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00:00In my opinion, Brazil isn't the favorite, but I think that could be good for them.
00:06Brazil.
00:07Neymar attracts a lot of attention, he's a different kind of player, an exceptional player, and once again the leader of this generation.
00:14So it will attract attention on its own.
00:17But when I see Neymar playing, I think he's a leader when he's playing.
00:22I don't know how he would behave being alone in the group, participating from the outside.
00:28Hey everyone tuned in to the action, welcome to Voices of the World Cup!
00:33The series that takes you to World Cup broadcasts from the United States, Mexico, and Canada.
00:38And look, today I have a very special guest.
00:43We started with commentators, reporters, and journalists who will be broadcasting this tournament, which is so eagerly awaited by Brazilians.
00:52But today I brought here for you the five-time world champion in 2002, Juninho Paulista,
00:58My friend, welcome! It's a great pleasure to speak with you in this year that's so special for us.
01:06Thanks, it's my pleasure to be participating.
01:09Well, I want to start by asking you something different.
01:13You were there as a coordinator at the 2022 World Cup, you were in the group that won the World Cup in
01:202002,
01:21And now you're going to be a commentator on SBT, is the anxiety similar for the World Cup?
01:31Oh man, it's much more relaxed now, isn't it?
01:34Not being involved in the process makes things much more peaceful.
01:39They're different emotions, right?
01:41When you're playing.
01:43I think it's an emotion that you control; you're participating, you're there on the field.
01:50You're used to it by now, right?
01:51We've been doing this my whole life.
01:54In terms of driving, it's a different kind of emotion; for me, I think it's a worse kind of emotion.
02:01Because you're left with that feeling of anxiety, you're not playing and then you're left on the sidelines.
02:07He remains hopeful of victory.
02:10I think the suffering is greater.
02:12But now, as a commentator as well, it's even easier, right?
02:16So, you're not in the process, we're talking about what happens in the game,
02:23We'll be rooting for everything to work out, but from a distance.
02:28Well, that jump that's going to be a hit, me too.
02:30Here, we don't need to play this biased character.
02:33Brazil is in the World Cup, and of course we're going to cheer them on.
02:36And I'm going to ask you about your expectations for this Brazilian team, right?
02:40It's a Brazil that arrives with little time in charge from Ancelotti,
02:44But he's a guy who has an imposing figure there,
02:47with some players who are on the rise in Europe, like Vinícius Júnior and Rafinha.
02:50Do you think it's possible to win this World Cup?
02:52Are you feeling optimistic?
02:54In my opinion, Brazil is not the favorite.
03:00To bring the cup.
03:03But I think this could be good for Brazil.
03:06Running as an outsider, I think there are other teams out there with more pressure to win.
03:15But Brazil arrives with a great representative, right?
03:18That's Ancelotti, with great, excellent players.
03:22And the Brazilian jersey, it's very heavy at a World Cup, isn't it?
03:26So, regardless of how Brazil fares,
03:29It will always be one of the possible teams to lift the trophy.
03:35So, we came in with that expectation, but we know that this can be reversed.
03:44Julinho, many people see Neymar as a guy who attracts trouble, who attracts controversy.
03:49But there are also people who see him as a guy who will derail this team.
03:53He'll take responsibility, even within Vechara.
03:57Technically, we know that it's different.
03:59But do you think that off the field, he can help the team, the group?
04:02Especially since there are a lot of boys, right?
04:04Like Henrique, like Rayan.
04:07Yeah, Neymar attracts a lot of attention, doesn't he?
04:11He's a different kind of player, he's an exceptional player.
04:17He's the leader again, of this generation.
04:19So, he'll attract attention on his own.
04:23When you're in a competition, in a World Cup,
04:28All you can think about is the World Cup, right?
04:31So, there's no other thought.
04:33So, I don't see how he could interfere in any other way, right?
04:40But I can see Neymar playing, right?
04:43I think he's a leader when he plays.
04:46I don't know how he would behave.
04:50being alone in the group, participating from the outside.
04:53I don't think that's his intention.
04:57And not from the coaching staff either, right?
04:59If they brought Neymar, it's really so they can take advantage of him on the field.
