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00:19I
00:19definitely did not sleep.
00:21Holy .
00:23Erin had nothing else going on.
00:25And I was an easy target.
00:26You know, she wants to play this villain now
00:28that everyone thought was cool.
00:29She was smoking, so now she walks around
00:30puffing her cigarette, acting like an asshole
00:32because people thought it was cool.
00:34You have fun with that.
00:35This is about the three of us coming apart.
00:38I'm ready.
00:41Tonight, the three-part Beverly Hills reunion begins.
00:44Do you think he was emotionally abusive to you, Tom?
00:48Kyle, if you do file for divorce,
00:50will you be asking for half of the agency?
00:52Well, it's mine.
00:53Did he realize that?
00:55You accused her of lashing out.
00:58In order to save my job, I
01:00came unglued.
01:01Do you want to apologize?
01:03Apologize for what, Andy?
01:05She's saying that it made her flip.
01:08I didn't say it was a failure.
01:09Yes, you did.
01:10Get over it.
01:11Don't talk to me on my back.
01:12I told him.
01:15I'm very sorry.
01:16But do you mean it?
01:18No, Erica.
01:19I'm a cold-hearted piece of .
01:23I really like that word.
01:27Taking my selfie.
01:32Well, hi, Miss Brown.
01:33Beverly Hills is in the house I see.
01:38It looks so pretty.
01:42Look at this showgirl.
01:44Wow.
01:45Hi.
01:46Nice to see you.
01:46You look great.
01:47Wow.
01:48It's time to put a show on.
01:51This is very heavy, I think.
01:53Dude, it's 74 pounds.
01:54Is this dress going to be hot?
01:56Oh, my God, you guys.
01:58This is what Rachel Zoe wears to a reunion.
02:00Hi, girls.
02:02Who is it, Rachel?
02:03This is vintage Jay Mendo.
02:05Oh, it's Jay Mendo.
02:06Oh, it's really gorgeous.
02:07Oh, my gosh.
02:08Not the car on the set.
02:10I've never had that before.
02:11Look at you matching the car.
02:13I love it.
02:13I really like Rachel.
02:15Everybody looks gorgeous.
02:21Hello, everyone.
02:23That's so cool.
02:25Hi, Dorit.
02:26Here, I'm going to go this way.
02:31All right.
02:32We're waiting for the money queen.
02:34Hey, Dorit, guess what?
02:35You weren't the last one.
02:36I'm at last time.
02:36No, baby.
02:37Hey, money queen.
02:39Hi.
02:39How are you?
02:41Hello.
02:42Hello.
02:43Hello.
02:43You ready?
02:44I guess.
02:45That's right.
02:46Camera's up to Andy in three, two, one.
02:51Hey, everybody.
02:53Welcome to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 15 Reunion.
02:57I'm Andy Cohen, and here's what I'm manifesting today.
03:01Friendship, conflict, followed by resolution.
03:06And our set is manifesting the iconic Rodeo Drive.
03:11Good evening, ladies.
03:13Good evening.
03:14Hi, Andy.
03:14Hi, Rachel Zone.
03:16Hi, Andy.
03:16Everyone's obsessed with your boys.
03:18Aw, me too.
03:20They love their mom.
03:22Has Skylar bought an Hermes bangle for any girls lately?
03:25No.
03:26I have to say when that's okay.
03:28Sky, I love this.
03:30Don't just buy any random girl in Hermes bracelet.
03:33Okay.
03:33Did he use his allowance?
03:35He did.
03:36He used his bar mitzvah money.
03:37That's silly.
03:38Aw.
03:39Hey, Amanda.
03:39Welcome to your first reunion.
03:41What are you manifesting for today?
03:44Be myself.
03:45Say the truth.
03:47Maybe have some fun.
03:48Okay.
03:49Hi, Sutton Brown.
03:50Hello.
03:51Sutton Brown's first reunion.
03:53Yes.
03:53Easy breezy.
03:55Easy breezy.
03:56Hi, Erica.
03:57Hey.
03:57How you doing?
03:58I'm good.
03:59How is DJing going?
04:01Honey, I had two fabulous weeks in Australia.
04:05Oh, yeah.
04:09I had the best talk.
04:10Look, I get to wear latex and play other people's records and have a good time.
04:15I like it.
04:16Hi, Bose.
04:17Hello.
04:18Let's see that ring.
04:19Wow.
04:20It's shining.
04:21Beautiful.
04:22I do have a special request.
04:24Oh.
04:24Okay.
04:25For my Beverly Hills wedding.
04:27Oh.
04:28I would love for you to DJ part of the wedding.
04:30I will.
04:30Absolutely.
04:31Consider it done.
04:33That's so great.
04:34Hi, Dory.
04:35Hi, Andy.
04:36Great to see you.
04:36Good to see you.
04:37How are you feeling tonight?
04:40Kyle?
04:41Hi, Andy.
04:42Kyle, you are officially Bravo's longest-running consecutive housewife across all franchises.
