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Get ready for an electrifying episode of The Lobster Fight! We're thrilled to welcome racing sensation Nick Cassidy to the podcast. At just 20 years old, this Kiwi powerhouse has already conquered championships in Japan, including Formula 3, Super GT500, and Super Formula.
Currently competing in Formula E and holding a strong third place in the championship with the Envision Racing team, Nick shares his insights into the thrilling world of motorsport. He opens up about his passion for racing, his journey from karting to the top tiers, and the intense competitive spirit that drives him.
Join us for a dynamic chat covering everything from overtaking strategies and track conditions to the crucial role of instinct versus team strategy. Nick also reveals his favorite racetrack, memorable race moments, and some hilariously weird moments from team radio that will keep you entertained.
Don't miss this captivating conversation with a rising star in the racing world!
#FormulaE #RacingDriver #NickCassidy #TheLobsterFight
Currently competing in Formula E and holding a strong third place in the championship with the Envision Racing team, Nick shares his insights into the thrilling world of motorsport. He opens up about his passion for racing, his journey from karting to the top tiers, and the intense competitive spirit that drives him.
Join us for a dynamic chat covering everything from overtaking strategies and track conditions to the crucial role of instinct versus team strategy. Nick also reveals his favorite racetrack, memorable race moments, and some hilariously weird moments from team radio that will keep you entertained.
Don't miss this captivating conversation with a rising star in the racing world!
#FormulaE #RacingDriver #NickCassidy #TheLobsterFight
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00:01Welcome to the 14th episode of The Lobster Fight, guys.
00:05Welcome back.
00:06How are we? Are we good, Sean? Are we good?
00:09Absolutely fantastic.
00:10Yeah, yeah. Why?
00:11Because today is a very special day.
00:12It is, it is, mate.
00:14We're having another guest on the podcast,
00:16and we're very happy to have him here with us.
00:19Today we are having a lovely chat with Nick Cassidy,
00:26and I don't want him to present himself
00:28because we did that sort of with Andrea,
00:30and we felt it wasn't too nice for him.
00:32So I will happily introduce you, mate.
00:35So I've written down a few things about Nick here,
00:38and to the people out there that don't know him,
00:41maybe you'll get to know him through this episode.
00:43That's at least what we would like to try and achieve.
00:46Nick's a 20-year-old, very smiling guy out of New Zealand,
00:51so he's a Kiwi, for the ones that don't know,
00:54and born and raised in Auckland, if I'm not mistaken,
00:57and Nick's a racing driver.
01:00Nick is an absolute racing driver,
01:01and I've written down a few of the achievements that come to mind.
01:07Japanese Formula 3 champion,
01:09Super GT500 champion with Ryu Rikawa,
01:13and Super Formula champion as well.
01:15Three championships, all as well in Japan, if I'm not mistaken.
01:21Karting since the age of very young.
01:23I don't know exactly, maybe Nick can get into telling us that later.
01:27And currently racing in Formula E championships,
01:30and it's the third season for Nick,
01:33and he's overall number three in the championship currently.
01:36Pretty cool.
01:37Sitting here with one of the contestants for the championship,
01:41racing for Envision Racing Formula E team.
01:43And Nick, I'm going to allow you the microphone now.
01:46Cheers.
01:47Boys, thanks for having me on, first of all.
01:49Thank you for coming on.
01:51I was nervous there, listening to Fred introduce me.
01:55I'm like, oh no, what can go wrong, right?
01:58That was pretty good.
01:59Thank you for that, mate.
02:00Yeah, you're welcome.
02:00I've done better than I could have done myself.
02:02Yeah, but you've done it.
02:03You know, you've done that.
02:07So, guys, today we're going to have a chat about racing, about live.
02:11We all obviously live around the same place here in Monaco,
02:14but we come from various different places.
02:18But let's start and get to know you a little bit.
02:21I think Sean has a few, let's say, initial questions.
02:24I've got a few quick fire questions.
02:26So, loosen us up.
02:27The first thing that comes to mind, just shoot it out.
02:29All right.
02:30That's cool.
02:30That's cool.
02:31All right.
02:32Guys, just to be fair,
02:33all I've said basically on this podcast so far is hello.
02:36Everyone's wondering who the hell is this?
02:38Go ahead.
02:39Now we're going to have me firing out random answers,
02:42and they're going to be like, what's this dude up to?
02:45All right.
02:46Let's go.
02:47All right.
02:47All right, Nick, do you prefer overtaking or defending?
02:50Ah, overtaking.
02:52Overtaking?
02:53All right.
02:53Do you prefer a wet or a dry track?
02:56Dry.
02:57Fair enough.
02:58Do you prefer home races or international races?
03:02Home.
03:03Ooh.
03:04Do you prefer street circuits or traditional tracks?
03:07Street.
03:08Cool.
03:09Do you prefer day races or night races?
03:11Night.
03:13What's, who's your toughest competitor?
03:17Whoa.
03:18Pass.
03:19Pass?
03:20Fair enough.
03:22What is the best racing advice you've received?
03:28Oh, it's very, very simple.
03:31First that comes to mind is don't give up.
03:33Everyone says it, but, mate, it's key.
03:36Easier said than done, isn't it?
03:39Right.
03:40Then, is it all team strategy or do you use your own instinct?
03:45Instinct.
03:45That's nice.
03:47Well, I did.
03:48Not if you ask the team.
03:49No, no, no.
03:50Like, that's cool because that's the first thing that comes to mind, obviously.
03:54It's like, it's instinct racing.
03:56I think it's cool.
03:57I was wondering, what's your favorite racetrack?
04:01You said street circuits, so I don't want to.
04:04Macau.
04:05Macau, yeah?
04:05Very, very cool.
04:06Street circuit.
04:07Yeah.
04:07I think that's pretty cool.
04:09I like these questions.
04:10They're easy, guys.
04:11I was expecting something like I had to answer politically correct.
04:16No, no, no.
04:17There is no, I mean, we are the most listened to podcast in Monaco, so don't get shy, but,
04:22you know, you can answer everything that you want.
04:25I wanted to know golf or skydiving.
04:28Oh, that's a tough one, mate.
04:30I really want to go skydiving.
04:31I'm going to say skydiving because I haven't done it.
04:33I would love to, but I am into my golf currently.
04:37Cool.
04:37Very cool.
04:38Music or no music for preparation?
04:42Music.
04:43Cool.
04:44Yeah.
04:45Brightest memory of your racing career?
