00:00Last night, I thought this was pretty interesting.
00:03Daniel Jeremiah is a guy we've had on the show.
00:05I think he is a really level-headed, he played college football,
00:12worked in NFL front offices, worked for the Ravens for a long time.
00:16He's a dude I value his opinion and kind of believe in.
00:22And he had this theory.
00:24He said to build a championship foundation, right?
00:28You need to fill these 12 spots.
00:32And he laid it out by number.
00:34And I want to kind of examine Washington through this lens.
00:37Quarterback, one.
00:40Offensive playmakers, three.
00:43Quality offensive linemen, three.
00:46I agree.
00:49Two pass rushers and three additional defensive playmakers.
00:54So that's 12 players.
00:56So you're saying you need five people based on defense that can do all those things?
01:00You need – I think that the key component to this is you need five, like,
01:07good to great players defensively and then seven offensively.
01:14Good to great to be a real championship contender.
01:17Okay.
01:17Like, you need an entire roster.
01:20But of where you need real exceptional talent, I think it's a fair look at NFL rosters.
01:27Because the salary cap, the NFL draft, free agency, however you want to examine it,
01:31like, not everybody's going to be making 25 mil a year.
01:35True.
01:35But you have to have some of those guys to make it work also.
01:38Yeah.
01:38You know what I mean?
01:40And I think, like, if you look at – I mean, you look at your 91 team.
01:47Mm-hmm.
01:48Quarterback rip at that stage, absolutely a checkmark.
01:52Offensive playmakers, I mean, you had three receivers.
01:55Three receivers.
01:56You had EB.
01:57The way you guys ran the ball.
01:59And Gerald.
01:59I think the quality O-line.
02:01That was definitely there.
02:02It was five.
02:04Pass rushers was outrageous.
02:06Charles, Eric Green, who was coming from the inside.
02:10Jumpy, you know.
02:11And then –
02:11Playmakers.
02:12You had –
02:13Wilbur blitzing everyone so often.
02:15You had Wilbur.
02:16You had Monty.
02:17You had Daryl.
02:18Brad Edwards was a bad man back there.
02:20Brad Edwards was destroying people.
02:21Yeah, dude.
02:21Like, so even if you look at Darnold.
02:25You look at Seattle last year.
02:28And Darnold in Jigba, Kenneth Walker.
02:30Yeah.
02:31I mean, you still had Cooper Cupp.
02:33The O-line was strong.
02:34They had pass rushers for days.
02:37They had defensive playmakers for days.
02:39Like, I think there is some – there's something to this theory that I at least find interesting.
02:45I agree, but I just think that some teams may have that makeup a little different.
02:51Some guys may have two cornerbacks that could be shut down, which make you don't have to have the great
02:57pass rusher because now you're giving them time to get there.
02:59You know, so I think his basis, his head on.
03:05But every team will not have exactly that set up.
03:08I think defensively there could be more fluidity to it, right?
03:12Like, if you have a truly elite secondary across the board and just one pass rusher, that can work.
03:16Yeah.
03:16But I think looking at this – so I tweeted this last night, and I think people completely misunderstood what
03:22I was saying.
03:23Are you shocked?
03:25No.
03:26But even, like, people that – not just, like – what do you call them?
03:30Not just the bots.
03:31Like, people I know and interact with misunderstood.
03:34I think QB for Washington is a checkmark.
03:37I think Jaden Daniels is a checkmark.
03:39I think O-line, I think they certainly have three quality O-linemen.
03:45I would say Tunsell, Cosme, and I'm counting Connelly.
03:49Connelly, yeah.
03:49Didn't miss a snap last year.
03:52Chris Paul was pretty good last year.
03:53Maybe Brandon Coleman emerges there.
03:55Chris Paul was damn good.
03:56I don't share the concern over Nick Allegretti that others do, but we'll see what happens, right?
04:00That's why they play the games.
04:02But I think you could say they have three quality offensive linemen.
04:05So, on the offensive side of the ball, as far as, like, I think to qualify, to get a checkmark
04:11on this,
04:14means it's a sure thing.
04:16It's something definitive.
04:17Not we think this player can become, because if we're doing we think this player can become,
04:22there's a lot more checkmarks here.
04:24But who are they?
04:25So, your offensive playmakers, Terry McLaurin, check.
04:30Terry, Jaden.
04:32But Jaden's your quarterback.
04:33Yeah, but that's a playmaker, too.
04:34That's true.
04:35You know, you can't take that away from him.
04:38He's a playmaker.
04:38But so, I didn't put the checkmark next to three offensive playmakers.
04:42I understand Terry absolutely solves that.
04:45He's one of three.
04:46And I think Chig could be.
04:48Chig could be.
04:49Bill could be this year.
04:51Bill could be.
04:52You wonder what Antonio Williams can become.
04:54Like, I think there are a lot of dudes that might.
04:56Like, if we did this exercise next year.
04:59You could put a legitimate two checks right now.
05:01You'd say Jaden with his legs.
05:03I'd go with Jaden and Terry.
05:03And I think one guy needs to immerse.
05:06Possibly two.
05:07I mean, Rashard White is a third down menace.
05:11He can be that guy on third down for you.
05:13And if he can come in and every time he touched the ball, get first downs, that's a help.
05:18Like, if you go back to 24, when this team went 12-5 and went to the NFC title game,
05:24your three offensive playmakers, I think your three leading receivers on the team, were Terry, Ertz, Eckler.
05:29Yeah.