04:48Wow.
04:48This is your 15th season, 15th straight reunion.
04:53How does it feel?
04:54I'm still standing.
04:56She deserves applause, by the way.
04:57I was gonna say.
04:58For sure.
04:59That's like a...
05:00That's an achievement.
05:01So, before we get into it, I just wanna talk about where everyone stands, because the
05:06once rock-solid friendships of Kyle, Dorit, and Erica were shaken, which impacted, really,
05:13the whole group.
05:16Um, do y'all think that we can land in a positive spot by the end of the day, or...?
05:22No.
05:23I would love that.
05:24You would?
05:25Of course I would love that.
05:27What do you think, Dorit?
05:28I mean, listen, I'd always love that, but we have to be realistic, you know, see how the
05:33day goes.
05:34Erica?
05:34I don't have much hope.
05:36Really?
05:37No.
05:38Okay.
05:40When new housewife Rachel Zoe saw how excited fans were that she was back on Bravo, she probably
05:46said, I'm dead.
05:48I can't.
05:48Are you okay?
05:49And, are you okay?
05:50And, while the other women marveled at how stylish and put together their new friend
05:55was, Rachel's home life was undergoing a painful new makeover.
06:00Take a look.
06:01Oh, God.
06:03Hello.
06:03Hello.
06:04My name's Rachel Zoe.
06:06You may or may not remember me from Bravo because I've lived here before.
06:10I'm so cringy.
06:11Oh, my God, I have that bag.
06:13I'm a little bit in awe of her because she is one of the most famous stylists in Hollywood.
06:19People are always like, oh, my God, you have it so together, but on the inside, I'm like,
06:22oh, my God, I'm, like, crumbling.
06:24I think we've outgrown each other.
06:26Mm.
06:27He's always been grateful, Dad, and I've always been St. Bart's.
06:29So you know that my ex is this girlfriend, right?
06:31My kids are leaving.
06:33She appears.
06:35Dad was there, and it was just like, this is my friend.
06:37And it was like, hi.
06:38And I was like, hi.
06:39And I just looked away, and I was like, oh, that's the person.
06:43It's an absolute myriad of bad decisions that have been made over the last month, the last
06:50weeks, the last hour that would trigger me to move things forward.
06:56It's everywhere.
06:59Like, it's everywhere.
07:01He will be the greatest disappointment of my life forever.
07:04Oh, my God.
07:04So you're okay.
07:05I'm great.
07:06I'm f***ing great.
07:09It came as no surprise, the Bravo-verse was very excited to welcome you back into the fold.
07:15What did that tidal wave feel like?
07:18Honestly, the love has truthfully been overwhelming, and I think it's part of the fear of coming back
07:23in is having survived the tabloid era of being the subject of fodder a lot.
07:31I came in like, they're going to come for me.
07:33They're going to hate me.
07:34So it was scary, but I also feel that I was a lot more open than I thought I would
07:38be.
07:39You were a lot more open truthfully than I thought you were going to be, to tell you the truth.
07:44Was there any part of you that wanted to get back at Roger by coming on the show?
07:51No, not even a little.
07:53I have to assume, though, that now that the show is airing, is he seeing things and getting upset?
08:00Yeah, I think he hears.
08:02I'm sure that people tell him, you know, listen, the only thing I could say very honestly
08:08is some really bad things happened in real time this summer that were quite shocking,
08:14and there's a lot that I didn't say.
08:17Do you regret it?
08:18Do you regret being open?
08:20I don't really regret anything that I said because I definitely meant it, and honestly,
08:25I still mean it.
08:26But look, here's the thing, the truth is painful sometimes.
08:31Yeah.
08:32But overall, definitely not, because I think if it helps as many people as I would like it to,
08:36then I think that's great.
08:36And it helps you.
08:37Okay, yes.
08:38And it helps you.
08:39Moving on to your divorce, we saw you file on the show.
08:42Is it resolved yet?
08:43No, but soon.
08:45We know that you weren't happy when Roger's new girlfriend saw the boys at the airport.
08:52Do you have a relationship with her at all?
08:54Are you okay?
08:56Are you okay?
08:57Are you okay?
08:58Andy!
08:59I have to ask.
09:00No.
09:01No.
09:01And not ever.
09:02And no.
09:03Does he have any relationship with your parents?
09:06No.
09:07Oh.
09:08My dad can't really.
09:10It's hard.
09:10My mother is more able to talk to him because for her she's very much like, he's the father
09:17of my grandchildren.
09:18So I did have him at Thanksgiving because my mother, we were all in Miami and he happened
09:24to have been there with a friend, like a guy friend.
09:26And my mother was basically like, we need to invite him at least for dessert or whatever.
09:32And I did and he stayed.
09:34I thought it was going to be dessert, but it was from 9 to like 1 a.m.
09:38Wow.
09:39And Roger's relationship with the boys is?
09:41Is good now.
09:42Better.
09:43Much, much better now.
