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00:00with upsetting accounts of alleged sexual misconduct.
00:12For decades, David Sullivan made millions.
00:16First in porn, then newspapers, then football.
00:20I like fun papers. I like looking at topless girls.
00:23I like reading about sport. What harm is that?
00:27Today, he's best known as an owner of West Ham United.
00:32People like David Sullivan, who have done everything they can
00:36in a way to carve out a grandish place within their society,
00:40they've done it on the backs of an exploitative situation.
00:45He's just stepped down as co-chair of the club.
00:50As Panorama and The Times report allegations
00:53that he abused his power for his own sexual gratification.
00:58He said he could put me in the paper,
01:02but he would need me to be one of his special friends.
01:07There are serious questions about his treatment of girls as young as 17.
01:12I just remember him being a very, I don't know what the word is,
01:19sleazy man.
01:21And allegations he was a sexual predator.
01:26He's untouchable.
01:28He's one of the most powerful men I know.
01:47These pictures are from my original portfolio.
01:50You know, talking about going from working in the city
01:52to being a page three model.
01:55It's very different to reinsurance broken.
01:57What were you like when these photographs were taken?
01:59I was a strong, independent, 24-year-old making my way in the world.
02:09Sasha Wall was working as an insurance broker
02:11when she met a photographer in a pub.
02:14They did a shoot and he sent some photos
02:17to the Sunday Sport newspaper, owned by David Sullivan.
02:21It was a mixture of bizarre, salacious articles and topless photos.
02:27Two weeks later, Sasha got a call.
02:32And I pick up and it's David Sullivan.
02:34I remember kind of being in shock.
02:37Oh, my God, it's the actual owner of the sport on the phone.
02:40And he said that he'd seen my pictures and he'd like to send me to his photographer
02:47to get some more pictures done.
02:49And would I like that?
02:51This was a total out-of-the-blue phone call.
02:54And I was like, yeah.
02:57I'm thinking that this is my route out of the general nine-to-five rat race corporate life
03:05and into something a little bit more exciting.
03:12Sasha signed with an agent.
03:15He set up a meeting with David Sullivan at his mansion in Essex.
03:20Why did you decide to go on your own to this meeting
03:23rather than with your agent or with a friend?
03:25Your agent doesn't go with you.
03:28It's a business meeting.
03:29You're not supposed to turn up on your mates.
03:32You know, it's as simple as that.
03:34What happens next?
03:36Wrong the buzzer.
03:37I was let in.
03:39And it was only when I got past that gate, I was like,
03:43oh, my God, where the hell am I?
03:47It's kind of like Buckingham House on steroids.
03:51Oh, my God, who lives here?
03:57Sasha says she was shown into the house by a member of staff
04:00and introduced to David Sullivan.
04:03I was completely shocked by what he was wearing.
04:06He was wearing flip-flops,
04:08a pair of scruffy old red jersey shorts
04:11and a white, whitish T-shirt.
04:15She says David Sullivan asked her to show him her modelling photos.
04:21So if you can imagine, he's flicking through my portfolio
04:23and then looking up at me and then looking down.
04:27And he was going, hmm, very nice, very nice, like this.
04:32It was starting to feel quite uncomfortable.
04:37Did you start to think at all about leaving at that stage?
04:41No.
04:43I did think about leaving for a brief second
04:47when he said next that he needed to see me properly
04:52and to follow him.
04:55Sasha says rather than leave, she went upstairs with him.
05:00Now, you probably think,
05:02why are you still walking at that point?
05:05But I knew where my exit route was
05:07and that if anything happened,
05:09I would scream and scream and scream, basically.
05:14And that was, yeah, it was a very conscious thought
05:17as he opened the door and led me into a bedroom.
05:24As I walked in, he showed me the en-suite
05:27and said, go and get changed.
05:30So I went into the en-suite in this bedroom
05:36and I took off my dress
05:39and walked out of the en-suite
05:41with my bra and knickers and my heels on.
05:44I'm kind of standing like that
05:46in my bra, in my underwear
05:53and he tells me to take off my bra.
05:56I was still going, right, OK,
05:59so he needs to see me in the flesh.
06:02This is my big break.
06:03If I can do this, I'll get the job.
06:08So I took off my bra.
06:11But when he asked me to come and sit next to him,
06:14I'm like, oh, what is going on?
06:17Like, that's not part of the job interview.
06:26So as I walk over, I put my bra back on
06:32and I sat as far away as I could get.
