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00:00Hello everyone and welcome back to this week's episode of Star Rants. We are your hosts Sean
00:07Ferrick of Trek Culture and my good friend CJ Allen of WhatCulture Star Wars. How are you this
00:13week sir? I'm good. I've been enjoying all of these rants. People love to rant and what's even worse
00:19is we love to read and rant about them as well. We've got some good conversations out of this
00:28as well so so like that's that's part of the thing I'm enjoying so thank you everyone who is leaving
00:33comments who is engaging this has been a wild few weeks. Before we jump into this week's rants here's
00:42our title. So this is Amy Myers 5503. Thank you Amy. I'm assuming that's your first name. As a lifelong
01:05fan of both franchises I think Trek offers better ideologies. It took me more than 30 years to
01:13realize do or do not I feel like I should do that in Yoda's voice. Do or do not there
01:20is no try
01:22was fundamentally bad advice. How many fans live by Yoda's aphorism? There is no room for trial and
01:31error and improvement in black and white thinking. Yoda failed Luke. Look at the results in The Last
01:37Jedi. Luke was literally hiding from the rest of the galaxy because he failed. What would Spock or Picard
01:45teach Luke about learning a new skill? Get up and do it again until you can do it or find
01:51another way to
01:52do it. Then there's the issue of Jedi rejecting people because they sense too much fear in them.
01:59Why not teach healthy coping skills to younglings and Padawans? Fear can be a useful emotion.
02:06In June and I apologize if I say this wrong because I've not watched anything June wise. The being
02:13Gesserit have the litany against fear which teaches you to allow the fear to pass over and through you.
02:19What do the Jedi teach about overcoming fear? Fear is bad. Don't feel it. You're bad for feeling fear.
02:26Another failed teaching. What would Spock or Picard teach Anakin about fear? Apply logic. Feel the
02:34feelings but don't allow them to take over. Brilliant rants.
02:40That is fantastic. Amy thank you very much for sharing that one. I was you saw me I was just
02:46nodding
02:46along. We didn't see you nodding. That's all right. I saw me um and um although they're just just one
02:56thing really really quickly you haven't seen anything from Dune? I have not watched the 90s one since
03:02I was like 15 16. I've not watched any of the new Dune's. I'm waiting till the trilogy's out.
03:10I tried I tried watching the new one and I got like 15 20 minutes in and I just don't
03:16think I was in the
03:16mindset for watching this huge drawn out sci-fi story so I was kind of like I'm not in the
03:25mindset
03:25for this I'll end up hating it and if I'm ever in that mindset I would rather stop watching something
03:31than then have a negative opinion of it. You know when you've got to be like in the right mood
03:36to watch
03:36it like you know when you spend half an hour scrolling through Netflix looking for the right
03:39thing. Oh yes. I know Dune is a huge huge amazing amazing story. I know bits of it and everything
03:47like that but I've got to be in the right mindset for that type of movie because it is a
03:53one where
03:54you need to pay attention and now I know the trilogy's coming out I'm going to be like I'm just
03:59going to watch the trilogy and then appreciate the whole story rather than having these big gaps but
04:05yeah sorry I'm a bad sci-fi nerd but. That just means that you're on your journey. We'll just say
04:13that you're on your journey of it. It's funny right because on the surface Yoda's advice can be
04:24like you know you know pull yourself up by the bootstraps and just keep you know keep going but
04:31you know only a Sith deals in absolutes. And there is there is great example I mean Amy
04:40specifically name-dropped both Spock and Picard there and there's a couple of quotes straight away
04:45like Spock logic is the beginning of wisdom not the end feels very like for a Vulcan to say that
04:52feels like we don't we're not just going to have one answer it's not just a case of your human
04:58side
04:58is showing. And then Picard it is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose that is not failure that
05:08is life you know and I would agree I think and I hope I hope Amy I hope you won't
05:18want me saying
05:18this I think it speaks to and I'm saying this as a lifelong Trekkie so I mean no disrespect if
05:26this
05:26comes across like but I think Star Trek has always sat more in the philosophical side of things where
05:33I think Star Wars has sat more in for want of a better word the fun side of things and
05:39I think
05:40it's easier in the fun side of things to kind of give a sort of a statement um and like
05:45you know
05:45in the same way that you know kind of ah we'll do this and it'll be great and it'll go
05:49this way
05:50whereas you know in the more philosophical side we can sit down part of the joke of Star Trek is
05:56we
