00:21The first time you saw a Juviz Hasbun
00:30and when we arrived at the cell I was isolated from all of them, because it was logical that I
00:37was going to go to Matarajas.
00:38When we found them, it was when the DAS...
00:43How did you see the moment of the DAS? I understand that you could have gone.
00:48I'm going to tell you something that I didn't say here to my lawyer.
00:51I'm going to tell you, of course.
00:53I'm going to tell you that the DAS was not for the general Masa Marcos.
01:01It was for us.
01:03It was for us because after the bomb hit, the only one that I could describe how I felt was
01:10here at the end of the day.
01:13We talked about the topic and I could describe it to her as I felt.
01:18How I felt.
01:20When I was outside, I listened to the news,
01:25words more, words less, said the radio radio.
01:29The explosion that we heard about 20 minutes was an attack,
01:37a bomb, an attack in the installation of the DAS.
01:42And all the involved in the crime of the DAS are dead.
01:48All the involved in the crime of the DAS are dead.
01:52All the involved in the crime of the DAS are dead.
01:57It was, I don't know, it was a feeling of not being dead,
02:04but of them.
02:08That she, at that time, had 3 years? 4 years?
02:126 years.
02:136 years?
02:14No, I had to do with intimidades.
02:16Yeah, I had to do it.
02:16Yeah, I had to do it.
02:18Yeah, I had to do it.
02:183 years more.
02:206, 6, 9 years.
02:23Ah, they did not kill me.
02:26And the exile?
02:27I was at the exile, I have to do it until now,
02:31because, thank God, with the impulse of my lawyer,
02:37I told him, and I told him, I told him,
02:40I started to feel freedom.
02:46And we go to his question,
02:48that's how I received Alberto Biasagún.
02:51That is one of the great anecdotes that I have to tell him.
02:54He was all ensangrented,
02:57because, we were ensangrented,
02:58not just by the bomb,
03:00but because we were collaborating
03:03with the victims of the bomb.
03:06All the involved in the victims of the bomb.
03:08He was being put in the front,
03:08in the front of the car abge is.
03:11When I arrived, I was the last one that I arrived, and in the middle of all of them,
03:16said Norberto Hernández, in his tone costeño, all jojoso.
03:22I said, sir, you're the one who will kill me.
03:25He said, sir, if he will kill me, come with Ron, come with Ron.
03:31We made a very good friend.
03:33How to understand, then, that while you were arrested,
03:38the real authors and confesses criminals of Galán,
03:44if they were killed one a one, they would call the truth of what was happening.
03:49The truth is that one of the people who was with us in this Viacrucis,
03:59a friend of mine, his name goes with L, his name goes with R.
04:06He's called Norberto Charalcá.
04:10He was arrested. He was arrested.
04:13He was arrested. He was arrested.
04:15I believe that the doctor Borja knows the story of him.
04:20He was arrested.
04:21And finally, the doctor Norberto Hernández,
04:24he said a very important phrase,
04:27and he said,
04:28he said,
04:28he said,
04:28he said,
04:30he said,
04:32he said,
04:42he said,
04:44he said,
04:47he said,
04:47he said to me,
04:49he said,
04:49he said,
04:49a privation of freedom to this moment, which I think is diluted, saying that you don't have anything to do.
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