09:44In happy news, you were recently photographed on a red carpet with some guy called Sasha.
09:52Is that a thing?
09:53Mmm.
09:54Do you have something to tell me?
09:55Hot.
09:56What did she say?
09:57Here's a friend.
09:58Kim from Cincinnati said, wait, is Rachel dating a life coach who sells online courses
10:04like Amanda?
10:05I would die.
10:21Is that what he does?
10:27He's, um, he's more of a, um, um, um, um, um, it's more of like a mind body alignment,
10:38basically.
10:39Alignment?
10:40Basically getting people back to a place of, you know, center of forgiveness, things
10:45like that.
10:46I'm not a client.
10:48He's a friend.
10:49Okay.
10:49You do know how many times he said he's a friend.
10:51A very good looking tall friend.
10:52Okay.
10:53All right.
10:54Well, I'm going to move on.
10:54With a husband in prison and a $25 million lawsuit on the horizon, the past few years
11:03have given Erica a million different reasons to keep her walls up.
11:09Sorry for that transition.
11:10I'm glad I am laughing at this.
11:12But after decades of walking on thin ice with Tom, a new gentleman in Erica's life melted
11:18this ice queen's heart to watch.
11:21Jesus Christ.
11:21This is an intro.
11:22Okay, Erica.
11:23Yeah.
11:24Who is this guy that the picture the paparazzi caught you with the other day?
11:30What stood up most in those pictures was the fact that Erica had not a stitch of makeup,
11:34she was dressed totally down, and the guy was wearing Crocs.
11:41When I saw that picture, I thought, she's so comfortable.
11:44Yeah, you looked very comfortable.
11:46And I felt like you felt safe with him.
11:48Yeah, there was no guard up.
11:49Erica, have you ever felt like you didn't have to have your guard up?
11:53Not in a long time.
11:56I know that you're so over everything with Tom.
12:00Oh, I'm not over that.
12:03I'm heartbroken.
12:04Uh-huh.
12:05Knowing he's gonna die in prison.
12:07Right.
12:07That's heavy.
12:09Certainly, Tom's story is ending.
12:13Mine is still ongoing.
12:14I saw this thing about Erica, and I texted her.
12:17I'm worried about her.
12:19Erica Jane headed to trial over $25 million spent during Tom Girardi's marriage.
12:24Wait, wait.
12:24I don't understand.
12:25She's headed to trial.
12:26What if they think they're gonna get $25 million from her back?
12:29I wanted to talk to you about the black eye I saw.
12:33I wanted you to know.
12:35I went through this, too.
12:38There's a lot of shame around that.
12:41Getting hit or choked or kicked.
12:45What happened to you, look, you were very lucky that you survived.
12:52And by speaking about it, that's the first step in letting go of it.
12:58Are you sure I did the right thing?
13:00I'm 100% positive.
13:03Sure.
13:03Yeah.
13:05I know it for sure.
13:06Okay.
13:10All right.
13:12It's hard.
13:13It's heavy.
13:15It's heavy.
13:15Erica, I want to start by saying first how sorry and sad I am that you had to go through
13:21such a horrible experience.
13:22I also want to acknowledge how brave it was of you to share your story so publicly.
13:29Why did you feel like you wanted to share that?
13:32Well, I'd held it for a long time.
13:35And had Denise not said anything, I probably wouldn't have said anything either.
13:40Mm-hmm.
13:40What has the reaction been like from viewers?
13:44The one silver lining has been very positive.
13:46Thank you for coming forward.
13:47I, too, have had this experience.
13:49And I think, you know, no one should have that experience.
13:53But it's much more common than we know.
13:57How did you get out of the relationship, if you don't mind me asking?
14:00I called the cops.
14:00You called the cops?
14:02Yeah.
14:02That's how you get out.
14:03You must have been so scared.
14:06Yeah.
14:06Terrifying.
14:07I gave this person a chance to leave.
14:09They did not.
14:11And I was like, no, man.
14:13Okay.
14:14I have to call 911.
14:16So after this aired, you didn't hear from this person?
14:22No.
14:23No.
14:23Thank God.
14:24But you know what I realized?
14:26Through this DV shame, it also brought up a whole lot of other shame.
14:31Shame about Tom.
14:32You know, I walked on ice a lot with Tom.
14:35Like, looking back at it, you know, it's always been nice.
14:38It was constantly an interrogation.
14:40It was constantly, you know, a battle, you know.
14:45Do you think he was emotionally abusive to you, Tom?
14:50Yeah.
14:52And financially abusive.
14:56And, you know, Tom, one time, did not talk to me for six weeks.
15:02That's...
15:02That's...
15:03And we lived in the same house.
15:04That's crazy.
15:06It's insane.
15:07That's such emotional things.
15:09You know, as sweet as Tom could be, it's as vicious as Tom could be.
15:13Were you nervous about appearing on camera with him?
15:17Were you...
15:18Oh, yes.
15:19You were.
15:20Yes, because what if I said the wrong thing?
15:23Right.
