00:00So, we can divide it into two parts as far as I can see it. When you view it in
00:09the Israeli-U.S.-Iran war, everything seems to be quiet now, but as far as we can see what happens
00:19with the Cerrito Formos, the dialogue between the U.S. and Iran,
00:26we don't know what will be with the conversations in Islamabad on Saturday, so now everything is calm, but everything
00:36can erupt in a second, again, and when we look at the second front, it's the Israeli Lebanon front that
00:44influenced the first front of the Israeli-American-Iran front, there is no ceasefire over there.
00:52Now, since the morning, Israel bombed and destructed Hezbollah terrorists, and Hezbollah fired on the north of Israel, the civilians,
01:08so in the Lebanon front, everything is the same, but not the same.
01:15And why do I say that? Because if the ceasefire between Israel-U.S. and Iran will continue, and the
01:28front of Israel against the Hezbollah will continue,
01:33and there won't be any linkage between the two of them, and there won't be any linkage between the two
01:39of them, it's a great sign that Israel made it to dislocate this arm,
01:49from the fact that Lebanon and the fact that Lebanon and Hezbollah are part of this war, they are not.
01:58The only one that started the war, because Israel and the U.S. started the war against Iran, is Hezbollah
02:07and Lebanon.
02:08And they decided to fire at Israel. Israel, there was a ceasefire before that, and they decided to erupt it
02:18with missiles against the Israeli citizens.
02:20And if it will continue, Israel will need, in order to protect its northern civilians, to get a buffer zone
02:35in the north of Israel, inside the Lebanese territory,
02:40and not let any, any civilian, or anyone, to be inside that territory that will be a threat to our
02:52citizens in the north.
02:55That's the position now.
02:57Sagiw, I want to highlight one point. When the ceasefire was announced, there was a post from Pakistan PM, Shabash
03:05Sharif,
03:05where he mentioned that the ceasefire is on all the fronts, including Lebanon.
03:11But hours after, we saw a post on X by Israeli Prime Minister saying, operation in Lebanon will continue.
03:22Where are these conflicting views coming from?
03:25Because after these operations in Lebanon by Israel, Iran has also said that we are again closing Strait of Hormuz.
03:34Can you give us a little bit of details why there are so many conflicting views?
03:40As far as we can see, because no one knows what's going around in the U.S.-Iranian path in the
03:49peace talks, in the ceasefire talks, not peace talks.
03:52No one knows what goes over there. No one knows what's the true proposal that is on the table.
03:59But we can hear what Vice President Vance said, and we can hear what the spokesperson of the White House
04:07said.
04:08Lebanon is not a part of this game, because Lebanon and Hezbollah decided to start a war with Israel.
04:16And there is no linkage. There is not supposed to be any linkage if Hezbollah decides to fire on Israeli
04:26citizens and if Israel and the U.S. are starting a war with Iran in order to avoid her from
04:36nuclear weapons.
04:37There is no linkage over there. The White House supports the Prime Minister's tweet, and we will have to wait
04:46until Saturday and maybe earlier, if there is an ultimatum from the White House to open the Strait of Hormuz.
04:56And we will have to see where it goes, whether it goes into Saturday or even earlier, and the bombing
05:05of Iran will erupt again.
05:10Tagiv, you mentioned that the operation in Lebanon are to target Hezbollah.
05:18But I want to make a point that in these attacks that were carried out yesterday, at least over 200
05:26people were killed and more than 1,000 were wounded in these air strikes.
05:31As a citizen, as an Israeli citizen, will you condemn this kind of targeting of civilians?
05:41Any civilian that dies, it's a very, very unfortunate accident when an Israeli attacks everyone.
05:52We have to know the difference between when Israel attacks somebody, precise attack, and between if Hezbollah is shooting dozens
06:06of rockets on houses and playgrounds and kindergarten, and that's a great difference.
06:14When Israel wants to target someone, especially Hezbollah headquarters, not 200 civilians died, but most of them were Hezbollah, maybe
06:29RJC, commanders that were together in a meeting.
06:35And when Israel does that, she has an incredible intelligence that says, in this apartment, in this floor, there are
06:48the terrorists.