05:30Now, they're trying to recreate that in some capacity with Terry, Chig, and maybe it's a combination of Bill and
05:36White, or it's White emerges in that role.
05:38But, like, three offensive playmakers doesn't have to be Higgins, Chase, you know what I mean?
05:45Like, it can look different.
05:47It's how you generate offense.
05:49Like, if you look at the Lions, and it's Brown, Laporta, and Jameson Williams.
05:56Like, it can be a lot of different things.
05:58When you look at the Ravens, you are going to definitely put Lamar as a playmaker.
06:01Sure.
06:02100%.
06:03Yeah.
06:03So, offensively, I think they're closer there.
06:10Defensively, pass rusher.
06:12They spent a lot of money to get Odafa away.
06:14Yeah.
06:14They need him to be a double-digit sack guy.
06:16Totally.
06:17Is that a checkmark?
06:18Do we know that?
06:19We don't know it's a checkmark, but he's like that guy, I think he's right there.
06:23He's kind of like Wimby.
06:25He's coming.
06:26He ain't there yet.
06:27Yeah.
06:28And we don't know yet.
06:29Yeah, we need to see it a little bit.
06:30Yeah, we need to see it.
06:32So, how do you think Dorrance is going to be coming back?
06:34I think Dorrance is a huge, interesting question.
06:38I think Louvoo in a new defense is a huge, interesting question.
06:42That's questions.
06:43We saw two years ago Frankie's ability to rush the passer.
06:46Last year, things got a lot more convoluted.
06:49Straight pass rusher is an interesting one because you're allowed to get interior push.
06:55Kinlaw, I don't think, is a straight pass rusher.
06:57I think he's kind of a man-eater, space-eater.
07:01Payne has previously shown an ability to get the passer.
07:05Johnny Newton was supposed to be that dude.
07:07But I think Kinlaw and Payne, if they can be more dominant inside, it allows for the Dorrance Armstrong, the
07:18Dolphite Owey to become those guys that they are capable of being.
07:22You wonder what Calevon Chason can be.
07:25You wonder what Charles Menehu can be.
07:27But I think if you're asking me to list two pass rushers that you can count on, or the closest
07:34to two pass rushers that you think you can count on, it would be Owey, who they just signed for
07:40a lot of money, and Armstrong.
07:42Coming off injury.
07:43Right, so neither of those are full-scale check marks to me.
07:47Then three defensive playmakers.
07:50You can't check them in yet, but Stiles.
07:54Seventh overall pick.
07:55You're hoping.
07:58We're hoping in a year from now, that's the easiest check on the box.
08:02Right?
08:02But you can't say it right now.
08:04And then you think what a defensive playmaker means.
08:08And you wonder what Chenault's going to be.
08:12And I know he had a down year last year.
08:15Mikey.
08:15Mikey.
08:16He's.
08:22A better defense, better pass rush, he will be even more opportunistic.
08:27He needs to be better if he's going to be on the outside, period.
08:30Yeah.
08:30But, like, he does see the football.
08:33And that is part of playmaking on the defensive side of the ball.
08:36The thing about being better on the outside means that quarterback doesn't have all day.
08:41Right.
08:41So, last year, when people were talking, was just knocking him, wasn't a consistent pass rush.
08:47No.
08:48And I don't care who you are as a defensive back.
08:50You're not holding a guy for four, five, six seconds.
08:53It's not happening.
08:54Well, and you remember, I mean, I was high on Quan Martin.
08:58I thought he had a really impressive playoff run.
09:01The pick six in Detroit was pretty wild.
09:07I thought he was going to have a big season last year.
09:09Didn't happen.
09:10One thing I appreciate about Quan and Mikey, end of year, they both were like, we've got to be better.
09:15We've got to figure some stuff out.
09:17I think the lack of pass rush.
09:18I also think the Joe Witt scheme was just so vanilla and teams could just torch it.
09:22And I don't think it'll look like that in the new Durante Jones system.
09:27You've got Revo flying around to the football.
09:30I think that exercise is interesting because I think it's a bit of a reality check as far as knowns
09:39versus unknowns.
09:40But I think what it does, it also gives you, like we go into training camp and preseason.
09:48A lot of times guys are just looking for big plays to see what they can be looking for in
09:53the season.
09:54That right there lets you know what you're looking for.
09:57If you were to put that up today and write down names and want to put the check marks, you
10:03can't completely put check marks by everybody.
10:05Right.
10:05But there are people with question marks that you think could become that.
10:10Watch a little preseason.
10:12Watch the beginning of the first four games.
10:14Then you start to see where you're at.
10:16Now, you may start off the season without it because you don't know.
10:21By week four or five, if you now know, you should expect something different in that latter part of the
10:27season.
10:28It's interesting and it's also interesting to look as a prism to view other teams, right?
10:34Yeah.
10:35Like Philly has check marks.
10:38Yeah.
10:38Dallas, particularly offensively, has check marks.
10:41The Giants, to me, I think have a lot more questions.
10:44But even within the NFC East, it's an interesting look at how things stack up.
10:49And it's only an off-season tool.
10:51Because once you get into the season, injuries, attrition.
10:55Like football changes constantly based on who's healthy and able to go.
10:59But still, you still can look at that because that backup can't be too far.
11:04Or, like, you know, I've always stated, I know you can't spend the same money for your backups.
11:09In some positions, you might have to spend a little bit more money.
11:13So when you lose a top guy, that next guy is not so damn far behind that it affects how
11:18you try to play.
11:19And I think that's all of that.
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