00:00Okay, something I've talked about and talked about quite a bit over the years
00:04is postseason awards.
00:07And we'll get back to your, there's a lot of Tiger techs coming in
00:09I want to get to, but what is the appropriate amount of outrage
00:13we should have for J.B. Bickerstaff finishing second
00:17in the coach of the year voting?
00:20I think there's a fair amount of outrage.
00:22I think it's a bit ridiculous because who wins it?
00:24The coach of Boston?
00:25Joe Mazzula.
00:26Yeah, I mean, I get it.
00:28They played the season without one of their top players
00:31for most of the season.
00:33Pistons played plenty of games without their top players.
00:36And the Pistons made a turnaround from 14 to 44 to 60.
00:42You know, did J.B. get snubbed last year?
00:46He didn't win it last year.
00:47Yeah, he got snubbed last year when he went from 14 to 44.
00:50Now you double down, you go 44 to 60.
00:53Number one seed.
00:54All this voting is done before the playoffs, if I'm not mistaken.
00:59And he's going to lose out to Boston?
01:03Look, I mean, how much outrage is there?
01:05Should you really be like, oh, shaking your fist in the sky?
01:08Of course not.
01:09But I just shake my head and say it's ridiculous that he's not.
01:13I mean, I think it was the obvious choice that he should have gotten it.
01:17It wasn't particularly close.
01:20Joe Mazzullo got 62 first place votes.
01:24J.B. Bickerstaff got 29.
01:27Mitch Johnson of San Antonio got 9.
01:31Nobody else got a first place vote.
01:3462 to 29.
01:37Now, I didn't spend every day watching Celtics basketball.
01:42And maybe this guy was a wizard.
01:46Coming out of timeouts all season long.
01:50But this feels more like, all right, Celtics coach did a hell of a job.
01:55That's the Celtics, man.
01:57That's Boston.
01:58We've been paying attention.
01:58We pay attention to Boston.
02:02Oh, and also the Detroit guy wasn't bad.
02:04Is this more of a, it's just Boston gets people's attention more than Detroit gets people's attention?
02:12Could be.
02:13I mean, the Celtics lost in the first round of the playoffs.
02:15So obviously this is, you know, voting preseason.
02:19But it's before the postseason, yeah.
02:22It could be.
02:23It's just more, you know, love for the blue blood that is the Celtics.
02:28It could be.
02:30And I'm not saying that what they did was he did a terrible job.
02:33Obviously, he did a great job.
02:35When you lose Tatum for the year, effectively, I mean, I think he played 16 games at the end of
02:39the season.
02:40But you had to go on the season without him.
02:42And you win 40-something games without him.
02:47Okay, that's a nice run.
02:49And he's done a heck of a job.
02:51But I think to say convincingly there was a better job than what J.B. Bickerstaff did with the Pistons?
02:59That doesn't make sense to me.
03:01You guys also forgot that Kenny Atkinson won the analytical coach of the year?
03:06Well, you want to know.
03:12We should ask Kenny Atkinson.
03:13There is a game five because analytically it's two to two.
03:16So there is a.
03:16Yeah, they're going to keep playing the series.
03:20Here's a crazy fact, though.
03:23Of the last three Piston coaches, the previous two have won NBA Coach of the Year.
03:31As Piston coaches?
03:32No.
03:33But Dwayne Casey won it in Toronto and Monte Williams won it in Phoenix.
03:36The guy in Detroit who's done an elite job, better than the two of them did, he hasn't won it.
03:45But Dwayne Casey and Monte Williams have the Coach of the Year trophy on their resumes.
03:52But this guy, who's overseen this unbelievable turnaround, gets snubbed.
03:57I don't know what my outrage should be here.
03:59Well, it is.
04:00I mean, I don't think there's a wrong answer.
04:01I think if you're super pissed, I mean, go for it if you're not pissed at all.
04:06Somewhere in between, I think J.B. Bickerstaff is the Coach of the Year.
04:09I would have voted for J.B. Bickerstaff.
04:11Joe Mazzula, obviously, is a really good coach, too.
04:13It's funny to me that they gave the award to a guy who doesn't care about the award at all.
04:17Joe Mazzula said the award's dumb and he doesn't even want it.
04:19And then he gets voted to Coach of the Year.
04:22But I'll say this.
04:24I hate hypocrisy in anything in life, okay?
04:28I've been told all year long by the national media that Detroit is not a good basketball team.
04:34Vegas comes out.
04:35They're like the fourth or fifth best odds to win it.
04:37Saying, basically, they're not that good, right?
04:40If they're not that good and they won 60 games, how the hell did it happen is all I would
04:44say.
04:45Right?
04:46How did they win 60 games?
04:48No, this team is not good.
04:49They don't have good players.
04:50No one respects them, right?
04:52They're not on our level.
04:53We want them in the playoffs.
04:55Then how did they win 60 games?
04:56So I just think, like, you know, I think Bakers have to get a little screwed here.
05:00It is what it is.
05:01But we move on.
05:03It's a very valid point.
05:06It's apparently an undermanned roster.
05:09That's what I was told all year.
05:11That won 60 games.
05:12Not that good.
05:13Not that respected.
05:14They won 60 games over the one seed.
05:16How?
05:19One might conclude it's coaching.
05:21Maybe.
05:22Maybe coaching has something to do with it.
05:23It sounds like your level of outrage is actually rather high.
05:26I'm just giving it, I'm giving more ammo to the people that are pissed.
05:292, 4, 8, 5, 3, 9, 9, 7, 8.
05:31Well, I do want to ask the Piston fans, how does this happen?
05:34How do you think this happens?
05:37Why does this happen?
05:39Because they lost a star player for most of the season.
05:43And Detroit was playing shorthanded for a bunch of the season as well.
05:46Yeah, they played shorthanded, right.
05:47But Cade missed his time towards the end of the season.
05:51They played all but 16 games without Jason Tatum.
05:55And knowing that ahead of time.
05:57And to see that they kept the team afloat magically.
06:01You're looking for an answer.
06:02I'm going to say that's it.
06:03Because they still ended up being the second team,
06:07the number two seed in the Eastern Conference,
06:08despite Jason Tatum only playing 16 games.
06:11That's the way they're going to look at it.
06:12Carson Anderson, open lines, 2, 4, 8, 5, 3, 9, 97, 97, 97, 97, 1.
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