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Evil Lives Here: My Child the Killer - Season 1 Episode 6 - Never Saw It Coming
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00:07Yes, that's Betty.
00:14And there's Matthew.
00:17First steps?
00:18Yep.
00:20That's Betty holding on to his hand.
00:25Yeah, it makes me sad.
00:27I mean, the mother of my children is no longer.
00:33I mean, it doesn't even look like he's capable.
00:37I mean, there's no red flags.
00:41There seems to be love between everybody.
00:55The case began as a fire call to a home in Castle Rock today.
00:59Police were called after firefighters found one person dead inside the home.
01:05Police say Matthew Buchanan is the sole suspect in the death of Elizabeth Biorlo, his mother.
01:18I mean, it's hard to see.
01:20This one's hard to see.
01:23I can see clearly that this is Matthew, but this is not the Matthew that I knew.
01:29This is...
01:34I don't know.
01:35Yeah.
01:37It's hard to process this picture, you know, because I know where he is and I know what got him
01:40put there.
01:43He had threatened to kill me, you know, several times.
01:47And I always thought it was just words.
01:51It's just like, this can't be true.
01:53Like I said, this is not the Matthew that I knew.
02:24It's just like, this is not the Matthew that I knew.
02:41So this is my cabin.
02:43This is where I work.
02:44This is where I play.
02:46This is my man cave, so to speak.
02:48But I spend a lot of time in here.
02:51This is where I was when I got the call from my daughter and found out that her mother was
02:56killed and that Matthew did it.
03:01And I pretty much just collapsed in my chair and sat there for a minute trying to process the information.
03:24The police told us that we needed to get out of our house and find somewhere else to be based
03:29on the threats that he gave that he was coming here to kill.
03:33Which all of a sudden it became credible threats because now, now we had the harsh realization that he was
03:41capable of killing.
03:44It's a horror story.
03:46What are you going to do?
03:48You know, what threat am I going to face?
03:52Is my son going to be carrying a gun?
03:54Is he carrying a knife?
03:56There were a lot of variables I just couldn't answer.
03:58I didn't know what I would do if I saw him.
04:00I just didn't know.
04:02You know, all I know is that he's coming to kill.
04:05Yeah, he's taking care.
04:34You know, all we hope so.
04:35yeah this is a cute little moment you know I mean when you look at his eyes in
04:49here this is the little Matt that I started with you know he's smiling he's
04:56engaging he's looking at you in your eyes and just joy he was a joy at this
05:04point in life this is a point in time where I still had hopes and dreams that
05:09he was going to do things in life and be something that he wanted to be it's just
05:16like his whole life was ahead of him
05:30I need a second
05:40it's just uh such an innocent time
05:45when I look at the pictures of him younger and everything it takes me back to that place
05:53Matthew means a gift from God
05:57not that he's not a gift from God I still believe that he was a gift from God and everything
06:01but
06:02does that mean gifts from God are murderers
06:15it was uh Sunnyvale California a friend of mine in the apartment complex I was I was in inviting me
06:23to
06:23go to his church and I did Betty and I just met started talking shortly thereafter and the pastor
06:35says God told me that these two need to be together it was a natural progression in life to me
06:41who am I
06:42to go against what God wants we use that I think as a as a confirmation that you know maybe
06:48there's
06:48something more in this and together we realized that next thing you know we got married
07:12there's the big girl well I've always studied the Bible it's a joy to take somebody
07:18and teach them you know right and wrong and I would read to them Bible stories out of picture
07:27books you know so that they could see you know we could talk about the pictures as as we read
07:31the
07:32story and the idea was you know teach them our faith showing love you know kindness and trying to
07:42teach them how to be a good member of society right there's a point in time whatever everything
07:48was great I don't know that I prayed to be a good dad I just I guess just instinctually I
07:55I felt like
07:57maybe I was you know everything just seemed to be falling into place
08:18she was actually out having an affair for quite some time and you know I was kind of stunned we've
08:27got
08:28these young children together and she's out having it an affair and she said there's things that you
08:36don't know about me and I'm like yeah you're right she says well I smoke I smoke pot but then
08:44she told me
08:45she said well I'm tired of being a mom I'm tired of being a wife and I'm tired of playing
08:52the goody-goody
08:54uh two-shoes role and she says she said I want out of course I was overwhelmed because I had
