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Terry McLaurin is very confident in his new offensive coordinator heading into the season.
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00:00I want to start because I asked Terry about the trip to LA and kind of what it meant.
00:05And I think what stood out to me there is he said, Jaden set it up and that Terry's
00:13not the biggest LA guy.
00:15He said, which is kind of interesting knowing Terry a little bit.
00:18Like he, he likes to be quiet and Los Angeles is not, but I know stretch.
00:23He said, you know, Jaden set it up and it was a bonding thing.
00:26And he's like, we didn't really have the offense yet, but I wanted to be there.
00:29And so they were there.
00:31Right.
00:31Um, and they got some good work in, and then I kind of asked, what about this offense with
00:38David Blau?
00:39And here was Terry's response.
00:42And I specifically remember David Blau at his introductory press conference said, I want
00:46to get Terry McLaurin 10 targets a game.
00:48How is this new David Blau?
00:50Yeah, it's been really fun working with Blau.
00:52Um, honestly, you know, I've known him for a really long time, you know, a little tidbit
00:57like if I wouldn't have committed to Ohio State and went to Purdue, he would have been
00:59my quarterback.
01:00So, you know, I've kind of loosely followed his career for a long time.
01:03And, you know, obviously him being part of our staff, uh, he's just done a great job
01:06since he's been here.
01:07I think he's a master communicator.
01:09You know what I mean?
01:10I think he does a good job of explaining what his expectations are.
01:13Um, but also he's personable enough to be able to communicate how he wants it done and
01:18also holding a standard that, uh, is going to force us to continue to raise our level
01:24of play.
01:24And, um, it's just been fun to, to, to learn an offense that is going to be multiple, that's
01:30going to put guys in situations to have a lot of success and, and move guys around,
01:34you know what I mean?
01:35To find advantageous, uh, matchups.
01:37So, um, you know, I'm, I'm super excited and, uh, you know, I told him as long as he
01:43can still kind of throw me the ball on game day, he's in my game day throw, thrower.
01:46So I told Danny Etling, he may have to get, he may have to get that call up, you know,
01:50cause Blouse is going to have a lot of other things to focus on, but it's been super fun.
01:53You know what I mean?
01:54I think, uh, him being so young in this space, he, he, he comes with very new, fresh, bright
01:59ideas and, um, you know, I, I just respect his come up, you know what I mean?
02:04From a player, uh, to now a coach and he's earned everything that has come to him.
02:08So it's not a surprise by me.
02:10He got the opportunity that he did.
02:11And I know he's ready to seize it.
02:12He says he wants to get you 10 targets a game.
02:14I love that.
02:15I love that.
02:16You know, he's, he told me that, uh, way back in February, he texted me that him and
02:20I have a really good relationship and, you know, he's been a man of his word.
02:23And, you know, my job is to, uh, prove that each and every day when we're having workouts,
02:27to, to be the leader, to be someone who's can, you can count on to be on the field and
02:31make plays.
02:32And that's all I've been asking for.
02:33That's all I want.
02:34So, uh, to win games and have a big part of that.
02:37So, uh, I was definitely smiling when I saw that come across his phone and, you know,
02:42from OTAs and stuff, I could definitely tell that's going to be a part of it along with
02:45the other guys as well.
02:46You know, there's going to be opportunities for me to take away coverage for Chig and for,
02:51um, you know, Trey and, you know, Bill and just so many other guys on our offense.
02:56So I think that's cool when you have a multiple, uh, office that has multiple looks and formations
03:01can make things look the same and marry together.
03:03Uh, it provides opportunities for everybody.
03:08So there's a lot to kind of break down there.
03:11I want to start B the fact that Terry and Blau have had a relationship on some level since
03:18high school.
03:18What does that mean?
03:20Well, I don't know if it necessarily means much when it comes down to the football, but
03:25you know what, it's, it's guys that respect each other.
03:28And I think when you have a level of respect for people, you know, you get past a lot of
03:33the BS because normally when you don't have respect, you have to get beyond that.
03:37So you can have the level of success.
03:39Uh, I think it'd be easier for them to do the things.
03:41And then when Blau says something, he's don't believe it.
03:44You know, I think there's trust.
03:45Yeah.
03:46Yeah.
03:46Respect, trust, all that comes in hand in hand.