06:35He leaned over and said he could put me in the paper
06:44but he would need me to be one of his special friends.
06:47And I just turned around to him and went,
06:49if you think I'm going to sleep with you to get in the paper,
06:52you've got another thing coming.
06:57He looked very shocked as I said that
07:02and then said, what, not even a blowjob?
07:13Sasha says she decided she had to get out there and then.
07:19I go to the door and realise it's locked.
07:30Sasha says David Sullivan then let her out of the bedroom.
07:35She says before she ran out of the house,
07:38he shouted, you're going about it the hard way.
07:41She later appeared in the sport
07:43but says she was often given the worst jobs,
07:46including once on the paper's phone-in lines.
07:52She says she's never forgotten her meeting with the owner.
07:57I was never propositioned like that in any other way.
08:01It was, out of everything that happened,
08:04the most shocking to me.
08:08Sasha told Essex police in 2023
08:11what she says happened to her.
08:14Six months later,
08:15police told her they would be taking no further action.
08:24David Sullivan began his career in business
08:26more than 50 years ago,
08:28first building a porn empire.
08:31This is the private shop at Forest Gate in East London.
08:34There's no shop window,
08:35but equally no doubt what's on sale.
08:37We'll be fighting in the streets
08:40without children.
08:41The shop sold adult magazines.
08:45Play with me.
08:47He branched out into adult films
08:49and by the early 1980s,
08:52he was a millionaire.
08:54I just pushed the barriers
08:56to find out where they were
08:58and try and give the customer
09:00as close as I could give him
09:03while staying out of prison.
09:06But he didn't always stay
09:08on the right side of the law.
09:10In 1982,
09:11he was convicted of making money
09:13from prostitution.
09:17The reign of King Porn
09:19ended in a nine-month prison sentence.
09:22David Sullivan appealed
09:23and his sentence was reduced
09:25to less than three months.
09:26Once out of prison,
09:28the money kept rolling in.
09:32David Sullivan isn't just rich,
09:34he is very rich.
09:36Sullivan's million-pound mansion
09:37isn't short of home comforts.
09:39Mostly, though,
09:40he's alone to enjoy them.
09:43Then, in 1986,
09:44he launched the sport newspaper.
09:49Nick Cracknell worked with him
09:50there in the 1990s.
09:53Nice to see you, David.
09:54How are you?
09:55And they later became business partners.
09:58Do you want a cup of tea or anything?
09:59I'd love a cup of tea, David.
10:00Thank you very much indeed.
10:02Why do you think
10:03he set up the sport originally?
10:04What do you think
10:04was behind that idea?
10:05I think he thought
10:06he would make an absolute fortune.
10:08Plus, don't forget,
10:09it was a great way
10:10to advertise his chain
10:11of adult sex shops.
10:13He owned half of the
10:14top-shelf magazine market
10:16in the UK.
10:17Very heavily involved
10:18in things like tabletop dancing,
10:21very much involved in movies.
10:24As the profile of the sport grew,
10:26so did the profile
10:28of its publisher.
10:29David Sullivan was interviewed
10:31in magazines and papers,
10:33often about his own sex life.
10:36He said he'd slept
10:37with thousands of women.
10:39He was even quoted as saying,
10:42what's the point
10:42in owning a sweet shop
10:43if you can't eat a few sweets?
10:46It was a very much accepted
10:49and well-known fact
10:51that David slept
10:52with a lot of women
10:53and he was very open about that.
10:56But is there more to it
10:58than that?
10:59During this investigation,
11:01we've spoken to dozens
11:02of former models
11:03and other industry figures
11:05about David Sullivan.
11:07And we've interviewed
11:09seven women
11:09who accuse him
11:11of sexually exploitative
11:12and predatory behaviour.
11:24The 1990s
11:25saw the height
11:26of lads mag culture.
11:37magazines and tabloids
11:38were full of sexualised
11:39photos of women.
11:44The sport now had
11:46a new feature.
11:48Readers were teased
11:49with photos
11:50of partially clothed
11:51schoolgirls.
11:51And then,
11:53with much fanfare,
11:55their 16th birthdays
11:56were announced
11:56with the publication
11:58of topless photos.
12:01The Bolton beauty
12:03will go topless
12:03in just five days
12:05after she turns 16.
12:07She's received
12:08lots of fan mail
12:09since she first appeared.
12:11Rosie Boycott
12:12worked in newspapers
12:13in the 80s and 90s
12:15and was editor
12:16of the Daily Express.