05:56sit down we have a cup of tea we talk about everything. There's time that in Star Trek though
06:00like yes we have the movies but Star Trek is mainly TV you have the time to spend 20 minutes
06:08developing this one character to then move that on to future things. In the movies you have an hour and
06:15a
06:15half to introduce these characters get your point across get to the next thing whereas in TV shows
06:20you've got the 22 epic well in the old days you'd have the 22 episodes to really bring out the
06:29story
06:29if the networks will allow you to have enough episodes to do that run for another day um so you
06:37have time to draw out these characters show their journey in movies you've gone hour and a half to get
06:42this character from feeling point a to the realization and feelings they have by point b
06:47yeah yes I think that I think that's very very fair and and one of the reasons that you know
06:55when
06:55you compare A New Hope with Star Trek the motion picture because they're you know there's only two
07:00years between them and they are such different films and look I with all of my heart I love the
07:09motion
07:10picture but I know what I'm getting myself in for when I sit down to watch the motion picture I
07:15know
07:15it is a slow film that is as much about showing what we can do with special effects in 1979
07:22as it is
07:24about the plot which again I say that would love is a single episodes plot stretched out over two hours
07:31and 20 yeah and whereas Star Wars it came it comes out swinging you know and it's about excitement and
07:40it's about adventure and it's not that we never have anything more than surface discussions we do
07:46in Star Wars but it's always I think I'm going to badly remember some of my writing classes now from
07:54from uni where you know it's it's it's the fired arrow you know and it's it's about getting getting
08:01the and it's about does it service the plot and is the plot moving forward and that's Star Wars you
08:08know whereas Star Trek is we've kind of thrown the arrow a little bit you know and we're specifically
08:13talking about the motion picture someone's carrying the arrow they've run out the castle and they're
08:17carrying the arrow dodging around different things to try and get it into the target yeah a little bit
08:22yeah yeah um and and I think the way that both are written service those ways of telling stories
08:30so when you have something like m am I right in saying that quote from you that's empire
08:40yes I believe so I might be wrong someone will correct me that that that that is very true in
08:46fact
08:46you know what while you are composing your race it is empire because that's I remember it's
08:52when they're trying to get the x-wing out of the swamp I just had to go through the like
08:56literally
08:56I've just played the entire movie in my head from start to finish what conversations that having
09:01it is to do with the x-wing coming out yes I remember now we are recording this early on
09:08a bank holiday
09:09morning this is this is true this is true you know this is a strong coffee I mean I'm on
09:17coffee you're
09:17on water I don't know how you're getting through this I have me on caffeine is a bad idea bad
09:23bad idea
09:24bad idea you've enough energy anyway exactly in fact tote it down um I think yeah sort of to summarize
09:32a
09:33little bit I I do I I very much agree with Amy here um I think that it's not a
09:40great lesson
09:42and I think my caveat with that would be I think it's a lesson that fits the style of that
09:48story
09:48being told you know if it was if empire was a 22 episode season I think that Yoda's point would
09:59start
09:59with do or do not there is no try and let's sit down and have a chat about it um
10:05which is I think
10:05that's how it might come across in like the next generation where you had all those episodes to tell
10:12the story or the original series where you had all those episodes to tell the story um it's really
10:18interesting when you when you put them side by side like that like even if you just look at the
10:22Jedi
10:23in general I'm a strong believer in the Jedi got too complacent they got used to we can do no
10:29wrong
10:30and that's what led to their downfall because there was no balance they were you can only do this
10:38whereas I'm kind of in the I think you need the gray Jedis the ones that kind of have the
10:44emotions
10:45like Cal Kestis in the games Jedi survivor dabbles in that and I think it makes him a better Jedi
10:51he still is focused on the good but he lets his emotions help drive that forward we had Ray
10:58dabbling a little bit in the gray as well which I think would have made her a better Jedi like
11:04let's
11:04not talk about sequels because we will get some rants in the comments yes we will but I feel like
11:09the gray is the right area that is balance they talk about you need balance in the force you have
11:16to
11:16have light and dark to have balance I I I oh just just really quickly on that like because you
