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00:00we're just so small we're just a boy band from from korea come on come on
00:24guys welcome back to the cover of rolling stone we're back a hundred songs 110 songs i've heard
00:33from you from you guys that there were many many songs how do you narrow that down how do you
00:40decide what to focus on how many of them are finished what are the ones that aren't on the
00:44album what are they like are the ones you miss ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋ ๊น์ ๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ง๋ค์๋
00:57๊ณก๋ค์ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋ค ๊ฐ์ด ๋ชจ์ฌ์ ๋ฃ๊ณ ์ด ํ์ฌ ์ง์๋ถ๋ค๋ ๋ฐ๋ก ๋ค ๊ฐ์ด ๋ค์ผ๋ฉด์ ์๊ฒฌ ์ทจํฉ์ ๋ค ๊ฐ์ด ํ ๊ฑฐ ๊ฐ์์
01:08์ด
01:18๊ณก์ ์ ๋ง ๋ค ๋ค์ด๋ดค์ด์ ๋ค ๊ฐ์ด yeah does it ever become not a fight but an argument about
01:25now i love this song you don't love this song this song has to be on there how intense does
01:29that
01:29discussion get because it's important what makes up an album ์ฌ์ค ์ ํด์ง ๊ฒ ์๋ฌด๊ฒ๋ ์์์ด์
01:34๊ทธ๋ฐ ์ผ์ ์์์ต๋๋ค ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ผ๋ฆฌ ๊ทธ๋ฅ ํฉ์ํด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ผ๋ฆฌ ํฉ์ํด์ ๊ทธ๋ฅ ์ด์ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ์์ฒญ
01:41ํท๊ฐ๋ฆฌ์ง ์๋ ์์ฒญ ํท๊ฐ๋ ธ์์ง ์ผ๋จ์ ๊ฐ์ ์ทจํฅ์ด ๋ค ๋ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ๋ญ๊ฐ ๋ค์ด๊ฐ์ผ ๋๋ค ์ด๋ฐ ๊ฒ๋ค์ ๋ํ
01:47๊ทธ๊ฒ๋ ๋ฐ๋ ํฌ ๋ฐ๋๋ง ํท๊ฐ๋ ธ์ง ์ค๋ชฐ๋์๋ ๊ทธ๋ ์ง ๋
น์ ์ง์ ๊น์ง๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ๊ณก์ ์ง์ด๋ฃ๊ฒ ๋ค๊ณ ๋ง ํ์๋ฅผ ๋ช ๋ฒ ํ๋ค๊ฐ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ์ ๋ง ๋น ์ง๊ณ
01:56๋๋ ๋จ์ค์ด๊ฐ ๋๊ฒ ์ข์ํ๋ ๊ณก์ด ์๋๋ฐ ๊ณก ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋ ๋ง๊ณ ์์
ํ ๋
02:00๊ณก ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋ ๋ง๊ณ ์ง๊ธ ๊ณก ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋ ๋งํ๋ ๊ฑฐ๋๊น ์ ๊ทธ๋ ๋ฐ๋ก ๋ฌธ์ ๊ฐ ์๊ฒผ์ฃ there were a lot of
02:06complex like yeah which to go and which not to go
02:11you know maybe like two of them two of us like really strongly you know claim that this song has
02:18to be
02:19album if they have some logic or or stuff you know some some even the major numbers gonna like
02:26uh this has to be song then it's gonna there were like so so many conflicts i can't even remember
02:32so it could have been you could have chosen 14 different songs and it would have we would be
02:37having a whole different discussion about what kind of album this is is that fair to say
02:40does anyone have like one song that they're still thinking about that they can't let go
02:47๋ช ๊ฐ ์์ง ์๋ ๊ทผ๋ฐ ์ด๊ฒ ์์ด๋ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋ง์ ๋ชป ํด๋๋ ค์