09:13to take
09:14on that role of being father and mother we tried to make life normal again but you know how do
09:23you do
09:24that it's like just did the best that I could around that time I noticed really that something was
09:31different with Matthew he had a mean streak I remember one time all the kids were in the basement
09:41that's where we hung out they were just playing with each other and I think one of the kids squirted
09:47shaving cream and that started a shaving cream war they started running around chasing each other
09:54trying to rub shaving cream on each other you know and and it was fun to everybody but when Matthew
10:02joined in he rubbed shaving cream in my niece's eyes and while he was doing that he was laughing
10:13and I pulled him aside and he was still laughing and giggling the whole time I was trying to correct
10:19him and I was trying to tell him you know that's not playing anymore you could hurt her eyes by
10:26doing
10:26that I couldn't understand why he thought that was funny it scared me a little bit to think that he
10:33knew that he was hurting her but still somehow found it funny my daughter told me basically he put a
10:50dog
10:50leash on her and jerked her down and pulled her around and treated her like a dog she said it
10:56was
10:56really hurting her and it was choking her and she couldn't get him to stop to me that was like
11:04more
11:04than playing hard that was like demeaning you know like a message to her that he did not value her
11:12at all I
11:13confronted him about it but he denied and he got angry at me for thinking that he could do such
11:19a
11:19thing what I really hope for is for him to be honest about it and say yes I did that
11:28and I won't ever do
11:31that again not hearing that I was very concerned I just didn't know if I was getting through to him
11:40that was my first big warning sign of violent behavior but I never believed that that would
11:48escalate to murder
11:5759 year old Elizabeth Biorlo died this week in a house fire one other person was hurt last summer
12:03Biorlo filed a restraining order against her son but it was vacated by the court police
12:08believe Buchanan might have already left the state if you have any idea where he is call police in
12:13capsule rock
12:32pretty sure we were all getting ready to go to church
12:35I mean you can see the big smile he's got on his face and the brightness in his eyes and
12:40everything
12:40I mean I just see I just see joy in him he liked riding his bicycle you know that was
12:50his big thing you
12:51know father wants to go out and play with his kids and teach them things like that and you take
12:56the
12:56training wheels off and you watch him right and it's like you have this joy it's like he's doing it
13:03you
13:04know it's like you're putting a piece of you in the world that's going to outlive you and you just
13:11want
13:11to step away knowing I left goodness in the world I mean that's your hope that was my hope for
13:17Matthew
13:28the only time that ever became physical with Matthew was I found in my garage some things that came from
13:37a
13:37golf course so I thought Matt was vandalizing the golf course and he stole some things from it put it
13:44in there and I talked to him about it and he denied it and and he laughed and I reminded
13:58him Matthew I am the
14:00authority in this household and when I said I'm the authority in this household he laughed at me again
14:07I told him I said if you laugh again I'm going to drag you across that table he laughed at
14:12me again
14:14I didn't know what else I could do I couldn't just leave an empty threat
14:20so I dragged him across the table
14:25and I held him down to where our faces would probably hit a foot apart I frankly got a little
14:33bit scared it felt horrible and it must have been scary for him because he didn't know what would be
14:40next kids don't come with a rule book but I felt like I needed to make a point
14:48I felt like he needed to understand and respect the authority that I have in my household
15:03oh yeah
15:11that's a little shadow
15:13as a very small Yorkshire Terrier even for the breed I think he was a little on the small side
15:24Matthew was mean to that little dog to the point where we had to forbid him from being alone with
15:30the
15:31dog he would take one of our big couch pillows and push it down on him you know and kind
15:40of keep
15:40him under the pillow like tormenting him really he never did anything to kill him obviously but
15:48as soon as Matthew would come down the stairs shadow would go hide under chairs and pee along
15:53the way he was traumatized by Matthew I read so many stories about people who kill people start with
16:01animals and they desensitize themselves along this path until they're capable of killing human beings you
16:08know I've heard of all that and that crossed my mind when he was hurting shadow but it was a
16:16fleeting
