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01:34The city of Dublin sits about 20 miles from the city of Oakland.
01:38There's a growing community that has incorporated a lot of Silicon Valley types of folks.
01:44We didn't have a whole lot of murders that take place.
01:48I'm guessing we probably had maybe one every other year at the time.
01:56What are you doing?
02:03What are you doing?
02:04What are you doing?
02:04It sounded like a shot. I didn't know if it was a gunshot or what, but it sounded like there
02:08was somebody in the house.
02:11About 5.50 p.m., a call for service came out through dispatch.
02:16Gunshots were fired at a residence on the west end of town.
02:20I arrive and I see my partner, who happened to get there before I did, and he was out front
02:25talking with some of the neighbors.
02:27What we learned was that Sally, who lived at the residence, had a boyfriend, Lester.
02:34She's 91 years old. Les is also in his 90s, and he calls her every day at 4 o'clock.
02:42And Lester had repeatedly tried to get a hold of Sally that day, and she wasn't answering.
02:49And he became concerned. So he asked his son Jeff to respond to the house.
02:55When the son got to the residence, the son heard what he thought was a gunshot.
03:01At that point, the son went to the neighbor's house, and we received a 911 call.
03:06So my partner and I entered. I could hear a huge commotion.
03:12Yelling, screaming. You can kind of hear thumping. We can tell it was upstairs.
03:18We get to the top of the stairs. All I could see was a male facing away from us, laying
03:23in the hallway with his back to us, and a female standing in the hallway facing us.
03:28The female's covered in blood. There's an expandable baton on the ground that's bent.
03:33Looks like it's been used to hit either the female or the male. We don't know.
03:39There was blood spatter. There's a stun gun. There's bullets on the floor.
03:47Absolute chaos.
03:48We started giving commands as we normally would, you know, show us your hands.
03:54After telling everyone to stop, the male made a kind of this abrupt move.
04:00And although we didn't know who the suspect was, the male tends to be the aggressor in domestic violence.
04:06And given the fact that he's maybe trying to flee, trying to get out of there, my partner deployed his
04:13taser to subdue him.
04:15And I can hear the male yelling out about his child, asking where is my daughter type of verbiage.
04:24And the female who's standing in front of me points towards the bathroom.
04:29It's kind of eerie because there is a full length mirror on that bathroom door.
04:36In the reflection, what I saw was another woman dressed in all black who appeared to be hiding in the
04:43bedroom.
04:44Now I've got an additional person.
04:47And at that point, I had the rest of that hallway to search.
04:53I still had a child to locate maybe more victims, maybe more suspects.
04:59I ordered her out of the bedroom.
05:01That same moment, I can hear other officers coming in and coming up the stairs to assist.
05:07The male was handcuffed and escorted out of the house.
05:11They escort him to a patrol car and they do a pat search of him.
05:15He didn't have any weapons.
05:18The women are escorted out of the house as well.
05:23One female, she appears calm.
05:26The other woman, she's got some visible injuries to her.
05:31The male who has injuries, he's got redness all over his face, his head.
05:36He's swollen or starting to swell.
05:39He's been in a fight of some sort.
05:45My partner and I continued the search of the upstairs.
05:48And in the bathroom, we located the daughter, a two-year-old girl.
05:53She was handed over to one of the other responding officers who escorted her, took her outside, away from the
05:59residence.
06:01We didn't find anyone else in the house.
06:05We're trying to sort out who everybody is on scene.
06:07So, in talking to the two females on the curb line, we learned that one of them was Rosa Hill.
06:15The other female we identified as May Lee, Rosa's mom.
06:21We found out that Rosa was married to Eric Hill, who was the individual handcuffed in the police car.
06:28They were estranged at that point, but they were married and we found out that they did have, at the
06:33time, a two-year-old child in common.
06:35Eric lives here with his daughter.
06:37The two-year-old ultimately went into their care of Child Protective Services for that night.
06:45It appeared to me that we potentially have one or two female victims of domestic violence.
06:53And this male suspect who has gotten into some sort of physical altercation with his wife.
07:01But we got to figure out what the facts are.
07:05And in talking to Eric while he's in the back of a patrol vehicle, he is frantic.
07:11He was concerned about his grandmother, Sally, and where she was.