15:24Mm-hmm.
15:25But he never thought I'd get on the show.
15:27I remember him telling me after my first interview, you're not going to get this job.
15:31Oh, that's nice.
15:32Then when I said, oh, you know, I got the job.
15:34What an ass.
15:35It was...
15:35I know.
15:36He was kind of like, you got the job.
15:38Well, he's not going to tell me no.
15:40You know?
15:41Right.
15:41So, I came on the cast.
15:45When I think back about your first few seasons on the show, he would come around when you were performing
15:53and he would play this part of this, like, proud husband.
15:57Starry-eyed husband, yeah.
16:03I'm really proud of you.
16:04Were you?
16:04Yeah.
16:05That was cool.
16:06I appreciate that.
16:07You know how many times I've wondered how much of that was an act?
16:10Oh.
16:10In the moment, did you wonder?
16:12You know, you want to believe that your partner loves and supports you.
16:17But you know when it was f***ed up, which is very obvious, when you said to me, I didn't
16:23like it that Tom didn't come see you on Broadway.
16:24Yeah.
16:25I didn't.
16:25Like, how could you miss that?
16:27I was like, what?
16:28He also did not read my book.
16:29I remember.
16:30And by the way, you were cleaning up that mess on the couch and I was saying to you,
16:36I think that's weird.
16:37And you were like, do you?
16:39What does Tom think?
16:40He hasn't read it either.
16:41No one's read it.
16:42No one's read it in my family.
16:44I think that's weird.
16:46Yeah.
16:46What's weird about it?
16:47I was writing for him very hard.
16:49Yeah.
16:51Having that hindsight and being able to look at it.
16:53You know, I was in the Tom Girardi influence.
17:00You told Sutton that you don't believe that visiting Tom will give you closure.
17:05No, I do not.
17:06Especially since he may not even remember who you are.
17:09If there was one question that you could ask him, what would it be?
17:30You told Sutton that you don't believe that visiting Tom will give you closure.
17:35No, I do not.
17:36Especially since he may not even remember who you are.
17:39If there was one question that you could ask him, what would it be?
17:51Why?
17:53Why?
17:55Why?
17:57Why did you throw me out like that?
18:02You know?
18:04Because if you think about it, like I'm in an almost impossible situation.
18:09I'm swimming under all of these lawsuits and the $26 million thing has been for years.
18:15They sued me for that right away.
18:17And that's coming up.
18:19Yeah.
18:20Worst possible case.
18:22You have found that you owe somebody $25 million.
18:26What the hell do you do then?
18:27Bankruptcy.
18:27File for bankruptcy?
18:29You can file for bankruptcy or you can fight it out in court.
18:32And you can...
18:33Duke it out.
18:33You know, you can go to trial.
18:35You can cut a deal.
18:37You can die in the streets.
18:40I have no idea.
18:41Dorit, in Italy, you questioned whether Erica was actually going through a ton.
18:50She's going through a ton.
18:51We're all going through a ton, Rachel.
18:53I agree with that.
18:54You're going through a ton?
18:57Surely you knew that she was going through stuff.
19:01So what did you mean by that?
19:03So, you know, first of all, when I was in Italy, I had a lot on my mind.
19:10We had been talking a lot the three weeks leading up to Italy.
19:14And there was no mention of the trial coming up.
19:17In fact, the first time I heard it was in the Hamptons when Rachel saw it in the tabloids.
19:23Erica and I never spoke about it.
19:26So that was not even the top of my mind.
19:28If I'm not having the conversation, I'm not thinking about it.
19:32Your reaction was?
19:33On the one hand, I can see why she's got her own problems and she's very self-involved.
19:38On the other hand, I've been talking about this s**t for six years.
19:41So...
19:42Not really.
19:43Yeah, I've been going through it.
19:45This case has been around a long time.
19:46But I also don't expect you to be keeping up with every s**t thing I'm doing.
19:50That's what I mean.
19:50However, we have talked about it.
19:53And whether we talked about it five months ago or two years ago, we're close.
19:58Yeah, no, I know.
19:59It hurts.
20:01I love you.
20:03And I'm scared for you.
20:05I don't want to overload my friends all the time.
20:09Well, I'm sorry you're going through it.
20:10But we also shouldn't have to mention it all the time to have our friends be sympathetic.
20:16Right.
20:16Everyone has stuff going on in their lives.
20:18And my point was, I think that you are so in the zone with your issues that you're not thinking
20:24about that with other people.
20:25Right.
20:25And I'm telling you you're wrong.
20:28Okay.
20:28Okay.
20:28This year, as I have said multiple times, and again...
20:32Yes, I know you were going through it.
20:34Okay.
20:34So, I was overwhelmed.
20:35Yes.
20:36But when I got to Italy...
20:37Yes.
20:38Going through it.
20:39It was a different ballgame.
20:40Okay.
20:40I want to bring it back to our current relationship.
20:43It's been how long?
20:45Uh, since June, July.
20:46Uh, like nine months.
