00:00So, when you left India, you said you faced a threat from Dao Dibrahim.
00:06Which was very true.
00:07Who told you about Dao Dibrahim was threatening you?
00:09Who said this?
00:10He took three hits at me.
00:11How do you know it was him?
00:13Because it's very clear by the Mumbai police, Rakesh Bariya, and very clearly, it was all
00:19over the media.
00:20He's given…
00:21Dao himself said it.
00:22Have you seen Chhota Shaqeel's interview?
00:24No.
00:25Please go to Chhota Shaqeel, he gave a live interview when he was caught.
00:32See he said he wanted to kill Lalit Modi.
00:34And he missed three times.
00:35Why did they want to kill you?
00:37Because I didn't look the other way when they wanted to fix matches.
00:40I threw people out.
00:41I did not allow fixing to take place.
00:43They offered me hundreds of millions of dollars to look the other way.
00:46They bet the main problem started, I'll tell you well.
00:50Dao Dibrahim is a known bookmaker.
00:53He controlled the cricket book.
00:56In those days, it was used to be two billion dollars of underground betting.
01:00Today is four billion dollars of underground betting a game.
01:03It's huge.
01:04It's huge.
01:05It's unimaginably huge.
01:07Every ball there's odds change.
01:09It's a satta bazaar, okay?
01:12Nobody fixes games anymore.
01:15You fix overs.
01:17You fix the ball.
01:18Even now?
01:19I don't know now.
01:20But that's what they do in pajama cricket and all the other crickets.
01:22You fix games, okay?
01:24We don't know what's fixing.
01:25It's become so sophisticated.
01:26Somebody takes out a handkerchief, somebody rubs something the other way, and it's a sign.
01:30Okay?
01:31We watch for these signs.
01:32We look for these signs.
01:33Okay?
01:34What happened?
01:34And if you look at the first three years when I ran the IPL, there was no fixing.
01:40I took a lot of people to task and I threw a lot of people out of the stadium.
02:12I banned a lot of people to come in.
02:14It was chatter that came from Bombay police.
02:15Bombay police put me on Z security.
02:17I didn't ask for it.
02:19All of a sudden, I have Z security.
02:20There was a shootout outside my house in Bombay.
02:23There was a hit for me in Johannesburg and I'm in Cape Town, which was picked up by the
02:28South African government.
02:29There was a hit on me in Montenegro, which was picked up at the Croatian border.
02:32Okay?
02:33My son was kidnapped in London on Sloan Street, right there, by a guy called Mughal Aazam,
02:42Baba Aazam.
02:43He lives on Park Street.
02:46MI5 is trading them.
02:48This is not fiction.
02:50This is real.
02:51And you tie all of them to the Dao Debraham camp.
02:53It is.
02:53We found it.
02:54It is them.
02:55I then go.
02:56They have not told this story to anybody.
02:59I'm telling first time.
03:00Now you pushed me to it.
03:02I'm called at 3.30 in the morning.
03:06I forget that guy's name.
03:08He'll come to me in a minute.
03:10A cop?
03:10No, no, no.
03:11A tout.
03:13You see them around all the IPL matches.
03:17I have to get his name.
03:19He calls me.
03:20He's a friend of ours.
03:20He's been seen around all these games.
03:23He's around politicians.
03:25He's London-based guy.
03:29And when I say a Tao to me, he's a fixer dealer type of guy.
03:34And he's there.
03:34I see him around.
03:35He says, you have to come and meet this guy Baba.
03:39I said, 3 o'clock in the morning.
03:41No, you have to come now.
03:43So I said, maybe something important.
03:44I go to Baba's house.
03:48Penthouse.
03:48Back-to-back painting of Hussein.
03:51Rolling chalas.
03:54He said,
03:58You have to come from India.
04:01We need an IPL team.
04:03I said, I don't have to go to India.
04:05So I have to go to India.
04:05So I have to go to the IPL team.
04:06Who do you need to go to India?
04:06Let's go and see.
04:07Who do you have to go to India?
04:10He said, no.
04:12And all of a sudden,
04:13I said, we don't go to India.
04:14We have to go to Dawood.
04:16He said,
04:17I will fix it.
04:18It was all orchestrated by them.
04:20He goes on his terrace.
04:21Takes out his satellite phone.
04:22And calls Dawood on the phone.
04:24I pissed at my pants.
04:25I tell you this.