11:24know the way
11:24that I mean that gag of George Lucas going how do the good guys and the bad guys well the
11:30good guys
11:30have the blue lightsabers the bad guys have the red lightsabers you know and then you have
11:34Mace Windu with a purple lightsaber going does that mean that he has found that balance you know
11:41that's just Samuel L Jackson being Samuel L Jackson that is a totally different Samuel L Jackson is
11:46accepted in the Jedi universe as being Samuel L Jackson no one's gonna argue with that mofo yeah
11:56yeah I love that I don't know if you've seen the BTS um of him where he says can I
12:02have a purple one
12:03and George's like we can look at that and like Sam and Jackson goes
12:07like that's brilliant like he just asks for it and George is like I will give Samuel L Jackson
12:13whatever he wants and damn right no 100% also Joe it's scary like so so 1999 is Phantom Menace
12:23that's
12:23what five years after Pulp Fiction time is scary yeah when did Pulp Fiction let's let's do our homework
12:32guys I think what I thought I think is it 94 maybe it's later I remember watching Pulp Fiction
12:39before the Phantom Menace um it is 1994 well done one point for Sean ding ding
12:46yeah I remember watching Pulp Fiction when it around the not at the cinema but when it first
12:53came out in VHS I had the VHS for it okay I'm gonna say right now you were not old
12:59enough to be
12:59watching Pulp Fiction yeah but I watched it like my granddad turned around to me when I was like
13:07five or six and went do you want to watch a fun movie with flying toys it was Poltergeist
13:15yeah your granddad is a legend I'm just gonna throw that out there I blame him for my sick and
13:21twisted um humor because he's the one that got me watching Red Dwarf on BBC 2 I was only about
13:29six or
13:29seven I hear that mean um he had me watching Red Dwarf
13:38was he a smeg head you how dare you say that about my granddad um but yes um so god
13:47if my parents
13:47have I found out used to let me watch that sort of stuff with him but he's the reason why
13:52I have
13:53such a sick twisted sense of humor and we are incredibly grateful for that we are indeed I
13:58think it's time to move on we could talk about some of these rants and please let us know your
14:02feelings in the comments about the rants as well do you agree with some of these rants or do you
14:07not
14:07agree with the rants let us know your feelings wouldn't it be good to do an episode where we talk
14:11about people's rants about the rants yes yes very much so um because half the fun of what we get
14:19to
14:19do is seeing how people feel about it and how people feel about each other and respectful I will
14:25say that now keep keep it respect we we everything is welcome as long as you keep it respectful that's
14:30all I'll ask yeah it's an opinion until you make it hateful so don't get hateful um Sean I believe
14:37it's your turn to read us a rant would you like to share our next rant please
14:44Pavel Pashtushka which is an amazing name what can I say I loathe about Star Trek
14:50that the Starfleet command has been consistently adopting ridiculous yeah okay right this one is for
14:55me right that the Starfleet command has been consistently adopting ridiculous uniform patterns
15:01for 150 plus years the only time when they gave their crewman something remotely sensible to wear
15:06was the 2150s the navy blue uniforms patterns after aviators suit only to make those poor lads
15:13and lasses wear pajamas instead at some point in the next 80 years or so then in the mid to
15:19late 23rd
15:20century they reverted to something that would have looked very much more at home aboard the HMS
15:25Temeraar at Trafalgar I hope I pronounced that correctly and then switched back to a particularly
15:31infamous variation of the pajama pattern in the early 24th century by infamous I mean the behind
15:37the scenes stories of the costumes being actually atrociously uncomfortable I know exactly what
15:40you're talking about that have been evolved upon throughout the late 24th century seriously who in
15:45the world could possibly have surmised that it would be a jolly good idea for the crewmen of a starship
15:50who frequently find themselves in fights hazardous environments never mind just doing the work on the
15:54ship itself to wear something that a is horribly uncomfortable b has no pockets and comes with
16:00neither carry harness nor even a chunky belt for equipment and c appears to be rather fragile and
16:05or prone to getting caught on something now that I think the napoleonic pattern from the late 23rd century
16:11as silly as it was was ironically the second most sensible after the aviator suit pattern from
16:17enterprise I think this was one where they knew I would pick up on this because I am obsessed with
16:25the uniforms from star trek okay I'm gonna ask you a question based on these uniforms did the guys have
16:32to wear dance belts as part of their uniform because I've been to many comic cons around spider-men