07:16She's 91 years old.
07:18This was Sally's house and she wasn't in the house.
07:22You can hear him talk about how she doesn't go anywhere.
07:25She doesn't drive.
07:27She's pretty much homebound, so she has to be somewhere in the residence.
07:33So our group of folks searched through the residence again, tried to find Sally, but we didn't find her.
07:40Very quickly, we looked in the backyard, but once again, we did not see her.
07:45And we're starting to get concerned about where she might be.
07:49At that point, we basically sealed the house off and make sure that there is no entry into that location.
07:56When walking through the hallway upstairs, there was blood strewn throughout the walls.
08:02There was a stun gun up there.
08:04There was bullets on the ground.
08:06It looked like two different calibers of bullets that were on the ground.
08:10Why is there all these weapons?
08:11This isn't just a domestic, regular domestic violence incident that occurred.
08:16There's something else that went down.
08:18And now add in the fact that Sally is missing.
08:22The hair on the back of my neck is starting to stand up.
08:26When the officers conduct a search in the backyard, they found a backpack.
08:32And this backpack looked almost as if it was strategically placed underneath a wheelbarrow as to hide it,
08:38or to set it up to go grab when needed.
08:43In that backpack were a set of handcuffs, a three-blade throwing star, a pocket saw, goggles, duct tape, rope,
08:53arrows for a crossbow gun.
08:57Why are these things here? And how do they fit into the puzzle of this investigation?
09:01How were they either used in this crime already, or how were they potentially staged at this location to be
09:09used at a later time?
09:13We asked Eric if the backpack belonged to him.
09:16We asked Rosa and May about the backpack, and nobody involved in this is going to claim that the backpack
09:22belongs to them.
09:24And at that point in time, they do a path search of Rosa and May.
09:29And when they encounter Rosa, she happens to have a firearm in her pant pocket.
09:36Rosa said during the altercation that Eric produced a gun and threatened her.
09:40I said during the struggle that Eric dropped the gun and that she had picked it up.
09:46She said that she came to see her two-year-old baby and to talk about custody issues with Eric.
09:55When Rosa got there, the front door was left ajar.
10:01She goes in the house.
10:04She saw that nobody was home and waits for Eric.
10:09Her mother met her there because she was afraid of Eric.
10:13He had rage and she said that Eric attacks her and her mother.
10:17And she was able to acquire the firearm because he pointed at her.
10:22Also, Rosa and May never encountered Sally while in the house.
10:29But Eric was blaming both May and Rosa that they had come and they were attacking him.
10:34We know that Eric has injuries.
10:37We know that May has injuries.
10:40Rosa really didn't have any injuries at all.
10:42But all three individuals were taken and assessed medically and then we're going to be on route to the station.
10:52We really started wondering what was going on here and we knew we needed to keep digging deeper.
10:59We're getting two different stories and trying to navigate who our real suspect is.
11:04But at the same time, finding Sally is extremely important.
11:08And we need to determine if she is related to the assault investigation that's going on at this house.
11:15This case was crazy, like nothing that I'd ever seen in my law enforcement career.
11:21We want to know if there is previous violence involved with Eric and Rosa.
11:26We all went to a lawyer to see about getting some visitation rights.
11:32I tell mom, no matter what, no matter what, don't open the door.
11:37There was a Google search of how to murder.
11:40This was not a spur of the moment crime.
11:43This was really planned out.
11:58At this point in the investigation, multiple things are happening.
12:01There are several people doing several different things.
12:04We're searching that residence to try to find Sally.
12:07The property is rather large. I think it's about a half an acre.
12:11And I assigned officers to do a canvas of the area as well.
12:15At the same time, Rosa Hill, May Lee, and Eric Hill are being taken to the hospital to be treated
12:23for the injuries.
12:24While Rosa, May, and Eric were assessed medically, we want to know if there is previous violence involved with Eric
12:31and Rosa.
12:32And if there's anything that recently occurred that might have triggered this type of response.
12:38Eric's father, Greg, who was the son of Sally, lived out of state at the time.
12:44We called and we had a conversation with Greg Hill.
12:48And in talking to him, we found out that he already knew what was going on.
12:54I live out of state.
12:55And earlier that day, I got a call from Les, mom's boyfriend of many years.
