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00:02Defender the territory is to buy the death.
00:07You know one, or God helps you to get out of the air,
00:11or you buy the trash.
00:14The question is,
00:16today there is the paramilitarism in the Sierra Nevada of Santa Marta.
00:20My answer is that he never left.
00:22I don't feel alone.
00:24When one is respalded,
00:27fights with more people.
00:28But as long as it exists,
00:30who can accompany one,
00:31one goes ahead.
01:17It is a process of expansion that begins with 200 men at the end of the 80s,
01:23and ends with a massive desmovilization of almost 5.000 men,
01:26inscrito to the Norte of the Autodefensas Unidas de Colombia,
01:30that end in a unified command under the control of Jorge 40,
01:34but that operationally,
01:36in the case of Santa Marta and Sierra Nevada,
01:39have the patron of the Sierra Hernan Giraldo Serna,
01:41as the great referent of control from Maicao to Aracataca.
01:52And the economic activity of today,
01:54they ask if they have to pay to the Clan del Golf
01:56or if they have to pay to the Conquistadoras de la Sierra,
01:58which is how today is called a structure
02:00heritage of Giraldo,
02:02which also called the Pachengas,
02:03which also called Conquistadoras,
02:05which also called the Autodefensas,
02:06but that basically has an element,
02:08and it is a lineage of Giraldo
02:11that continues to operate for 30 years
02:13an historic dominion.
02:22When in the government of Uribe
02:24began to recover the zone of guerrillas,
02:27entered the Battle of Guajiros,
02:29and there were some quemazones here.
02:32I was in the farm,
02:34the farm of us was in front of the Cerro Quell,
02:37and at night I saw when
02:40they were shooting at the morteros from here.
02:42When they recover the zone,
02:45they enter the army,
02:46but after the army
02:49arrived
02:50the Aguilas Negras,
02:52Nevado,
02:55Urabeño,
02:58well, all those people
03:01began to enter.
03:03They changed names,
03:04they changed names,
03:06and they changed names,
03:09and they changed names,
03:23and they changed names.
03:32The Tinto!
03:35they changed names,
03:35given a man,
03:36they changed their heels,
03:39but they changed names,
03:42and they changed names.
03:44They changed history in the Front are
03:45but they changed their DNA.
03:51They changed their faults
03:52and they changed their gender in the way.
03:58I had a lot of fear, but as a friend said, who said it was me after the fuck?
04:08If there are, if there are.
04:14It was said about the arrival of Grand El Golf here.
04:18And everyone is pissed, because if there are one, and it comes to us,
04:28I don't know what happens to the people, but they become sad, and they get killed a little bit.
04:35As long as there are some leaders who do not want to prosper,
04:41there are a majority of the silent community who wants to do it,
04:45but the fear is more afraid of talking, and they don't want to talk.
04:53So they don't support the good actions, in the case of us,
04:57as far as positions in front of the entities,
05:03that the political power is superior to us.
05:06They are attacking, and many times they disappear,
05:10because the best weapon or the best strength of them is silent.
05:15And when they silence them, they hide from all activities
05:21that you want to implement in your community.
05:41They have to be triggered, because they can't be killed by others.
05:47That's the reason why they just don't ruralize them.
05:47They don't have to take away their language to them.
05:49They are unable to take back to come.
05:49So the community is the one who is leaving.
05:49And now you are waiting for them.
05:49They are still having tasks for them.
05:51They have to come up with the community.
05:52They are not going to take away from them.
05:53They are even ready toaleb.
05:53Yes, they came from home to home, one of them had been in the house.
05:57They went to El Salvador, he was called the Lord.
06:00He was with us, his brother, Caliche, he was also called.
06:03He has a workshop there, so he left him.
06:06There was a lot of people who died.
06:08But the other one, they took him and killed him.
06:17Here in San Pedro, there was a calmness, a peace.
06:19We are talking about 2006, 2007, until now, 2016, for example.
06:29It's a very good calm.
06:30Groups right now, we are talking about, nationally,
06:35many groups, either from the FARC or the paramilitarism.
06:41I don't know if they were people who never left,
06:45or they never found anything to do in a healthy life
06:47and they decided to take their weapons again.
06:51So, they are coming back to their groups.
06:53It's not a secret for anyone.
06:56And there is always a concern for the community,
07:00that there will be a group here in the village
07:03and we have to follow what they say.
07:14The ancient cemetery of San Pedro.
07:16It can have, well said,
07:21more than 300 deaths from their existence.
07:24There are many NNs, many people who died
07:28and the family never came to look for them.
07:33There is no cemetery in a lower part of the village,
07:36where the village ends.