20:47Nine months.
20:47Yeah.
20:48Yeah.
20:49That's great.
20:50How are things going in the relationship?
20:52Thank you so much.
20:53It's good.
20:54Has your son met him?
20:54Yes.
20:55And what does your son think?
20:56Oh, my God.
20:57You're talking to like the ultimate G.I. Joe.
20:59Like, my son's probably more in love with this man than I could ever be.
21:02Wow.
21:03You know?
21:04Let's call him G.I. John.
21:05Right.
21:06G.I. John.
21:07Yeah.
21:07G.I. John.
21:08That's a good nickname.
21:09That's funny.
21:10How has what happened to you impacted who you are in your current relationship?
21:17I really enjoy the man that I'm dating.
21:20And so I don't have those same concerns.
21:23You feel safe.
21:24I do.
21:24You feel safe.
21:26Things seem to be going well.
21:27Day by day.
21:28Day by day.
21:29We're going to leave it there.
21:32I need everyone to step out, please.
21:33We gotta go.
21:34We got an hour.
21:35That's the Chanel makeup kid looking three 20 minutes ago.
21:38Three.
21:39Did I give you that makeup kit for your, for that, that Chanel cosmetic bag?
21:43Sure did.
21:44Thought so.
21:46That's how much you've meant to me.
21:49Same.
21:53What?
21:54Is this happening?
21:56You get what you get.
21:59Some weird air come.
22:01Coming up.
22:03I can afford to spend $4,000 being judged, especially from you.
22:08Two out of all people.
22:09By the way, I'm not in the same financial position as you.
22:11I'm sorry.
22:17We are back with the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
22:20Last year, Dorit iconically dragged a cigarette, but this season her friends warned her against dragging PK too hard in
22:29public.
22:29And as Dorit sought to be unburdened financially via an exciting new book deal, she couldn't help but feel like
22:37Kyle was reading right from PK's playbook.
22:40Watch this.
22:41When I saw PK kissing that Sheen version of Dorit, first I rolled my eyes.
22:47Then I threw up a little.
22:49The next day, you filed.
22:51It was that day.
22:53You know, I'm hearing like completely opposite that Dorit is putting him through a really hard time, making it hard
22:58for him to see the kids.
23:00Last year, she was saying things that, you know, obviously came out.
23:03You know, how he's parenting and things like that.
23:05That makes me nervous that she's adding fuel to the fire.
23:08I just don't think it's smart to be speaking so negatively about your ex so publicly.
23:14It's going to make your divorce down the line much more difficult.
23:17Do you remember when you and I had dinner and I said to you, I don't think it's a good
23:26idea to bash the father of your children?
23:28Why do you think I said that?
23:29Do I remember that?
23:30I can remember.
23:33I think when it comes to anything about this divorce between Dorit and PK, Kyle should just be quiet because
23:39there's no winning here.
23:40Is it protecting me?
23:41I don't know if PK's doing it.
23:42I only care about you.
23:42You know exactly what PK is doing, Kyle, because you speak to Mo and Mo speaks to PK.
23:46What you have kicked off and started is what's really going to come back and kick me in the ass.
23:53Throw up, Marie.
23:56Okay, so Dorit, you said that what Kyle is doing is going to come back and bite you in the
24:01ass.
24:01Yes.
24:02Has that happened?
24:03Oh, yeah.
24:04In what way?
24:05Well, PK was sending me, clearly, Kyle was relaying information to Mo about me in the season and PK was
24:13taunting me towards the end of the season saying,
24:16Apparently, you're not doing so well.
24:20Apparently, you know.
24:21I didn't say anything about that.
24:22Oh, he just, I mean, PK just poof, got it out of the sky.
24:26No.
24:26He's a psychic.
24:27No.
24:27Someone's saying something and it's not me.
24:29Okay, well, anyway.
24:30So you can't keep it in that.
24:31It's more than that.
24:31I can tell you that now that it's, listen, you have to be, you know, for somebody who's
24:37so concerned, if she doesn't realize that suggesting that I am erratic, that I'm not
24:44myself, not once thinking, she's in an acrimonious divorce.
24:48I'm not in your situation.
24:50I filed for divorce.
24:51Telling me, you told me once in private.
24:52That's why we're telling you don't fuel the fire.
24:54So then why do you think fueling the fire?
24:56By suggesting that I am erratic, by making sure that it's going public.
25:00I already said that was the wrong choice of words, which he's going to hear this too.
25:03Kyle, making it a storyline.
25:05Yeah, and you know what you didn't see?
25:07Is that they were having that conversation with me as well and that part wasn't shown.
25:11You missed it last night.
25:13I lost Dorit.
25:14I'm not kidding for like 45 minutes.
25:16Where did you find her?
25:17She was in the f***ing smoking section outside.
25:19Like, but here's the thing.
25:21Had I known there was a smoking section, that would have been the first place I looked.
25:25She'd disappear sometimes.
25:27You can't do that.
25:28I had a f***ing heart attack.