12:18I can't understand
12:19how people can see anything.
12:22anything other than power
12:24when men,
12:25grown men,
12:26want to have sex
12:27with schoolgirls.
12:27I mean,
12:28what is it about?
12:29What is it?
12:29What can it be
12:30apart from power
12:31and a kind of sense
12:32of conquest?
12:34And an absolute,
12:36absolute not caring
12:37about the girl
12:38at all.
12:39I mean,
12:39they're selling them
12:40like cattle.
12:45It's very,
12:46very hard
12:47to put in
12:47the appropriate context
12:48something that was legal
12:49and socially acceptable
12:5030 years ago
12:51than we look at it today.
12:53Was that ever truly
12:54socially acceptable?
12:55Well,
12:56as I say,
12:56at the time,
12:58it was acceptable.
12:59I mean,
12:59I'm not sure everyone
13:00was happy about it,
13:01of course.
13:02Do you think
13:02the idea of counting down
13:0415-year-olds
13:04until they turn 16
13:05and then you'll picture them
13:06topless in the national newspaper,
13:08do you think that's appropriate?
13:11Do you think that's explicit?
13:11Well,
13:11now or then?
13:13Either.
13:13Well,
13:14I definitely don't think
13:14it's appropriate now
13:15because it's highly illegal.
13:17So I'm more than happy to say
13:19totally wrong
13:20to publish it now.
13:26Our investigation
13:27has found
13:28that David Sullivan
13:29used his status
13:30as the owner
13:31of the sport
13:31to meet teenage girls.
13:35One woman told us
13:36she took part
13:37in an audition
13:37for the paper
13:38as an 18-year-old.
13:40She says David Sullivan
13:41asked her to walk
13:42topless around his bedroom
13:44while he lay in bed.
13:47Separately,
13:47we can also reveal
13:48that David Sullivan
13:49has admitted
13:50that in the 1990s
13:51he paid for sex
13:52with a girl
13:53he says he believed
13:54to be 16 or 17 years old.
14:02David Sullivan
14:03sometimes went
14:04to competitions
14:05run by the sport
14:06featuring teenage girls.
14:08Some of them
14:09were held
14:09at this venue
14:10in Essex.
14:14We're calling
14:15this woman Anna.
14:16She appeared
14:17in the sport
14:18a month after
14:19her 17th birthday.
14:21She's one of two women
14:22in this film
14:22who want to remain anonymous
14:24and whose words
14:25are spoken by actors.
14:28Anna entered
14:29the Miss Sport competition.
14:32I wanted to be
14:33a Page 3 girl.
14:34It's something
14:35that I'd aspired
14:36to do for a while.
14:37I'm pretty sure
14:37it was my mum
14:38that saw the competition
14:39that they were running.
14:40It was literally
14:41just send your pictures
14:42into the daily sport.
14:44Like a number
14:45of the women
14:46we've spoken to
14:47for this investigation
14:48Anna says she was
14:49vulnerable
14:50when she met
14:50David Sullivan.
14:52When I was growing up
14:54at the time
14:55Page 3 was a big thing.
14:56I grew up
14:57in a very violent household,
14:59a very abusive dad
15:02and I don't know,
15:04I thought
15:05I could be
15:05a Page 3 model
15:06and be like Sam Fox
15:07and get loads of money
15:08and, you know,
15:10get my own house
15:10with my mum and stuff.
15:12That was kind of
15:13the reason
15:13as a child behind it.
15:19The newspaper
15:20invited Anna
15:21to an event
15:21at a nightclub.
15:23I remember going to
15:25Essex,
15:25quite a long taxi ride.
15:27Never been to anything
15:29like that before.
15:30Obviously,
15:31I was only a young girl.
15:33Very,
15:34very nice place,
15:35I suppose,
15:36or for a girl
15:37that's never seen
15:38anything like that,
15:39but I suppose
15:39it was very glamorous
15:41and stuff.
15:42My mum took me.
15:43I was chaperoned.
15:45She said she was
15:46introduced to David Sullivan.
15:48I was called to go
15:50and have a chat with him,
15:51sort of away from my mum.
15:54We were still in the same room.
15:56I just remember him
15:58being a very,
16:00I don't know
16:01what the word is,
16:03sleazy man.
16:04I can't remember
16:06the exact words
16:07because it was
16:07so long ago,
16:08but it was
16:10to give him
16:11oral sex,
16:13basically,
16:14and he could
16:16make me a star.