05:04And so, this Brazilian team arrives under a lot of pressure.
05:08Because Brazil hasn't won a title since 2002, right?
05:11It's been 24 years without a title.
05:13Just like it was in '94.
05:14Brazil hadn't won since 1970 and won in 1994.
05:17But back in '94 we had a short guy there called Romário.
05:20That solved most of the games, right?
05:23Of course, they also had a very talented team.
05:25a great commander.
05:26But whether you like it or not, Romário was the main protagonist of that World Cup.
05:30Of course Neymar can help.
05:32And we talked about how he can exercise that leadership role.
05:35But you see someone else besides him.
05:36Who can take on that responsibility on the field?
05:42Look, it's like this, I think a World Cup is won collectively.
05:49So, if the Brazilian team isn't strong,
05:54It's unlikely they'll have Romário, they might have Ronaldo, they might have Neymar.
06:01Nowadays, especially, a player can't win alone, right?
06:05So, I think that's it for now, right?
06:08We are collectively very strong.
06:13The player who is standing out in the clubs.
06:18There are two players, right?
06:19That they may also call upon responsibility.
06:22And they can be protagonists like Neymar, right?
06:25In the case of Rafinha and Vini Júnior.
06:28They are two players who, due to their talent
06:31and because of the responsibility he has towards the selection.
06:35He has been important to his clubs.
06:39So, we all hope that they will be important as well.
06:42in the Brazilian national team.
06:45I'm going to ask you something cool, Juninho.
06:48I don't know if many people know this.
06:49But Juninho was discovered by Ituano, right?
06:52He came from the youth ranks at Ituano.
06:54And now, at the 2022 World Cup,
06:57Yes, from 2026, it already happened in 2022.
06:59We're going to have Gabriel Martinelli.
07:00which is also revealed by Ituano.
07:02How do you see this thing?
07:04It's funny, isn't it?
07:05Ituano is cool.
07:05It's a club that has been developing many players.
07:07in recent years.
07:08But, man, to get to a World Cup,
07:10It's certainly very special for Ituano.
07:12And I wanted to know what that's like for you too.
07:15Wow, that's really special.
07:18I think it's the foundation of smaller clubs in the interior.
07:23It's the foundation, right?
07:24And to have a player like Martinelli, right?
07:28Already participating.
07:29This is the second World Cup he will be participating in.
07:33Premier League champion, right?
07:35With the opportunity to become a Champions League winner.
07:38So, it's very rewarding for the club, right?
07:42Ituano, seeing Martinelli in these conditions.
07:45Of course the club gave him the opportunity.
07:49But the credit practically belongs to the player.
07:52He earned it, he deserved it.
07:56He is a player with spectacular discipline.
08:01He's a real athlete.
08:03And I'm really rooting for him.
08:06First, because of competence, right?
08:09And I think he can help Brazil a lot in this World Cup.
08:15Legal.
08:16That's great to hear.
08:17We're also rooting for Martinelli in the World Cup.
08:20I hope he has a great championship.
08:23Juninho, a very controversial issue that has surrounded the Brazilian national team in recent years.
08:28The thing is, we have a lot of players who play for mid-sized clubs.
08:32Even on a smaller scale, like in European championships, right?
08:35We have Rayan at Barnum, and Igor Thiago at Brentford.
08:39And you, back in 2002, you were called up by Flamengo,
08:42But right after the World Cup, you go back to Mildersburg.
08:46where you are the greatest idol in the club's history.
08:48But it's also not a club with a major European profile.
08:52Back then, things were much better for me than they are now, right?
08:55It's in the Championship.
08:56But even so, it's not a major European club.
09:00And yet, you were still a world champion.
09:04He stopped helping the group.
09:05How do you view this controversy?
09:07Many people say that players from the Brazilian national team
09:10They cannot play for medium and small-sized European clubs.
09:13They can only play for Real Madrid, Barcelona, ​​or United.
09:15Do you think this has anything to do with it?
09:17Do they feel more pressure when they wear the Brazilian national team jersey?
09:20And how was that for you too?
09:26Things like that...