25:30Like, you can't do that.
25:31You keep saying this, so I'm going to go to each and every one.
25:33Amanda, did you go to Kyle and say Dorit is acting erratic, manic?
25:38Did you go to her?
25:39No, she didn't say that.
25:40I had my own words.
25:41Did you go to Kyle?
25:42Dorit, that's not what I'm saying.
25:44So then stop saying you didn't see them coming to me.
25:46Those were my words.
25:47That I already told you, but you don't listen.
25:49Kyle, you don't realize.
25:50That I misspoke with that word.
25:51I also related it to my own experience.
25:54And I even said this, I even said this a number of times.
25:57I equated it to how I felt after my separation.
26:01That I was, I can tend to get OCD and, you know, like all over the place.
26:06So I, I mean, I get very ADHD and I'm like not clear and, you know, maybe working out too
26:12much and like not focused and like all over the place and scattered.
26:15That's what I meant.
26:16And it became this big, huge thing that it shouldn't have been the word erratic.
26:20It became a big, huge thing, Kyle.
26:21Because you went to eat.
26:22Because you made it.
26:23It's not that big a f***ing deal.
26:25Why?
26:25It's a big deal.
26:26Bo's talked about her financial concern.
26:28She came and she told me.
26:28Never mind.
26:29Leave Bo's out of it.
26:30The point is this, Kyle.
26:31You know full well.
26:32You're trying to just focus on me and make me laugh when I wasn't saying things to be philosophy or
26:37mean about you.
26:38Okay.
26:38These are mutual conversations.
26:40Kyle, do me a favor.
26:41Let's stick with one thing right now.
26:43I'm making one point.
26:44Okay.
26:45I spent $4,000 in one of Rachel's friend's shops that they cleared for us to shop.
26:51Nobody bought anything but me.
26:54I didn't want us to go into that shop and not buy anything.
26:57They had cute things.
26:58I can afford to spend $4,000.
27:01I'm very lucky to.
27:02Yes.
27:03Being judged by you, having you go and speak to the girls, the group about,
27:07Kyle, that's a lot of money she's spending.
27:10Kyle, especially from you out of all people.
27:14Let me ask you.
27:14By the way, I'm not in the same financial position as you.
27:16I'm sorry.
27:19How do you know my financial position?
27:22Well, the house is being foreclosed on.
27:24Because you speak to Mo and Mo speaks to PJ?
27:26No, because it was in the news.
27:30Okay, so I just, I really hope to God things stay amicable with you and Mo.
27:34I really do and I hope to God nothing turns.
27:36Me too.
27:37But if and when it does, and you're dealing with what I have had to deal with,
27:42maybe, maybe, you'll find it difficult to sit in rooms and conversations
27:48when you're bursting at the seams and you want to actually be talking to your girlfriends
27:52and have a little bit of support, only to have people either judging you,
27:57talking behind your back, or suggesting.
28:00I don't know Mo like that.
28:01I'm so surprised.
28:04Moving on to your finances.
28:06Last year on this stage, we talked about the news that your home had gone into pre-foreclosure.
28:12You said at the time that PK had resolved it.
28:15Yes.
28:16Or so I thought, by the way.
28:17However, just this week, there are new reports indicating the house is in trouble again
28:22with a debt of over $800,000.
28:26It is in pre-foreclosure.
28:28It is.
28:29And PK hadn't been paying the mortgage.
28:30Could you downsize?
28:32It's not, it's not about staying in the house.
28:35Do you know what I'm saying?
28:35It's about, I believed he was paying the mortgage.
28:38Oh, which is wrong.
28:39Yes, 100%.
28:39And so I'm blindsided.
28:41Now, listen, it's my fault as well, because at this point, I shouldn't trust or believe
28:46without checking, et cetera.
28:47But were you checking monthly that it was being paid?
28:50No.
28:50No.
28:51PK is saying he's gonna bring the house current, then I'm gonna put the house on the market
28:56and find a house for the kids and I.
28:59This is the plan right now.
29:00Okay.
29:01But it could change.
29:02Okay.
29:04From what I've experienced, anything can change.
29:07Right, like maybe he doesn't bring the house current, but you need to get in a situation
29:11where you can be flexible.
29:12I know exactly what I have to do.
29:15Even before this news, people were shocked and concerned about your lack of knowledge
29:21about your finances.
29:23Oh, that's...
29:23Yeah.
29:23Well, I wanna clear something up, because you made a statement that I outsourced my financial...
29:30Well-being.
29:31Well-being to a man and it didn't go well.
29:51Maybe she's intimidated.
29:53Because I'm young and successful and I'm not financially dependent on a man, and she
29:57outsourced her financial well-being to a man and it didn't go well.
30:01PK was coming out of a bankruptcy when I met him.
30:04Uh-huh.
30:04Him and I built everything together.
30:07And I had a job.
30:07I got to give up, and I was like, what did we do?
