00:00And we want to talk about this issue with a deep knowledge of the reality cuban,
00:04the journalist and cuban editor, Amir Valle.
00:06Amir, thank you for joining us today.
00:09This announcement, a few days ago, that Trump leaves the White House.
00:13Is it a way to put stones in the path to Joe Biden, or is there more things behind this
00:19decision?
00:20First, it's typical of Trump.
00:22It's to say, if he's putting stones on a stone to Joe Biden,
00:25it's clear, Joe Biden will have to have to maneuver quite strong in the beginning of his candidature,
00:31or, of his presidency, to break everything done by Donald Trump in relation to Cuba.
00:37But I'm saying that it was something that was to wait for Trump,
00:40because with this, he closes, with broches dorados, his promise electoral in relation to Cuba.
00:45He fulfilled, really, what he prometed in terms of endurance.
00:50The only thing he did, really, was that he prometed the collapse of the government.
00:56Those cubanos, since of all, are enojados with this measure.
00:59Do you think it will work for pression to the Cuban government?
01:02Do you serve for victimization?
01:04Look, I have a little point.
01:08The Cuban government is not very molested.
01:09It is to say, the government of Cuba is really very molested with this measure.
01:13It is seen in the declarations that they have been doing already.
01:17But all the measures of Donald Trump really have created a great social dilemma
01:22within the cuban society.
01:24On the one hand, there is the fact that, for the first time,
01:28after the time of Obama, in which the American enemy's enemy
01:31disappeared from the palestra,
01:33the new one recovered that figure.
01:35And today, the Cuban people cubans, in the majority,
01:38achaca to Trump all the consequences
01:41that economic, or a part of the consequences
01:43that economic are happening in the country.
01:46That, on the one hand, and on the other hand,
01:48for the first time in the history of the Cuban nation,
01:51since 1959, the Cuban people have been divided
01:56in a way irrational, intolerant,
01:59in those who believe that Trump is the best that could happen,
02:03and those who believe that it was all a common error.
02:06That has been really a big signal within the Cuban society,
02:10not only in the exile, but also within the island,
02:13and even within the groups of opposition to the island.
02:15And talking about groups of opposition in this context,
02:18Amir, the social networks are questioned by Europe
02:20and the United States have allowed
02:21that groups of opposition se mobilise in Cuba.
02:24What do you think could impulsify changes
02:26now that Raúl Castro is for leaving the leadership of the party?
02:29It is something very important and it is necessary to say something.
02:33The social networks have turned, in the last two months,
02:37in the only platform critical against the Cuban Revolution.
02:42The European Union and even other countries of Latin America
02:47have not taken a position real to support the movements that are happening in Cuba
02:54and the opposition, in pleno, speaks of that they feel abandoned.
02:59In that moment surge the movement of San Isidro,
03:02this great movement that has marked the last few years,
03:05and suddenly, the social networks become a mechanism of unity
03:08of the cubans of exile,
03:10that for the first time they put in agreement in torno to the movement of San Isidro,
03:13salvando, even, differences culturales, etc.,
03:17and, also, it becomes a platform of accusation,
03:20and that is important to say it,
03:21of accusation to organizations like the United Nations,
03:25like the OEA,
03:27it is to say,
03:27some organizations that have had positions
03:29or timid or wrong in relation to Cuba.
03:32It is to say,
03:33today, the internet platforms,
03:35especially, the social networks,
03:36have become a weapon of which the government teme a lot,
03:40and that is trying to block and, in many cases,
03:43atacándola con bastante fuerza.
03:46Amir, from a point of view,
03:47a very interesting analysis.
03:48Muchísimas gracias.
03:49Gracias a ti.
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