04:48Boom.
04:50Wow.
04:51It would be the Super Formula title.
04:55Cool.
04:55In 2019.
04:56Very, very cool.
04:57What is the weirdest thing you've heard on the radio?
05:03On the radio?
05:04On the radio, like the team radio.
05:06Team radio?
05:09Well, I've had some pretty weird conversations with my engineer this year.
05:14What's an example for that?
05:16Have you guys, there used to be an ad in Germany about teaching English, and I forget exactly
05:27how it goes, but it's a German Coast Guard.
05:29Oh, yeah.
05:30Have you seen that one?
05:31Yeah, that one.
05:32Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:33So I've had my engineer basically repeat this ad to me while I'm on an out lap, and I just
05:38had no idea what he was talking about.
05:41We'd forgotten about it, and two days later, he sent me this YouTube link, and I watched
05:45it.
05:46I was in hysterics.
05:47I was laughing so much.
05:48But, yeah, we come up with some weird shit.
05:51It's quite cool.
05:52Amazing.
05:53That's the funny part.
05:54That's the funny part when you're just, you're there, you're in your race car, I imagine,
05:58and then you just start hearing these voices and be like, all right, mate, we're on the
06:01out lap here.
06:02It's getting ready, but let's have it.
06:03Yeah, I try, like, I try to keep it, I try to keep it fun and relaxed, and it probably
06:08doesn't work for everyone, and it doesn't, even the guys you work with, so just to give
06:14a little bit of background on Formal E, we're allowed 22 people at the circuit working on
06:20the cars in the garage, and then we have an ops room, which is a remote base, so it's
06:26at our workshop with all the telemetry, all the screens following the session, and we're
06:30limited to six people there.
06:32Okay.
06:32So essentially, within my team, I'm speaking to 28 people, right?
06:39But that's okay.
06:42It's professional, and it's pretty cool, but then when you get me coming on the radio and
06:46saying, hey guys, have you seen the horse?
06:49It's a bit weird.
06:52I had no idea you could be that many on the radio, but that's a lot.
06:55Yeah, obviously just listening, so it's me and my engineer, and I'm lucky that he's a laid-back
06:59dude, and you know, he can say stuff like, no, I haven't, and I'm like, where is it?
07:04He said, no, I haven't seen it either, you know, and we just, you can have a laugh.
07:08It's cool.
07:09This is what I meant when I presented, Nick, you know, smiling, always funny, good chat.
07:14Trying to be half as positive as you guys.
07:15If I'm half as positive as you guys, we're pretty positive.
07:17Oh, sure.
07:18Sure.
07:19I mean, we do come around a bit positive, but like...
07:21It's amazing.
07:23It's a really good quality to have.
07:24That's good.
07:25That's good.
07:25I think it helps also in a serious, I imagine a serious career and stuff, keeping it loose.
07:32For some people, it helps.
07:34For others, it's a stress, like if everything is not strict in a certain way.
07:39Yeah, everyone's different, right?
07:40You've all got your little things that you like to do or the way you want to be.
07:45I'm certainly not perfect, even to what suits me.
07:48I'm not how I should be all of the time, but that's part of sport.
07:51But you've got to work yourself out and try to put yourself into the zone that suits you, right?
07:56You're right.
07:57You're right.
07:59I was wondering, mate, I've noticed that you always carry more or less the racing number 37 when you go
08:07racing.
08:08Have you done that always?
08:09Is there a specific story about 37?
08:12Yeah, so when I was...
08:14I hope this isn't too boring for you guys.
08:17Nothing's boring.
08:17But really simply, when I was younger, my dad did a bit of racing, and he was actually number 37.
08:25My brother was 27, and I was 87.
08:29So that was as we grew up.
08:33And then when I went to Japan, the two cars were 36 and 37.
08:37They naturally had me as 37 for my first year there, and we won the championship.
08:43So it was just something that stuck, and it was quite cool that I linked back to my dad, right?
08:48And yeah, when I moved to Formula E, I decided to continue with that.
08:54That's cool.
08:55So you feel sort of a proudness of carrying the number?
08:59You're not really too...
09:00Just got like a little bit of meaning, right?
09:01Yeah, it's cool.
09:02I don't know if it's...
09:04I just noticed it.
09:05It got me thinking.
09:10It's interesting, because the racing numbers for some people, I think, are pretty religious stuff.
09:15If you can't have your racing number on your car for some certain reason, maybe there's another driver who carries
09:20it, or it's just...
09:21What's your number?
09:22Number one.
09:22Well, I was...
09:25Just with that, mate.
09:26I really do appreciate it.
09:28I've used 98.
09:3098, mate.
09:31Yeah, 98.
09:31Exactly.
09:32Yeah.
09:33And you got a reason behind that?
09:34It's just my birth year, mate.
09:35Very simple, you know, basic and boring, but I like this...
09:39Not the symmetry, because it really isn't a symmetrical number, but I just like the way it looks.
09:45Yeah.
09:46Sometimes it just...
09:47So you've gone for the sexy part.
09:48Correct.
09:49Exactly.
09:49Try it, at least.
09:50I'm happy that you found it the same way as well.
09:52No, I just, you know, observe.
09:57Did you always grow up, like, knowing that your way was sort of racing, trying to make it a professional
10:03racing driver, as you are today?
10:05Yeah.
10:06I was always addicted by cars, motorsport, Formula One especially.
10:12And then I think if you can live your passion for as long as possible, you're pretty lucky, right?
10:20And I'm just kind of lucky that that day where it become time to get a real job hasn't come
10:27yet.
10:29Yeah.
10:30Now, if racing wasn't your full-time profession, what do you think you'd be doing?
10:36I have, weirdly, a big passion for business and marketing.
10:46So I think it involves some way in marketing, whether that's social media, fashion, those kind of things.
10:55Yeah, I'm getting more and more involved in that kind of stuff now just because it's become something that I
11:00really enjoy outside of racing.
11:02Cool.
11:03So it's like a passion, actually.
11:04But I think with motorsport, you can actually sort of combine those two as motor racing is such a marketed
11:11sport now that you want the visibility of brands, you want the visibility of partners and stuff.
11:16So maybe there's a way for you to connect those two.
11:19Yeah, I've thought about it a lot.
11:21I've just gone through probably the stage where, you know, I've missed – well, I shouldn't say this, and I
11:28feel it's a weird thing to kind of say because I feel if you're starting your career, you can really
11:35create a brand around you and go for certain something.
