00:00I know you hate everything Brandon Iyuk,
00:02so I'm going to absolutely torture you here now.
00:05No!
00:06I told you prior to the show, I can't.
00:09I can't.
00:09You have to.
00:10You have to.
00:10I can't.
00:11Because we have a new one.
00:12Unless something happened.
00:13Unless he surfaced like the Loch Ness Monster,
00:16I don't want to talk about it.
00:17I've already made my stance clear.
00:19Why is that a picture of Brandon Iyuk coming out of the water like a Loch Ness Monster?
00:22Because he's as mysterious.
00:23Nobody's seen him.
00:24Just like the Loch Ness Monster.
00:26It's like he's more rumor than fact.
00:27So Joe Shasky from 95.7 The Game was on with Grant and Danny.
00:32The game where?
00:33In San Francisco.
00:34And there is a new potential wrinkle that may even help you
00:40because we never even have to talk about him again.
00:42So we're now wrinkle watching on a wide receiver
00:46who's been out of the league for a year and a half,
00:48who's probably crazy,
00:49who has very bad judgment about money and career and everything else,
00:54and may or may not be a late summer ad for the Commanders.
00:59Might be.
01:00We're wrinkle watching.
01:00According to Joe Shasky,
01:02this new wrinkle that we're going to add is a very...
01:05Jeff, we have that?
01:06Let's hear the wrinkle.
01:08This is the potential wrinkle that we could get in the stories, Abe.
01:11Give me percentage chances in your opinion of...
01:14I would say that he's playing in Washington this year
01:18and that he never plays another down.
01:21Like, is that on the board?
01:23If I had to weigh things out,
01:26I would say post-June 1 cut would be, you know, 75%.
01:32A trade to the Commanders, 10%.
01:35Him playing on the Commanders, let's say 75%.
01:40Him never playing again in the NFL?
01:42Like, I legitimately think it might be 50-50.
01:45Wow.
01:47How can you let this guy into your building
01:49if you have a whiff of him being the team obliterator
01:53as they go T.O. on you?
01:54Like, do you...
01:56Like, let me ask you this.
01:58Would you want to play with a guy like this?
01:59And the other part of this is the Niners' perspective.
02:01Do you want other free agents around the league going,
02:04God, look what you're doing to him.
02:05Are you going to do that to me?
02:06Like, they must have such a cause
02:09to feel the way that they feel.
02:11Well, and I'm sure they're sharing that information
02:14with everyone.
02:15This guy...
02:16See, that's my point.
02:18What is his...
02:19What is the full story with this?
02:22Why does he give up $30 million?
02:24I'm sorry, there has to be a reason
02:25that somebody goes,
02:26you know what?
02:28Take it.
02:28I don't even want to be around.
02:30Why?
02:31I need to know that.
02:32A 50-50 chance that he never plays football again.
02:35Why?
02:35Why am I overthinking it?
02:36There's a certain small percentage of pro athletes
02:39that unfortunately don't understand
02:43life is not a rehearsal.
02:45They don't understand that the money they're making
02:49is insane by normal person standards.
02:53They don't have a perspective on
02:54how long life will go on after they're done playing
02:58and how boring life will be
03:00once you're not a professional athlete.
03:02So they act in ways that are sort of based out of pride,
03:07defiance, delusion, the thinking of,
03:10man, my stuff is so good.
03:11I'm worth this much money.
03:13They paid me all this money.
03:15I'll do it somewhere else.
03:16They're just not treating me right.
03:18I've seen this too many times with other players
03:22where they get out over the skis delusionally
03:24and they make very bad decisions.
03:26What would you...
03:28What are you thinking might be a reason
03:30that could make you go,
03:33oh, I get it.
03:34No, I never said that there is a reason
03:36that's going to make me say I get it.
03:38I just want to know what it is.
03:40But you're still searching for what's the reason.
03:41Yeah.
03:42You're searching for something that doesn't exist.
03:43How can you not?
03:44Somebody that's willing to say I'm not going to...
03:46This isn't even like...
03:46This is just show up and go to the training room.
03:49This is just show up and get massages and stuff.
03:52I know it's more than that,
03:53but that's what we're talking about.
03:55Show up, rehab, and you're getting $30 million.
03:59Listen, everybody has their price
04:00for quite a few things in life.
04:02$30 million to go through physical rehab
04:05is a damn good price for anybody.
04:07Why do you say, nah, I'm good?
04:10I don't even want that.
04:11You're looking to have a logical explanation
04:14to something that was not born of logic,
04:17and therefore you are going to be
04:18perennially dissatisfied at the end of the day.
04:22I saw a clip.
04:23I saw a news item.
04:25Sadly, this is now becoming more of a thing, it seems.
04:27There's young female teachers
04:29sleeping with their underaged male students.
04:32And for years, the joke has been,
04:34ha-ha, I wish I was that kid.
04:36But we all know that's wrong,
04:37and there's reasons there's laws against it
04:39because this can't happen.
04:41It's a predatory relationship.
04:43This one woman, young teacher,
04:45who got caught sleeping with her male student,
04:47admitted in court,
04:49yeah, wasn't my best decision-making.
04:52You think?
04:53Yeah, I'd say so.
04:54So I would argue Brandon Iyuk is like,
04:56yeah, wasn't my best decision-making.
04:58I'll give you another example in the NFL.
05:00Remember the whole Le'Veon Bell saga?
05:03Out of Pittsburgh, finally with the Jets,
05:05missed a whole year of football,
05:06ended up signing a one-year deal, I think,
05:08for a whole lot less,
05:09but he could have just signed
05:10for what Pittsburgh was offering.