04:26Without doubt.
04:28Okay.
04:29Right there and then.
04:31And I had MI5 downstairs.
04:33Security.
04:35Baba says,
04:36Dawood bhai, Lalit bhai,
04:38I said, I'm not talking.
04:41I said, I'm not talking.
04:42I said, I'm not talking.
04:44And he says,
04:45Simply.
04:52Put down the phone.
04:54I go home.
04:58I tell my wife, you know.
05:00This incident happened.
05:01And I think our problem is resolved.
05:06They just expanded.
05:08Do you remember which year this was?
05:122012.
05:14Do you remember where?
05:16Did he call Pakistan?
05:18Did he call Dubai?
05:19I don't know where.
05:20I don't know.
05:20You don't know where Dawood was?
05:21I didn't speak to him.
05:23He was on a satellite phone.
05:24On a satellite phone.
05:25On the terrace.
05:26Did you tell the cops here?
05:27Yes.
05:27Everybody said my recorded statement.
05:29Okay.
05:30Number one.
05:31It's a recorded statement of mine.
05:33Okay.
05:33Number one.
05:34Number two.
05:35So.
05:35Now.
05:36Look at the drama.
05:40The drama begins.
05:42This Baba.
05:43Is now seen everywhere.
05:45He's a man of the world.
05:47Huh?
05:49I'm having dinner.
05:50One day with Shokhat Aziz.
05:52Prime Minister.
05:53Of Pakistan.
05:54Pakistan.
05:55He had just.
05:56Not.
05:56He had left.
05:57He had left Pakistan.
05:59And we were having dinner.
06:00There was an India-Pakistan match taking place.
06:02At the World Series.
06:03In.
06:04In Birmingham.
06:06He said like.
06:07I'd like to go.
06:08I said.
06:08Chalo.
06:09You will.
06:10He said.
06:10I have a Pakistan flag.
06:11I have India flag.
06:12So I had the India flag on my shoulder.
06:15And this guy.
06:15The former Prime Minister of Pakistan.
06:17Good friend of mine.
06:18Okay.
06:19We bonded because.
06:20We.
06:20I knew him.
06:21Before he was Prime Minister.
06:22He was Citibank.
06:23Yeah.
06:24And I would meet him at Prameshaya.
06:25Goddraji's house.
06:26Prameshaya was a very dear friend of mine.
06:28Bombing.
06:28Okay.
06:28That's how we met.
06:29And you know.
06:30I've developed relationship.
06:31Nothing else.
06:32He liked cricket.
06:32I like cricket.
06:33It was good.
06:34Baba happened to be there.
06:36Sitting.
06:37At a table in Chinatang.
06:38I remember.
06:39At the bar.
06:40And I asked.
06:41Shokhat Bhai.
06:42I said.
06:42I don't know.
06:42I said.
06:43I don't know.
06:44I said.
06:45You could confirm with him.
06:46He said.
06:48That was all.
06:49And then.
06:51They start calling me up.
06:52On a weekly basis.
06:54Who?
06:55The Baba.
06:56Okay.
06:56And said.
06:58Dosti is not about.
07:02Forgot.
07:03Forgiven.
07:04Come.
07:04We need something back in return.
07:07Hmm.
07:07So I said.
07:07What happened?
07:07That's when I learned the story.
07:09That the hits were being put on me.
07:11Is because.
07:12I moved it to South Africa.
07:14America.
07:15So now you have to make good.
07:17Now you look at Shota Shaqeel's interview.
07:21Wait.
07:21No, no.
07:22You hear.
07:22If you Google now.
07:23And you put on your.
07:24On your iPad.
07:25You are saying that.
07:26They didn't.
07:27That.
07:27There were two people who didn't want it to be moved to South Africa.
07:31According to you.
07:32In this interview.
07:33You have said.
07:34One was Mr. Chidambaram didn't want you to move there.
07:36Because of elections.
07:37And the second one.
07:38You are saying.
07:39Is that.
07:40He plays against anything.
07:41And that the bookies.
07:42Bookies are betting.
07:43Or whether he happens.
07:44Who didn't want you to move to South Africa.
07:45No, no.
07:45Bookies are taking bets.
07:48There's a whole drama going on in media.
07:50Okay.
07:51IPL.
07:51South Africa.
07:52England.
07:53There were all these bets going on.
07:55So there were two things that Dao Debraham wanted from you.
07:57One.