11:40You can create a lot of different ways to portray and show what you do in your career, whereas I
11:47think now with where I'm at, I'm enjoying what I'm doing.
11:51I'm focusing a lot on the performance side, not really on the marketing side just because I'm feeling that's working
11:56for me right now.
11:57And then I'm more looking at how can I help others with that knowledge, if that makes sense.
12:01That's cool.
12:02So it's actually – that passion is also to help others, not necessarily for your own benefit only.
12:08Yeah, and I'm almost a bit superstitious where I find whenever I focus on those kind of things myself, then
12:14for whatever reason – I never think it's linked to this, but the results aren't as good.
12:23And whenever I'm – you know, I'm pretending no one knows I'm there and I'm focusing on my gig and
12:29my job, then I seem to go okay.
12:31So, yeah, I don't think that they're linked at all, but I think it's just a little bit of a
12:37superstitious thing in the mind.
12:40I think we all have those superstitious feelings or thoughts.
12:44So if you've figured out that, for example, it works for you now, why not stick to it?
12:49Yeah, continue for a bit.
12:50Why not stick to it?
12:51Until a bad race we can and then we'll be all over it.
12:54Exactly.
12:54And then you have the chance to just flick it 360 and be like, okay, I'll come up with something
12:59new.
13:00Yeah, exactly.
13:00I'll go drawing it before every race or something like that.
13:03Totally off-topic, weird stuff.
13:06I was wondering, how does a Kiwi from Auckland end up in Monaco?
13:12Yeah, yeah.
13:15Man, long, long journey, right?
13:17I first came to Europe when I was 16, 17, just trying to get any gig I could in racing,
13:26whether that was – at the time it was Formula Renault Euro Cup.
13:29I was trying to get a test, race-y there.
13:33But at that stage of your career, it's a topic talked about a lot, but you've got to bring money
13:39to the team, right?
13:40You've got to be able to pay to race, which is just part of the game, but you've got to
13:47– if you've already got a certain amount of funds, you've got to work out, well, what's the most efficient
13:51way to do that?
13:53And it wasn't easy from the background that I had, but I kind of made it work, got a gig
13:58here, a gig there.
13:59And then I had one or two good races that led me to Japan.
14:03I had all of a sudden a contract with Tuoda.
14:06I was in a really good place.
14:09My career in Japan from the start was really nice, and I was very fortunate to end up there.
14:17But after a while, I was living this life in Japan, which I thought was amazing, you know, lifestyle-wise,
14:26instead of Tokyo, at a pretty cool place.
14:31Racing was good.
14:32We were winning.
14:33But I'm like, well, how much longer can I keep doing this for without being bored?
14:39And I had the opportunity to join Formula E, to move back to Europe.
14:45I mean, we've got a lot of mutual friends in Monaco, right, which I think is a pretty cool place
14:50for sport and for racing.
14:52So it was an easy choice to move to Monaco and be part of that in combination with moving to
14:57Formula E.
14:59And I was at that stage in my career where it was then or never.
15:03Like, do I continue in Japan for the next 10 years and become bored?
15:09Or do I challenge myself and try to do something new again?
15:11And so there I am.
15:13That's cool.
15:14It's kind of getting out of your comfort zone was then the choice you then chose on.
15:19Well, I got out of my comfort zone a lot in Japan, except no one knew you.
15:24So the city was so big, so many people.
15:26Whereas in Monaco, you do that, and you're in the news the next morning, right?
15:29Yeah.
15:30That's true.
15:31That's true.
15:32But I think what I really respect about that and the move itself is that you were having it going
15:38pretty well for you there, you know?
15:40Yeah, life was perfect.
15:41Like, you were winning races.
15:42You know, you were racing a lot.
15:44You had a lot of time behind the wheel.
15:47To then give up that, go somewhere else, and try to make it in a championship, which might seem quite
15:54vastly different from what you came from.
15:57I have huge respect for that.
15:58Cheers, man.
15:59Yeah, I actually struggled with it the first, I must say, the 12 months that I was here.
16:06That, because I think when I made the move was end of 2020, so it was, you know, middle of
16:12COVID, let's say.
16:13Life in Monaco and in Europe still wasn't normal through 2021.
16:18It was pretty restricted.
16:20So I wasn't experiencing what I thought that I'd signed up for.
16:24Plus, racing-wise, it was pretty different.
16:27And honestly, I didn't enjoy it the first 12 months.
16:30I found it tough.
16:31I was like, have I done the right thing?
16:32But I think you settle into life a lot more.
16:38Your friend group gets bigger but more trustworthy.
16:42You know more or less what you want to be doing.
16:46And yeah, I must say, over the last 12 months, that's got way easier.
16:49So it's been pretty cool.
16:50I think for Sean and I, having moved actually here, more or less at the same time.
16:55Oh, you guys come at the same time?
16:56Yeah, I moved here in, like, I moved here probably full-time in 2020 as well.
17:01Okay.
17:02So now it's, like, two and a half years, three years and counting.
17:05Yep.
17:05And Sean used to be here for?
17:07I mean, I've been here for, like, six, seven years, but only in the summertime.
17:11Yeah.
17:12Right.
17:12And then after that, it was, and then more or less as of then, it was full-time.
17:16Okay.
17:17But, like, during COVID, like, we didn't meet anyone.
17:20We didn't mingle with anyone, really, besides ourselves.
17:23Yeah, yeah.
17:23And then, from then on, like, as of, let's say, yeah, really, let's say the last 12, 12 to 18
17:30months, I'd say,
17:31is really where kind of everything opened up and you actually got to be able to do things again.
17:37Right.
17:37Yeah.
17:38Yeah.
17:38It was, for me, I had the same thoughts that you had because we were moving here to study at
17:43the time,
17:44at the university, where you are usually very social, where you usually have, you know,
17:49everything in your life is, like, new, fresh, whatever, and you see yourself locked up in your apartment at 6
17:54p.m.
17:54because of, you know, you couldn't go outside your door.
17:57It was a bit weird.
17:59Yeah.
17:59And finding friends in a place where everyone actually, or many people, are from so vastly different places
18:06that you meet people and it's, like, it's a little bit of a funky situation.
18:10Yeah, it's that awkward phase, right?
18:12A bit.
18:12A bit.
18:13I agree.
18:13As you get through that and life's more open, it becomes easier to, yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:17Yeah, because once then you've opened it up, you have so many different people here.
