everyone

01:11:34to be

01:11:35able

01:11:35to

01:11:35point

01:11:35at

01:11:35Christopher

01:11:36and

01:11:36say

01:11:36this

01:11:37person

01:11:37is

01:11:37a

01:11:37rapist

01:11:38but

01:11:39in

01:11:39the

01:11:39end

01:11:39I

01:11:40decided

01:11:41to

01:11:41trust

01:11:41Noel's

01:11:42instincts

01:11:43and

01:11:44say

01:11:44yes

01:11:45let's

01:11:46go

01:11:46for

01:11:46a

01:11:46plea

01:11:46deal

01:11:47and

01:11:47let's

01:11:48try

01:11:49to

01:11:49make

01:11:49him

01:11:49look

01:11:49as

01:11:50awful

01:11:50as

01:11:50we

01:11:50can

01:11:55when

01:11:56I

01:11:56asked

01:11:57Noel

01:11:57who

01:11:58the

01:11:58judge

01:11:59assigned

01:11:59to

01:11:59the

01:11:59case

01:12:00is

01:12:00she

01:12:00tells

01:12:01me

01:12:01it's

01:12:02Judge

01:12:02Elzenheimer

01:12:05that was

01:12:05the same

01:12:06guy who

01:12:06denied

01:12:06my

01:12:07PPO

01:12:07how

01:12:08could

01:12:09this

01:12:09judge

01:12:09be

01:12:09assigned

01:12:10to

01:12:11this

01:12:11case

01:12:14and

01:12:15I'm

01:12:15like

01:12:15either

01:12:15that's

01:12:15going

01:12:16to

01:12:16be

01:12:17a

01:12:17good

01:12:17thing

01:12:17because

01:12:18he's

01:12:18going

01:12:18to

01:12:18feel

01:12:18awful

01:12:20or

01:12:20potentially

01:12:21it

01:12:22could

01:12:23be

01:12:23bad

01:12:28a

01:12:29Traverse

01:12:29city

01:12:29man

01:12:29accused

01:12:30of

01:12:30kidnapping

01:12:30a

01:12:30woman

01:12:31and

01:12:31holding

01:12:31her

01:12:31hostage

01:12:32in

01:12:32a

01:12:32soundproof

01:12:33bunker

01:12:33took a

01:12:34plea

01:12:34deal

01:12:35today

01:12:35is

01:12:35your

01:12:36belief

01:12:36that

01:12:36you

01:12:37acted

01:12:37in

01:12:37such

01:12:38a

01:12:38way

01:12:38as

01:12:39to

01:12:39create

01:12:39a

01:12:40severe

01:12:40mental

01:12:40pain

01:12:41on

01:12:41her

01:12:41part

01:12:42yeah

01:12:42thomas

01:12:44bled

01:12:44guilty

01:12:44to

01:12:44kidnapping

01:12:45torture

01:12:45and

01:12:45aggravated

01:12:46stalking

01:12:46all other

01:12:47charges

01:12:47will be

01:12:48dropped

01:12:48when he

01:12:48sends

01:12:49christopher

01:12:50does

01:12:50choose

01:12:51to

01:12:51accept

01:12:51the

01:12:51plea

01:12:51deal

01:12:52and

01:12:52finally

01:12:53i get

01:12:54a date

01:12:54for

01:12:54sentencing

01:12:55it's

01:12:56going to

01:12:56happen

01:12:56february

01:12:575th

01:12:582024

01:13:02the

01:13:02day

01:13:02of

01:13:03the

01:13:03sentencing

01:13:03we

01:13:04go

01:13:04into

01:13:04the

01:13:04courtroom

01:13:05we

01:13:05have

01:13:06robin

01:13:06me

01:13:07sam

01:13:07we

01:13:08have

01:13:08christopher's

01:13:09family

01:13:10right

01:13:10there

01:13:10christopher's

