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No Posse de Bola desta sexta-feira (1°), Mauro Cezar Pereira comentou o empate do Flamengo com Estudiantes pela Libertadores.

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00:00The question is, is Paquetá the right guy to take Arrascaeta's place, you understand?
00:09Just letting you know that Flamengo recently announced that he was discharged from the hospital this morning and will be resting.
00:18Starting Monday, he will begin training at the training center.
00:21They put in a plate and screws precisely to speed up the recovery; if he weren't an athlete, he would have done the same thing.
00:28conservative recovery, without surgery, is the best option because the injury didn't move, only the clavicle was fractured.
00:36So he'll have some physical activities, obviously, that are low-impact, and this program starts on Monday, he doesn't...
00:42He's out of the World Cup, because the World Cup is endless, right?
00:44If it's six to twelve weeks, let's say he recovers in six or seven weeks, the Cup will be just...
00:48Initially, if Bielsa wants, he can have the player use it during the World Cup, for example, he can program it for...
00:54to be used in the knockout stage, going through the first phase only from July onwards, and then he has time to...
00:59Recovering, I think it's possible to play in the World Cup, it will depend on the coach's choices and your own performance.
01:05organism, of its recovery.
01:07I think this: Flamengo has a right to complain about the glass glazing? Yes, but they should complain sooner, right?
01:12Arnaldo always talks about the issue of what goes on behind the scenes; it's not about taking advantage, it's about preventing yourself from being...
01:16If you're harmed, then you pressure others not to be harmed, but speaking up later like Boto did is pointless.
01:22Let's recap: of Flamengo's last four away games in the Libertadores Cup, three were officiated by Piero Maza.
01:30He's Chilean, he officiated the match against Estudiantes last year in La Plata, and against Racing in Avellaneda.
01:36He didn't referee the game against Cusco, but he did referee again against Estudiantes.
01:41This referee, in the previous game, in the phase prior to Estudiantes in Flamengo last year, he officiated the game between
01:49Blind Man from Buenos Aires and Students,
01:52He awarded a non-existent penalty, in typical Brazilian fashion, to the Argentinian team in the 98th minute of the game.
01:58That penalty decided the tie, because the second leg in Argentina ended in a goalless draw, and that's when they put it in.
02:03to referee the decisive Flamengo vs. Estudiantes match in La Plata.
02:06He was under a lot of pressure because of that play, it was widely discussed at the time, and he made the correct refereeing decision.
02:11Flamengo almost got eliminated there because of his incompetence, and Flamengo only advanced on penalties; they played very badly, but
02:16He didn't compromise.
02:17Against Racing, he sent off Plata, who was naive because he fell into Marcos Borro's trap, that guy.
02:23veteran Argentine defender who plays for Racing,
02:26And he sent off the player, who hadn't done anything wrong there, just a little spat between them and all that, and he got a card.
02:32Red card, because he would have touched the Argentinian player there.
02:35But there was nothing there. I was very close to the scene, in fact, there was nothing there; it was all a trick of the robbery.
02:40He sent Vá off, there was nothing to it, and he went to the showers, Flamengo played with one less player from the start.
02:4311 minutes into the second half.
02:46And now that he brought the game, he was very lenient, and he was consistent, he's a referee who has been...
02:51Homegrown talent, except for that game in Paraguay.
02:52Who awarded the non-existent penalty to Palmeiras against Sporting Cristal in São Paulo? It was him.
02:58He was the referee, the same one. The same Chilean referee.
03:01So, this story that they are against Brazilians is not true.
03:04There are referees who favor the home team, and there are referees who will favor the Brazilian team, the Argentinian team, or whoever else.
03:08That's how it works. The Libertadores Cup is like that.
03:11Oh, you think that's right? I think it's wrong. Obviously I think it's wrong, but that's just how she is.
03:15So, if you want to play in the Libertadores Cup, you have to pay attention to the refereeing.
03:19Incidentally, the Boca Juniors fans in Argentina were complaining about Barreiro's expulsion.
03:22The player who also poked fun at the Cruzeiro player would have focused on the Boca player, right?
03:27That sort of thing. There, the complaints are about the difference.
03:30That's curious. What do I say? Everyone keeps pulling in the opposite direction.
03:33Check out the Argentinian press after the Cruzeiro game, Boca 0-0,
03:36Complaints from Boca Juniors staff and the Argentinian press.
03:40Quite the opposite of what happens here.
03:42In short, if you want to play in the Libertadores Cup, you'll have to play against Estudiantes.
03:46These guys don't know students.
03:48The history of the club, the history of the students, is a history marked by violence.
03:53Three league titles won and the Libertadores Cup during Oswaldo Zubelgia's time.
03:56Nothing to do with Luiz Zubelgia, the Fluminense coach.
03:59The order was to win at all costs.
04:02The team that was called the "animal team" by the European press at the time,
04:06because of the game against Milan, that Club World Cup match that Milan won 3-0 in Italy,
04:09Those who came from Argentina went to La Bombonera, 2-1 for Estudiantes.
04:14When they couldn't score the necessary goal by a large margin, they started resorting to violence.
