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Broker outages in Malaysia during March didn’t just disrupt trades, they exposed the strain on legacy systems in a market that now moves in real time.
At the same time, platforms like Moomoo are gaining ground with low-cost access, faster onboarding, and the ability to trade across global markets from a single app.
Tehmina Kaoosji speaks with Isaac Lim, Chief Market Strategist, Moomoo Southeast Asia, on what this new trading landscape means for investors in Malaysia and the region.

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00:08Hello and welcome to Nyaga Spotlight with me Tamina Kaosji. Nyaga Spotlight takes us through
00:12the week in economic analysis and future affairs. So today on analysis our spotlight is on trading
00:182.0 and digital trading platforms. Now Malaysia's trading system got a wake-up call all of last
00:25month. Several disruptions actually they were not just technical glitches they also expose how much
00:31of our brokerage infrastructure is still built for a slower desktop era market. Meanwhile digital
00:37trading platforms like Moomoo are gaining ground across the region. So this isn't only about new
00:44platforms coming in it's also about ensuring the rest of the system can keep up and what that means
00:49for how and where Malaysians will be choosing to invest next. Joining me on the show today to
00:56discuss this growing market is Isaac Lipp, Chief Market Strategist for Moomoo Southeast Asia. Isaac
01:03a very good morning to you. How are you doing today? Morning to you Tamina. Thank you for having me
01:06in
01:06this wonderful studio. Very good. All right amazing. So Isaac you're coming in at a very crucial time
01:12when there's a lot of things happening in the market both globally as well as regionally
01:17and now hopefully looking locally retail investors today they're expecting speed, they're expecting
01:23agility, they're also expecting transparency and low costs. That is a lot to balance. Tell us a little
01:30bit about how Moomoo's been doing and your thoughts on this before we move into the discussion proper.
01:36Well you know thanks for having me here. I think exactly what you're pointing out it's a lot to digest.
01:41In fact it's a very big ask. You know generally a lot of retail investors they want low cost, they
01:49want
01:49transparency, they want execution and the beauty of it is that you know that is actually the heart of what
01:57we do at Moomoo. It sounds a bit cliche right but really when you log on to the Moomoo app,
02:04when you use a
02:04Moomoo platform, the first thing that you see is not so much being blasted recommendations, stock
02:12recommendations, that kind of thing. The first thing that you see is really just your positions.
02:16Just give you a quick health take, spot check on your position, how are your positions doing
02:21overnight and so once you have that snapshot you're ready to meet the investing day ahead.
02:26Right now you can go into the markets, you can start looking for news and in fact our news is
02:31not
02:32our news is not something that we just blindly generate in-house. I think a lot of our users can
02:38attest to the fact that our news comes from various reputable channels. We pull a lot of
02:44economic news data from the likes of Bloomberg, Refinitiv. So these are the kind of things that you know
02:53we give to our clients for free. All of it sounds like it's really so much in line with everything
03:00which the consumer today wants because when you talked about how the news collation is done across
03:05verified platforms, that in itself would be such a boon rather than you know an everyday investor
03:10having to go through let's say five to ten different websites and then decide what to read best and when.
03:16Let's talk about how you're feeling the retail sentiment is going with regards to of course the retail
03:21participation and this is not something which only began because of the pandemics and the lockdowns
03:27and people being online a lot more right? Yeah so I think a lot of it actually goes back to
03:35the age of digitalization when you know many people across the region whether you are wealthy,
03:42middle-income or low-income, you actually have access to a digital phone right? You have access to
03:47a smartphone, your internet connection is there and by doing so this actually allows retail investors
03:54to have access to the markets basically anytime right? So as long as you're carrying a smart device,
04:00tablet phone, you have access to the markets and I think that's what Moomoo we're trying to bring to
04:05people. We're trying to democratize the access to the financial markets. No longer is financial markets a
04:10scary word where people are unknown, they don't know what to do right but over there in Moomoo we
04:15actually have a whole plethora of things right? Research, we have education, we have news, we have data
04:23that we give to our users and I think that is why you know people realize that hey investing is
04:29not
04:29something that is scary, it's something that I can easily access now and we see a bigger take-up of
04:35retail actually starting to enter the markets. Incredible because also some data that we have
04:41from Bursa Malaysia is showing us that for the Malaysian market we had roughly around 320 odd K
04:50trading accounts and that was in 2024. In 2025 that number was almost cresting to 400,000 and data
04:58shows that around 80% of these new accounts were actually opened across digital platforms so I think
05:04those are some very strong signs there. Let's now move into platform versus infrastructure gaps Isaac.