16:19Our investigation
16:20has found
16:21that David Sullivan
16:22had a reputation
16:23among some
16:24in the glamour modelling
16:25industry
16:25for offering work
16:26in his paper
16:27in return
16:28for sexual favours.
16:31After turning
16:32David Sullivan down,
16:33Anna says he then
16:34showed her
16:35around the nightclub.
16:36I remember him
16:38after that
16:39taking me through
16:40into the tabletop
16:40dancing park
16:41and that was
16:42sort of a
16:43bit of an eye-opener.
16:45It was quite rowdy.
16:47It was literally
16:49girls dancing on tables
16:50and just surrounded
16:52by lots and lots
16:53of men.
16:55and it was very
16:56touchy-feely
16:57and it was
16:58quite off-putting,
17:00to be honest,
17:00seeing that side of it.
17:07After meeting David Sullivan,
17:09Anna says she didn't enter
17:11another sport competition.
17:15I don't know.
17:16Maybe if my response
17:17had been different,
17:18then maybe it would
17:19have been a different
17:20scenario,
17:20or if I hadn't
17:22turned up with my mum.
17:23But I suppose
17:25I was a little bit
17:26protected with her
17:27being there,
17:27so I think it was
17:29a bit of a shock
17:30then when you
17:31get some old man
17:33that's,
17:34you know,
17:36wanting to make you
17:36famous and stuff.
17:38I suppose I was
17:39a bit naive
17:40to it all.
17:51At the end
17:52of the 1990s,
17:54David Sullivan
17:54was one of the
17:55richest men
17:56in the UK.
17:59By now,
18:00he was also
18:01one of the owners
18:01of a football club,
18:03Birmingham City.
18:05But the sport
18:06newspaper,
18:07now worth 200 million,
18:09remained important
18:10to his financial
18:10success.
18:13And another
18:14former model
18:14has told us
18:15how she came
18:16to meet David Sullivan
18:17because she thought
18:18he was going
18:18to help her career.
18:21She says their
18:22meeting was set up
18:23by the paper's
18:24then-editor.
18:25Tony Livesey
18:26has worked his
18:27way up from being
18:28one of Sullivan's
18:29reporters to his
18:30editor-in-chief.
18:31Tony Livesey
18:32worked at the sport
18:33throughout the 1990s.
18:36In his 1998 book
18:38about the newspapers,
18:39he wrote that
18:40together,
18:40he and David Sullivan
18:42had come up
18:42with the idea
18:43for the Countdown
18:44to 16 feature.
18:46Well, hello,
18:47I'm Tony Livesey.
18:47I present my own show.
18:48You all know that.
18:50After leaving the sport
18:51in 2006,
18:52he became a regular
18:53voice on the BBC.
18:55As you can see,
18:56home sweet home.
18:57He's been a presenter
18:58on Five Live
18:59for more than 15 years.
19:03A woman we're calling
19:05Florence,
19:05whose words are spoken
19:07by this actor,
19:08says she met
19:08Tony Livesey
19:09in 1999,
19:10aged 20,
19:11when she was working
19:12as a glamour model.
19:14She says she was
19:15introduced to him
19:15at the sport offices.
19:17I remember that
19:18Tony Livesey being,
19:20I didn't say excited
19:21is the right word,
19:22but like,
19:23oh my God,
19:24oh,
19:24the infamous,
19:25da-da-da-da-da,
19:26you know,
19:26very charming,
19:27very chatty,
19:28very,
19:29you know,
19:30woo!
19:32Florence says
19:32no sooner
19:33had she met
19:34Tony Livesey
19:34than he got
19:35on the phone
19:35to his boss,
19:36David Sullivan.
19:39He picked up
19:40a phone
19:40on this messy desk
19:43and called Sullivan.
19:44He went,
19:45oh,
19:45have you got
19:45your diary there?
19:46Just while he's
19:47on the phone.
19:48And so I got
19:48my diary out
19:49and he said,
19:51you know,
19:51can you do this day?
19:52And I was like,
19:53I can do that day.
19:54And he said,
19:55well,
19:55write it in.
19:56You're going to go
19:57and see David Sullivan.
20:00Florence noted
20:01in her diary
20:01that she met
20:02David Sullivan
20:03at his house
20:03eight days later.
20:06Tony Livesey
20:07didn't go with her,
20:08but she says
20:09her boyfriend did.
