00:00What do you consider now the role or the strategy of María Corina Machado?
00:05Well, if Maduro is still consolidating another six years in the power,
00:08many are asking if María Corina, for her security,
00:12she has been in the clandestinism during the last few months,
00:15but if for her security should be able to leave Venezuela.
00:18Is this viable or would be absolutely contradictory
00:22with what she has defended all these months until the end?
00:25Luis Ernesto.
00:27Well, I think that the exit of María Corina Machado
00:35in this moment, in the short term,
00:38no seems to be in the scenario,
00:45I think at least in a short term,
00:48in the next few months,
00:50it is clear that María Corina Machado has planned,
00:52it is clear that it is that it is clearly
00:55to maintain a struggle within Venezuela.
00:59Even the issue of the yesterday episode of the detention,
01:05liberation, etc.
01:07Well, in some form, it seems to be clear
01:10in the valor of the yesterday event of María Corina Machado,
01:15that it could be detained in some time.
01:19I think that in the next few months no would be planned to prolong this time, or in a situation
01:29like that,
01:34I would not doubt that it would reevaluate its situation.
01:37I'm not in the head or in the strategy of María Corina Machado to think about it,
01:42but even seeing the possibilities of acting, reunirse with people, mobilizing, etc.,
01:50well, in the clandestine in Venezuela, of course that they limit themselves.
01:58I think that María Corina will continue to play a fundamental role.
02:02We have to understand that María Corina Machado is perhaps the only leader opositor
02:06that has been able to replace the chavism, even to Hugo Chávez.
02:11When occurred in the last July 28th, there happened something very llamative,
02:15and it was that the population came to tomb a statue of Chávez,
02:18and I think that that is, fundamentally, that the figure of María Corina Machado
02:22could replace in the Venezuelan society the role of Hugo Chávez.
02:26The Venezuelan society has always been very personal.
02:29You can see the dynamics of the figure of Simón Bolívar
02:35to understand that it is a society that likes to identify their political moments
02:42in a person.
02:43The chavism, in particular, Hugo Chávez,
02:46he was able to do that to become a movement personalist,
02:49which even today, still pesa.
02:52And the movement no is called the madurism,
02:53but still is called the chavism,
02:56by the weight of the figure of Hugo Chávez.
02:57But María Corina Machado has been,
02:59perhaps, the only leader of the opposition
03:01that has overcome many of the figures
03:06that built the Bolivar Revolution in the last 26 years.
03:10She is a woman, and the female female leader in a political system
03:14is very important,
03:16because it took a concept
03:19or transformed the political dynamics
03:21from the concept of the family.
03:24And that is very important.
03:26In fact, the dynamic of the Rosario,
03:29as we saw,
03:30is a construction in direction
03:33to the religious element of the Venezuelan society
03:36that, during the chavism,
03:37has had other particularities,
03:39but that, with María Corina,
03:41again,
03:41she concentrates
03:43in that dynamic of the family,
03:45that she always says that
03:47that they have to leave the families,
03:48to march together,
03:50the children,
03:51the adults,
03:52the adults,
03:53the adults,
03:53and, with the grandparents,
03:55with the grandparents,
03:56it generates a change,
03:57a rupture,
03:58a movement against the military,
04:00agressive,
04:01dictatorial,
04:02of the Bolivar Revolution.
04:03And that is not a small situation.
04:05menor. Ella, que en algunos momentos fue una líder muy radical, se ha ido acercando cada
04:12vez más al centro y eso le ha permitido ejercer un liderazgo que compite contra la revolución
04:17al punto que el elemento que tuvimos ayer, esta situación confusa, la pregunta que todo
04:23el mundo se hacía era, ¿serán capaces los chavistas de detener a María Corina Machado?
04:29Ese es un elemento que se ha vuelto central precisamente porque la oposición ha leído
04:37la figura de María Corina Machado como una figura que rompe el discurso del oficialismo y que su
04:46detención, a diferencia de la detención de otros líderes, tendría un altísimo costo para la revolución
04:53bolivariana. No obstante, pues su labor política claramente se ve complejizada, incluso estar
04:59cerca de María Corina Machado se ha vuelto un riesgo para los diferentes líderes políticos. Hoy María
05:06Corina Machado va a tener que saber cómo ese trabajo que llevó en construcción durante los dos últimos
05:12años lo canaliza para convertirse en la opositora de un régimen dictatorial que pretende mantenerse por
05:20la fuerza.
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