09:28We left Brazil with a very strong sense of identification, right?
09:34So, at the time, I was playing for São Paulo.
09:36So, we leave with this identification.
09:39I don't think the problem is that they're playing on teams.
09:44who are not the main players in Europe.
09:46Because the football market has changed a lot these days, right?
09:50So, these teams are also capable of bringing in players of that caliber, of that level.
09:58Now, I think that's more or less it.
10:01It's the lack of connection between these players and Brazil.
10:05Not exactly where they are playing.
10:08There's also the situation that, playing at a high level in Europe,
10:15Always reaching the finals, playing in the Champions League.
10:18I think that can add to the experience of those players playing there, yes.
10:25It's like being under pressure all the time, isn't it?
10:28To be able to win.
10:29I think that helps too.
10:31But I think that's secondary.
10:34I think the first one is the connection with Brazil.
10:37You want to be a protagonist and stand out in your clubs, right?
10:40Wherever you are.
10:43And then, yes, try to play at a high level.
10:46But it's difficult these days, isn't it?
10:48Because not all players on the national team will be in that situation, right?
10:53So, inevitably, there will be players present there.
11:00who are not such prominent figures in their clubs.
11:05Well, and you, besides being a five-time world champion in 2002,
11:09You were the technical coordinator for the Brazilian national team.
11:12at the 2022 World Cup, the last World Cup, there in Qatar.
11:15Looking at this list now, I wanted to know...
11:18Of the 26 names that were called,
11:20Okay, at the time there were only 23,
11:21But which group do you think will arrive more prepared?
11:24To win the World Cup?
11:26The 2022 team, which was eliminated in the quarterfinals by Croatia,
11:29Or is this the one that will compete in the 2026 World Cup?
11:38Theoretically, the group of 22.
11:41I think it's because of the preparation.
11:44So, he went through a whole cycle with one coach, right?
11:47Tite's time was very well organized.
11:52And very well done, right?
11:54Achieving great results on the field.
11:59But, in the end, we had that fateful match against Croatia.
12:06And we didn't go any further.
12:09So, football, sometimes, in the theoretical part,
12:14She doesn't count for much.
12:16But if you're going to make the comparison
12:19of all the problems we had
12:22In this cycle, right?
12:24Until Ancelotti arrived,
12:28CBF administration,
12:31choosing a coach to manage both club and national team
12:35In short, the whole mess that was created...
12:38on Edinaldo's part
12:43It wasn't a cycle.
12:45So well prepared.
12:47So, in theory,
12:49That 2022 team would have been in better shape.
12:52What do you think went wrong in that World Cup?
12:58Wow, that's tough, isn't it?
12:59We should look for the CIS, right?
13:02I, personally,
13:03if we play against Croatia
13:04Ten games, we're going to win all ten games, right?
13:07Especially considering how that game went.
13:11I think there were several situations.
13:13after our goal,
13:15because until we score the goal,
13:17I think it was a match.
13:19that we anticipated,
13:21right?
13:21Croatia defending itself,
13:22defending themselves well
13:23And Brazil is trying to break through this blockade.
13:26So, in the first half,
13:28they had greater control,
13:29in midfield,
13:30we weren't able to
13:32Take that ball away from Croatia.
13:33But not in the second half.
13:35It was practically an attack against the defense.
13:40Then, until Neymar made that play.
13:42and break through that Croatian blockade.
13:44I don't know if unconsciously
13:46He said, "Man, we already did it!"
13:49Our goal is...
13:52I don't know, but so many things happened.
13:54at the moment Croatia scored.
13:58Then, when Brazil went to penalties,
14:00We were already pretty broken.
14:01because of that goal
14:03Something no one expected.
14:05It's these details.
14:07I think football,
14:08especially during the World Cup,
14:10It can't have any flaws.
14:13Mistakes will hurt you.
14:16And they will punish you.
14:17Then,
14:19This failure happened in Brazil.
14:21at various times there
14:23of this move
14:24And how it flooded the Croatian goal.
14:26and in their ranking.
14:28Okay, now, Juninho,
14:29so we can wrap things up,
14:30Let's do an activity.