07:58He wanted a team.
07:59And two.
07:59He wanted you to stop the betting thing.
08:02Which you were stopping.
08:03No.
08:03Two reasons.
08:03I wasn't stopping anybody.
08:05No, no.
08:06I think there's again miscommunication.
08:07Yeah.
08:07Explain to me.
08:08It's getting confusing.
08:09It is getting confusing.
08:10So let me explain to you.
08:11So it's better.
08:15They accused me.
08:17Of moving IPL to South Africa.
08:20When they thought.
08:21It's not going to move.
08:22Because they ate the bets up.
08:24So they lost a lot of money.
08:25Apparently.
08:26Okay.
08:27So.
08:28They wanted.
08:29Me.
08:30To make good that money.
08:31I didn't ask you to take the bet.
08:33I don't have to do it.
08:34You said that this prime minister will become the chief minister.
08:39That is your business.
08:40I am not in the book making.
08:41So you are no longer in the head list.
08:42Why?
08:43One minute.
08:43I will come to that.
08:44You will see his own statement.
08:47You will see his own statement.
08:48And live statement.
08:50He said we have resolved issues with Lalit Modi.
08:52What resolved issues?
08:53Did you?
08:53I didn't.
08:54I just said.
08:57I will retire from cricket.
08:59I gave my word.
09:00I will retire.
09:01Is it because of Daud Ibrahim that you retired from cricket?
09:04It's one of the biggest reasons.
09:06One of the biggest reasons.
09:08Seriously?
09:09I have never said this before.
09:10One of the biggest reasons.
09:11Why would I subject myself.
09:13To media pressure.
09:14Government pressure.
09:16And then.
09:17Life threatening.
09:17Life threatening pressure.
09:19So.
09:20I am saying it for the first time.
09:21You have seen Durandhar?
09:22I have not seen it.
09:23But I want to see it.
09:24Because Ranveer is a good friend of mine.
09:25And he wants to play me in a movie.
09:26And I have to see it.
09:27Because I have just been so busy.
09:29No.
09:29I am talking about Daud Ibrahim.
09:31No.
09:31I haven't seen it.
09:31I haven't seen the movie.
09:32He is there in part 2.
09:33Okay.
09:34In the movie.
09:35They show him in part 2.
09:37Which is why I am asking you.
09:38But I thought movies are fictional.
09:39Or this is a real movie.
09:40Well.
09:41It is based on real life events.
09:43You know how all Bollywood movies are.
09:44They say it is based on real life events.
09:46I don't see Bollywood movies.
09:47To tell you the truth.
09:48I have seen 3 movies.
09:49The reason I am asking you is about Daud Ibrahim.
09:52Because he is a character in that.
09:53Who is paying a price for the Bombay bomb blast.
09:56Which happened.
09:57And the attack.
09:57Do you know about Bombay bomb blast now?
09:59I will give you another story.
10:01And this will blow you off.
10:02Completely.
10:03The Bombay bomb blast.
10:05Is on the 26th of November.
10:072008.
10:09At the Taj Hotel.
10:11In Oberoi Hotel.
10:12And at the.
10:14I am at the Taj Hotel.
10:16At 5 to 7.
10:17In the morning.
10:19With 200 people.
10:20At the souk restaurant.
10:22Having a security briefing.
10:24And I step out.
10:26Exactly at 7 o'clock.
10:27Or something around then.
10:29To go to have drinks.
10:30On the boat of Vijay Madhya.
10:32The cross on the harbour.
10:34What is happening on the 27th?
10:36The 100% of the hotel is booked by me.
10:39Champion League is beginning.
10:41The opening ceremony is on the 27th of November 2008.
10:44And.
10:46And.
10:46Eight.
10:47I have all the teams landing that night.
10:50I have booked the whole Taj Hotel.
10:53I have booked the whole Oberoi Hotel.
10:55The next day.
10:57That night.
11:00I have 200 security personnel.
11:02At the souk restaurant.
11:04Doing a briefing.
11:05I walk out.
11:06I have just reached the gateway of India.
11:08And the gunshots begin.
11:12And.
11:14All I can say today.
11:15Is.
11:15I am so thankful.
11:17And grateful.
11:18That it happened on 26th.
11:20And not 27th.
11:22From my perspective.
11:23If it was 27th.
11:24It would be a complete different cable.
11:39If it was 27th.
11:41It would be a complete different cable.
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