02:52๊ทธ๋ฐ ๋
ธ๋๊ฐ ๊ฐ์๋ง๋ค ๋ช ๊ฐ ์์๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์์ ์ด๊ฑฐ ์ ์ ๋ค์ด๊ฐ์ด ์์ฝ๋ค ์ด๋ฌ๋ฉด์
02:58this album is so strong so good and i feel like it's at least in part the answer to the
03:05question
03:06that you all posed in 2022 after butter and permission to dance and dynamite that there was a question of
03:15who
03:16bts was and what you would do next but i was wondering about the in how everyone felt about that
03:23hitting that moment and the sort of debate about what to do next
03:26๋ญ ์ ์ฒด์ฑ์ ๊ด๋ จ๋ ๊ฑฐ๋ ๋ญ ์ฌ์ค ์ด๋ฒ ์จ๋ฒ ๋ฟ๋ง ์๋๋ผ ๊ณ์ํด์ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ
03:32๊ทธ๋ฐ ๊ฒ๋ค์ ๋ด์์๊ณ ์์ผ๋ก๋ ๊ณ์ํด์ ๋ด์๊ฐ์ง ์์๊น ์ด๊ฒ ๋ ๊ทธ ๋์ด ๋๋ง๋ค ๋ ํ๊ฒฝ๋ง๋ค ๊ณ์ํด์ ์ด์ ์๊ฐ๋ค์ด ๋ฐ๋๋ค
03:42๊ทธ๋ฐ ๊ฒ๋ค์ด ์ด์ ๊ณ์ ์จ๋ฒ์ ๋ค์ด๊ฐ์ผ ๊ทธ๊ฒ ์ด์ ๋ญ ์ ํฌ๊ฐ ๋์๊ฐ ๋ฐฉํฅ ์๋๊ฐ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ์๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค
03:48๋ญ ์ฌ์ค ์ ์ฒด์ฑ์ด๋ ๊ฑฐ๋ ๋ ์ฌ์ค ์ผ๋๋ฅผ ํด๋๊ณ ์์
์ ํ๊ณ ์๊ณ ์ด๋ฒ ์จ๋ฒ์์๋ ํนํ๋ ๊ทธ ์ ์ฒด์ฑ์ด ๋ ๋ญ๊ฐ ๋ณด์ฌ์ง๋ ๊ทธ๋ฐ
04:00์จ๋ฒ์
04:00์ด ๋ค ๊ฐ์ด ๋ง๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ๊ณ ์ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ฌ์ค ์ด๋ค ๊ณก์ด๋ ๋ญ ๋ฒํฐ๋ ๋ค์ด๋๋ง์ดํธ๋ ํผ๋ฏธ์
๋ ๋์ค๋ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ทธ ์๊ธฐ์ ๋ง์ถฐ์ ํ
04:10์ ์๋ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ค์ ์์
๋ค์ ํ๊ณ ๊ณ์ํด์ ๋ณด์ฌ์ฃผ๊ณ
04:13์ด ๊ทธ ์์
์ ํตํด์ ๋ญ๊ฐ ๋ค ๊ฐ์ด ์ ์ฆ๊ธธ ์๊ฐ ์๋ค๋ฉด์ ๊ทธ๊ฒ๋ง์ผ๋ก๋ ๊ต์ฅํ ๋ ์ข์ ์๋ฏธ๊ฐ ์๋๊ฐ๋ผ๋ ์๊ฐ์ด ๋๋ค์
04:22so i think the only consensus we had after the military was that we all are rooted in korea
04:30and then we are we uh we came through quite a quite a journey if we could call it like
04:36that
04:37then let's start it from there and let's get back to some point but let's get i mean let's move
04:44on
04:44for the some parts so you know it's it was all about like controlling and finding some point uh musically
04:53visually i think we're still you know everyone thinks different right now so you know but the
05:00korean thing was that i think that's our identity i feel like there's also a push and pull in general
05:06between the rappers and the singers and which is which sort of predominates everyone gets their
05:12shot on this album but i feel like there's a slight rebalancing back towards the rapping which is really
05:17very core to bts i wonder of how conscious that was what we're doing
05:21like we're doing some of the songs that we have to do so i think that we have to do
05:36it
06:03I love On Hooligan, I'm obsessed with the other songs.
06:06The falsetto part, you know, it's so fun to hear everyone sing it.