20:11So the gates open
20:13and we drive through
20:16and as we're driving down,
20:18sort of the driveway
20:19opens out
20:20into a big,
20:20kind of circular-like driveway.
20:24She says they went
20:25into the house
20:26and waited.
20:27She can't remember
20:28exactly where.
20:30Then Florence says
20:31she was taken
20:32on her own
20:33to David Sullivan's office.
20:35And he was
20:36sat at his desk
20:39and he didn't get up
20:40when I walked in.
20:41I did notice
20:42he was wearing
20:42the scruffiest track suit
20:44and I was really surprised
20:46because I'd made
20:46such an effort
20:48and I'd worn
20:49all my little heels
20:50and my business suit
20:52and it was
20:53such a beautiful house.
20:56Florence says David Sullivan
20:58asked her to strip down
20:59to her underwear
21:00in a bathroom.
21:04When she came out,
21:05she says he made clear
21:07what he wanted.
21:10I just remember him saying,
21:12well, you know,
21:13thank you for coming
21:14to see me today.
21:16I'll give you
21:16a little bit of work
21:17because you've taken
21:18the trouble
21:18but if you let me
21:20you then you'll be
21:21one of my regular girls.
21:23You'll be in
21:24all of the magazines.
21:26I can give you
21:27covers,
21:28I can give you
21:28centrefolds
21:29and you're
21:30one of my
21:31sport girls.
21:33and
21:34I was not
21:35expecting that.
21:37That was a curveball
21:39and I panicked
21:41and my first reaction
21:42was to say
21:43that my boyfriend's
21:44outside
21:45to which
21:46he replied,
21:47that's okay,
21:48we won't be disturbed
21:49and it'll only take
21:50a minute
21:51and he never has to know.
21:52I panicked
21:53and this is
21:54absolutely true.
21:56I said,
21:57but I'm on my period
21:58and this is the bit
22:00that will
22:01haunt me forever.
22:03He lifted
22:05his little pinky
22:06in the air,
22:07his little finger
22:08and he went,
22:09it's alright.
22:12She says
22:13he manoeuvred her
22:14into a bedroom
22:15and started
22:16to have sex with her.
22:17The door opened
22:18behind me.
22:19I don't know
22:20when he pulled
22:21his jogging bottoms
22:22down
22:22and penetrated me.
22:31Florence says
22:32she didn't want
22:32to have sex
22:33with David Sullivan
22:35but she can't be sure
22:36how she expressed it
22:37and whether he got
22:38the message.
22:40So I've been fighting
22:41with this
22:42for many,
22:42many years
22:43and so I don't know
22:45if that voice
22:45of doubt
22:46is just
22:47that
22:49in my heart
22:51I'm 99.9999%
22:53that I said
22:54I didn't say no
22:56I said
22:56I don't want to
22:58I don't want to
22:59but I don't know
23:00how loud
23:01I said that
23:03I don't know
23:04whether it was
23:04a whisper
23:04I do
23:05it wasn't a scream
23:07I was in pure
23:08panic mode
23:09by this point
23:11this is not
23:12going the way
23:12I want it to go
23:13this is supposed
23:14to be a business
23:14meeting
23:15where I come in
23:16I show you
23:17pretty pictures
23:18you give me some work
23:19and I go away again
23:20like yay
23:21I've got work
23:23that's how
23:24it's supposed
23:25to be
23:25a business thing
23:27and I
23:28I wasn't
23:30I wasn't prepared.