14:32I'm going to put you
14:33in a more difficult position.
14:34I guarantee you.
14:35that of commenting on SBT,
14:37to play there in 2002
14:39and to be a technical coordinator
14:41of the Brazilian National Team in 2022.
14:43The position now
14:43The one you're about to enter is more difficult.
14:45I want you
14:45Position yourself as Carlo Ancelotti,
14:49debut of the Brazilian National Team
14:50at the World Cup.
14:51What's your starting lineup, Juninho?
15:00That's easy, right?
15:03This one's easy.
15:06I'm going with Alisson.
15:09Then the center-back pairing,
15:10I don't think there's much of a secret to it.
15:11Marquinhos and Gabriel Magalhães.
15:16On the right side,
15:20I would start with Danilo.
15:23And on the left, Alexandre.
15:26There are two security guards there.
15:31on Ancelotti's part.
15:33In midfield, I would play with three men in the middle.
15:36I would play with Casemiro.
15:38Bruno Guimarães and Danilo.
15:42Neymar,
15:44I don't think it will be there.
15:45100% for this first game.
15:48perhaps.
15:49So, I would start with Vini Júnior,
15:51Rafinha.
15:52And I, personally,
15:56I wouldn't start with Matheus Cunha,
15:58But I think he's going to start.
15:59with Matheus Cunha.
16:00So, Rafinha,
16:02Vinícius Júnior and Matheus Cunha.
16:03What if Neymar were available?
16:05Would you put him in the starting lineup already?
16:08Neymar in place of Matheus.
16:10A false nine there, more or less?
16:13That.
16:13I think that's the position Ancelotti
16:16He is planning to play.
16:17Neymar,
16:19mainly because of his condition,
16:21He needs to play close to the penalty area.
16:22I think he'll be there.
16:23much more effective for Brazil
16:25than in any other position.
16:27Well, I noticed that you climbed.
16:29your selection
16:30with Vinícius Júnior,
16:32Rafinha and Matheus Cunha.
16:33If Neymar were available,
16:34You would put him there.
16:35You, who were a great number 10,
16:37selected his team
16:38without the number 10.
16:39Do you think you're lacking something?
16:40This player?
16:42It does not have.
16:42Has football changed?
16:44There's no such thing as a number 10.
16:46Only Neymar.
16:49I think Rodrigo
16:50I could perform that function.
16:52Unfortunately,
16:53He got hurt.
16:53I think I only see the two of them.
16:56Now, Neymar,
16:58Given his physical condition,
17:01I would work more.
17:03like a false 9
17:06more like a proper 10.
17:10And it strengthened men.
17:12midfielder
17:12to give that freedom
17:13for these three attackers
17:15They don't come back very often.
17:17Great job, Juninho!
17:18So, to conclude,
17:19I'm going to ask you
17:20send a message.
17:21You, five-time world champion,
17:22send a message to the players
17:24who will represent Brazil
17:25at the World Cup.
17:26Well, that's my message.
17:29it's more or less
17:30In line with Scolari,
17:32that Scolari said
17:32for the athletes,
17:34which is the question of union
17:36of one being there for the other.
17:39I think it's a short period.
17:40where there can be no flaws
17:43so that we can
17:44to bring this much-desired
17:46Hexa for Brazil again.
17:48So, there's a lot of unity involved.
17:51very focused
17:52and a lot of dedication
17:53during this period
17:54that you will be together
17:58and collectively
18:00We become very strong.
18:02so that it can appear
18:04individuality
18:05of our star players.
18:06Okay, thank you, Juninho.
18:08for your time,
18:09based on their experience.
18:10That was really cool.
18:11Let's discuss this idea with you.
18:13Well, now,
18:14on the field,
18:15Let's root for them!
18:16for the Brazilian National Team
18:17represent us
18:18as Juninho represented,
18:19that group from 2002.
18:21Thanks, guys!
18:22They connected on the play.
18:23to stay informed
18:24of everything that happens
18:25in the world of football
18:26it is clear,
18:26at the World Cup.
18:27Just follow the play.
18:28on YouTube,
18:29on social media
18:30And of course, on the website.
18:31A hug, thanks!
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