16:38costumers and some of them do not wear particular underwear where it hides the little
16:46voyager as it were in their outfit were dance belts part of the star trek uniform to hide
16:55do I know for a fact no but I think the first two seasons of the next generation people talk
17:04about
17:04the the spandex the onesies that they wore going into the next generation I think something must have
17:11been used because when I compare those to the uniforms from the motion picture in 1979
17:19definitely some people were not wearing dance belts and it's very noticeable in some scenes
17:28of that movie that you're like you could have talked is what I'll say about that but I think
17:36what analysis have you done on how much is shown shown you seem very um knowledgeable of which ones
17:43were showing I've seen things you people wouldn't believe oh I can believe it I can believe it
17:50sorry no go on go on um I do what funnily enough in terms of just functionality uh Pavel's nailed
17:59it
18:00the enterprise era junk suits and while they're not my favorite because I you know I like the
18:06multi-color they do have division piping don't get me wrong but I do like the more multi-colored
18:11uniforms that we got as we went along and I am on the record of saying how much I love
18:16the monster
18:17maroons from wrath of Khan sort of onwards that encapsulate the sort of the late 23rd into the lost
18:23era um but yeah functionality I think it's enterprise I mean they're covered in pockets
18:29so you're never going to be stuck for where can I put my phaser where can I put my tricorder
18:33whereas yeah when you go in particularly the original series they were at least you would see
18:39when they beam down anywhere they get an equipment belt so at least there's something there next gen
18:44you have holsters that sort of magically appear and disappear as the situation requires and that's
18:50true of ds9 and voyager as well um and then as we go forward and you can cgi suits to
18:58appear out of
18:58everything it kind of becomes a little bit like oh discovery had this but then they lost it going into
19:02anyway um but I think it's the wider gag for me there is that the starfleet quartermaster
19:16daily designs new uniforms to disseminate out throughout the fleet because like in something
19:22like lower decks you have different ships wearing different uniforms you know like next gen you have
19:27okay star bases will wear one whereas star ships will wear another that's fine you know that's kind
19:32of logical yeah I like it when lower decks it's like you know what this ship where's that and that
19:36ship where's that and that ship where's that and that star base where's that let's go I love that show
19:40I know it's just lower decks was a gift it was just a gift to trekkies everywhere uh and between
19:47holodeck episodes and you know what ifs and flashbacks and everything I'm pretty sure every single
19:55iteration of star trek is shown love in that show which I just love because it was made by fans
20:04totally obvious it was made by fans that don't mind poking a bit of fun at the series exactly
20:11exactly 100 percent um but yeah so what so in terms then I know that this is definitely a a
20:18star trek
20:20focused rant but what do you think about the sort of because one thing I think about star wars
20:26is it's very consistent uh I think like you know you you could like glance at a you know a
20:33still from a
20:33star wars project and know it's from star wars um and I think that's true of both the uniforms and
20:38then the overall aesthetic as well so like in what do you think of like you know the this kind
20:43of the
20:43frenetic changing of uniforms in star trek versus the fairly standard in star wars I mean pebbles
20:48brought up a very good point in the whole they're going on these like the whole point is to explore
20:53new
20:54worlds so they're landing on these new worlds that could have any sort of bacteria viruses all of that
21:01sort of stuff the amount of times they beam on the planets and they're not actually wearing any sort of
21:05masks or anything yes they might have an oxygen count but you could be breathing in any sort of
21:11bacteria it could be attached into there or even just protection like some sort of armor or protective
21:19shielding from other types of blasts and fires and all that sort of stuff no let's wear the tight
21:26fitted spandex spandex spandex like we don't see people going at the war zones here imagine in a war
21:33zone here running out in spandex it's fine I'm in spandex I'm safe we don't we wear protective armor
21:39like if I was working on the enterprise or discovery and went okay CJ we want you to go to
21:46this brand new
21:47planet please just wear your spandex outfit I'd be like hell no give me armor give me a space suit
21:53give me
21:54some sort of protection use go down in your little dance belt that goes right up your jacksy
21:59I will I want the full kitten caboodle armor protection shield give me it all use the money