13:02And he was just frantic.
13:04They always spoke on the phone on the days that they weren't together.
13:08That day, he was calling her and calling her and he couldn't get her.
13:12And he called me to say, you better come out here. Something's happened to Sally.
13:17He wasn't sure what. They couldn't find her.
13:21So I had to fly to California.
13:25And Les had called his son to go over and check on my mom.
13:29And he had come to the house and they couldn't tell what was happening.
13:33And so they called the police.
13:37And then Les had called and said that Eric had been handcuffed and put in a patrol car.
13:44And I'm like, what?
13:49They couldn't tell by the way things were going down whether Eric was the aggressor or what was happening.
13:57I was shocked, but not really.
14:01I mean, by that time, trouble was well afoot.
14:09In 2002, Eric was working for the Alameda County Social Services.
14:15That's where he met May.
14:17And May introduced him ultimately to Rosa, who was her daughter.
14:21Rosa had worked in Silicon Valley as an information technician.
14:28When Eric first mentioned meeting Rosa, he talked about how much fun they had, how smart Rosa was.
14:36They seemed to like some of the same things.
14:39Eric was very, very happy when he met Rosa.
14:44We learned that Eric Hill and Rosa Hill have been married since 2005.
14:52Eric did tell me that as soon as the wedding was over, everything changed.
14:58It was no longer the sweet woman that he'd fallen in love with.
15:04But Eric was extremely happy one year later when he found out that they were going to have a baby.
15:11He just couldn't wait.
15:14But when the baby was born, that's when trouble really became evident.
15:19Rosa was no longer working, so he took on a second job working nights at Walgreens.
15:26But it never seemed to be enough.
15:29Rosa was never happy.
15:33And then very soon after the baby was born, Rosa kicked Eric out.
15:40And he went out to Dublin and told my mother, who was his grandmother.
15:47And that was the beginning of his living with her.
15:53So at that point, Rosa wouldn't let him see the baby.
15:58And we all went to a lawyer with Eric to see about getting some visitation rights anyway.
16:07During the custody hearings, there were many things that each of them had to do.
16:12And part of it was to see a family mediator.
16:15And I know she didn't follow through with that.
16:19Rosa was told to get a job. She didn't get a job. She didn't do any of the things the
16:24judge told her.
16:26Over time, Eric was given more and more time with Elizabeth.
16:31That's when it got ugly.
16:33Rosa started making up stories around Eric molesting the baby.
16:42It was quite an ordeal for Eric to go through this, but he was cleared of all those allegations.
16:49And then Rosa called his work and said he issued threats and they wouldn't let him in the building.
16:56They did have to put him on suspension, but then after they investigated everything, he got his job back.
17:05At that point, Eric was given 85% physical custody and 100% legal custody.
17:14I was concerned for both Eric and my mother because Rosa was intent on making Eric's life hell.
17:20And I tell mom, no matter what, no matter what, don't open the door to Rosa.
17:28There's something wrong. Rosa and Eric are estranged.
17:33They have separated and Eric has received primary custody of their two year old.
17:39Why are these two females inside this house?
17:44We know that Sally Hill lives in this house.
17:46We know that there was an altercation upstairs, but we don't know where Sally is and we don't know what
17:52happened to her.
17:54We continue to look for Sally and kind of the last place that we hadn't searched yet was a shed
18:02that was on the side yard of the house.
18:05And it had a padlock. So it wasn't easily accessible.
18:09We went and got a bolt cutter. And as we cut the padlock and opened it, our worst nightmares occurred.
18:26We continue to look for Sally, Eric's grandmother. She's 91 years old, lives in this house, and we can't find
18:34her.
18:34We open the door to the shed in the backyard. And we see a garbage can. And we can see
18:44a human foot. And we all know that's Sally in the garbage can.
18:51And our hearts dropped. She was found with a plastic bag over her head, wrapped in sheets, wrapped in rope.
19:02There had been no respect for her whatsoever.
19:09The coroner's office was summoned and they came out and removed her body. And we now know that we have
19:17a homicide investigation.
19:20After finding Sally, we know that there's no reason for Eric to harm his grandmother.
19:27So at this point, he was considered to be a victim in this incident. And Rosa and May had no
19:35reason to go in that house without anybody's permission.