30:07okay so that statement not only was it inaccurate it was offensive does feel like you're also
30:14insulting a lot of women who decided to have a child and raise their kids and not make money
30:19that's how it that's how it feels but you can have a man be in charge of money and still
30:23know
30:23what's going on with your money and you not make the money personally and that can be a totally
30:27wonderful life i thought you were talking about me and i was i thought you were talking about
30:33what i would want for all women and all of us is to know what's going on with our money
30:40and i don't think not knowing is a good plan agreed but i could see how that would be hurtful
30:45and i'm
30:45sorry so as we close out dory what is the latest on your divorce proceedings listen every time you ask
30:52me how are things with you and pk i really want to be saying we're in a great place great
30:57but
30:57you know what it wasn't the truth right now thanks thank god good after the kids birthdays
31:04this is the first time in almost two years andy so today as we sit here today things are better
31:08yes
31:09good thank god i'm really happy to hear that that's by the way the most important and i've been waiting
31:14for you to ask me and i couldn't wait to tell you that's great about it that's great all right
31:19well
31:19this season money queen amanda francis was the new girl on the block even though she lived on a very
31:25familiar block in kyle's old bel-air house but some people thought this self-proclaimed breadwinner
31:33spent a little too much time buttering herself up while only offering crumbs about her career
31:40and her traumatic past watch i'm best known for my best-selling book which helps women redefine
31:49their relationship with money and manifest more into their lives she's getting married too what's your
31:53date 10 10 26 oh that sounds good oh people say you can't have it all and i do i
32:01do have it all so i'm
32:03the breadwinner i always have been but he's very motivated to be able to take care of me i love
32:08being
32:08a broadwinner i really do love it it was my money i should be clear when i bought it i
32:13mean we have
32:14renovated it together but i did buy it yeah sorry why would you share that that doesn't like add value
32:20to the conversation you know i found that i had a gift around like the energetic part of money
32:29i have no formal business experience and but i was like let's make this a personal development brand
32:35what is this frou-frou mess we talking about i have all the staff 80 of people who buy a
32:41course
32:41buy a second course i have less than a three percent refund rate which is unheard of in my industry
32:45that
32:46is a very very low amount of people wanting refunds on digital products so here's the problem amanda
32:50you are defending your business instead of telling us what you actually do the baseline of amanda's
32:56defense mechanism whenever she gets criticism is that she's insecure i went looking up her books and i
33:02see this blog that says i was in a cult i'm sorry what do you think i'm fake i think
33:07that you are
33:08not being clear about your life i can't have a life that looks good your life is not pure how
33:15do they
33:15expect me to be more open when they put me down and question everything i do at every turn she's
33:21built a
33:21cold what happened she walked away from one and she built one this has got to stop
33:32all right so amanda not since camille grammar season one have i seen someone enter this group
33:39and light up the audience yeah you're welcome so let's start with the positive shall we sure yes
33:45maura from new hampshire said you know what i love about amanda she got all the ladies activated and
33:50she barely had to try to real reality said amanda has cute his family and a very hot husband i
33:57love
33:57this for her um so on the other hand many fans were taken aback by how you speak about your
34:03husband
34:03nora from topeka said does amanda realize every time she talks about her husband she makes him sound
34:09like a freeloader okay eddie's not a freeloader he has a job he owns a company he works he's a
34:15wonderful
34:16man he's a good good good good man he takes care of me in a million ways every day he
34:22knows i make
34:23more money than him he knows i'm super proud of it how does he feel about you putting that on
34:27blast
34:28my axe would have died i don't think he would consider it on blast did he say anything to you
34:34about that he said hey the only thing was when you paid for the house no no no because i
34:40paid for the
34:41house listen for what i do it is just in me that i want women to know always that they
34:47can do it but
34:48out of respect for your husband right is so adorable but do you wouldn't see that as disrespectful
34:55no the house he no the house i think was fair i did buy it we renovated it together but
35:00what did he
35:01say this season he said what you were going to say oh he was like i make more he i
35:07make more in a month
35:11and maybe you didn't have to say it that way and it is true but do you see how you
35:17could plant seeds
35:18of contempt that blossom years down the road you do plan to be with this man forever right yes right
35:24okay so when you say things like this they get buried and then they fester they could maybe but as
35:33the show comes out as he sees articles as he sees comments we are in bed together talking there's me
35:39saying hey i meant this my point to you is this everything is on the upswing everything is beautiful
35:45the seeds you plant now they will blossom when up and you will you will pay for that later but
35:55amanda
35:55i think what he's saying right now he he's not saying that that you're telling me how my husband
36:02feels no i'm telling you that when you emasculate someone who adores you right and loves you it doesn't
36:08matter how much more money i've made in my career than my husband if i did i'm still there is
36:14not
36:14one moment in my entire life where i have said that to anyone let alone on television but you don't
36:21teach women that they can make money i don't teach women that they can make money no no you inspire
36:26women but it absolutely inspire money you could reverse it like i look at myself a lot with my marriage
