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A tense Senate exchange erupted as Seth Moulton pressed War Secretary Pete Hegseth over the impact of Iran’s actions in the Strait of Hormuz. Moulton repeatedly questioned whether the U.S. could claim victory, highlighting disruptions to global shipping and rising risks in the region. Hegseth defended the campaign as an “astounding military success,” insisting the U.S. remains on track. The clash underscored growing concern in Washington over strategy, economic fallout, and escalating tensions with Iran, as lawmakers demand clearer answers on progress and long-term objectives in the conflict.


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00:00Mr. Secretary, you and I agree that Iran is a national security threat to us and our allies.
00:04Now, earlier you called us feckless for questioning your war.
00:08Do you think Congress was smart or feckless when it failed to ask tough questions of the Bush administration and
00:14gave them a blank check for Iraq?
00:17Well, if you're trying to compare this war to the Iraq war, which the president is the first one to
00:22call a stupid war, then it's a false comparison.
00:25Okay, well, probably a good idea to ask tough questions.
00:28So let me just ask you a few questions.
00:29Did you advise the president that we should attack Iran?
00:33We were, first of all, in this position in the cabinet.
00:36We never talk about what we would advise the president to do or not.
00:39Do you think the president or you deserve more?
00:41I've been in every meeting.
00:42I understand that, Mr. Secretary.
00:43With the chairman and everybody else as those decisions were made.
00:46And he got every perspective possible when it came to this.
00:49I'm just asking what your perspective is.
00:51Are you afraid to take ownership of this?
00:52Do you think it was a good idea or not?
00:54As I have consulted the president, do I think it's a good idea to confront a nuclear bomb?
00:59To start this war?
01:00In the hands of the...
01:00Imagine what the world would look like right now if Iran had a nuclear weapon.
01:04Okay, so let's just...
01:04Just imagine.
01:05Which, by the way, every other...
01:06If they had one, which the Obama deal was going to allow them to do.
01:08Including the first Trump administration.
01:10If they had one.
01:10Prevented them from having a nuclear weapon.
01:12So, listen, how is this war going?
01:14Do you think we're winning?
01:16Militarily, on the battlefield, it's been an astounding military success.
01:19But are we winning the war?
01:21Absolutely.
01:21Okay, so do you call Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz winning?
01:25Well, I would say the blockade that we hold that doesn't allow anything to come in or
01:30out of Iranian ports...
01:31Okay, so we've blockaded their blockade.
01:34So they blockaded us, and then we blockaded their blockade.
01:37That's like saying, tag, you're it.
01:39Or, you know, if President Madison had said, well, the British just burned down Washington,
01:43but don't worry, we're going to burn it down as well.
01:45Now, Chairman Cain, did the military have plans for the idea that Iran might blockade the
01:52Strait?
01:53Sir, thanks for the question.
01:57I'll answer it this way.
02:00You know, in this job, I have to maintain trust with a variety of constituents.
02:06Okay, I'm just asking if the military had plans.
02:08Yes, sir.
02:08As always, my point in this is, as I explain the role, my point in this is we always offer
02:13a full range of military options that are carefully considered with the associated risks with
02:20those options and the considerations therein.
02:23So, Mr. Secretary, did you consider this risk?
02:27Of course.
02:28This department has looked at all aspects of this risk.
02:31And because this department looks...
02:32But then why did you send the minesweepers, the only minesweepers we had in the Gulf,
02:35to Singapore weeks before the war started?
02:37We have lots of capabilities that you may or may not be aware of at the classified level.
02:43By the way, would the Trump-class battleships have helped with this?
02:46You're talking about a prospective future battleship, which we welcome in the fleet.
02:51Okay, so you're supportive of the battleships?
02:54Yes, sir.
02:55Okay.
02:56How much has Iran profited from your administration lifting the sanctions on Iran when you started
03:03this war?
03:04I can tell you Iran is financially devastated right now.
03:07Okay, well, they've earned about $14 billion.
03:10Operational economic fury.
03:11They're at a point where, between the blockade and what we've done to them militarily, remember,
03:15they don't have a navy, they can't contest the blockade.
03:17Okay.
03:18Between what we've done to the militarily and financially, they're at a place where they
03:21have very few options.
03:22How many Chinese missiles can they buy for $14 billion?
03:25Does that sound like winning?
03:28They're not.
03:30We're insuring, and they're not buying Chinese missiles.
03:32Okay.
03:33You know, at the end of the day, this also has a cost to us.
03:36If you, if, let's say this war costs $100 billion, I mean, you've already said, give
03:40us more time.
03:41It's only been two months.
03:42It could go on for 20 years like Iraq and Afghanistan.
03:45Let's just say it costs $100 billion.
03:47What is that to the average American taxpayer?
03:48Do you have any idea?
03:49Well, unlike foolish previous administrations, it won't go on.
03:53I'm just asking.
03:53For years and decades.
03:55But let's just say it's $100 billion.
03:57Sitting in this position, it's hard to imagine how it's allowed those things to happen.
03:59You were a part of that war.
04:00You know the answer to that?
04:00So was I.
04:01And I never knew what the NSA clearly was.
04:02I'm just asking if you know what your war costs the average American taxpayer.
04:06What is the cost of Iran having a nuclear weapon that they wield over?
04:09I'm just asking if you know the cost of the average American taxpayer.
04:11I'm asking you what the cost would be of that.
04:13So for the American taxpayers out there, my constituents, some of the constituents you wanted to represent
04:17in Minnesota, I'm just wondering if they have an extra $600 lying around to pay for your war.
04:23I think that's just a question that we ought to ask.
04:25Now, quickly, on March 13th in a press conference, you said we will give them no quarter, no mercy.
04:32In order for no quarter or no survivors is a war crime under the Geneva Conventions.
04:37You understand that's murder.
04:38Do you stand by that statement?
04:41The Department of War fights to win.
04:43And we ensure that our war fighters have the rules of engagement necessary to be as effective as humanly possible.
04:48You called Democratic members of Congress to be tried for sedition for reminding our troops to follow the law.
04:53But when you tell them to commit a war crime, you stand by yourself.
04:57For insinuating that the laws that we're giving them are unlawful.
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