05:12No, I thought he got a multi-year deal with the Jets.
05:13Was it multi-years?
05:14Yeah.
05:15But it wasn't as much.
05:16It wasn't as much as what he wanted from Pittsburgh.
05:19Also, the year he took a zero,
05:21that was never going to be made up.
05:23As he was approaching this strategy of,
05:26I'm just going to say no, no, no,
05:27until they trade me,
05:29was predicated on,
05:31you're not doing the math, bro.
05:32You can't miss a year of your most productive career
05:36and make that money up.
05:38If it's $15 million,
05:39you're not going to get more than that
05:41with another team.
05:43And it took the dumbest team in the league,
05:44the Jets, to even pay him anything,
05:46and he sucked with the Jets.
05:47The moment had passed.
05:48These things happen so quick.
05:49The league moves on like a flowing river
05:52under a bridge.
05:53It moves quick.
05:55He was great for a little while.
05:56He was.
05:57But running backs are different, though,
05:58because running backs fall off of a cliff.
06:01It can be a lot quicker than any other position.
06:04Saquon Barkley may never be the same now, either.
06:06We may not ever see the same Saquon Barkley
06:08in Philadelphia anymore,
06:09which I'm fine with.
06:10I don't care.
06:10But at the same time,
06:12his first year in Philadelphia,
06:14a big reason why they were a Super Bowl team
06:17was because that offense ran through him
06:19and that offensive line was great
06:20and it opened up the pass.
06:21All of those things were a part of it.
06:23We didn't see that this past year.
06:24Now you could argue play calling.
06:26You could argue a lot of other things.
06:27But there is a chance
06:28that the Eagles are never the same team.
06:30Again, good.
06:31But if Saquon Barkley is not the same running back.
06:35Again, I'm not saying that Brandon Ayuk
06:38may ever even be the same wide receiver.
06:39What I'm saying is that giving him a chance in camp
06:42to just see what the guy can do,
06:44there's not...
06:45You really don't have much to lose with that
06:47because you can cut the guy.
06:48Did you not hear your Niner guy
06:49right there in the Bites?
06:50And then if he doesn't want to play football,
06:52then that's even easier.
06:53Then there's not even a question.
06:54It's like when people were worried
06:55or it was the debate
06:56about whether or not Jeremiah Love
06:58should be drafted at seven by the Commanders,
07:00that got taken off their plate
07:01because he got drafted third.
07:03So if Brandon Ayuk decides
07:04he doesn't even want to play football anymore,
07:06then it's not even a conversation.
07:08It doesn't matter.
07:10Who's the worst guy
07:11that the Commander Skins team ever brought in
07:15that turned out to be,
07:17hey, he's actually a good guy?
07:20The worst guy that turned out to be a good guy.
07:23The worst perception guy
07:24that the Commander Skins ever brought in
07:26that you're like,
07:27yeah, you know what?
07:28Not a bad dude.
07:30You're saying it worked out.
07:30I mean, so saying someone's a good or a bad dude
07:32is tough because you're not,
07:33if you're not having the conversations with him,
07:35you don't know.
07:36But I mean, it's hard.
07:36Here's what I would say.
07:38And by saying a bad dude
07:39may not be a bad person,
07:40but a bad teammate.
07:42Bad teammate.
07:43And turned out to be a good teammate.
07:45They never really have had the culture
07:46to get the best out of people, though,
07:48until now.
07:49And even now, I'd argue,
07:50it's just you're still building that.
07:52Well, and part of that culture
07:53is to not bring in bad people.
07:56But you've had plenty of other teams
07:59that have brought in players
08:00that have a reputation
08:02as being a bad teammate
08:04that turns around.
08:05I'll widen it out.
08:06And this could be a call topic
08:08if anyone wants to jump in.
08:09Other guys with bad reputations
08:11that NFL teams brought in
08:13and they turned out to be okay
08:15or better than okay.
08:17Randy Moss is the first one
08:18I think of with the Patriots.
08:19Randy Moss is the exception
08:20that kind of proves the rule.
08:22The Patriots had a way of this
08:24with Brady and Belichick
08:26of bending people
08:27into kind of compliance.
08:30Prior to that,
08:31they got a wide receiver
08:32out of Cincinnati
08:32who was also a bit of a diva.
08:34I forget his name.
08:36Before Randy Moss.
08:37And he became a Patriot
08:38and he was pretty productive.
08:39Wait, you're saying out of Cincinnati?
08:40Are you talking about
08:41Chad Ochoacinco?
08:42Because he was there at the end.
08:43No.
08:43Are you talking about
08:43Corey Dillon, the running back?
08:45Corey Dillon might have been it.
08:47Corey Dillon was there
08:48after Cincinnati.
08:49What about Pickens?
08:50Was Pickens a Patriot?
08:51George Pickens?
08:52Yeah.
08:52No.
08:52He just went from Pittsburgh
08:53to Dallas.
08:54No, not that Pickens.
08:55A different wide receiver.
08:57It'll come to me.
08:57There are exceptions
08:59of guys that have
09:00reputationally bad reps
09:03that you get them
09:04into the right environment,
09:05they turn out okay.
09:07But for every one
09:08that you say,
09:09hey, he's not that bad,
09:11there's five of them
09:12that were exactly
09:13who you thought they were.
09:14I'm seeing people call already.
09:16800-636-1067.
09:17I'd even say this.
09:18Do the commanders
09:19have the culture
09:20in your eyes
09:21that can accept a player
09:23that has a bad reputation
09:26and make it a good reputation.
09:27If you're building it,
09:28why ruin it?
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