00:00So, we can divide it into two parts as far as I can see it. When you view it in
00:09the Israeli-U.S.-Iran war, everything seems to be quiet now, but as far as we can see what happens
00:19with the Cerrito Formos, the dialogue between the U.S. and Iran,
00:26we don't know what will be with the conversations in Islamabad on Saturday, so now everything is calm, but everything
00:36can erupt in a second again, and when we look at the second front, it's the Israeli Lebanon front that
00:44influenced the first front of the Israeli-American-Iran front, there is no ceasefire over there.
00:52Now, since the morning, Israel bombed and destructed Hezbollah terrorists, and Hezbollah fired on the north of Israel, the civilians,
01:08so in the Lebanon front, everything is the same, but not the same.
01:15And why do I say that? Because if the ceasefire between Israel-U.S. and Iran will continue, and the
01:28front of Israel against the Hezbollah will continue,
01:33and there won't be any linkage between the two of them. It's a great sign that Israel made it to
01:44dislocate this arm,
01:49from the fact that Lebanon and the fact that Lebanon and Hezbollah are part of this war.
01:56They are not. The only one that started a war, because Israel and the U.S. started a war against
02:05Iran, is Hezbollah and Lebanon.
02:08And they decided to fire at Israel. There was a ceasefire before that.
02:15And they decided to erupt it with missiles against the Israeli citizens.
02:21And if it will continue, Israel will need, in order to protect its northern civilians, to get a buffer zone
02:35in the north of Israel, inside the Lebanese territory,
02:40and not let any civilian or anyone, to be inside the territory that will be a threat to our citizens
02:52in the north.
02:55That's the position now.
02:57Saagib, I want to highlight one point. When the ceasefire was announced, there was a post from Pakistan PM, Shabazz
03:05Sharif,
03:05where he mentioned that the ceasefire is on all the fronts, including Lebanon.
03:11But hours after, we saw a post on X by Israeli Prime Minister saying operation in Lebanon will continue.
03:22Where are these conflicting views coming from?
03:25Because after these operations in Lebanon by Israel, Iran has also said that we are again closing Strait of Hormuz.
03:34Can you give us a little bit of details why there are so many conflicting views?
03:40As far as we can see, because no one knows what's going around in the US-Iranian path in the
03:49peace talks, in the ceasefire talks, not peace talks.
03:52No one knows what goes over there. No one knows what's the true proposal that is on the table.
03:59But we can hear what Vice President Vance said, and we can hear what the spokesperson of the White House
04:07said.
04:08Lebanon is not a part of this game, because Lebanon and Hezbollah decided to start a war with Israel.
04:16And there is no linkage. There is not supposed to be any linkage if Hezbollah decides to fire on Israeli
04:26citizens and if Israel and the US are starting a war with Iran in order to avoid nuclear weapons.
04:37There is no linkage over there. The White House supports the Prime Minister's tweet.
04:44And we will have to wait until Saturday, and maybe earlier, if there is an ultimatum from the White House
04:54to open the Strait of Hormuz.
04:56And we will have to see where it goes, whether it goes into Saturday or even earlier, and the bombing
05:05of Iran will erupt again.
05:10Tagir, you mentioned that the operations in Lebanon are to target Hezbollah.
05:18But I want to make a point that in these attacks that were carried out yesterday, at least over 200
05:26people were killed and more than 1000 were wounded in these air strikes.
05:31As a citizen, as an Israeli citizen, will you condemn this kind of targeting of civilians?
05:41Any civilian that dies, it's a very, very unfortunate accident when an Israeli attacks everyone.
05:52We have to know the difference between when Israel attacks a precise attack and between if Hezbollah is shooting dozens
06:06of rockets on houses and playgrounds and kindergarten, that's a great difference.
06:14When Israel wants to target someone, especially Hezbollah headquarters, not 200 civilians died, but most of them were Hezbollah, maybe
06:29RJC commanders that were together in a meeting.
06:35And when Israel does that, she has an incredible intelligence that says in this apartment, in this floor, there are
06:48the terrorists and one missile is going over there and destroyed and destroyed and killed the bad guys.
