00:002006 yılında ilk UN Security Council Resolution'a
00:0730 Jun'da.
00:09Ayrıca Lebanese'dir.
00:11President Ahmet Nedejad'i sende Liraj Liraj Lirajani'i
00:14Lirajani'i tettam.
00:15Lirajani'i tettam.
00:16Lirajani'i tettam.
00:17National Security Council.
00:19Evet.
00:20He was secretary.
00:22He was secretary.
00:23So he came in April.
00:24I remember very well.
00:25And President Ahmet Nedejad, we were in touch and Brother Muttaki came as well.
00:31Meanwhile I went to Iran.
00:33I think some delegation from British was there in Turkey also.
00:36Yeah.
00:37And I was at that time Chief Advisor, not yet Minister of Foreign Affairs.
00:42And we told to American side that for us,
00:46Iran sanctions against Iran is like sanctions against Turkey
00:51because it affects all of us.
00:52So we want a new approach in nuclear issue.
00:56We want a nuclear free Middle East including Israel.
01:02Israelis were very disturbed about this.
01:04But that time was George W. Bush time.
01:07So we started to have close dialogue with Iran about this program.
01:13as well as we were in favor of supporting Iranian nuclear program.
01:18Right.
01:18To them.
01:19For peaceful means.
01:20Meanwhile, Mohamed ElBaradei was director of IAEA.
01:25I spoke with Mohamed ElBaradei and we were in close contact with Iranian and IAEA side.
01:32But when Obama came to power, Obama, his first visit outside United States was to NATO summit.
01:40then he came to Turkey.
01:41Ah, I didn't know that.
01:42Yeah, yeah.
01:43His first visit, his speech in Turkey and in Egypt.
01:48Before that we met in Brussels.
01:51There was an issue of this Rasmussen's election.
01:58Rasmussen.
01:59And as NATO Secretary General, we were against it because there was an insult in Denmark to
02:05Prophet .
02:07So Obama appointed Jim Jones and Erdoğan appointed, Gül was there, President Gül.
02:15He appointed me to solve this issue.
02:17We negotiated with Jim Jones.
02:19Meanwhile, after resolving that issue, he said, Jim Jones will be in charge of nuclear
02:26program.
02:27This was 2008.
02:30It was commander of CENTCOM, isn't it?
02:33Yeah, yeah.
02:34Then we started this process.
02:37When we came to nuclear summit, we were together.
02:42President Lula, Prime Minister Erdoğan, myself, yourself, Jim Jones and Obama.
02:51But that was later.
02:52I think first of all, I think I had a meeting with you.
02:56Yes, yes, yes.
02:57Here, here.
02:58Yeah, yeah.
02:58Here we had.
02:59In Ankara.
03:00In Ankara.
03:00Yeah, yeah.
03:01And then we decided, since you are having your effort, we have our effort, let us work
03:06together.
03:06Yes, yes.
03:07So we decided to work together, then we met in Washington.
03:14And why did we prefer Brazil?
03:17That time we have spoken with Iranians, I remember.
03:22If it was only Turkey, like before dealing on these matters, it would have been as if
03:29original issue.
03:31Brazil was the most respected member of United Nations as the first who speaks during the
03:40General Assembly, et cetera.
03:42So the Turkish-Brazil cooperation would be seen as a global cooperation.
03:48And we would make more pressure on United States side.
03:53And the letter which was sent by President Obama, which was given to both of us, was clear.
04:01It was such clear one, two, three points.
04:05And we were, that time, with Celso, we decided there is a chance here to solve.
04:12But the American side, I am sure you will support, American side were not thinking that we would
04:17deliver this.
04:18Yeah.
04:19They thought that, let Turks and Brazilians work for this.
04:22They insist on this.
04:24If they fail, they will be angry to Iranians, not to us.
04:30But they don't think that there is any possibility of success.
04:33There was this letter I told you and why they thought that.
04:37Anyway, I think it was very important.
04:40I think it was an effort of two developing countries to help solving a question that was
04:49of importance for the whole mankind.
04:51I mean, the right to enrichment, which we still, of course, defend.
04:57Defend for ourselves, defend for others.
04:59But for peaceful uses.
05:01And I think we got that.
05:04And the only problem we had is that we didn't fail.
05:09So that's why...
05:11That was the expectation.
05:12That was the expectation.
05:13That was the expectation.
05:14And we are really grateful to Brother Murtaki.
05:18He was...
05:19He did very good performance inside Iran to convince everybody.
05:24Because Iran...
05:25Some Americans mislead.
05:27They think that Iran is like Saddam, Iraq Saddam.
05:31One man decides, no, in Iran there are many places to...
05:36Yes.
05:36Larijani was Speaker of the Parliament.
05:38We had to convince him.
05:41Supreme Leader Ayakouba Khamenei.
05:43And, of course, President Ahmadinejad.
05:46Celili was a strong man in negotiations.
05:49Yes, sir.
05:49So it was a well-coordinated...
05:51I thought...
05:51But during that day, when already the two presidents were there, the Prime Minister and
05:57the President, I thought that we would be able to close the agreement when the leader,
06:07Khamenei, received Lula in his private office or house or whatever.
06:12Yes.
06:12I said, well, this is a kind of benediction that we should go ahead.
06:17Of course.
06:18My friends, I have to leave, unfortunately.
06:19Yes.
06:20But just one...
06:21Don't worry.
06:22You will be catching.
06:24But now we are...
06:25We have another crisis.
06:26I think we have another crisis now.
06:29I think the basic philosophy of our agreement in Tehran after 17 hours negotiation is still
06:37there.
06:38What is the...
06:40Iran...
06:40I am sure there will be no problem for Iranian side.
06:43Iran can declare easily that we are against nuclear weapons.
06:47We are in favor of nuclear program for peaceful purposes.
06:53If...
06:54When Iran makes this declaration, simultaneously, the U.S. has to make another declaration that
06:59they are not against Iranian peaceful nuclear program.
07:03And we, all of us, in the international community, we have to say that we are against nuclear weapons
07:09in the Middle East altogether.
07:11Yes.
07:11Nuclear-free Middle East.
07:13I say nuclear-free Middle East.
07:16The same agreement could be adapted today.
07:18As we have to agree with that in America.
07:19Is it right, Brother Muttaki?
07:21The same agreement could be adapted today.
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