06:16What do you remember about coming up with that part and also distributing it among the singers?
06:22I controlled a lot of songs.
06:27Hooligan.
06:28When I arrived at the session, I was working on the Hooligan.
06:32I heard about it.
06:35It was a song that you said about the vocal parts and rap parts.
06:41It was a song for the song.
06:42It was a song for the rap lot.
06:47Actually, the vocal parts don't have enough room for the vocals.
06:52It was a song for the rap lot.
06:55It was a song for the rap lot.
06:57It was a song for the rap lot.
06:59I think it was a good balance.
07:01Who has the highest range?
07:04Who can hit the highest falsetto?
07:05Who is it?
07:06It's not true.
07:07It's a song for the rap lot.
07:09So, I really enjoyed this album.
07:12Our team has a lot of joy.
07:14There are people in the music stage.
07:16There are also some high-level people.
07:18There are people in the music stage.
07:20There are some people in the music stage.
07:28There are many good songs.
07:30I am a very good one.
07:34I've learned a lot of great songs.
07:37I've learned a lot from my previous albums.
07:40I'm a good person, but I'm still fine.
07:46I'm still a hard time.
07:46I'm so good.
07:47I'm not going to get a lot.
07:49One of the key decisions in the album, it seems like making this album was to include
07:56Ararang on Body to Body. How did that become part of that song?
08:01Hinden Bang, which is our head director, he came up with that idea and he and his producer
08:09edited it into one song and then gave us a listen. And then first time, nah. Second time,
08:17okay, I'm getting convinced. Third time, I think this version should be like this.
08:22Wow. People may forget, but you have actually sung that, it's of course not on the album,
08:28but you have sung that whole song in the past.
08:30Where did we go?
08:32Ten years ago, in Paris.
08:35No, Paris. It's a haunting song, a beautiful song, 600 years old.
08:41If you're a Korean, everyone knows the song. Just, you know, mouth to mouth. It's not in the
08:47textbook or from the school. Just, everyone just somehow gets to know the song in Korea.
08:55And I told you before, we were not a, we couldn't reach a specific consensus after,
09:05even after the military. So, but I told you like it's, there was one thing that we all know,
09:11that we are all from, you know, rooted in Korea. And, um, the label, label like also talked a lot
09:19about, um, the things, what we want to do next for the 2.0. And they, they taught us all
09:26the histories
09:27about Howard. Uh, it was in 189, uh, 1896. Yeah. Uh, exactly 130 years ago. The funny thing is that
09:37there were seven guys took the ship to record the first song with the Korean, uh, lyrics and, and Korean
09:46voice. So I think it's very, um, we felt like this is a kind of destiny and like a time
09:53machine,
09:53like they were sending to us maybe. So if we claim ourselves, our, our, our next chapter as,
10:00you know, like a new, new Arirang, then I think it would, could, it could symbolize us very well.
10:05And it's going to be, um, really, really cool. The resonance is really cool. Yes. The Howard thing
10:12is amazing. Amazing. That was an amazing idea. But the, uh, the song Aliens is at least a double
10:19entendre. It's, it's like, you guys are so cool and so unique. You're like space aliens,
10:24but there's also a element you're talking about sort of the idea of being seen as, as, as, as foreign
10:30when you go abroad. I think, I think, I think both things are happening in that song. Um, tell me,
10:35tell me about that metaphor and, and that song coming together.