05:10So the other issue is of course brokerage platforms are showing their age a little bit and that has
05:17been a bit of an issue for Malaysian traders especially in the past month. So what are some of the
05:23biggest
05:23structural differences between the old school and well the new school? Great question that you actually
05:30brought up Tamina. I think a lot of what we see in the old system just a quick side fact
05:38right I actually
05:38started my career as a brokerage as an in-house dealer so I sort of came from the old system.
05:44So you
05:44transitioned as well? Yes so I sort of saw the entire evolution and I think a lot of it started
05:50when you
05:50know when legacy platforms they have they actually tend to outsource a lot of their infrastructure the
05:58support to external vendors. No harm in that because you actually allow for more focus on building out
06:05your own products your own platform that kind of thing but the issue with that is you know when there
06:10is a downtime there is sort of there's sort of a hiccup people actually end up having to scramble hey
06:17let me reach out to my vendor let me reach out to the platform the company that helped me white
06:21label
06:21this trading platform that I'm building on and that takes a bit of a turnaround time there's a lack of
06:27response what we actually do here at Moomoo is that a lot of our infrastructure is built in-house from
06:33the ground up so if there's any time that that something goes wrong in the event that something
06:39goes wrong we actually do have our entire software team infrastructure team that is on standby to
06:45immediately come in and try to resolve the crisis right so I'm I'm not pointing fingers at anybody but
06:52I think across the board right there will always be hiccups but it's how quickly the company can
06:58actually come to deal and resolve this crisis that really matters to the clients our money is at stake
07:03yes everyone's money is at stake indeed and I think it's more and more about ensuring that it's a closed
07:08system rather than an open one which is also vulnerable to these breakdowns as well now let's look
07:14at cost democratization versus sustainability so Moomoo also does state explicitly that you know you're
07:21associated often with low cost or zero commission trading how does one balance that when it comes to
07:27the business model I'm interested so of course when we first enter the markets you know we're associated
07:33with low cost but I think over time both Malaysian investors the markets have shown a sort of a growth
07:40a
07:40sort of maturity right and I would really hope for Moomoo to move away from this low cost imagery to
07:46one
07:46that um we are actually in a long-term partnership with our clients with our users uh a lot of
07:53a lot
07:54of this uh low cost low cost is one thing right but sure end of the day you want your
07:58clients to be able
07:59to come back to you um your lifetime value you want to promote that client stickiness because um having
08:06that trustworthy long-term stable relationship is definitely something better than you know your
08:11low cost fly-by-night system and over here at Moomoo is not just the cost factor we look at
08:17it is also the kind of research and and data that we give to you and what we're actually trying
08:23to do
08:24here in Malaysia and across the region is that we are actually also building out an education arm right
08:30so we provide a lot of free education um specifically targeting beginners and intermediate investors so
08:37it doesn't really matter you know if you're entirely new or you're coming in with a bit of knowledge
08:42at least you know that Moomoo has this um catalog of uh teaching uh materials that you can actually
08:48pick up this very vibrant archive of sorts exactly um uh would you be able to share anything with us
08:53about
08:54what the age demographic is looking like uh from Moomoo's uh back-end data about who the um signups
09:01are and who the most active users are are we looking at a younger market now isaac so um i
09:06well i don't
09:07have the specific numbers but i can tell you that yes we are indeed looking at a younger market gen
09:12z yeah
09:14are we still looking at millennials or gen x we are it's actually between gen z to to to millennials
09:20um
09:21uh and then of course we are hoping to also um target the gen gen x people a bit older
09:27uh because
09:28you know that's where we also want them to to start trading with us um but at the same time
09:32they're
09:33stuck within their their systems they have their comfort zones right exactly um the trouble with um
09:39the trouble with the gen z is that you know um they're still a bit young right so i think
09:44education takes
09:45more of uh importance or more of a precedence for them so that's where we want the education to come
09:50in
09:50for the millennials um it's not so much about education it's more about hey how can we partner
09:56with you how can moomoo partner with our users to actually start building your wealth right in in
10:02in an era in a market where volatile and inflation is rampant even though we're on a rate cutting cycle
10:09but we can see that you know with all these concerns about inflation pressures coming in you know how do
10:14you build your wealth that can actually give you a bit more of a comfortable future going forward i
10:20think that's the kind of question that at moomoo we want to try to help our users answer and that
10:26definitely i think resonates with um investors particularly the younger ones yes given that
10:30everyone's also looking for multiple income streams exactly well thanks very much isaac for the
10:35conversation in so far well don't go anywhere we'll be right back with the rest of this conversation on
10:39trading 2.0 digital platforms and beyond stay tuned
11:00welcome back to nyaga spotlight with me tamina khasji so going straight back into the conversation
11:04on trading 2.0 with isaac limb chief market strategist with moomoo southeast asia so isaac
