00:00People are saying they won't vote for us while he's there.
00:02And I don't think, I think they've got to the point now
00:04where the public have made their minds up,
00:07or a section of the public have,
00:08who historically have voted for us.
00:11They made their minds up.
00:12And so I think that point of view means that they are holding now
00:18that whatever Keir says, whatever changes he makes,
00:21whatever refreshing he does, isn't going to make any difference.
00:24People have stopped listening.
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