19:38We believe they are involved with Sally's murder. But we're still trying to figure things out.
19:50And at the same time, when one of the officers was doing a canvas of the neighborhood, he located a
19:55vehicle that was occupied by an Asian male.
19:59He was about a block away from the crime scene. He had moved his seat back and was slouched down
20:06in the vehicle, almost like he didn't want to be seen.
20:09He was identified as Ping Lee, the husband of May Lee and the father of Rosa.
20:15He tells us that his wife, May, had asked him to take her to the residence in Dublin.
20:21Had asked him to drop her off about a block away.
20:26He knew that Sally lived there. He knew that his son-in-law was living there.
20:32And he also knew that May was going there to help out Rosa in some way.
20:37He denied knowing anything else. But we found it very strange that he would drop her off a block away,
20:43not in front of the house.
20:45And from where we find him, we know that he was able to see everything that happened.
20:49And still at no time does he exit his vehicle or come and contact the police to see what's going
20:55on.
20:56He has now potentially brought the suspect to this crime.
21:01And he's taken back to the station for interviewing.
21:08Detectives returned to the station to start conducting interviews of everybody involved.
21:14They had just gotten out of the hospital. Rosa really didn't have any injuries at all.
21:20And May suffered a small laceration on her head requiring a couple stitches or more.
21:26Eric had laceration to his head, multiple taser probes.
21:32Eric had taser marks on the front of his body.
21:35Yes, Eric had been tased by our deputies. However, he was tased in the back.
21:40So it was definitely evident that he had also been tased by either Rosa or May.
21:48He had an injury to his throat that was definitely some pressure that had been applied.
21:54You could see that there was redness and some swelling there as well.
21:57He basically was beaten all over the place.
22:01But going into Eric's interview, what I'm trying to find out is, step by step, how did this evolve to
22:08what it became?
22:11I really didn't think Rosa and May would do something like that.
22:16I thought things were finally getting normal until the very moment of the attack.
22:22I told the police when I first met Rosa. She was kind of shy.
22:26But once we started talking, I got to really see how smart she was.
22:32I got to become fascinated by her.
22:35But after we got married, Rosa started picking fights over everything.
22:40At a certain point, Rosa basically told me never to come back.
22:46And for about a year, she did not let me see my daughter.
22:51That was devastating.
22:52And that's why I had to start court proceedings.
22:58And I sued for 50-50 custody.
23:03Once I was granted some custody of my daughter, Rosa started getting really mean and vindictive.
23:10And when she made these accusations that I was abusing and molesting my daughter, I was dumbstruck.
23:19She did that, not because they were true, but because they would hurt me.
23:23And it worked.
23:27But by January of 2009, I had 85% fiscal custody and 100% legal custody.
23:35We kind of developed a routine with the custody, doing our handoffs and trades.
23:42And May was always the one that did the talking.
23:46Rosa just stood in the background.
23:48I thought they came to accept what was going on.
23:52And then the police let me know that they had found that my grandmother was dead.
24:03I broke down and cried.
24:06I definitely feel lucky to be alive.
24:17In talking to Eric, he was very emotional.
24:20And he had just gotten out of the hospital.
24:22He just got beat.
24:24And he was very much upset about his grandmother.
24:30She was always big on family.
24:34And she loved being a grandmother.
24:36I never dreamed that Rosa and May would do something like that.
24:44You could see his physical reaction recalling the events.
24:54In the morning, like any other day, I went to work.
24:59I got off at 5 and I went down to the daycare center and picked up my daughter
25:05and drove straight home the way I normally did.
25:08But when I got there, Les' son Jeff and his wife Uda were up by the front door.
25:19Les was the guy my grandmother was dating.
25:22And he had called multiple times and she never answered the phone.
25:27He was really worried about my grandmother's welfare.
25:31Les, also in his 90s, sent his son Jeff to go and check on her.
25:40They stayed by the front door.
25:43I went upstairs and I was carrying my daughter with me.
25:46By the time I got to my grandmother's room, I didn't see her.
25:52I heard a noise behind me.
25:57And I turned around and I saw May in the hallway.
26:02And I was like, why are you here?
26:06And she said that my grandmother had called her because she needed help.
26:11Which made no sense because my grandmother would have called a bunch of other people first.