11:10digging a little bit deeper now let's go into behavioral shifts and over trading uh now there's
11:16also some growing concern globally about the um inherently well addictive nature of platforms which
11:23also use gamified elements and also the fact that uh there may be risks of over trading on digital
11:30related platforms so how does moomo actually approach user engagement while at the same time
11:35encouraging people to um be in control of their trading behaviors and patterns too um you know um we
11:43are also actually to add on to your point of gamification we are actually also seeing the rise of
11:48prediction markets yes so that's quite a big thing calci and etc especially in the past two and a half
11:53months only yes it's it's quite um it's really an area of the market that has been picking up um
11:59the
11:59professionals will say we're using this to judge market sentiment um the the the the the the wild
12:07wild west culture say we're using this to gamble and and i think um everything in life there's risk
12:13right um whether we're investing in the markets um there's also an entire uh degree of risk that you
12:20want to take on or you or you do not wish to take on and and i think um investors
12:25have to come to
12:26accept the fact that when you're investing any platform moomoo or any of our competitors platform
12:32you are taking on a bit of risk um but what we try to do and moomoo as i mentioned
12:37you know we are
12:37trying to make sure that you're coming in with a responsible um responsible idea where you are already
12:44educated and if you're not educated at moomoo we do our best to educate you and level up your
12:50financial literacy so while everything has risk i think the only thing that um the only time when
12:57it really becomes a gamble is when you hear when an investor here oh my cousin said this or my
13:02friend
13:03said this you know you i want to buy into this because of hearsay and i think that's really dangerous
13:07so we want our investors we want our users to be to be people that make educated decisions right um
13:14while taking on risk and that's really how we we approach the markets it's not so much about gambling
13:20understood fantastic thanks for that so now let's look at uh spreading the conversation to looking at
13:26the regional competitiveness and also malaysia's position so some initial thoughts on that uh what
13:31have you been seeing from the markets in the past uh five six months or so so i mean of
13:37course as we
13:37entered um as we entered 2026 you know people the narrative was that a lot of investors are concerned
13:44that we're seeing huge equity outflows out of the malaysian markets right but um 2026 story has really
13:51flipped that that idea on its head uh what we are seeing is that there is a general loss in
13:56confidence
13:57in the u.s and in the u.s markets by extension and we are also seeing investors start to
14:03start to bring
14:03their equity investments to other geographical regions so you have the european region um fun fact
14:11ever since the breakout of the middle east crisis uh the best performing about five weeks and counting
14:18now five weeks and counting exactly the best performing markets were actually the southeast asian markets so
14:23you have your singapore sti you have your malaysia klci and then of course following very closely is
14:29your thailand set 50. so you can you can see that you know um investors globally not just in malaysia
14:35are starting to be a bit more aware and trying to rotate their capital out of u.s and diversifying
14:42it
14:42so i think from a global perspective just giving a bit of flavor you know i think malaysia
14:48as part of this region stands a very good chance of growth moving forward as long as there's going
14:53to be huge volatility in the global market which is a fascinating thing about markets in general
14:57right um so also the fact that malaysia is so highly digitalized definitely places us in a good
15:03position when it comes to competitiveness for southeast asia um let's look um further beyond
15:09as you were mentioning of course there's been a lot of uh global market access and capital flows um let's
15:15look a little bit more towards um hong kong and other markets what kind of uh predictions or perhaps
15:21uh educated outcomes are you predicting for maybe q3 q4 great question i wish i had a crystal ball
15:28through the head but um again in line of um in the spirit of making very educated uh deductions uh
15:34we
15:35from for me i think the while the middle east crisis is sort of taking the headlines now let's not
15:41forget
15:41that the two big elephants in the room is still that very strained tension relationship between us and china
15:48so a lot of what's going to happen in the chinese equity markets will depend on two things one will
15:54be how the trade tariffs and the trade policies between us and china play out so that will be down
15:59to president trump and president see their next meeting if it happens at all um that's the first
16:04thing the second thing will be you know the chinese market is um is is in a sort of a
16:10quagmire in
16:10the sense that they really need to depend on um stimulus and injection from the chinese government
16:16government so i think investors should also watch out for that um that if you really want to jump
16:21back in into the chinese markets these are the two factors to watch out for um but by and large
16:26i really
16:27do think that um bringing it back to the home market i still think that you know this is where
16:31mumu
16:32thinks and mumu finds it worth investing um malaysia's um equity market is not um it's not something that
16:40is newborn is it is actually quite mature you guys have a very um wide range of equities um especially
16:47you know in light of the middle east crisis um malaysia's um oil and gas industry um actually has been
16:54performing very very well with lower volatility compared to other regions so i think from an investment
17:00perspective um if you want some sort of exposure to the oil and gas industry but yet coming in at