03:49And so, so I think that right there, I mean, all, everything they're doing, it would be
03:54working towards having a successful, having a successful offense, a successful season.
03:59They don't have to go through the, let's build the level of trust first.
04:02Sure.
04:03And that can normally screw stuff up.
04:04I, I also think when Blau said the 10 targets a game thing is introductory presser, there
04:14are, oh, there are offensive coordinators out there that love kind of saying bombastic
04:20stuff, making headlines and perhaps building their own resume to get a head coaching job
04:25somewhere.
04:26Right?
04:26Like we see that all the time.
04:27That is very real.
04:29Blau is not that dude.
04:30He is quiet.
04:31He is reserved.
04:33When he said that at the podium, Terry revealed there, he had already texted him that.
04:38And so for me, what I find more important, and I thought Terry was so dead on and smart
04:43about, we also have to run the ball well.
04:49We also need to get Chig a ton of looks.
04:52And he mentioned Traylon Burks by name, like the path to, so I think we need to remove some
04:59the, the literal sense of the word.
05:02I looked this up.
05:0510 targets a game over 17 games means 170 targets.
05:09That is not necessarily what the numbers need to be.
05:14There's only three receivers over the last two seasons that have gotten to 170.
05:18But see, I think him saying, I want to give him 10 targets a game don't mean I'm going
05:24to get it to him.
05:25Right.
05:25Yeah.
05:26But what it does mean to me is identifying an alpha receiver that we have to make sure
05:32gets the ball.
05:33Yeah.
05:33No matter kind of what, how many halves and sometimes games.
05:37And we've seen where Terry gets two looks and they won't just find them on a slant, just
05:41find some way to get the ball in his hands.
05:43Yeah.
05:44Right.
05:44And I think that's the thing where you look at basketball players and they say, just get
05:50them a layup.
05:51Right.
05:52You know, and then all of a sudden they begin to cook.
05:55Terry is the type of guy, you throw him a slant, hell, he may catch or get hit and still
06:00go 40 for you.
06:01And I think that is the thing about it.
06:03But there were times over the last two years where they act like he wasn't on the field.
06:09I don't think Blow is going to feel like that.
06:11But Terry is smart enough to understand sometimes I'm going to be the one setting it up for
06:17somebody else, blowing the top off for a chig to come underneath to somebody like that.
06:22You heard him say specifically about running multiple sets and pre-snap motion and just
06:31different looks.
06:33Right.
06:33And I think that's what we're going to see from a Blow offense.
06:36I'm not knocking Cliff's offense because in 24, it was fantastic.
06:40Last year, it wasn't.
06:40But like Cliff runs a one of one.
06:44And I know fans got offended when it when opposing defenses would say it was kind of
06:50a college style.
06:51It's a unique style, whatever you want to call it, college, its own, whatever the air
06:56raid, whatever you want to call it like this Ben Johnson offense that David Blau will at
07:02least take big parts of is far more traditional pro style under center.
07:06You know, like play action bootlegs.
07:09And I think that will work to the advantage.
07:14And we don't want to make this direct comparison to Ben Johnson because Blau has been clear that
07:18he's going to take stuff from other people.
07:20He played under Cliff.
07:21He's got his own ideas.
07:22Like there's going to be a lot of factors here.
07:25But if you look at the last four seasons for Ben Johnson, recognizing that Amon Ross St.
07:33Brown differentiated himself as an alpha type receiver.
07:37Take time.
07:39St. Brown in Detroit for the three years Ben Johnson was running that program, running that
07:43offense from 22 to 24 St.
07:46Brown averaged 150 targets a game about a year, a year, a year.
07:51Yeah.
07:52That'd be a game.
07:53I would love that.
07:54Terry's had more than 130 targets once and is three years removed now from even getting
08:02to one 30.
08:03Okay.
08:04So Terry has gotten, there were some volume years there in when Scott Turner was running
08:10the offense, but the volume's never been as significant as you see other kind of true
08:16number ones get.
08:18And what I find even more interesting for Ben Johnson's offenses, especially in Detroit,
08:23when that thing was really functioning at a high level in 2024, when Detroit was excellent
08:30and was where they, they were the one seat, right?
08:32Didn't they have the buy?
08:33And that's how Washington beat them in the divisional game.