16:16thought I'm like oh well that's absurd he's just being mean to mean to shadow and it's not going to
16:23go any
16:23further I always thought that I could get through to him maybe that's where I went wrong
16:41breaking news we have a picture of a person of interest after firefighters found a woman dead in
16:47a home in Castle Rock 59 year old Elizabeth Barlow police want to talk to Matthew Buchanan he was last
16:53seen driving a white Dodge minivan if you see him or the vehicle call Castle Rock police
17:08so we got out of the house and we stayed at my across the street neighbor's house and I could
17:14look up
17:14the hill and I could see our house and there were scary moments because somebody on our street has a
17:21van just like that and we saw that van driving home all of a sudden fear grips us like here
17:27here's the
17:28moment you know is this Matthew is he hiding somewhere planning something has he identified the traps the
17:38police have you know did he ditched a car and get a different car every time a car would go
17:45down the
17:45road our street I'm like well how do I know that's not bad I felt like I had my neighbors
17:52in harm's way
17:53and my wife in harm's way and all he wanted to do was kill me I had a weapon with
17:58me and the fear
18:00of actually having to use that was oh it was terrible if my wife was in danger or my neighbors
18:10then perhaps I could have done it but I don't think I could have pulled the trigger to protect
18:15myself if he was threatening just me I would have to use words and compassion and love and try to
18:23appeal
18:23to the Matthew that you know I knew I mean I think love will give you more strength than you
18:30ever really
18:31know and I love him it was so so painful all the effort into raising him and everything and then
18:45it comes
18:57down to this it's the most important thing in my life my faith I believe in God I believe in
19:04a sovereign
19:05God and I believe it when he says all things work out for the good for those who love God
19:12the events
19:15that occurred it never made me question my faith I don't know what God's plan is but I just pray
19:23that he's got something for Matthew my wife and I have this same prayer between us we have five
19:30children and our greatest prayer is salvation for each of them and of course that includes Matthew we feel
19:40deeply that he needs salvation heavenly father we just come to you with our burdens we ask for comfort
19:53for the family who love and lost Betty and we ask you Lord for a work in Matthew's heart and
20:05his in his mind and
20:06bring him back to a place where he can understand the things that he's done and really look to restore
20:13his relationship with you and ask for forgiveness we just ask these things in the name of Jesus amen
20:40he became angry and he was more unruly challenging authority I don't know what was going through his mind but
20:52yeah he was not respectful to us at that point in time
20:58Matthew hated my rules you know I mean they were completely reasonable rules but Matthew seemed to not like rules
21:07at all
21:08our relationship started to change at that point
21:19she said well the next time you bring your girlfriend here make sure she takes her red panties home with
21:24her
21:24and I'm like what are you talking about and then she basically accused me of having an affair
21:33based on finding red panties in the bed and I'm like blindsided by it I didn't know where it came
21:42from you know what the cause of it was
21:47I had a suspicion that it was Matthew and I'm like maybe I mean did he plant them there
21:58well I asked him about it and he said it wasn't him and he was angry at me for even
22:02thinking such a
22:04thing but with this history of lying and everything I told him I said she's using this as the basis
22:11of a
22:11divorce you know no empathy at all I have no absolute proof of it right but all I can say
22:22is everything points
22:23to it everything points to it he didn't like her he wanted me to divorce her
22:40I kept calling his phone trying to get a hold of him and no no answer and I panicked
22:54I got on on the internet and I found police scanners of local area I heard a report about a
23:00male that fit
23:02Matthew to the T behind a building bleeding from his head and I thought oh my god this is that's
23:10Matthew
23:12called the police and it ended up not being Matthew started calling his friends trying to track him
23:21you know all of these terrible scenarios are running through your head you don't know if something
23:26happened to him
23:39his mom had bought him a bus ticket I wish that Matthew and I could talk about what he was
23:46feeling
23:47maybe I should have been you know that helicopter parent you know that snooping parent and look
23:52through his phone and whatever I tried to respect his privacy and everything but remarks were made in
24:00the past about how he could live there with no rules I couldn't promise him a an environment with no