18:22As you say, also, in terms of, for example, athletes you hang around with, I think we also hang around
18:27with a lot,
18:28is that everyone has their own story.
18:30They all come here for having a nice base.
18:33Yeah.
18:33And, you know, you have your thing going, your racing.
18:37Sean has his thing going.
18:38I have my thing going.
18:39But we all have this time where we are in the home base.
18:42Sure, sure.
18:42Having a great time all together.
18:44Yeah, which makes it mega, right?
18:45And to have that balance where you can have your career, you can have your passion, everything
18:51going on, but still then be here and be amongst guys who are on a similar kind of wavelength and
18:57lifestyle is pretty cool.
18:58Do you already have kind of like a friend or like a group of guys before you moved here that
19:05you knew?
19:07Or was it like you came in and it was completely?
19:09Yeah, well, basically, so Mitch Evans races Formula E and Tom Blomquist, he was racing Formula E in 2021 as
19:19well when I moved.
19:23We grew up together since we were like six years old in New Zealand.
19:27We've been best friends since we were like six.
19:28So it was then mad to be racing in the same championship against each other again and living in the
19:35same place as well.
19:36It was just, you know.
19:37Did it bring back memories?
19:38It's like a group of 10-year-olds hanging out together again.
19:42That's pretty cool.
19:45That's crazy how, you know, three guys from New Zealand just end up in the same small place.
19:51Yeah, and like we'd all been off doing our things.
19:53We'd all maintained our friendship and, yeah, even career-wise in terms of different championships and whatever.
20:01So to end back together racing against each other was pretty cool.
20:05I think it's cool you can find that pleasure in the racing against each other, you know,
20:09having had that competitive aspect since the age of six, you know,
20:12you're always comparing yourself a little bit back and forth.
20:14But to see all three excel in your own way, I think it's so cool.
20:18Like you've all done your thing, right?
20:20Sure, sure.
20:21And then you just end up at some point.
20:23It's funny as well because, you know, as you get older, I think you get more and more mature about
20:28it
20:28where I think naturally you support each other more and more as well.
20:32You know, you've got way more respect.
20:35I think you always have respect, but when you're eight years old, you just want to be the best.
20:39Yeah.
20:39And now you still want to be the best, but you realize that the other guy is pretty fucking good
20:43as well.
20:43Yeah, which is awesome.
20:45Which is awesome to also, like, if I had two of my friends that, if I go back home,
20:51like, let's say, 10 years of swimming, for example, 10 years ago,
20:54the guys I was swimming with, I don't see myself in, you know,
20:58having a friendship with them right here in Monaco, still doing the swimming career and stuff
21:02and be that closely competing, but also in terms of friendship.
21:06It's something that, I don't want to say I'm jealous, but it must be cool to have that feeling.
21:11It's like home away from home.
21:13Yeah, I'm lucky though because, for example, if that wasn't here,
21:17then I think getting into, you know, life when you first moved, as you guys discover, right,
21:22it's a bit awkward trying to meet guys or people doing similar things.
21:28And I'm not really the guy to walk down the streets and I'm only in science and I'm looking for
21:33friends.
21:33You know what it says?
21:34Not quite afraid yet.
21:36Not the Kiwi way.
21:37Maybe it isn't the Kiwi way.
21:40But did you all, when, if you can imagine it or remember it,
21:45when did you decide like 100% racing is what I'm going to go for?
21:49I'm going to take my shot at racing.
21:51I think you've got to be pretty lucky in life.
21:54Like, man, I've been so fortunate to have my parents be behind me
21:59to be able to get me into the sport, into karting when I was super young.
22:03You know, it's a passion when you're a young kid.
22:09But I think, I mean, it's not my decision at six years old to buy a go-kart.
22:14It's not my decision at seven, eight to spend every weekend going to the go-kart track and stuff, right?
22:21So I'm pretty lucky to have parents who basically gave all that up to support me.
22:26What kind of racing was your dad doing?
22:27Just club stuff, like track day, some normal club meetings.
22:34He had like a Lotus 7 type catering car, you know.
22:40And, yeah, just he's really hands-on, really loves his cars from the mechanical side.
22:48So, yeah, he did the driving as well.
22:51That's really, really cool.
22:52I think for everyone that has a success history in sport many times,
22:57it comes from either, most of the time, just endless support from back home.
23:03Yeah.
23:03That you know that you can be confident in spending all your time and energy
23:08to try and get really good at something.
23:10Yeah, true, true.
23:11Because if you don't have that, it's...
23:14Yeah, it's common, right?
23:15Like, when you look around the world and you see the top sports people
23:19in many different categories, I think that's a common aspect.
23:24And then when you hear about someone who hasn't had that and still made it,
23:28it, for me, makes it a lot more special.
23:33Kudos.
23:33Yeah, really special.
23:34Yeah, kudos to that, for sure.
23:36I was...
23:38I mean, we did speak about how it is like moving away 20,000 kilometers from your home time.
23:43But, like, your everyday lifestyle here, how has that changed?
23:46I mean, it's probably like 10 years ago or whatever, you lived back home in New Zealand
23:50or something.
23:51But your everyday, how has it changed to come here, being a professional athlete,
23:58living in a place as Monaco, where you can do anything, basically,
24:03but you will still need to be focused on your career?
24:06So, I've gone, I guess, like I saw, you go through the different stages of life, right?
24:12But when I left home, it was basically leaving school as well.
24:17And so, I stopped, you know, finished up at school, went basically to live in the UK
24:25and every day it was, oh, well, I've got three weeks for the next race.
24:29What am I going to do each morning?
24:31And, you know, you watch videos, you watch TV series, you go to the gym because you're
24:35going to train, but you don't really have a structure.
24:38You're just waiting for the next race.
24:39Whereas, when I went to Japan, I was like, okay, I need to put some routine into my life.
24:45And so, I'm terrible at learning languages.
24:49I think a lot of that's from effort that I've got myself to put into it.
24:52But I put myself into a Japanese language school just to be, I wanted to learn some of the language,
25:00but as well, it was like, okay, 9 a.m. every morning, you're at school until 11 or 11.30,
25:06whatever it was.
25:07And then from there, okay, I go to the gym.
25:09We have lunch, go to the gym.
25:10And so, each day then I had no routine in between the races.
25:14And that, I think, built some structure and some knowledge of, okay, this is how I'm going
25:21to spend my time.
25:22Each day is going to be beneficial to me in some way.