06:49And one missile is going over there and destroyed and killed the bad guys.
06:57When Hezbollah, when Hezbollah shoots at Israel, is just firing rockets and hopes that they will make damage in property,
07:06in civilians, same as the Iranians, by the way.
07:09When I sit in the shelter, okay, I play roulette.
07:15The missile is not targeting any military target.
07:22They're just firing to Tel Aviv, and when they do it, especially when it's a cholesterol bomb, it's spread all
07:34over the area.
07:36And when I sit in the shelter with my family, we can hear the booms, the large noise of boom
07:44that targets only civilians.
07:47No military targets, no military targets, no anything that's remotely near to any military.
07:56And that's, by the way, that's a violation of international law.
08:01When Israel fires with F-16 or F-15 or F-35, it's a very precise attack.
08:13We have to know and to, when you speak about it, there is no need to condemn it.
08:20If civilians are targeted, it's very, very unfortunate.
08:24It's very, very sad.
08:28But Hezbollah, same as Hamas, by the way, and same as Iran, are embedded in the population.
08:38Even the international law forbids them to do it, and when they do it, the international law is permitting several
08:47damage that can happen when you attack.
08:55But as we can see, when Israel targeted the Dachia, it doesn't come with large bombs of F-15 and
09:07carpet all the Dachia.
09:10There are specific places, specific buildings.
09:15By the way, Israel gives an alert to these buildings, to the residents, and tells them to evacuate them.
09:22Why?
09:23He doesn't want civilians to be hurt.
09:27That's why we are doing it.
09:28And it's all by the international law.
09:32Tagov, I just also want to understand from you, do you think Israel was kept in dark about this ceasefire
09:39that was agreed between Iran and U.S.?
09:44And in addition to that, I want to understand from you,
09:49was Israel in favor of this ceasefire, even after knowing that, because Israel have certain motives and agendas that they
10:01want to meet when it comes to this war.
10:04Have they been able to achieve all of them?
10:09If not, was Israel in favor of this ceasefire, or was it wanted more from this war?
10:21First of all, it's a ceasefire.
10:24It doesn't mean that the war is ended.
10:27We will have to see what's going on with the talks in Islamabad,
10:31and we have to remember that everything can be changed in a minute.
10:38If the talks won't go, as we saw in early February,
10:45when the Iranians came to Steve Witkoff and told him,
10:50we are capable of making 11 nuclear bombs.
10:55That's how they started the negotiations.
11:01I don't think that Israel was kept in the dark.
11:05Nobody knows how much Israelis officials knew.
11:08But I think that there is no conflict and nothing can separate between what President Trump and Israel are doing
11:22together.
11:23It's the first time that the U.S. in decades joins one country in order to attack another country
11:34to achieve both interests.
11:40So, we will have to see what will happen in the talks in Islamabad.
11:46I'm not so optimistic, by the way.
11:49I think that the Iranians won't give up anything that is a part of the nuclear program,
12:02not to reach in Iran and not to promise that there won't be any Iranian nuclear program anywhere.
12:13But we just have to wait and see.
12:17We don't have too much to wait.
12:2024 hours, 48 hours, and we know where things are going.
12:26Sagi Boy, at last, I want to understand from you.
12:30How does Israel view Pakistan as emerging as a mediator?
12:36Is there a trust factor there?
12:40Do Israelis trust Pakistanis as mediator?
12:45I think I answered it the last time you asked me.
12:49And truly, I think that Israel was surprised when Pakistan was one of the main negotiators.
12:58We need to know and learn why.
13:01And if you go and touch and learn the books, the financial books,
13:06you see that there is a great connection between Iran and Pakistan on the oil issue.
13:12And Pakistan was hurt because of this war.
13:18I don't think that Israel trusts the Pakistani or philic shields too much.
13:24I know, and we saw what the visit of Prime Minister Modi did in Israel.
13:32It was a very touching visit.
13:36And I know that Israel and India, I know that's what's very, very important for your viewers.
13:44I know that the connection between Israel and India will continue to be very, very strong.
13:50Thank you so much, Sagi, for your time and speaking with us.
13:55Thank you very much.
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