10:39I think the original theme was endless. So I was like,
10:59like something like that. And it was, the song was really catchy. It sounded nice with, um,
11:06Mike Will made it. He's a crazy producer. He's so great. And, but you know, like it's something,
11:12something, something endless. Okay. Um, maybe we need a more sharper, um, at G thing. And, um,
11:22uh, I don't know, like someone who came up with that idea, but endless, uh, and aliens,
11:28they sound really similar. So we changed to aliens. And I wrote the lyrics with, you know, what if we
11:34just,
11:34you know, we, we, we just claim ourselves as aliens to all those, um, foreigners abroad and to saying
11:42like, uh, brother, uh, please get your slides, you know, indoors because, you know, I know you guys,
11:51um, go to the hotel bad with your shoes on and that's so dirty. And there's something, you know,
11:57just a little, uh, like a humor and like sarcasm like that, which is true, by the way,
12:01it is disgusting. I agree with you. Yeah. So we just, you know, since this album is about the, um,
12:09being proud as Korean and not in an Asian, we try to put some, um, the materials that we, you
12:16know,
12:17uh, only have, uh, that we are Koreans and we're from the far East Asia. If you're aliens, I think
12:23there's,
12:24uh, hope that maybe you'll land your ship at the Super Bowl next year. I'm wondering how you guys feel
12:30about that for, for some reason after, after, after Bad Bunny is of course American. It was so cool.
12:36But, and it was so amazing. But I think the idea of a non-English language Super Bowl halftime show,
12:43suddenly people were thinking, well, why not BTS? So I wonder how, how you, how you all feel about that.
12:48Go and call yourself, then. I'll say it.
12:49It's like, you're not extraordinary, it's such a long, long way.
12:54Yeah, it's such a long way. Yes.
12:56So what, actually, what, what, what maybe?
12:59What, what a artist is still a dream of a theater, I guess.
13:03Especially after the development of a theater that does it have a great team,
13:09it's even more such a big one, so any of our artists that are a dream of a theater.
13:14That's a hard thing, actually. We're all looking forward and,
13:15I don't think I'm going to be able to do something like that.
13:22I've seen the stage, but it's a beautiful stage.
13:26So I can't imagine it.
13:29We have a lot of performance groups, but if we can do it,
13:34we can't imagine what we can do.
13:38But that's the area we've been calling for.
13:41So if it's an opportunity, we'll have a chance to have a chance.
13:46And Jungkook, you grimaced when I said the Super Bowl.
13:49I want to do it, but I can do it.
13:53Jungkook was almost there because, you know,
13:56Asher invited him before the military.
13:58But yeah, it didn't work out because he went to military.
14:02So, you know, it's like officially,
14:08I think it's the best event and show stage, you know, in the whole world.
14:14And Bad Bunny, he was amazing.
14:15And I know he's from Puerto Rico and he's also an American.
14:19So I think there was kind of context between all of that and the flow of everything.
14:29But yeah, we always thought of what if we do some parts in the Super Bowl.
14:36Maybe we could collaborate with other artists like the Coldplay and Bruno Mars did.
14:41And like Lady Gaga did with this time with Bad Bunny.
14:44You know, maybe if the time goes by and the thoughts and the people change, get to change.
14:51You know, all of the people in the world are watching like Parasites.
14:55All those great things like Korean culture.
14:58So, you know, if there's a chance, then definitely want to someday.
15:02I wanted to ask what you all thought the first time you heard the lyrics to Jungkook's great song, Seven.
15:08The explicit version.
15:10Since he's the youngest of the band, if you were shocked or amused,
15:15or if you gave him shit on text or what.
15:18He's grown up.
15:21What song is there?
15:23One day is Tuesday.
15:23One day is Tuesday.
15:27What was it? Love You? What was it?
15:29Love You?
15:30It was here, but the shock version is Love You.
15:36What was it?
15:37It wasn't a shock version.
15:38It wasn't a shock version.
15:41It wasn't a shock version.
15:43It wasn't a shock version.
15:44It wasn't a shock version.
15:44Love You on a seven days a week.
15:46So it was F-word before Love.
15:50And a label wanted to change it to Love.
15:54It was originally F-word.
15:55But I told the label, please don't change.
15:59Why not?
16:00He's all grown up.
16:02He can sing an F-word.
16:04Love You on a seven days a week.
16:05You're right.
16:06That's right.
16:07Were you all shy to have them all hear that?
16:10I don't think I was shy.
16:12I don't think I was shy.
16:13I don't think I was shy.
16:13But I was like, what?
16:14What?
16:14I was like, what?
16:16When on 2.0, you talk about trying to leapfrog and basically you're addressing theoretical competitors,
16:24you know, people trying to keep up with you.