17:06a
17:06lower volatility then malaysia is definitely your choice markets so i think there is a part to play
17:11in the greater picture of investing in this environment yeah thanks for the insights isaac now it's also been
17:17interesting because the securities commission in malaysia so they have actually um quoted that our
17:22digital investment management aum has actually um gone up to uh 1.9 billion in 2024 which is basically
17:31a 500 time growth since that arm was launched in 2018. now also as we're reaching a little bit more
17:38of a maturity when it comes to it being almost 10 years since people were able to gain access to
17:44digital
17:45platforms and global market access would you say there is some kind of a structural shift in how
17:51malaysian and regional investors are allocating capital away from their local domestic markets
17:59not because they're ignoring them but because they're also seeing ripe opportunities in some regional
18:04and global trades absolutely right tamina i think um this is definitely a structural shift it's not
18:10something that um that is cyclical um one point that i really like that you brought up is that there's
18:15a
18:16maturing of the markets it shows that the investors mindset here in malaysia is um starting to think
18:22outside the local equities market um having said that it's also more of a look you know cost of living
18:29is going up if i don't invest if i don't grow the salary that i get or if i don't
18:34find a second stream of
18:35income how am i going to maintain my quality of life how am i going to provide for my family
18:41so i think
18:42these two factors combined you know are questions that investors are increasingly starting to ask
18:47themselves and in this day and age i think that the trend of retail trading and and the volume that
18:53they contribute to the market is only going to grow because it's not so much of uh uh should i
18:58invest or
18:59should i save the money it's uh i have to invest in order to grow my money right and how
19:04can i do it in a safe
19:05educated manner without gambling it away how and where and when exactly yeah it's no longer a why
19:11correct right so that's definitely a huge perceptual shift um now easing out and landing the conversation
19:17uh let's talk a little about the next frontier for retail investing um of course crystal balls aside
19:24but looking forward to the next three to five years isaac what would you say would be the definition of
19:30a
19:30winning trading platform for our extremely vibrant southeast asian region um and then i would like
19:37to bring you back to your very first statement of this uh right segment um which is you know cost
19:43transparency and uh ease of um ease of ease of excess um it used to be low cost right because
19:51i mean of
19:51course when you're investing you're trading you want to keep your cost low so that you can maximize your
19:56returns but cost in this day and age where technology makes things cheaper is not going to be the sole
20:02defining um factor you need uh quality education you need quality research right um but at the same time
20:10having said that what's stopping you example if you're my client if i were to give you quality research
20:15say that i pull from morningstar bloomberg refinative of all of which we actually have on the bloom
20:21uh on the mumu platform right what's not what's not stopping you from taking this data and going to
20:27trade on another platform right fair enough yeah so of course then that brings me to my third factor
20:33which is the ease of having everything at your fingertips which is um you know with mumu you can
20:39manage your investments you can do your short-term trading um we have um we are we're looking to increase
20:45more products to give to our malaysian users as the maturity of our malaysian users the knowledge
20:51starts to to to upgrade and grow i think that's when they're ready for it we'll start to push it
20:56out
20:56to them so that you know you can actually start properly building your portfolio on one app mumu
21:03so honestly it's going to be about the super app of the near future right all right yeah so i
21:10i wouldn't
21:10really call it a super app um but um yeah essentially that that that is the idea where
21:15a one-stop shop in one-stop shop that's right i think there's definitely um there's digital
21:19exhaustion but at the same time there's most likely going to be even more growing interest as the
21:25younger gen z's also mature into investment age and having the disposable income in fact you know
21:31termina i would go further to say since you mentioned three to five years earlier all right i
21:35would go further to say that in the future um we while we are seeing the gen z's starting to
21:41ask us
21:42hey can i start investing and we tell them no actually you're a bit too young right you start
21:46with paper trade first i think on the flip side um the the millennials that are now entering parenthood
21:52right you want to go one step further to think about not just legacy planning but how can you teach
21:58financial literacy absolutely to to your to your to your children and i think that sets them up for
22:04an even better future than up the way our parents have have have left left left it for us so
22:10i think
22:10that is the that's the direction i see the growth of the retail segment in and i think that's the
22:15future that we should try to build towards isaac thank you so much for your insights on today's show
22:19well that's all we have time for today on nyaga spotlight cheaper access faster platforms they might be
22:25opening the door but they also raise new questions about risk behavior and who will be benefiting and
22:30what matters now is whether this builds a more informed investor base or just a faster more crowded
22:35market we'll see you next week on nyaga spotlight with more business analysis and insights i'm tamina
22:40carl street signing off for now
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