24:07rules I couldn't promise that I wouldn't promise that this is all about my perspective right you know Betty had
24:16a
24:16loving family so you know wouldn't want to hurt any of them but I worried that he would be in
24:26his mother's
24:26environment the drugs and the no accountability and everything and again this is just my perspective it's things that I've
24:36seen you know that he would be in his mother's environment the drugs and the no accountability and everything and
24:37again this is just my perspective
24:37you know but I mean I really worried about that
24:53I put this video together right after Matthew ran away just to show Matt there there was happy times
25:05I just I just wanted him to know that he was loved but um
25:11but um kind of it's kind of different to me now um after he did what he did
25:22of course I I still want him to know that he was loved
25:26but um there was more hope behind this when I made it than there is now
25:33than there is now yeah it's different watching it now
25:56this crime happened in Colorado no one here knows only the people I've shared it with
26:07I mean I'm just the average Joe on the street just like everybody else is
26:13it's not like a topic that I would bring up in any kind of any kind of a setting I
26:20mean as an example if
26:21you're sitting around with a bunch of new people and having a meal or whatever and they start talking
26:25about their boys or girls whatever what they do in life then ask me I probably would say what four
26:34of
26:34them do and just leave the Matthew incident out I don't put it out there but I do like to
26:44stay home
26:45every time I see a family with you know a mom and a dad and kids I'm like I bet
26:51they don't have
26:51problems like mine they probably go home share a meal together read bedtime stories to their kids
26:59kiss them good night and then they just have this you know wonderful family experience and everything
27:07and something I used to have that kind of just ended but it just makes me very aware of my
27:15pain
27:35I'm sorry if you can this is Elizabeth Piorlo up to now you've not returned any phone calls but you
27:43need to come get your son
27:44he didn't treat me like his mother like on his mother he had no respect for me all I get
27:49from him
27:49are FQ he calls me names I can no longer do with him he can no longer live in my
27:54house so if you don't
27:56want him in the street I advise that you get out here and come pick him up
28:05so there was there was definitely some anger or hostility behind that there's never an
28:13appropriate time to say I told you so you know but I was going through my mind
28:29this is 2013 this is after the phone call his mother left me saying he's not welcome here
28:37anymore and he came to stay with me and I took him to a car show felt like we were
28:46bonding
28:49it really felt like we were bonding and he said you know I've done some things that should make me
28:56cry
28:57and he said I don't have the ability to cry
29:04that caused me a lot of concern that means to me
29:10maybe somewhere inside he knows that he should be showing empathy but he's unable to do so
29:47I don't know
29:47you
29:47you
29:47you
29:47you
29:49so
29:51worthless I am so done with you I'm going to be the one to whip you from
29:57existence I promise you that I will be the one to end you and he didn't
30:06communicate like this when he was at home I don't know where where it started
30:13or why it started but when you read language like that and you can't make
30:17sense of it you know there's you you can't fix anything every time I get one
30:22emails like this one I think I've lost my son he's somebody else now
30:33this one is repent sinner Jesus is a fraud and a tool he's burning in the
30:38lake of fire he writes I'm going to in the Buchanan lineage with your head
30:49if you will not accept defeat by my reason and honesty then I will pick up
30:53my sword and I will make you acknowledge what is right of course this cut me pretty
31:00deep you know thinking that my son is saying this to me I don't understand it
31:07and you know it did become a regular thing that's why I had to block my
31:14accounts I pray for him but again he's a grown man now and I'm not engaging
31:35the police would share that we got a ping from his credit card at a gas station a thing that
31:39was in
31:40Kansas so we knew what time he was in Kansas and of course we we have to slow down take
31:45do the math
31:46and like well where would that put him now you know you're listening to police
31:49scanners and the the things that were running through my head it's like if he
31:56does come to kill us you know um you know my wife was over there with me too I
32:04couldn't let that happen police say Matthew Buchanan is the sole suspect in the death of Elizabeth
32:11Biorlo Buchanan was arrested in Florida this morning
32:35I think we're here today to talk about maybe two different Matthews one who did this deed and