08:37Ross St.
08:38Brown had 141 targets that year.
08:40Jamison Williams largely stayed healthy.
08:42He had 91 targets.
08:44And then Sam Laporta, the tight end had 83.
08:47I don't know that Washington has a receiver that will generate the type of target share
08:52Jamison Williams did, but you'd like to think they have a tight end in a Conquo that could
08:57get to a 75, 80 target like Laporta.
09:01Go back to 2023.
09:03Now, Jamison Williams was hurt most of that year.
09:04He only played in 12 games.
09:06He only started like seven.
09:08So he, he, he wasn't a ton of work.
09:11St.
09:11Brown got 164 targets that year.
09:13Yeah.
09:15Laporta got 120 targets that year.
09:17So they were identifying kind of the best guys to get the football to, and they spread
09:23it around a little bit too.
09:24But Goff was going to his guys.
09:26Damn near 300.
09:28Between those two guys.
09:29Yeah.
09:30Go back to 2022.
09:31Amon Ross St.
09:32Brown had 146 targets.
09:34Now, maybe we're going too far back to these Detroit teams to try to get a sense of what
09:38these numbers look like.
09:40Right.
09:40And Johnson was the coach of the Bears last year.
09:43And the Bears offense is tricky to maybe extrapolate too much from.
09:50But you, for me, I just wonder, did he find his alpha that he wanted Caleb to look to?
09:56I don't know if he did, but I think his quarterback is a different guy compared to Jared Goff.
10:01Totally.
10:02Caleb's going to move around and do some things.
10:03Then he wants to make that magnificent throw.
10:07That's not Goff.
10:08Goff is going to hit his back foot and let that thing fly.
10:10100%.
10:10Now, you would think going into the year, they'd want that guy to be DJ Moore.
10:15He was the veteran.
10:16In 17 games, DJ Moore had 85 targets.
10:20They have since traded him.
10:22Yeah.
10:22I'm not saying doghouse, but it seemed like there were some differences of opinion there.
10:26Well, I watched some body language in some games where I'm running a hook, I'm running
10:31a slant, I'm running a post or whatever.
10:34And when I come out of my break, I'm wide open, ball's not there.
10:39And then all of a sudden now, two seconds later, the ball's thrown at a spot that you
10:45don't ever expect to get that.
10:46Right.
10:46And I think that was a part of that issue where there are some receivers who, they're
10:51going to let you know, look, when I come out of this, I expect the ball to be there.
10:56And there are some guys who get it to them and some guys who, well, you know, I got to
11:00do my thing first.
11:02This, I found interesting though, because to me, you can't take it too literal.
11:06Let's not get in like a semantics test here.
11:08If he doesn't get 170 targets on the season, is it a failure?
11:11Because that's unrealistic.
11:12I think he didn't get that thought out of the head.
11:14He said, I would try to get him.
11:16Right.
11:16But you're not going to get into every game.
11:18I think it's about though, identifying your alpha and wanting to get that guy the ball
11:23and that being game plan specific.
11:24Right.
11:26Roma Dunze, second year kid out of Washington, only played 12 games, had 90 targets.
11:35That's to me what you're looking for.
11:37And, and.
11:38But I just think, listen, man, we've watched Terry already for all these years and you watch
11:44him with the coaches that did not throw the ball to him as much as other teams threw it
11:48to their top guys.
11:49And the guy made plays and made animals and was top notch.
11:53Then if you just give him more opportunities, more than likely he's going to have bigger
11:59game, a bigger season than he normally would have because Terry has shown with a little,
12:04I can produce a lot.
12:06Now, if I'm that guy, give it to me more often and let's see what can happen.
12:10And I believe that's all this.
12:12Just adding a little bit more to it or in situations where we know he can be having an advantage,
12:18move him and get him on to be the, the number one guy instead of sitting him in a spot
12:23where
12:23a team can game plan for him.
12:27I think just getting back to pre-snap motion and moving him around, I think it's going to
12:34be really advantageous.
12:35And I think that's really advantageous for the rest of the receiver room too.
12:38I think it's advantageous for Antonio Williams, um, Chig, I think Rashad White, I think Rashad
12:44White comes in and can play that Eckler role a lot that McNichols is good at, but not the
12:52same type of explosiveness.
