00:00I mean the last time I met Anwar was at the, no, no, at the ASEAN Summit
00:10last year.
00:13I'm an introvert, so I hardly spend time not just with Anwar or PKR, even with
00:20everyone.
00:2628年前,拉斐兹加入公正党,从烈火墨西一路打到布城。
00:31如今,这名前署理主席正式与老东家切割,转投槟
00:36城的小党Bissama同心党。
00:39而作为手下安华身边最重要的战友之一,两人现在的
00:44关系如何,是否还是朋友,都是许多人好奇的事。
00:48拉斐兹接受新州日报于拜格专访时透露,自己最后
00:52一次见恩华,已经是在去年东盟峰会期间。
00:57I mean the last time I met Anwar was at the, no, no, at the ASEAN Summit
01:07last year, that was the 23rd of May.
01:132-3天后, after the Congress?
01:152-3天后?
01:161天后, before the Resignation?
01:18Yeah, so I waited after Congress to PKR last year, I waited to complete that ASEAN Summit,
01:27even though we have to sit side by side together for the public.
01:32because that should not be about politics, it's for the country. It would be embarrassing for the country if
01:39Minister of Economy, who's in charge of regional economic development, resign.
01:45so that was the last time I met him and there has been no contact since he tried I think
01:53once to send me a book that he wrote, his latest book, but it's nothing personal to me.
02:03I mean, I didn't sign up in politics for a position or to become friends or to, you know,
02:12I'm more happy to become journalist like you guys, you know.
02:16so I think the moment that what was happening in PKR and to a certain SNPH no longer
02:26fit the purpose of what I think the public deserve, then actually there's no hard feeling.
02:31and to be fair to me, and I suppose Nick as well, maybe me more than Nick lah, I'm
02:41an introvert.
02:43so I hardly spend time not just with ANWAR or PKR, even with everyone.
02:48Dalam UMNO ke, you know, you would never see me at coffee house talking to people, discussing, you
02:55know.
02:55so I'm very much like an office worker, I go, I wake up in the morning, I go to
03:01office, do my work, if it's a constitution clinic where I meet people, I meet people, after that I
03:10go back, you know.
03:11so it's not, it's not unique that I don't maintain that relationship with ANWAR the
03:19moment I resign, because that's how I treat everyone else.
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