07:45The great fear that we had after the extraction of Giraldo
07:48was that his messianic figure and validation of the paramilitarism
07:52in the territory, through structures of base that still subsist,
07:56could reactivate again a control that,
07:58although it remains very enraized,
08:02still is not public in the urban area.
08:04It is still being powerful in the rural area.
08:06But in the urban area it looks like mimetized
08:09and not completely public.
08:11the reclutations are not with uniforms,
08:13they are with children like microtráfico
08:16carrying the bags from one side to the other.
08:17But the military ejército
08:19has not been able to reactivate and uniformize
08:22and that was the fear we had.
08:43we had to go on to the road
08:45so the PEDs get to it.
08:46The events of the village
08:46as they should come.
08:47That's the job we have.
08:49that the PDs come here as they have to come, not as they are doing right now,
08:54as they want to do it.
08:56And to defend them, to defend them in the national government,
09:01in the central region, that would be very important.
09:09Here one, even the same community, is faced with a lack of knowledge
09:14of what are the PDs, where we have not had the support
09:21that we should have from the Agency of Renovation of the territory
09:24and the same municipality, from the territorial municipal,
09:26like the Ciénaga, to give them the information
09:31that is, to our communities, to the community,
09:36so that in these moments, we have a conflict of interest,
09:43and we are in the struggle of doing what we have established
09:46in the initiatives,
09:48for the development plans with a territorial enfoque
09:51and the other, what the territorial entity wants to implement.
09:54Well, they are in the territory.
09:55So, that is, in this country...
10:22I went to La Sierra for almost two years to collect testimonials, to talk one by one with the victims,
10:27and I found several things.
10:29The first one, Giraldo, recognized only 33 sexual crimes. I found 201 victims.
10:36I told you recently that I don't dare to do a campaign to La Sierra Nevada.
10:42I don't dare to, because I know that if I'm going to do a campaign, they can kill me.
10:47First, because the exclusion of Giraldo, justice and peace, means basically a cross in my head.
10:53Because, at the end, I'm the culpable, but it's a personal victory for the victims.
11:01And this is difficult to understand in certain segments. I'm fighting for victims who didn't have justice.
11:07Each one of you helped to strengthen what was this bloke.
11:16A me particularly me preocupa, porque sé que el hijo de Jorge 40 ya está haciendo campaña en la zona
11:21de Huachaca.
11:22Sé que hay una narrativa pro victimización de la figura que él representa, cuando sabemos que en realidad no es
11:29eso.
11:29Y tres, la mayoría de los que son hoy candidatos gozan de muy poca infraestructura y muy poca capacidad operacional
11:38para ir a hacer voto de opinión.
11:39Es decir, los candidatos no tienen la posibilidad de enfrentarse a los grandes monopolios económicos que van a ir a
11:46buscar los votos.
11:47Dos, tampoco tienen la capacidad y el mismo proceso de paz no definió en las zonas en las que todavía
11:54hay control neoparamilitar
11:55mecanismos de implementación efectiva que les permita hacer publicidad efectiva, penetrar de manera efectiva
12:01y garantías para que el ciudadano que quiere que ellos lo representen, voten por ellos.
12:05Esto no va a ser posible. Yo no auguro que para ellos, ni para mí, haya una oportunidad en estos
12:11territorios de la Sierra Nevada.
12:15Pues es complicado, sí, porque el gobierno, pues ahorita vienen a respaldar y a reguardar los intereses, pues de los
12:24compradores de café.
12:25Porque ellos son los más vulnerables ahorita. Entonces lo vemos, de alguna manera lo vemos así.
12:30Están respaldando a los compradores, más no a los que lo producen.
12:38Entonces, por un lado pues estamos solos, porque entonces el día que ya dejen de comprar café,
12:43ya simplemente se van el ejército o los que estén acá y nos dejan solos nuevamente.
12:56Yo tengo que defender el planteamiento por el cual llegué ahí y qué es lo que necesitamos.
13:02No es lo que necesita el político, porque el político está allá, en la ciudad, en la capital.
13:09Nosotros estamos aquí, somos los que vivimos aquí, somos los que tenemos las necesidades sentidas aquí.
13:15A eso es que tenemos que apuntarles, a que nos solucionen las necesidades sentidas.
13:19Mira cómo están las vías.
13:21Mira las vías.
13:22¿Por qué no priorizamos hacer todas las vías en un solo bloque?
13:28Esto es un león dormido, porque aquí podemos cultivar todo lo que necesitamos.
13:32No tenemos que traer nada del interior del país, pero tenemos que comprar la cebolla, el cebollín,
13:39la papa, que nos las traen de por allá del interior, cuando aquí tenemos dónde cultivarla,
13:42pero no tenemos vías.
13:43¡cotérla!
13:47No!
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