06:57When Hezbollah.
06:58When Hezbollah shoots at Israel.
06:59When Hezbollah shoots at Israel is just firing rockets and hopes that they will make damage in property, in civilians,
07:08same as the Iranians, by the way.
07:09When I sit in the shelter, okay, I play roulette.
07:23When I sit in the shelter with my family.
07:27When I sit in the shelter with my family.
07:39When I sit in the shelter with my family.
07:44I sit in the shelter with my family.
07:44There's a very precise attack on Jews, no程 of boom that targets only civilians, no military targets, no anything that's
07:53remotely near to any military.
07:56And that's, by the way, that's an violation of international law.
08:01When Israel fires with an F-16 or F-15 or F-35, it's a very precise attack.
08:14We have to know, and when you speak about it, there is no need to condemn it.
08:20If civilians are targeted, it's very, very unfortunate.
08:24It's very, very sad.
08:28But Hezbollah, same as Hamas, by the way, and same as Iran, are embedded in the population.
08:38And even the international law forbids them to do it.
08:42And when they do it, the international law is permitting several damage that can happen when you attack.
08:55But as we can see, when Israel targeted the Dachia, it doesn't come with large bombs of F-15 and
09:08carpet all the Dachia.
09:10There are specific places, specific buildings.
09:15By the way, Israel gives an alert to these buildings, to the residents, and tells them to evacuate them.
09:22Why?
09:23He doesn't want civilians to be hurt.
09:27That's why we are doing it.
09:28And it's all by the international law.
09:32Tagov, I just also want to understand from you, do you think Israel was kept in dark about this ceasefire
09:39that was agreed between Iran and the U.S.?
09:44Or, and in addition to that, I want to understand from you, was Israel in favor of this ceasefire?
09:53Even after knowing that, because they, Israel have certain motives and agendas that they want to meet when it comes
10:02to this war.
10:03Or, have they been able to achieve all of them?
10:09Or, if not, was Israel in favor of this ceasefire?
10:14Or was it wanted more from this war?
10:21First of all, it's a ceasefire.
10:24It doesn't mean that the war is ended.
10:27We will have to see what's going on with the talks in Islamabad.
10:32And we have to remember that everything can be changed in a minute.
10:38If the talks won't go, as we saw in early February, when the Iranians came to Steve Witkoff and told
10:50him,
10:50we are capable of making 11 nuclear bombs.
10:55That's how they started the negotiations.
11:01I don't think that Israel was kept in the dark.
11:04Nobody knows how much Israel's officials knew.
11:09But I think that there is no conflict and nothing can separate between what President Trump and Israel are doing
11:22together.
11:22It's the first time that the U.S., in decades, joins one country in order to attack another country to
11:34achieve both interests.
11:40So, we will have to see what will happen in Islamabad.
11:46I'm not so optimistic, by the way.
11:50I think that the Iranians won't give up anything that is a part of the nuclear program.
12:02Not the reach in Iran, and not to promise that there won't be any Iranian nuclear program anywhere.
12:13But we just have to wait and see.
12:17We don't have too much to wait.
12:1924 hours, 48 hours, and we know where things are going.
12:26So, at last, I want to understand from you, how does Israel view Pakistan as emerging as a mediator?
12:35Is there a trust factor there?
12:39Do Israelis trust Pakistanis as mediator?
12:46I think I answered it the last time you asked me.
12:49And truly, I think that Israel was surprised when Pakistan was one of the main negotiators.
12:59We need to know and learn why.
13:01And if you go and touch and learn the books, the financial books,
13:06you see that there is a great connection between Iran and Pakistan on the oil issue.
13:12And Pakistan was hurt because of this war.
13:18I don't think that Israel trusts Pakistani or philish shields too much.
13:24I know, and we saw, what the visit of Prime Minister Modi did in Israel.
13:33It was a very touching visit.
13:35And I know that Israel and India, I know that's what's very, very important for your viewers.
13:44I know that the connection between Israel and India will continue to be very, very strong.
13:50Thank you so much, Sagi, for your time and speaking with us.
13:55Thank you very much.
13:56Thank you very much.
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