25:26And I'm not just sitting around home or wasting letting time go by.
25:32And then on top of that, we were driving so much in Japan.
25:35So, I was doing two championships at once.
25:37It was common to do there.
25:39But it meant most weekends, something was going on, whether we're testing, racing, or whatever.
25:44And so, life become really busy.
25:46And I just got used to this lifestyle that when I've moved back to Monaco, I try replicate
25:51that in some way.
25:53I don't like waking up and not really knowing what I'm going to do or having nothing.
25:57I think it's good to have those days, but I just naturally like being in some routine
26:02or having something on the calendar during the day that I know is beneficial to myself
26:09as an individual, whether that's for racing or just for the general life.
26:13I think I can totally relate to the structure, the need for structure.
26:19And even for us, when we were just having, for example, school, and then you would still
26:23have, you know, a gap of maybe six, seven hours after school until, for example, dinner
26:28time.
26:29And what do you do in that time?
26:31Some days you would have shorter school.
26:32Right, right.
26:33What do you do with the time?
26:34So, the fact that you've been able to, let's say, adapt your day to not allow yourself to
26:42just rest it out, chill it out, challenging yourself, giving yourself structure, it's really
26:49important.
26:49And I feel it myself as well.
26:52And it relates not just to racing, right?
26:55It's just, yeah, I think whatever, whatever you're in.
26:58I mean, a lot of people have it naturally just by either, I mean, okay, not if you've
27:04got a short school day, but if you've got a full school day, you have that, that routine
27:08planned out for you.
27:09And if you're in a, in an office job, you're, you've also got it kind of structured out for
27:14you where you're in at the office at this time, you have these meetings and you go home
27:17at that time.
27:18And so, as soon as that's not there, I find it important to kind of recreate that yourself.
27:24Agreed.
27:25Going to Formula E again.
27:28So, you've done a lot of normal racing.
27:31How does that compare to, let's say, Formula E?
27:35Like, what kind of, are there different challenges?
27:37Is it similar type of racing?
27:39Is it completely different?
27:41Like, what does it look like?
27:42Yeah.
27:43You know, at first I was like, wow, man, this is, this is so different.
27:47This is so different.
27:50Not in the, not in a negative way, just, just new, pretty exciting, a lot to learn.
27:56I think anyone that comes into the championship, there's still a fair bit to learn.
28:01But, at the end of the day, we're still, we're still just trying to drive as fast as we can.
28:08You know, there's still qualifying weight where you've got two pedals and a steering wheel.
28:12You've got a friend who says, at the end of the day, it's only a car with four wheels, mate.
28:18And so, you've got that aspect of qualifying where you're just still trying to drive as fast as possible.
28:24I think the race side is then what's quite different because you've, you've got this phase of the race or
28:32phase of the straight where you lift off the throttle, you close for a little bit, almost like fuel saving.
28:37But it's, it's energy saving.
28:40And then you've got a phase of the braking where we're recuperating a lot of energy on the brakes to
28:49put back into the car and to have more efficiency.
28:54So, it means that, yeah, there's some different techniques to learn from the racing side, but from a qualifying side,
28:59it's still pretty much flat out.
29:02And, I like that challenge as well.
29:04I mean, I think you watch a lot of races these days and I think one's been a lot closer
29:10lately.
29:11I really enjoy watching it.
29:14But, I watched a lot of other series and there's no passing.
29:18You know who's going to win after the start.
29:19It's a bit boring.
29:20Whereas, in FE man, like, anything can happen.
29:23But, yeah, I really can.
29:24Following, like, the races, you'd be thinking, okay, this guy is leading now, all right, but you don't really have
29:29the pit stops.
29:30You don't really have that kind of thing.
29:32So, it's really a lot of the strategy on the, on the track, the attack modes, the boost zones and
29:39stuff like this.
29:40But then you're still going to be fast, right?
29:41Exactly.
29:42All that's going on, but it's still going to be fast.
29:44And, the last two races now, I've been leading with eight laps to go.
29:49Any other championship, you're like, all right, what does the trophy look like and where's the after party?
29:56You know?
29:57In former eight, eight laps to go, you're like, anything can happen.
30:03Speaking of the last races, you've done really well recently.
30:06Like, last race was in Brazil, right?
30:08Got second there.
30:09Yeah, last race has been good, man, but there's still, like, so long to go in the championship.
30:15There's still 10 races left.
30:17We're still pretty, pretty, well, the season's still young.
30:20So, um.
30:21There's a Kiwi talking here, you know?
30:23Talking it down.
30:24Nah, I've got to talk it down.
30:26Yeah, of course.
30:26I've just been saying, you know, the races are crazy and anything can happen.
30:30And I'm sure maybe one of these next races, it could even be my next race, it's a no points
30:35or it's a tough day.
30:36And that's, um, that's part of the sport, right?
30:39So, it's been amazing to have some good ones, but try not to really celebrate them yet because it's still
30:44so long to go.
30:46But do you think that with the, um, let's say the podiums, I know you've had, you've had three podiums
30:52this, this season.
30:54And they've been consecutive.
30:56Yeah.
30:56And let's say the first three races, you were doing X position and X position.
31:01And then kind of got it podium there, podium there, podium there.
31:06Do you feel that there is this flow sort of thing you're riding on that you feel with the previous
31:13race or something that, okay, I can, I can definitely do it again.
31:17Yeah, I think so.
31:19I mean, saying that, I think the next track has been a bit of a bogey track for us the
31:23last few years.
31:23So, it's nice to, in a way, almost have that because it keeps you on your toes.
31:30It doesn't let you get too confident.
31:32You know that the next one's still going to be tough, that I've got to work my ass off to
31:35be prepared as best as I can because it's not going to be easy, right?
31:40But certainly the last few races have given you big confidence.
31:43I mean, I can walk into nightclubs now with my sunglasses on.
31:46Oh.
31:49With that.
31:50I'm kidding.
31:50With that.
31:52I'm kidding.
31:53I'm kidding.
31:53But I know that the next races you have coming up in Berlin, right?
31:56Yeah.
31:57There you'll need your sunglasses at night.
31:58Sean and I just visited Berlin this weekend and I'll tell you, man.
32:02It really is something, like is something.
32:07It's an experience, to say the least.
32:08It is an experience, mate.
32:10Berlin is a vibe.
32:11But you guys go out after the half?
32:15Yeah, we went out after the half.
32:16I'll tell you what happened, basically.