22:07that you would have spent on spandex to develop portable shields you would save so much more money
22:14done but no let's wear the tight fitted spandex I'd look good in tight fitted spandex don't get me wrong
22:21but I believe the armor
22:25I've sent you those photos haven't I anyway moving on
22:31you're you're grand the cameras I installed got that and if that isn't a social media clip I don't
22:35know what is
22:39sometimes it's sometimes you can tell when a social media clip has been like really structured to be a
22:43social media clip others are just like I shouldn't let him talk yeah I shouldn't have said that
22:50too late um I mean I think you nailed it like Star Trek I love the multi-colored run through
22:58of the
22:58wardrobes practicality not in the slightest um and I think because I think um I'm gonna show off my
23:06my knowledge here so William Wertheis who designed the original series uh uniforms came back to do
23:13season one of the next generation and it was I think it was Robert Blackman then who took over for
23:20the now like I do think that if I said like oh the next generation people they might picture Robert
23:26Blackman's uniforms sooner than they picture those season one uniforms because they're much more
23:32functional um they're uh they're a two-piece as opposed to a one piece and they're from season
23:39three to season seven that's the uniforms they used uh I have done I won't say too much reading
23:46on the design of the uniforms for Star Trek because I don't think you can do too much reading on
23:50the
23:51designs of the uniforms for Star Trek because I love them and they're brilliant I'm really glad we got
23:56to talk about this Pavel thank you for your rant I have one important question to ask and then we
24:00will
24:00move on um how many times do you think Riker split his pants doing the Riker
24:07I would say if we were to average it up 26 episodes a season uh we'll say yeah all seven
24:13seasons uh I'm gonna say a higher percentage in the first two seasons because of the one piece
24:20I'm gonna say 2,960 I have no idea that's an important question though yeah it is one that only
24:29Jonathan Frakes can truly answer if any of us get to speak to Jonathan Frakes I'm gonna ask that
24:36I need to get him to a comic-con I need to interview him and ask him that question
24:41that is my life goal now it's it's it's I mean 100% it's good it's good to have goals
24:47it's good
24:47he's still so tall and so cool CJ you've been such a wonderful fun and giving friend so I'd like
24:57to
24:57ask you this do you fancy a quickie am I giving or getting though let's find out
25:07so Kelly Cashin2404 has said honestly for both of them the overly loud toxic corner of their fandoms
25:15that took all the energy out of the room and give the rest of us a bad name I thought
25:21was a bigger
25:21issue for the Star Wars community than the Trek community but then Academy proved me wrong
25:29fandoms a fickle thing my friend
25:32mm-hmm yeah like it it it is I think as the increased
25:43monetization of reaction and I mean listen hand in the air you know it's part of what we do
25:51oh I just you know yes I'm gonna say this we just engage with good faith which makes us different
25:58um but there is an industry in monetizing extreme reactions both positive and negative and that of
26:06course bleeds into the overall discourse um this commenter absolutely nail on the head now we saw it
26:13with Discovery we saw it with some of Picard some of Strange New Worlds but then oh my god with
26:19Academy
26:21yeah and just look on the Star Wars side as well the sequels the prequels the prequels were hated
26:26and now that generation has grew up and went actually the prequels were all right and the
26:32prequels were all right I'm not a big fan of some of the prequel things I'm not a big fan
26:36of some of
26:36the sequel ones but it's that line between being critical and fair and just going straight for the
26:43unfortunately we live in a clickbait world let's be fair the thumbnails on YouTube they are clickbaity
26:51on purpose because that is the generation we have to live in this is the only way that people will
26:58get
26:58in the videos you're more likely click on something that'll go oh why are they that way than going
27:02that's just a conversation that that's unfortunately the way the world is but it's how you conduct
27:09yourself you can hate something but you don't have to spread hate yeah as much maybe as the way you
27:18can kind of look at it yes be critical explain your points but explain it in a polite not positive
27:25way
27:25what's the word I'm looking for um like a sensible polite manner I could rant about the acolyte
27:32but I'd still look for the good within it as well don't just hate on something for hate and I
27:37just
27:37the I'm sorry this is my rant I hate comments that are just like I hate the sequels I hate
27:44discovery
27:45but no explanation why have you even watched them most the people that are saying I hate this