16:26But it's weird because you don't, I was trying to think who those competitors will be that you're in your
16:32own category.
16:33What's happening?
16:34What's happening?
16:38Like, what's happening?
16:41Or what's happening in our competitors?
16:42What's happening in our competitors?
16:43Or how's it going to be that we're still alive?
16:46I think I was going to focus on what we're going to do next step.
17:02I also worked on it and I also worked on it
17:04and I also worked on the two-pointer song
17:06and I also worked on it
17:08and I also worked on the performance
17:10and I also worked on BTS as well
17:14and I also worked on it as well
17:18and I also worked on it
17:20What do you think of the key words in the beginning?
17:25Wait a minute
17:26There's a lot of water
17:27It's a lot of water
17:30He's like this.
17:34Well, 2.0 is...
17:37Oh, why is it?
17:392.0 is Hobie's idea.
17:432.0 is the key word for Hobie.
17:47Oh, that's good.
17:50So, 2.0 is the topic.
17:53At the end of the session, there was like this.
17:56B, J-Hope, J-Hope.
17:58That's when it was a session.
18:01I was so tired.
18:03If you listen to the beat, it was really...
18:07It was a lot of fun.
18:08But it was a bit chill.
18:11It was a lot of fun.
18:12It was a lot of fun.
18:13It was a lot of fun.
18:13It was a lot of fun.
18:14Right, right.
18:15It was a lot of fun.
18:23There were so many cool producers on this album.
18:25And I know you're a producer yourself.
18:27And I'm curious, you know,
18:30some moments where
18:31maybe you learned something from something like
18:33from a Kevin Parker
18:35or, you know, things that may have...
18:37Or maybe where they learned from you
18:39because that's very possible, too.
19:06FAYA is such an incredible song.
19:08But I think that's the one
19:09where there's a mention of both Michael Jackson
19:12and Britney Spears, and I was wondering
19:15if some of you might want to talk about their impact.
19:18I mean, they are, you know, they're just truly icons,
19:22and F.I.E.E.S. just started from the word fire
19:26because it was the most used words out of the whole session.
19:30Like, when somebody likes a beat or a word or an outfit,
19:35then it's like, that's fire, that's fire, that's fire.
19:39It's like a hundred times a day.
19:42We hear it like every day, every day,
19:44and then everybody started to use the word.
19:47So you're almost making fun of the American producers
19:49by saying, because they keep saying it, right?
19:52Yo, that's fire, bro, that's fire, man.
19:55So we're trying to copy them, like, yo, that's fire too, you know?
19:59So I just, like, used that word into a song,
20:03it just perfectly matched the beat.
20:05And then I just hope it could be like a nuts song,
20:11like just mosh pit.
20:13Everyone just could just jump and just doing the mosh pit thing.
20:19And then why we use the Britney and Michael Jackson
20:24is because they're our Shirley icons
20:25and nobody just, you know, doesn't know them.
20:29That's all, yeah.
20:312.0 was almost addressed at yourselves, you said.
20:33But, I mean, if I think of any competition for you, I think of, you know, Taylor Swift,
20:39Harry Styles, Bruno Mars.
20:41If there's any competition, that's who it is.
20:44They're greater artists than us.
20:46We're just so small.
20:47We're just a boy band from Korea.
20:49And actually, 2.0 is, you know, it's about a lot of things.
20:57I also thought about haters, just like, you know, there are still, I think there are really people who just
21:05pray with a bottle of water in their home and then just please, BTS, just go fall down.
21:14Just, just please, BTS, just break apart and collapse.
21:18I think there are people something like that.
21:21And just, we're thinking about, you know, it's like, okay, guys, for two, three years, we have been apart, like,
21:27you know, to all the ministry.
21:28And three years passed and people are still, you know, there are armies, like, waiting for us.
21:34The world is waiting for us.
21:35So, you guys had your little fun and then knock, knock and pew, pew, bye.
21:42That's it.
21:44BTS, collectively, thanks so much for joining me.
21:47And again, welcome back to the cover of Rolling Stone.
21:49Thank you for inviting us.