32:18I'm keen to hear this.
32:19We're running this Sunday, a half marathon of Berlin.
32:22And Sean, me and Ben.
32:23Good times, by the way.
32:24Thanks, mate.
32:25Good times.
32:26Appreciate it.
32:26We all put a solid effort down there.
32:28Everyone got a personal best out of it.
32:31Really?
32:31Yeah.
32:31Yeah, man.
32:32Huge.
32:33Cheers.
32:33And we crossed the line and already there, the first thing I'm having is an alcohol-free
32:38beer.
32:39An Erdinger.
32:40So already there, you're starting with the beers.
32:42I didn't drink, probably, water until we got home at midnight or something.
32:49Even then, we didn't drink any water because we didn't have any water.
32:52Right.
32:52The minibar was closed because the minibar was on me, so it was closed.
32:56Absolutely closed.
32:58And we just went straight for pizzas, beers.
33:02After that, we went for the bakery, beers, and then more beers, beers.
33:07Ended up in some donut kebab shop at 10 p.m.
33:11See, the thing is, Berlin has the potential to be a lot more, and some of the other runners
33:16we were running with, they went to clubs with certain types of swings and whatnot.
33:22Really?
33:22Really?
33:23Okay.
33:23Okay.
33:24And I think I'm actually quite happy we didn't go there.
33:27No names, Sharon, for the rest of Monaco?
33:30Actually, they don't live in Monaco, unfortunately.
33:32They're all from Manchester, those ones.
33:34Okay.
33:34Well, I mean the names of the clubs.
33:36Oh, I think the one the most people went to was the KitKat Club.
33:41KitKat.
33:42Okay.
33:43Be careful.
33:44You've just said this notification from EasyJet.
33:47Yeah.
33:47It needs to Berlin flights sold out.
33:51There you go.
33:52EasyJet will send you the invoice.
33:54They will, probably.
33:55They will.
33:55They will.
33:56Oh, sorry.
33:57That's cool.
33:58That's cool.
33:58I'm excited to follow the races in Berlin, but also in Monaco.
34:02That's sort of the next round as well, coming up real soon.
34:05A month's time or something, we're racing here.
34:08I'm pumped for that.
34:09Every year, pretty pumped.
34:10It's nice going down the front straight and around the port now, seeing all these grandstands,
34:16knowing they've put them up for us, and then they'll just get them up.
34:21Yeah.
34:21Yeah, exactly.
34:22That's essentially what it is.
34:26That's essentially what it is.
34:27You know, we'll be there on the grandstands, absolutely, 100%.
34:30But, like, what's it like to race in Monaco?
34:34You're now living here.
34:35You're racing in the city.
34:36You said that you did like also the street tracks quite a lot.
34:39I mean, Monaco is almost the least street-style circuit for us because, you know, they do
34:48such a good job with the roads here.
34:50It's all re-tarmax, you know, freshly sealed.
34:56So, there's hardly any bumps.
34:58It's super high grip.
35:00The track's quite fast for an FECA.
35:03That it's almost one of the most, say, racetrack tracks that we have.
35:09We go to Sao Paulo.
35:10We go to Rome.
35:11We go to these, or India.
35:14And we're on some pretty crazy roads, like there's some big jumps, bumps.
35:21You know, it's hectic.
35:22Have you seen an onboard camera?
35:24You will know what Nick's talking about.
35:25Yeah, I mean, but it makes it super fun.
35:27And then you come to Monaco and everything's super smooth, really nice.
35:31And you're like, okay, well, this is a bit different.
35:34But, no, it's an epic week.
35:35You know, you sleep at home.
35:36You walk down to the track.
35:40It's easy to be too chilled just because you're at home.
35:44You know, everything's pretty relaxed.
35:47But I'm looking forward to it.
35:49How do you keep yourself on toes for that weekend then?
35:54In what way?
35:55What do you mean?
35:55I mean, just to make sure that come race day, you are at your top.
36:00You'll be at home.
36:01You're in your, let's say, comfort zone in some way.
36:03Yeah.
36:04You still got to make sure that when race day is here, you know, you have that much more to
36:09give than the others.
36:10Because you're at home, you can really prepare yourself.
36:12Yeah, I think that's key is to not leave anything at home that you normally wouldn't and think, oh, it's
36:21fine because I can go back and get it or, you know, you're pretty chilled.
36:26Still pack your bag like you normally would.
36:28Still go to the track like you normally would.
36:30Stay in that race, race fine.
36:32I mean, that's what I try to do.
36:33And then sleeping in your own bed and being at home, everything else just becomes an advantage and not a
36:39negative.
36:41Yeah, it makes sense.
36:42I remember when I was, for example, competing with swimming, it would be so nice to have your own bed.
36:48But let's say the whole aspect of the competition would change dramatically from if I was staying at home or
36:54if I was at some hostel or somewhere else.
36:57Like my mindset would just be a bit more in a positive way, like if I was out, I would
37:03be a little bit more just like just trying to be more prepared, a little bit harder on myself, a
37:11little bit trying to get all these small things prepared for the race.
37:16Whereas you say exactly if you miss something from home, you can just go back and get it or something
37:21like making sure you're prepared to to every extent.
37:25Same thing, yeah, yeah, yeah, true, true.
37:27So that's, that's cool.
37:28Where's your favorite place to race?
37:31And Macau is probably doing your time in Japan, I imagine.
37:35I would say within Formula E, the past years I've really enjoyed New York.
37:41That's been for me, that's, I love the city.
37:45The race, we were in Brooklyn, the port, so a little bit out, I guess, of the city.
37:51But the whole week leading up to it, like, it's hectic, it's fun.
37:56I really enjoyed it there.
37:58Monaco's pretty hard to beat, I think, as well.
38:01It's special because it's home, but it's also probably the most iconic, you know, name and place.
38:08So yeah, those two are pretty big, I think.
38:11Cool.
38:12I know you're getting, like, in Formula E there's a lot, a lot of fans now.
38:18What's the weirdest thing a fan has ever asked you to sign?
38:23Their tits.
38:24Their tits?
38:25How does it feel just signing a pair of tits?
38:27I wouldn't know, mate.
38:30It's for everyone listening.
38:32Smart guy, this one, huh?
38:33Smart guy.
38:34PR trained.
38:35Yeah, very much so.
38:36You can definitely tell, 100%.
38:38That's funny.
38:39All right, if you could build your team at the moment, an imaginary team,
38:44and you had to choose one celebrity to be your teammate to race with.