01:13:12not there

01:13:12yet

01:13:12but the

01:13:12stage

01:13:13has

01:13:13been

01:13:13set

01:13:14and

01:13:14we're

01:13:14all

01:13:14holding

01:13:15our

01:13:15breaths

01:13:19christopher

01:13:21enters

01:13:22in his

01:13:22orange

01:13:23jumpsuit

01:13:23with

01:13:24his

01:13:24hands

01:13:24bound

01:13:26and

01:13:27he's

01:13:27there

01:13:28in

01:13:28the

01:13:28flesh

01:13:28in

01:13:29front

01:13:29of

01:13:29me

01:13:29all

01:13:30right

01:13:30do

01:13:31the

01:13:31people

01:13:31have

01:13:31any

01:13:31argument

01:13:32for

01:13:32your

01:13:32sentence

01:13:33yes

01:13:33thank you

01:13:36i wanted

01:13:37to make

01:13:37sure

01:13:37that the

01:13:38judge

01:13:38heard

01:13:39all the

01:13:40details

01:13:40of what

01:13:41exactly

01:13:41she went

01:13:42through

01:13:42that

01:13:42day

01:13:42she

01:13:43agreed

01:13:44to

01:13:44have

01:13:44sex

01:13:45with

01:13:45him

01:13:45so

01:13:45that

01:13:46hoping

01:13:47that

01:13:47he

01:13:47would

01:13:48fulfill

01:13:48his

01:13:48end

01:13:48of

01:13:48this

01:13:49bizarre

01:13:49bargain

01:13:50and

01:13:50let

01:13:50her

01:13:51go

01:13:51noel

01:13:52hoped

01:13:52that

01:13:53this

01:13:53would

01:13:53persuade

01:13:54the

01:13:54judge

01:13:54to

01:13:55sentence

01:13:55outside

01:13:56of

01:13:56the

01:13:56guidelines

01:13:57he

01:13:57then

01:13:57penetrated

01:13:58her

01:13:58with

01:13:58his

01:13:59penis

01:13:59to

01:14:00the

01:14:00point

01:14:00that

01:14:00she

01:14:00was

01:14:00crying

01:14:01and

01:14:01shaking

01:14:02it

01:14:02just

01:14:02felt

01:14:03like

01:14:03such

01:14:03a

01:14:03private

01:14:03thing

01:14:05that

01:14:05would

01:14:05just

01:14:06be

01:14:06out

01:14:06in

01:14:06the

01:14:06open

01:14:06but

01:14:07I

01:14:07understood

01:14:08why

01:14:08she

01:14:08needed

01:14:08to

01:14:09do

01:14:09it

01:14:10I

01:14:10would

01:14:11ask

01:14:11the

01:14:11court

01:14:12to

01:14:12think

01:14:12about

01:14:13the

01:14:13duration

01:14:15of

01:14:16both

01:14:16the

01:14:16aggravated

01:14:16stalking

01:14:17and

01:14:17the

01:14:17kidnapping

01:14:18about

01:14:19the

01:14:19meticulous

01:14:20preparation

01:14:20that

01:14:21the

01:14:21defendant

01:14:21took

01:14:22and

01:14:22I

01:14:22felt

01:14:22like

01:14:23this

01:14:23was

01:14:23the

01:14:23first

01:14:24time

01:14:26after

01:14:26enduring

01:14:27that

01:14:28whole

01:14:28day

01:14:28with

01:14:29him

01:14:29that

01:14:30I

01:14:31felt

01:14:31free

01:14:32to

01:14:32really

01:14:34tell

01:14:34him

01:14:35some

01:14:36of

01:14:36my

01:14:36true

01:14:36thoughts

01:14:37I

01:14:38don't

01:14:38want

01:14:38to

01:14:38address

01:14:39Christopher