04:19And they beat him, beat him, beat him, the player was arrested, then there are other issues, right?
04:23Player assaulted, punched, actually assaulted.
04:27That's how it was, three Libertadores titles.
04:28In '83, Grêmio went to play there, there were four Estudiantes tour groups,
04:323-1, ended 3-3.
04:34The Grêmio player was assaulted in the tunnel leading to Santos FC.
04:38And in last year's game, Flamengo eliminated Estudiantes at home.
04:41Logically, they were mobilized to avoid losing at all costs.
04:45The fans applauded the draw at the end and the team's fighting spirit.
04:47And it's obvious that this is a physical game and a violent game.
04:50So Flamengo, silently, watched as a referee was appointed who had every reason to be biased towards the team, just as he turned out to be.
04:56in the sense of not having sent off the players from the Argentinian team,
04:59I actually think that expulsions would be appropriate.
05:03To discuss the details and such.
05:04The penalty wasn't a penalty at all, was it?
05:06It was similar to the penalty he gave to Palmeiras.
05:07Then he was consistent.
05:09At home, he scores in favor of the home team.
05:11He did well for Palmeiras, but not for Flamengo; he played very well, and that's not the point.
05:14Emerson Royal is a disgrace, bringing back the Vinícius Pacheco fiasco from 2010.
05:18Flamengo and Universidad de Chile were playing at Santa Laura Stadium in Santiago.
05:22Flamengo needed one goal to qualify.
05:25A goal that was needed.
05:26The ball came into the area and Vinícius Pacheco, he's a striker for Flamengo,
05:28He dove to try and end the penalty but didn't score.
05:30He chose to jump.
05:32And Flamengo didn't score and was eliminated, right?
05:34For the team at the time, Jorge Sampaoli.
05:36So, what happened there was a Libertadores Cup match, a physical game, a rough game.
05:40And if you want to play in the Libertadores Cup, you have to play like it's done.
05:43And yes, you can protest, demand improvements, demand change.
05:48OK.
05:49But she hasn't changed, damn it, not at all.
05:51There are games like that.
05:52And that's how the game went, with a lenient referee and some violent plays.
05:56And I found that, regardless of the injury, listen up, it has nothing to do with Rascaica's injury.
06:01I didn't understand Uruguay's lineup for this game.
06:03Because Carrascal cannot play in the Brazilian league.
06:06Carrascal is the immediate replacement for Rascaíca.
06:09It's not even Paquetá.
06:10He was hired for that as well.
06:12He can't play in the Brazilian league, he can't face Vasco do Mico.
06:15It's suspended.
06:16He caught four games.
06:17Pulgar also caught four games.
06:19So, what would the logic be?
06:20Carrascal plays against Estudiantes.
06:22It takes Arrascaeta out of a very physical, rough game, which was already predictable.
06:27Save Arrascaica for Sunday's game.
06:28And then he had the bad luck of suffering a fracture of the phalangeal joint in the accidental play, during the casual challenge.
06:34But ultimately, Flamengo wasn't prepared for the type of game they were about to face.
06:38To play in the Libertadores Cup, you have to prepare for that type of game.
06:41I repeat, it's not that I think it's right.
06:43That's life, man.
06:45Then, there's no point in complaining.
06:47Mr. José Bouto is complaining later; he should have complained before the lineup was announced.
06:50Guys, four away games, three times with this referee.
06:53There are two [reasons], and in fact, he harmed Flamengo.
06:56In another instance, he made the correct decision on the refereeing.
06:58But it had helped Flamengo's opponent a great deal in the previous round.
07:03So I think if you want to play in the Libertadores Cup, play it as it is and protest.
07:06It comes from the South American Cup, indicating that they should do things to improve the competition.
07:10She might be more civilized, but she's not, man.
07:12She still has a bit of that past vibe in her game this Wednesday in La Plata.
07:18It was a game very much like that.
07:19And the student team isn't the biggest team, okay?
07:21Within the reality of football outside of Brazil, today, here in South America,
07:24It is the leader of the Argentine Championship, but has lost some players.
07:27but retained most of its athletes from last year.
07:29He won the Argentinian championship after being eliminated by Flamengo, right?
07:33And they're having a great season in their league, they're leading the championship right now.
07:36He rallied for this game, resting the players over the weekend.
07:39Because everything's fine, we've already qualified, in the opening tournament.
07:43And he played a good game, within his capabilities.
07:46despite some more violent, more virile moments,
07:49I think you have to respond by playing the same game.
07:52If you're going to win by fighting, you've got to know how to win by fighting.
07:54If you're going to win on the field, you have to win on the field.
07:56You can't just sit around complaining as if you didn't know.
07:58Oh, I didn't expect that, I never imagined it.
08:00You're playing against students over there in Plata, my friend.
08:03Do some basic research on the history of this club.
08:05The story is marked by fights and violence.
08:07It's always been like this.
08:08Is it going to change because the handsome Flamengo player got there?
08:10It's not going to change.
08:11On the contrary.
08:12On the contrary.
08:13Perfect.
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