00:00This is a meta film, but I can say that it's meta-genre, because you talk about a whole
00:07genre.
00:08What is your interest thing about this?
00:10You know, one of the first films I fell in love with as a kid was Scream, which, you
00:16know, I can look back on and think about in the context of the 90s, right?
00:20There was this moment around Tarantino where every film was very self-reflective and self-referential
00:26and quite meta.
00:27But as a kid, I just, I loved watching Scream and the way it invited me into the, the kind
00:35of like, it let me under the hood of the car a little bit.
00:37It showed me how the genre worked, but it like subverted it in ways that I just found very
00:44thrilling because it let me know that like, I could, yeah, it's just, it's another way
00:51to play with people's expectations.
00:52And I think that's why the Scream films have so beautifully like sort of married meta self-referentiality
01:03to the slasher film.
01:05It's a genre with so many kind of like rules and conventions that we love and that we love
01:09to see over and over again for reasons that maybe we don't even completely understand.
01:13And by reflecting on that and kind of calling attention to it, I think the, those early
01:19Scream movies really did a lot of smart and iconic film filmmaking.
01:26and a lot of carbon footprint.
01:26All right.
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