01:14:39as

01:14:40he

01:14:40has

01:14:40not

01:14:40honored

01:14:41my

01:14:41requests

01:14:42nor

01:14:43shown

01:14:43he

01:14:43values

01:14:44my

01:14:44thoughts

01:14:44or

01:14:45feelings

01:14:45in

01:14:46over

01:14:46a

01:14:46decade

01:14:48I

01:14:49wondered

01:14:49if I

01:14:49would

01:14:49see

01:14:49daylight

01:14:50again

01:14:52I

01:14:52shook

01:14:52and

01:14:53sobbed

01:14:53after

01:14:54he

01:14:54raped

01:14:54me

01:14:56I

01:14:56wasn't

01:14:56sure

01:14:57he

01:14:57would

01:14:57stop

01:15:00If

01:15:01I

01:15:01tried

01:15:01to

01:15:01push

01:15:02him

01:15:02away

01:15:02would

01:15:02he

01:15:03hold

01:15:03me

01:15:03down

01:15:03again

01:15:06I

01:15:07never

01:15:07want

01:15:07to

01:15:07worry

01:15:08about

01:15:08him

01:15:08hurting

01:15:09me

01:15:09or

01:15:10another

01:15:10woman

01:15:10ever

01:15:11again

01:15:11I

01:15:12ask

01:15:13that

01:15:13the

01:15:13court

01:15:13protect

01:15:14myself

01:15:15and

01:15:16other

01:15:16women

01:15:16from

01:15:17being

01:15:18stalked

01:15:18and

01:15:18raped

01:15:19by

01:15:19this

01:15:19sick

01:15:20and

01:15:20destructive

01:15:20a

01:15:21man

01:15:21by

01:15:21considering

01:15:22the

01:15:22longest

01:15:23sentence

01:15:24permitted

01:15:25by

01:15:25law

01:15:27Thank

01:15:27you

01:15:27ma'am

01:15:28I

01:15:28guess

01:15:29when

01:15:29you

01:15:29see

01:15:29someone

01:15:29as

01:15:30strong

01:15:30as

01:15:31Sam

01:15:31is

01:15:31and

01:15:32as

01:15:32unshakable

01:15:33as

01:15:33Sam

01:15:33is

01:15:34and

01:15:34then

01:15:34you

01:15:34see

01:15:35them

01:15:35break

01:15:35down

01:15:36a

01:15:36little

01:15:36bit

01:15:36it

01:15:37just

01:15:37it

01:15:38really

01:15:38spoke

01:15:38to

01:15:39the

01:15:39depths

01:15:39of

01:15:40what

01:15:40this

01:15:40person

01:15:40had

01:15:41done

01:15:41to

01:15:42her

01:15:46Chris

01:15:47got up

01:15:47there

01:15:47with

01:15:48his

01:15:49three

01:15:50pages

01:15:51of

01:15:52statement

01:15:52that he

01:15:53was ready

01:15:53to make

01:15:54I

01:15:55just

01:15:56remember

01:15:56thinking

01:15:57oh god

01:15:58I don't

01:15:58want to hear

01:15:58whatever

01:15:58you have

01:15:59to say

01:16:00I

01:16:01wish

01:16:01I

01:16:01could

01:16:01take

01:16:01it

01:16:02all

01:16:02back

01:16:02I

01:16:02can't

01:16:03I

01:16:04really

01:16:04can't

01:16:05obviously

01:16:05go

01:16:09I

01:16:10had a

01:16:10lot

01:16:11of

01:16:11wanted

01:16:11to say

01:16:12he

01:16:14tucked

01:16:15his

01:16:15three

01:16:15pages

01:16:16of

01:16:16speech

01:16:17away

01:16:17and

01:16:18just

01:16:19apologized

01:16:19to

01:16:21the

01:16:21people

01:16:22he

01:16:22hurt

01:16:22and