32:42and the other one who the Matthew was before you know he became capable of that that's Matt number
32:51one that's my Matt the whole thing that created Matt to is a black box you know I I don't
32:59know what
32:59was in it who knows what's in the black box you know influences drugs um environment but at the
33:10end of the day this is not the Matthew that I knew but the Matthew that was created the truth
33:19is I want
33:20to hear everything the good the bad the ugly I just want to have the raw truth
33:35whenever you're ready
33:40I lost bodily control I just lost control I lost control I
33:48you say you lost control did you have something in your hand when this happened
33:51yes what'd you have in your hand
33:55a small knife small knife okay did you not mean to stab her no I didn't know then once you
34:03did
34:03did you just overreact after that taking out frustration I wanted it to stop you kept stabbing
34:10her until you till you stopped right how many times you think that happened like five maybe six
34:15times everything felt cursed at that moment I was very upset and I did not feel I was in a
34:27safe place
34:29and my entire life I've been victim victim being I've been a victim like I love my mom and I
34:35love my dad
34:36but the things they put me through the emotionals the distress kept building up everything just was too
34:42much at that point I was willing to die I was willing to was willing to pay for all of
34:51it and just you
34:52know it'll catch up to me sooner or later
35:08again there's more there
35:12that's not addressed I mean it sound I don't again he's lied about so much I don't think what
35:20he's saying is that is clearly not the truth if he truly wanted to get away from her he could
35:28have he hung
35:30his head a little bit like he was finally admitting something you know I don't know if I can consider
35:39that
35:40shame or it's definitely not empathy it's like I got caught I mean
35:50this is this is Matthew lying
36:07you remember where you stabbed her in the neck of all six times I'd say so yeah
36:17after I saw I saw the light I saw a light in her eyes and I uh I said no
36:24more I I didn't want to
36:28I had a good life but
36:34the only remorse I heard in that clip I thought I heard him say I had a good life
36:43what a selfish position to take still I'm looking for remorse for for what he did to his mother not
36:58oh look what I've done to my life
37:01I'm not seeing that
37:02I don't understand it
37:23Betty's husband's brother who was a paraplegic it was Matthew's job to care for him
37:29well he was in his room and this is all I'm getting from the news reports while the house
37:34was ablaze his demise would have been to have been burned alive and he couldn't do anything to save
37:43himself what he did to his mother was a terrible terrible crime and then do something that's going
37:54to cause a paraplegic to burn to death I you know I can't even fathom that
38:10was your uncle there when the fire happened yes but your uncle can't walk no and what happened to your
38:18uncle I don't know
38:22I don't know I didn't look back
38:27you know I mean it seems to me like this should weigh heavy on him and it doesn't
38:32you know I mean he clearly murdered his mom
38:37he was almost blaming it like something took over and he couldn't stop himself
38:41don't know what that was
38:43I still can't imagine you know because
38:46yeah you know Betty and I didn't get along there at the end but who would wish someone to be
38:51murdered
38:53and go through the pain of what and knowing that your child is doing it
38:58it's it's just unimaginable to me
39:01and he knows that if he set a house on fire that Chris was going to die he couldn't save
39:10himself
39:31I have not spoken with him at all after the sentencing I got my information to him
39:40so that he could call me and uh
39:45and he's at liberty to make to make phone calls and such
39:49but I don't know where he is in his head
39:53I don't know where his mind is now
39:56you know last I heard um he was threatening to kill me
40:08I hope and pray that Matthew has that kind of moment
40:11where he realizes that he's hurt people
40:15and realizes that he needs to um
40:21seek forgiveness
40:23I just hope for that pray for that
40:26and do you think that that people can be forgiven for their sins
40:32if you can't be forgiven for your sins
40:35then we're all in a world of trouble
40:39I've already forgiven him
40:42I loved him the moment
40:45I held him in my arms
40:46at birth you know
40:48my love for him has never changed
40:52despite what he's done
40:54that doesn't
40:55that doesn't change the fact that
40:58I love him
41:03it's my son
41:04I love him
41:14this is the day he got arrested for murder
41:16it's giving me chills right now
41:19and his plans were to kill us all
41:21do not release him your honor
41:24I do not feel safe around him
41:26at that point I hated him
41:28I wanted him to suffer
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