23:35Lawyers for David Sullivan
23:37say Florence's
23:38account is implausible
23:39given the layout
23:40of his house
23:43Florence did several
23:44photo shoots
23:45in the weeks
23:45that followed
23:46just as she says
23:48David Sullivan promised
23:49she then decided
23:50to stop working
23:51for him
23:52and says what happened
23:53played a part
23:54in a decline
23:54in her mental health
23:55it sent me down
23:57a very
23:58very
24:00path of
24:01self-loathing
24:04for many years
24:05I mean I was
24:05very suicidal
24:06for many years
24:08up until
24:09very recently
24:10I struggled
24:10with my mental
24:11health
24:14she says
24:15she didn't go
24:15to the police
24:16because she thought
24:17she wouldn't be
24:18taken seriously
24:20what's the point
24:22what is the point
24:24the general consensus
24:25within the industry
24:26us girls used to talk
24:27about it a lot of the time
24:29if we were attacked
24:30nobody would
24:31even if it wasn't
24:32at work
24:33who would give a shit
24:40at least eight women
24:42including Sasha Wall
24:43have made allegations
24:44to the police
24:45about David Sullivan's conduct
24:49Essex police
24:50recently reviewed
24:51most of the cases
24:52and found it had been
24:53correct to conclude
24:55there was insufficient evidence
24:56to bring any criminal charges
25:00we asked David Sullivan
25:01about the allegations
25:02made to the police
25:03and also made
25:04by the women
25:05in this investigation
25:07he says he categorically
25:08denies all of these complaints
25:13Tony Livesey
25:14says he has no recollection
25:15of introducing a woman
25:16to David Sullivan
25:17on the phone
25:19he has great sympathy
25:20for a woman
25:21who may have become
25:22a victim
25:23and rejects
25:24any suggestion
25:24he played any role
25:25in that scenario
25:30he says the countdown
25:31to 16 competition
25:32was not his idea
25:34and that large parts
25:35of his book
25:36were fictionalised
25:37to make it appear
25:37he was at the centre
25:38of all stories
25:39even when he wasn't
25:46Nick Cracknell says
25:48the sport has never
25:49received any complaints
25:50about David Sullivan's behaviour
25:52he says women
25:53were simply attracted to him
25:55the owner's a sort of
25:56multi-billionaire
25:57that sort of
25:58is really rich
25:59and the women love him
26:00so it's up to him
26:01what he does
26:02it's up to them
26:02what they do
26:03so because he's rich
26:04different rules apply
26:04I think definitely
26:06that's true yeah
26:06what do you mean by that
26:08well I think
26:08as you just said
26:09because he's rich
26:09and powerful
26:11and women seem to love
26:12rich and powerful men
26:13since the beginning
26:14a time and it wouldn't be
26:17the first time
26:18a rich and powerful man
26:21has admirers
26:22who are female
26:24the flip side of that
26:26is that he's rich
26:27and powerful
26:27and women were afraid
26:28to speak up
26:29felt powerless to speak up
26:30felt they wouldn't be believed
26:31well it's funny you say that
26:33because we've just been through
26:3410-15 years
26:35of the Me Too movement
26:36and we've had 40 years
26:38of the sport being published
26:40and we've had 50 years
26:41of Dave being this rich guy
26:42no complaints
26:44not one
26:49David Sullivan remains
26:50a major figure in football
26:52in 2010 he bought West Ham
26:55then in the Premier League
26:56so it's taken us 22 years
26:59to be where we really want to be
27:01the club has just been relegated
27:04the day after we told David Sullivan
27:06this investigation
27:07was going to be broadcast
27:08he resigned
27:11tonight at 10
27:12the Joint Chair of West Ham
27:14David Sullivan
27:15steps down
27:16to fight what he says
27:17are false allegations
27:18about his private life
27:21in his resignation statement
27:23David Sullivan
27:24criticised the investigation
27:25as fundamentally unfair
27:27he said
27:28after a lifetime
27:29spent building businesses
27:31in the adult industry
27:32he's met thousands of women
27:34and that it's sadly inevitable
27:36that a small number
27:37of improper conduct claims
27:38are being made against him
27:42we approach the football association
27:44and West Ham
27:45about our investigation
27:47both say they have robust
27:48safeguarding measures in place
27:51but they are unable to comment
27:52on any individual cases
28:01football
28:01newspapers
28:02and pornography
28:03have made David Sullivan
28:05a powerful man
28:06over the last 40 years
28:09women we've spoken to
28:10say
28:10he's abused his position
28:15the sort of
28:16man that gives you the creeps
28:18you get a feel from him
28:19when you talk to him
28:20of what sort of person he is
28:21I think
28:25you know
28:25there was no sweet talk
28:27or anything
28:27no charming
28:28no nothing like that
28:29it was just
28:31come and sit next to me
28:34give me sex
28:38for many years
28:39I couldn't look this picture
28:41it would just make me feel
28:42physically sick
28:44he's untouchable
28:46he's one of the most
28:47powerful men I know
28:50David Sullivan
28:51has long enjoyed
28:52influence and power
28:55the women in this investigation
28:56say it's time for him
28:58to be held to account
28:59for his abuse
29:00of that power
29:09details of organizations
29:11offering information
29:12and support
29:13with some of the issues
29:15raised
29:15are available on the
29:17BBC Action Line website
29:20the women in this investigation
29:33and the women in this investigation
29:33and the women in this investigation
29:33and the women in this investigation
29:33and the women in this investigation
29:33and the women in this investigation