01:16:23then

01:16:24stood

01:16:25there

01:16:25and

01:16:25waited

01:16:26for

01:16:26his

01:16:26sentence

01:16:27So

01:16:28you

01:16:28do

01:16:28have

01:16:28that

01:16:29one

01:16:29prior

01:16:29missed

01:16:30in

01:16:30here

01:16:30you

01:16:30don't

01:16:31have

01:16:31a

01:16:31juvenile

01:16:31record

01:16:32you

01:16:32have

01:16:33a

01:16:33master's

01:16:33degree

01:16:34you're

01:16:34very

01:16:35well

01:16:35educated

01:16:35you had

01:16:36a good

01:16:37job

01:16:37this

01:16:37court

01:16:38itself

01:16:39has let

01:16:39me down

01:16:40before

01:16:41what if

01:16:42they

01:16:42only

01:16:43give

01:16:4420

01:16:4425

01:16:45years

01:16:46and

01:16:46then

01:16:47I

01:16:48need

01:16:48to

01:16:48move

01:16:48and

01:16:49go

01:16:49into

01:16:49hiding

01:16:49and

01:16:49change

01:16:50my

01:16:50name

01:16:50so

01:16:50that

01:16:51I

01:16:51feel

01:16:51safe

01:16:51please

01:16:52God

01:16:52don't

01:16:53let

01:16:53it

01:16:53be

01:16:53just

01:16:5420

01:16:54years

01:16:54because

01:16:5520

01:16:55years

01:16:55is

01:16:55nothing

01:16:56but

01:16:56this

01:16:56stalking

01:16:57behavior

01:16:58and

01:16:58obsessive

01:16:59behavior

01:16:59already

01:17:00happened

01:17:00in

01:17:01Big Rapids

01:17:01back

01:17:02in

01:17:022010

01:17:02you

01:17:04knew

01:17:04what

01:17:04the

01:17:05result

01:17:05of

01:17:05this

01:17:05kind

01:17:06of

01:17:06behavior

01:17:06would

01:17:06be

01:17:07and

01:17:08you

01:17:08continued

01:17:08to

01:17:09engage

01:17:09in

01:17:09it

01:17:10with

01:17:10a

01:17:10different

01:17:10person

01:17:11the

01:17:11judge

01:17:12said

01:17:13that

01:17:14he

01:17:14felt

01:17:15Christopher

01:17:16was

01:17:17not

01:17:17able

01:17:17to

01:17:18be

01:17:18rehabilitated

01:17:19even

01:17:19after

01:17:20you

01:17:20were

01:17:20sitting

01:17:20in

01:17:20jail

01:17:21you

01:17:22told

01:17:22your

01:17:22mother

01:17:22that

01:17:22nothing

01:17:23would

01:17:23have

01:17:24mattered

01:17:25that

01:17:25nothing

01:17:26would

01:17:26have

01:17:26stopped

01:17:26you

01:17:26from

01:17:27doing

01:17:27what

01:17:27you

01:17:27were

01:17:27going

01:17:27to

01:17:27do

01:17:32that's

01:17:32an

01:17:32extraordinary

01:17:33statement

01:17:33all of

01:17:34those

01:17:35things

01:17:35in

01:17:35concert

01:17:36lead

01:17:36me

01:17:36to

01:17:37believe

01:17:37that

01:17:37a

01:17:37sense

01:17:38within

01:17:38the

01:17:38guideline

01:17:38range

01:17:39is

01:17:39inappropriate

01:17:39the

01:17:40judge

01:17:41started

01:17:42talking

01:17:42about

01:17:43a

01:17:44reasonable

01:17:44life

01:17:45expectancy

01:17:46for

01:17:47someone

01:17:47Christopher

01:17:48Thomas'