12:53McNichols ability to break tackles for a third down back is really, really strong, but I think
12:59offensively it's just, it's the next step and you know, things get stale or you also
13:05had a ton of injuries last year.
13:06So you don't want to try to act like last year was such a mess when it was hard to
13:11judge.
13:11I mean, Terry only played 10 games, but I do think the level of excitement for a new offense
13:17with David Blau is, is real and is sincere.
13:21I'm curious for these fans and we can open the phones on this 800-636-1067, 800-636-1067.
13:31Where are you at on the confidence meter in David Blau?
13:34Because I think there's a lot to like.
13:38I called my shot with this dude a year ago.
13:40I thought he would be the OC.
13:41Some of that was, I thought Cliff would be getting a head coaching job.
13:44That didn't happen, but Blau is the OC.
13:47But at the same time, when we get to week one in the link, September 13th, and you got
13:52a fourth and four with the game on the line in the fourth quarter, he's never been in that
13:58chair.
13:58Yeah.
13:59So how, how confident are you and Blau be?
14:03I mean, look, my whole thing, Jay, everybody in the NFL, I don't care what round they were
14:09picked, when, when they became a coach, they all had to start off somewhere.
14:13Right.
14:13And for the most part, there are guys that build themselves to something and some guys
14:17that don't.
14:18I look at Blau just like I look at a first round, second round, third round draft pick.
14:23Somebody saw something to him to give him an opportunity.
14:27And based off of what I've heard and the stuff I've heard Terry say and Jaden say, I think
14:34the dude was doing more when he didn't have a title.
14:38So these guys respect him at it.
14:41So now for me, it's for, to see how, once he starts, the level of growth he can have.
14:47Because I don't expect anybody to get their job for the first time and be perfect at it.
14:51You have to grow.
14:52And it comes down to how quick can you grow?
14:55So if he's growing at a rapid pace, by the end of the season, we'll be like, damn, this
15:01dude here really has something or he needs a little bit more growth or we might think
15:05he don't have it.
15:06I think it won't be that.
15:10I mean, where I give Dan Quinn a lot of credit is he knew he had to shake things up
15:16and he
15:17has rolled the dice with two first time coordinators.
15:20And I don't know that if it goes poorly, he can outrun it.
15:24I don't know that any of them can, but if it goes well, it's going to look really, really
15:30good on him for giving these guys the opportunities.
15:33I think offensively with Blau, there is a learning curve that like if somebody gets their driver's
15:43license, you can drive with your parents, you can drive with the instructor, but until
15:48you're driving on the beltway at rush hour, you're never going to experience that.
15:52True.
15:52And for Blau, that's just the reality of the situation.
15:55Like they're going to have these joint practices and there's going to be preseason games.
15:59But until we get to Philly and that clock speeding up and that crowd's loud as hell and
16:05he's wondering exactly what to do, like we'll never know it, but he's a cerebral ass dude,
16:10man.
16:11And he's played the position in the league and understands what, what helps is a young quarterback,
16:16what doesn't, and I think there's real reason for confidence, even if from the outside looking
16:22in, it's like, man, I don't know about that.
16:24I want to let the callers weigh in.
16:25Let's go to my guy, Rusty, in Delaware real quick.
16:27What's up, Rusty?
16:28How confident are you in this David Blau situation?
16:31How we doing today?
16:32Good, man.
16:34Hey, super confident, Blau.
16:36And, you know, I've read kind of the tea leaves about how people say that he's really good
16:40at communication.
16:41He's got some real strong ideas coming from Coach Johnson.
16:45But my thing is, is number one, he's a smart dude and smart dudes know how to put together
16:51effective game plans.
16:52And he also, while he reached the pinnacle, played in the NFL, he wasn't really like a
16:57top 10 player.
16:58In my opinion, is the best coaches weren't always the best players.
17:02So for him to come in and kind of be able to put his hands around everything and make
17:06it his own, his personality, I think, I think he's going to be one of the good ones.
17:10I'm excited.
17:11It's going to be fun.
17:12Thanks, Rusty.
17:12We'll see you Friday?
17:13Yep, I'll be there.
17:15All right.
17:15Sounds good, man.
17:16Rusty's a loyal listener from Delaware.
17:18He gets to play a home game and come see us at the starboard on Friday.
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