38:48This is big.
38:48This is big.
38:49What celebrity would that be?
38:54I would choose Tom Cruise.
38:56Tom Cruise?
38:57Tom Cruise.
38:57Why?
38:58Big name, probably a lot of, probably common,
39:01not something out of the ordinary, I guess,
39:04but just got that persona, right?
39:11A bit of a man.
39:12Action sports, dude.
39:13Definitely, definitely, definitely.
39:15Who would you choose?
39:16Yeah, what do you guys say?
39:17I was actually just going to say,
39:19because I remember Sean asking me a question on another episode
39:24where it's like something about some celebrities or something.
39:28Who would you want to play you as a celebrity or something?
39:31And I picked Tom Cruise.
39:32I did.
39:33I did pick Tom Cruise as well.
39:35Okay.
39:35So I could definitely see you two vibe as well,
39:38like just taking the piss out of the garage,
39:41just having a great time.
39:42But it would be like, it's an interesting question, actually,
39:45because I don't think you can choose like an Adam Sandler.
39:49It would be weird.
39:51You know what I mean?
39:52You've got to have guys.
39:54100%.
39:55Who would you choose, Sean?
39:59Probably Ryan Reynolds.
40:01Okay.
40:02I think that one would just, you'd have a great time.
40:05He's funny, huh?
40:06Hilarious.
40:06Yeah, yeah, yeah.
40:07He's funny.
40:08That would actually be so funny to see you, Ryan Reynolds.
40:12I mean, all right, let's say they would make a movie out of you then.
40:16Okay.
40:16Who would play you?
40:20That I don't know.
40:21I think you guys would be better to choose.
40:24Who would you want to play you?
40:27Oh, man.
40:32I feel like you guys are going to be waiting too long for me to come up with an answer.
40:36I think someone to play you, let's say it's the new Rush movie or something,
40:43you know, like some movie with you on one side and then, I don't know,
40:49You know who I'd want to play me?
40:51Mark Wahlberg.
40:52That's cool.
40:54That's a good one.
40:55That's original.
40:56He's like, I find, yeah, maybe he's more positive.
41:03He's more energetic than me, but I think he's a big dog, right?
41:08I agree that he's a big, I think it's interesting to say Mark Wahlberg
41:12because what comes to mind for me with Mark Wahlberg is this dude that is,
41:17you know he's putting in the work every day.
41:19You know he's up at 2 a.m. in his little gym, you know, working out.
41:22He tells you about it, yeah.
41:23At least he tells you about it, yeah.
41:25But, I mean, you can tell that the guy has something going for him
41:29and that he is, he doesn't necessarily shout out what he's doing all the time,
41:34what he's putting in the work.
41:36Then you have someone like Drain Rock Johnson,
41:38you'll know he'll be putting in that work every day,
41:39but you also know that he's doing that because it'll be everywhere or something like this.
41:42Yeah, but he also couldn't play me, right?
41:44He couldn't play you.
41:45So I would actually think that it's interesting
41:48because I'm sure you're putting in the work for your career, for your profession,
41:54but it's not something that you are actively, you know, posting everywhere,
42:00telling everyone, hey, I'm doing this, hey, I'm doing that.
42:03Like, for example, you were one of the guys that joined us
42:06for the running challenge here in Monaco.
42:08And mind you guys that this is two marathons in two days
42:11and Nick was doing it as a sort of a weakened activity in between races.
42:16Yeah, but I didn't imagine you guys are.
42:18You guys are the machines.
42:20These guys have the pace.
42:22I'm just thinking, I can definitely tell you that Mark Wahlberg would be cool.
42:26It's a cool character, actually.
42:28Speaking about the 4x4x48, what was your kind of, looking back at it,
42:33What was your high point?
42:35What was the low point?
42:38Low point was, low point, I think, only stands out as the, say,
42:51like the knees or actual physical limitation because I feel cardio-wise
43:00or on a decent run I can be quite okay, and that's what we do training-wise.
43:04But I didn't expect that kind of, you know, you feel pain in weird areas.
43:10And I thought that probably that limits you, right, the last few runs.
43:16What I was actually really, really happy about was the fact that you messaged a week before
43:24and I was just like, all right, I'll do this.
43:27And I didn't really know the extent of the challenge or how much running it actually is.
43:31And then you kind of look at it and you go, holy shit, guys, this is a fair bit of
43:35running.
43:36Oh, actually, there's going to be no sleep.
43:37There's going to be, you know, and seeing you guys, the energy that you brought to it,
43:43you know, Otto Rife dead at 4 a.m. and you guys are speaker on, up, jumping,
43:48doing warm-ups and everything, you know, it gets you going.
43:51But it shows you as well that, hey, it doesn't matter, you know,
43:55probably never going to be more tired in my life, yet those things are achievable,
44:00still in that state of mind.
44:02And I think we're all guilty of having a 10-hour sleep and waking up and going,
44:08oh, I'm tired.
44:08But actually, that just proves to me that you're not.
44:13You know, you do 48 hours of running with an hour of sleep in between if you're lucky
44:17and you feel pretty good.
44:20So that was a massive positive for me looking back at that
44:24and how it's changed how I feel for each day since then.
44:28I think you get a really good understanding of your body.
44:31That's huge, man.
44:32That's huge.
44:32I don't know if that's correct or incorrect.
44:34That's how I feel.
44:35I don't know if you guys felt the same thing.
44:36No, I had that last year.
44:38You guys have done it twice now, right?
44:39That's the second time?
44:41Like after the first time I did it, I just felt like I could really do anything after that.
44:46Yeah.
44:46It was like you wake up and I know that you felt it as well.
44:50You wake up at 4 a.m. and you're like,
44:55I don't want to get out now.
44:57And then once you did, like, at what point of the runs were you like, okay, this is actually fun?
45:07Did you ever have that point?
45:08Or was it like until the end where it was like, eh?
45:10No, no, definitely it was.
45:13I found it way better when we were together.
45:16I think there was a run, maybe three to go.
45:19I dropped off you guys and you guys did a really good sprinted off.
45:23I think I did that one more or less solo.
45:26It was at the same pace that we'd been doing the others.
45:28But that was the point where you realize how nice it is running really good with people.
45:35Yeah, I think that was probably the only thing that I took out of it as well.
45:39Whereas, you know, you wake up at 4 a.m.
45:43You're like, oh, shit, this is tired.
45:44You get there and you see everyone else.
