00:00Whoever is going to be governor will have to stand up to Donald Trump.
00:03Can I tell you, after working in Joe Biden's administration, I do not trust, have you ever
00:09set out to do that?
00:10When I saw him in the administration, and I think a lot of people did, and it's, people
00:15understand this, it's he was not effective in governing.
00:17And I think that a lot of people in the Biden administration are talking about this because
00:22they realize that he was not an effective HHS secretary.
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