36:33my husband if he had said those things about me when we were 40 years old like well i'm the
36:40bread
36:40maker i bought the house i did this i did that and here's little old me like with a baby
36:46in my arms
36:47like great for you you know but men have always made the money it builds up resentment this isn't a
36:53gang up on you no we're being helpful this is i asked him if he felt emasculated he said absolutely
37:00not he's very secure okay so the criticism was not limited to how you speak about eddie you were
37:08getting critiqued about millennial phrases bragging about designers or the money queen of it all was
37:15there one thing that surprised you that you were hearing from people that you were like really you're
37:19the designer stuff a little bit or the bragging stuff a little bit because i thought i was on a
37:23show about rich woman with cool i thought there was a lot of designer talk i thought it was a
37:28part of
37:28the show you're on that's not the lead part of the show you're on i didn't think i was leading
37:32the
37:32part is your heart and soul and we've had a hard time getting to your heart and soul
37:39ding dong on twitter said amanda's need to one-up and compete with everything the women have acquired
37:44is exhausting dirty jenny on twitter said what is up with amanda and mentioning the labels so much
37:49what is she trying to prove you're talking to a hilton for goodness sake i think everyone brought up
37:54labels often on the show i would bring it up there would be this like pause silence after but other
37:59people would say this is this this is this we are on a set of rodeo drive let me point
38:04out i mean do you
38:05feel like you had to do that when you came into this group because i think i think it came
38:09off like
38:09that yes and i saw her use in sedona saying make sure you get a shot of this telling the
38:15cameraman to
38:16please make sure you get a shot of my chanel bag you are with sitting on a couch you know
38:22cannot
38:23leave with that we are too old and too experienced
38:45but i was never i think the misconception that i was some kind somehow hiding me it felt that way
39:03i i should stop talking rachel you said you have a hard time with amanda because she acts strong
39:09but she plays the victim at the same time i think the conflict that i've had is what you just
39:15said
39:16about how you want to teach women and how you want to welcome in every room and everyone knows who
39:21you
39:21are and whatever i never said i want to walk in every one over and over you said that every
39:24room you walk
39:25into everyone knows who you are outside of our group i'm in a world where everyone gets me and everyone
39:30loves it all my friends take my courses and everyone has this foundation of like what amanda's
39:34about and i haven't been a world in a long time where people didn't know who i was and what
39:39i built
39:39and like why no i said i'm used to when i walk into a room people know who i am
39:44and what i do they know
39:45my heart they know my okay no you didn't follow it with that but that did not i did i
39:49explained it
39:50but in the moment but that's not what i meant okay okay that's how you took it it's not how
39:56i took
39:56it it's what you said so i guess what i'm saying is like because when you say those things and
40:01not
40:01followed by the explanation of why you're saying it how could i hear it differently right so i'm saying
40:07who actually because if you knew who i if you know who i was and what i do you know
40:11that that's
40:12not what i meant but i don't we're trying to know you you've rubbed everybody the wrong way
40:17it's hard to do that in this group well i did it all right amanda you did an interview where
40:24you said
40:24bo's tried to create a personal development brand it did not go well she's losing money on her courses
40:30she told me let's talk about this because when in the hell did i tell you that i was losing
40:35money
40:36on my business that is crazy in the vineyard girl i did not tell you that why would i have
40:42told you
40:42that because let's just consider our relationship at that point let's pretend for one second that i was
40:48losing money which i'm not why would i confide that in you it wasn't a confiding moment it was
40:54essentially saying if i'm losing money on courses there's no way you can be making money
40:59making money on courses and not be doing something wrong that doesn't make any sense amanda that's
41:03what you said it's not what i said i think they have it on camera and they don't because i
41:07didn't
41:07say that the online workshopping that's that's not what i do for work you know what i mean but i'm
41:13so
41:13curious about it because we have the inner the interlock yeah yeah you said i don't need to make
41:17money from this i don't right education yeah well i yeah and with that but that's okay with me because
41:22that's the choice i made and additionally i'll just let you know because i do need to clarify
41:26this comparison between our online courses you have an online business i don't have an online
41:33business i have a teaching course based on a class i taught at harvard for three semesters it gives
41:40people the opportunity to understand the keys i did not have as a business person so that they
41:46understand how to negotiate for a better raise ask for more promotions they understand how to present in a
41:52boardroom and so it for me it's not about making money my point is that my class is to open
41:58the
41:58door for people who can't go to harvard you are promoting your businesses and setting up your margins
42:04so you can be rich as yeah that is not my intention it's a charitable venture absolutely giving back
42:11so by the way that is not failure i didn't say it was a failure yes you did
42:20next week the reunion continues jennifer tilley talked to me about this dress this is my face on
42:27the front of it i see that will you be asking for half of the agency half of it's mine
42:33did he realize
42:34that you told me that amanda took out a two million dollar loan just before she started filming well you
42:39yeah you did you want to talk about the past two years when we haven't been friends this is exactly
42:46it so stop saying that we aren't friends
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