27:52probably haven't even watched the new episodes they've watched the first one they've hated it
27:57and then they hate the rest of the series when actually there might be episodes that you enjoy
28:02because they're slightly different and it impacts on the fandom it impacts on how the shows and
28:09everything move forward sorry Sean I've ran it there go on no I mean I just I I agree and
28:14the amount of
28:15comments I saw I watched the first 10 minutes of Academy and thought I hate this and turned it off
28:19I'm
28:19like so you haven't watched Academy you know and I'm not trying to sound patronizing and I'm not
28:32myself going like Sean you have slipped into a little bit of maybe you know lumping everyone
28:37in together and and I I do I do take ownership of that and you know I I appreciate that
28:43kind of
28:43feedback um so I think when I say you've only watched 10 minutes of something you haven't watched
28:51it I mean like if it was a 10 minute short then you've watched it sure but if it's 10
28:57out of 50 minutes
28:59you know at least watch an episode at least give it that and then sure I mean obviously then we've
29:06talked before and I won't go on about it here uh the the example I always use season one of
29:10the
29:10next generation took a long time to find its feet and it became one of the greatest sci-fi shows
29:14ever
29:14made you know um so that's why I feel like if you've only watched a few minutes of something
29:22you haven't watched it so I I would argue you don't hate it you just didn't like what you saw
29:29which is fair you're allowed to not like you know what you see oh my god like no one can
29:34say
29:34otherwise um but if you're gonna give something the energy of hating it at least watch the whole thing
29:40yeah well I'll still do the rule of three I will watch three episodes of a show
29:45and if I haven't enjoyed it by the third episode I can say this isn't for me the pilot episode
29:52of any
29:52show is always an kind of outlier because they make this pilot then it is reviewed by the tv networks
30:01and things and then they say yes or no based on the pilot that's why a lot of pilots also
30:05have
30:06reshoots and you'll hear there's been two pilots the one with the original cast and original story
30:11and then a second pilot where they've changed things around sometimes tv shows don't redo that
30:16pilot but then the series takes a totally different direction um one example uh watch the rookie
30:23and they had this dynamic between the two main characters the main female and main character Nathan
30:30Fillion and uh the character was called Lucy Chen where they were in a relationship and there was a bit
30:35of an age gap between them and as by the third episode they started going actually this is
30:41isn't the relationship we want and they just totally scrapped it they broke up and then they never
30:47mention it again in the six seven seasons like it's not even brought up because the show's finding its
30:53direction the working with the cast the chemistry chemistry takes time yes and I feel like by the third
31:01episode if you're not feeling it you can go you know what I gave it three hours I didn't enjoy
31:05but at least
31:06I gave it those three hours there's been shows where I've gave it three hours I haven't enjoyed
31:11it I've put it aside and then everyone's saying this is the best show it really gets good from like
31:17episode five out of 22 remember there's 22 episodes in the season and people say by episode five you'll
31:22be hooked then I'll give it another chance and then sometimes I'm like no I don't like it it's not
31:30for me
31:31but I don't go on the internet and go I hate that this is the worst thing ever because there
31:35are
31:35people that are enjoying it let people enjoy the stuff they enjoy it doesn't harm me not watching it
31:41it doesn't make my life worse it's not ruining anything if anything you let's just say the acolyte
31:50okay not many people enjoyed the acolyte if the acolyte continued I probably would have watched it I
31:55wouldn't have enjoyed it but I would have watched it but if it's bringing people into the star wars
31:59universe then it's only good it's bringing in money Disney go oh we can make more shows people
32:05and join these it can only help the fandom
32:11yeah I think I think overall that sounds very very fair and I hate that
32:17yeah that's a probably a good way to end it it's fair but we hate it what a way to
32:23end the episode
32:24it's fair but we hate it but you don't hate this this is a good show you like star rants
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32:54is there anything more to say um Sean I think we're I was gonna say everyone who engages with this
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33:09it's true feed into my hate
33:16but yeah let's end it there
33:19and you you always end it first in our feed-ins let's keep that routine going of how we end
33:24it
33:24so we have that consistency so I'm gonna hand it over to Sean
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