45:46You all joke about how tired you are and it makes it fun straight away.
45:51You start laughing.
45:52You're like, oh, there's music playing.
45:54There's police telling you this.
45:55Be quiet.
45:57But then not complaining to all the drug dealing kids at the parking lot.
46:02I mean, it's weird stuff, weird stuff happening at night in Monaco or somewhere.
46:06But it's true that when you share moments with others,
46:11it just becomes easier to do the stuff that isn't maybe too fun.
46:16It's not fun to stand there at 4 a.m. trying to get warm.
46:19Imagine doing it by yourself.
46:20Impossible.
46:21It's not impossible, it's just harder.
46:23No, but honestly, you even have done the hard part,
46:26which is the staying home, sort of alone, waking up there,
46:30getting in the car by yourself, driving to the place,
46:33speaking yourself into it.
46:35Imagine at my place.
46:36You guys had 12 of you staying there?
46:38We had eight.
46:39Eight.
46:39We were eight guys in one place.
46:42There were no beds for everyone.
46:44There were no bathrooms for everyone.
46:47But at least waking up,
46:49you would know that there would be one guy at least
46:51that would be pumped for the next run.
46:53and then it just compounds.
46:56I felt as well after every run,
46:57you guys were always the last to leave, first to arrive.
46:59We tried.
47:01I'm so happy that you've noticed that
47:03because that was really what we tried.
47:05Completely.
47:05We really tried to make sure that, you know,
47:07if you would put the time aside to say,
47:10I'm going to spend my Friday night,
47:12Saturday and Sunday to try and challenge myself,
47:15we would be putting in everything
47:17to make sure that you have a good time as well.
47:19That was really appreciated.
47:20That was really cool.
47:21Cheers, mate.
47:22Cheers.
47:22Very kind.
47:24And I was just happy that you, for example,
47:26with everything going on,
47:28still wanted to take the time
47:30and spend two days doing one thing,
47:33which necessarily isn't going to
47:37directly improve your driving.
47:39But indirectly, maybe you can take something away from it.
47:41It could be cool.
47:42Maybe.
47:42I think it's just nice to challenge yourself.
47:44Exactly.
47:44It doesn't matter what you do.
47:46It's awesome.
47:47And with 37 races entered so far in Formula E,
47:51the next challenge is up ahead for you.
47:54Race 38.
47:55Dang.
47:55I didn't know that.
47:56I didn't know that.
47:57A little fact there.
47:58Okay.
47:58There we go.
47:59I thought it was funny with your racing number.
48:01Yeah.
48:02Do you have a name for your race car?
48:04No.
48:06Then what was your first car?
48:08Like your first car that was your own.
48:10You drove around.
48:13So when I was living in the UK,
48:17just I guess financially,
48:19but I was living with my great auntie
48:23and she had a Ford Ka.
48:30Yeah.
48:30So I'd be driving that day to day.
48:33But I never owned a car.
48:35I was on the bus.
48:37I was borrowing friends' cars.
48:39Didn't have insurance.
48:40You know, just being a complete idiot.
48:41and driving safely,
48:44but in terms of not having insurance
48:46and those kind of things,
48:48I was always just trying to get from A to B.
48:51And then in Japan,
48:53I bought a Porsche 997 Turbo.
48:57Nice.
48:58That's my first car.
48:58Nice.
48:59And I was probably stupid,
49:02but it felt cool.
49:04You were just acting off hand
49:05from Tokyo Drift every night there after training.
49:08and that become my daily ride.
49:11So then I had a really cool gym there.
49:14I think it also brought a lot of routine for my life.
49:20So my last two years,
49:21I was at a place,
49:23they only have athletes and models.
49:27Yep.
49:28Yep.
49:28Models.
49:30And,
49:32but they do like everything to support my life
49:37outside of,
49:38so it's outside of racing or your sport.
49:40So it's your recovery.
49:41It's nutrition there.
49:44A good cafe there.
49:45That's,
49:46they take the micronutrients
49:48of every bit of food
49:50and your lifestyle.
49:52and then you've got your trainer
49:54and your training as well.
49:55So I'd be there from like nine to 12 most days.
49:58And,
49:59uh,
49:59not,
49:59that's not always just three hours training.
50:01That's maybe one hour training
50:03and two hours,
50:03something else,
50:04whatever it was.
50:05Um,
50:05but I just love driving across the bridge
50:08and driving the training
50:09and my car.
50:10Love that.
50:11Love that.
50:11Simple pleasures.
50:12You know,
50:12do you have a name for that car?
50:14No.
50:14No?
50:15I do.
50:16It's,
50:17when you're moving to Monaco,
50:18it's actually called a pain in the ass.
50:20Yeah.
50:22This is true.
50:24Monaco does have its faults there.
50:26You need to pain in the ass
50:27to drive around town.
50:29So it ended up being something
50:30I had to,
50:31to sell within two weeks
50:32and get rid of.
50:33Yeah.
50:34Fair enough.
50:35It's fair enough.
50:35Oh,
50:35you brought it from?
50:36No,
50:37I bought it in Japan.
50:38I was there,
50:39but I,
50:40I sold it.
50:40You left it there.
50:41All right.
50:41Fair.
50:42That would have been quite the stint
50:44to get that over here.
50:45Yeah.
50:45Well,
50:46we,
50:46um,
50:47I mean,
50:47I,
50:48I'm,
50:48I'm really happy
50:49with,
50:49uh,
50:49with,
50:50with our lovely chat here.
50:52Mate,
50:52if you're happy,
50:53I'm happy.
50:53That's awesome.
50:54That's very kind of you as well.
50:56So we're all happy then.
50:57And,
50:58uh,
50:58with those happy vibes,
50:59maybe we shall see the episode off.
51:02Yeah.
51:03Thank you guys.
51:04Thank you,
51:04Nick.
51:05Thank you for joining us.
51:06Thank you guys for listening.
51:08Yeah.
51:08Thanks for taking the time,
51:09mate.
51:09Appreciate it.
51:10No,
51:10really cool having a chat.
51:12Um,
51:13yeah,
51:14it's awesome.
51:14Good fun.
51:15That was good fun.
51:16It's nice.
51:17We have some good laughs.
51:18Yeah,
51:19indeed.
51:19Well,
51:20uh,
51:20in that case,
51:21thanks for listening guys.
51:22Yeah.
51:22And,
51:23uh,
51:23happy days.
51:24Ciao.