01:17:48age

01:17:49and

01:17:50that's

01:17:50when

01:17:50we

01:17:51got

01:17:51really

01:17:51excited

01:17:52with

01:17:52regard

01:17:52to

01:17:52count

01:17:53one

01:17:53kidnapping

01:17:54you

01:17:54will

01:17:54serve

01:17:5540

01:17:55to

01:17:5560

01:17:56years

01:17:56in

01:17:56the

01:17:56Michigan

01:17:57Department

01:17:57of

01:17:57Corrections

01:17:58at the

01:17:58time of

01:17:58sentencing

01:17:59Christopher

01:17:59Thomas was

01:18:0039 years

01:18:01old

01:18:01and

01:18:02Judge

01:18:03Elzenheimer

01:18:03gave him

01:18:0440 to 60

01:18:04years

01:18:05so he's

01:18:05going to be

01:18:06almost 80

01:18:06before he even

01:18:07has a chance

01:18:08of getting out

01:18:09of prison

01:18:10if

01:18:10somehow

01:18:11you are

01:18:11released

01:18:12at some

01:18:13point

01:18:13in your

01:18:13future

01:18:15then

01:18:15it is

01:18:16a requirement

01:18:16that you

01:18:17will

01:18:17have

01:18:18a

01:18:18lifetime

01:18:19GPS

01:18:20so that

01:18:21you will

01:18:22know

01:18:22where you

01:18:22are

01:18:23all the

01:18:23time

01:18:24for the

01:18:24rest

01:18:24of your

01:18:24days

01:18:25the

01:18:25judge

01:18:25is

01:18:26nice

01:18:26little

01:18:26piece

01:18:27of

01:18:27and if

01:18:28you

01:18:28get

01:18:28out

01:18:28you

01:18:28got

01:18:28to

01:18:28wear

01:18:29an

01:18:29ankle

01:18:29monitor

01:18:29the

01:18:29rest

01:18:30of

01:18:30your

01:18:30life

01:18:30it's

01:18:31like

01:18:31okay

01:18:32you

01:18:32know

01:18:32thank

01:18:33you

01:18:34Christopher

01:18:34is in

01:18:34a place

01:18:35where

01:18:36the worst

01:18:37of the

01:18:37worst

01:18:38people

01:18:38are

01:18:38and

01:18:39he

01:18:40needs

01:18:40to be

01:18:40there

01:18:42to do

01:18:42something

01:18:43like that

01:18:43to another

01:18:44human being

01:18:44I just

01:18:45don't

01:18:45understand

01:18:45it

01:18:47it was

01:18:48a little

01:18:48difficult

01:18:48to watch

01:18:49but I

01:18:49just remember

01:18:50being really

01:18:50proud of

01:18:50her for

01:18:51doing

01:18:51that

01:18:51I'm

01:18:52very proud

01:18:53of her

01:18:55sorry

01:19:02justice

01:19:02is a

01:19:03funny

01:19:03thing

01:19:03it

01:19:05doesn't

01:19:06necessarily

01:19:06come

01:19:07in the

01:19:07form

01:19:08of

01:19:08prison

01:19:09years

01:19:10I

01:19:11can't

01:19:11ever

01:19:12go

01:19:12back

01:19:12to

01:19:14before

01:19:15I

01:19:15was

01:19:16kidnapped

01:19:19and

01:19:20that's

01:19:21something

01:19:21I had

01:19:22to grieve

01:19:24are you

01:19:25ready

01:19:25yeah

01:19:27but

01:19:27knowing

01:19:28that I'm

01:19:28finally

01:19:29turning

01:19:29the page

01:19:30of this

01:19:40and that

01:19:41I should

01:19:42feel safe

01:19:43with him

01:19:44off the

01:19:44street

01:19:44and that

01:19:45I'm

01:19:45protected

01:19:51meant a lot

01:19:52I felt

01:19:53free

01:20:05and that is our program for tonight

01:20:07thanks so much for watching

01:20:08I'm David Muir

01:20:09and I'm Debra Roberts

01:20:10from all of us here at 2020

01:20:12and ABC News

01:20:13goodnight

01:20:53and I'll see you next time

01:20:53next time

01:20:53on

01:20:53you

01:20:53You

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