26:16May said that my grandmother was down in the garage.
26:19I asked May to watch my daughter.
26:24I put her down.
26:25But as I was running out of the room, Rosa stepped out and hit me with a stun gun.
26:34Apparently it made a loud noise because it scared Jeff and they ran out and went over to the neighbor's
26:40house to call the police.
26:43May started hitting me with the baton.
26:45And Rosa was kicking me when I started seeing blood dripping down my face.
26:54That's when I realized this is definitely a live or die moment.
27:01I started fighting back, but then they knocked me over onto my back.
27:08May was choking me with the baton.
27:11And at this moment, Rosa came out of the room with the gun and pointed it at my chest and
27:20told me to stop fighting.
27:27At this point, I gave up.
27:39And, you know, they said, will you give up custody? And I said, yes.
27:44About this time is when I heard a siren outside.
27:51They would have killed me definitely if the cops hadn't shown up.
27:57In talking to Eric, everything was consistent.
28:01But it was very sad to have an individual recall these events.
28:06Of course, Eric was no longer being considered a suspect.
28:09So after his interview, we allowed him to leave.
28:15My phone rings.
28:17And it's Eric telling me they had found Sally's body.
28:21I could hardly take it in that this could actually happen.
28:25It was just a nightmare, a traumatic nightmare.
28:30And I had to take him over to the Division of Family Services so he could get the baby.
28:36It was a huge relief to finally see her again and be able to pick her up and hold her.
28:47At this point, Rosa and May are our prime suspects in this crime.
28:52Now, what we want to know is, why did they do this?
28:56Why did they have to kill Sally?
28:59Did she just get in the way? Was it on purpose?
29:01We need to continue to dig and find more evidence to tell what was really going on.
29:07At this point in the investigation, multiple things are happening.
29:10Detectives are interviewing Rosa, May, and Ping.
29:14Investigators are at the house conducting further analysis of the scene.
29:20And while doing another canvas of the area around Sally's residence, looking for anything or any evidence that may help
29:28in our case,
29:29we found an Acura Integra a block and a half away from our crime scene.
29:34A registration check of that vehicle came back to May Lee.
29:39And the keys to that Acura were found in Rosa's possession.
29:45That was definitely a vehicle of interest that we wanted to search further.
29:51Inside the Acura Integra, we found a hacksaw, we found a samurai sword, we found a crossbow, we found handcuffs,
30:00we found .22 caliber bullets.
30:02Finding all these just crazy pieces of evidence in vehicles and backpacks at the scene, this was not a spur
30:10of the moment crime.
30:11This was really planned out.
30:14Also, the coroner's office did an autopsy of Sally.
30:18Her cause of death was found to be strangulation.
30:21She was also found to have lacerations to the head and to the hand, consistent with being struck with a
30:28metal object.
30:29We believe metal, police, baton, as well as puncture wounds, which were able to associate to a taser.
30:39When we interview May, she immediately invokes her right to an attorney.
30:44So we don't question her any further.
30:47Ping just basically says that he had driven May to the scene and was waiting for May to resurface.
30:54Rosa still claimed that she was there with her mother, May, to confront him about child custody, have a conversation.
31:04Eric attacks her and her mother, and she is just merely trying to defend herself.
31:09But we share with Rosa that we're taking her into custody, that we're going to be taking her clothing, we're
31:15going to be taking her DNA, and no emotional response.
31:20May was also arrested for murder, and Ping Lee is arrested for accessory to murder.
31:28Based on the evidence that we have found throughout our investigation, this wasn't just a crime that just popped up
31:36and happened.
31:36This crime was planned out, but now we need to put all the pieces of the puzzle together to prove
31:44this case and tell the story of why it happened.
31:48We identify that Rosa lived at a residence in Fremont, and that May and Ping lived at a residence in
31:56Antioch.
31:57So we authored search warrants for all of the residents that they were associated with.
32:04But nothing significant is located at either location.
32:10The residence in Antioch, it was weird because it didn't look like anybody had lived in there, so we were
32:14a little puzzled by that.
32:16So I'm like, I'm going to check one of our databases to see if they have any previous residences that
32:20they might be staying at still.
32:22So I learned that there was a Brentwood address that we had no prior knowledge of.
32:28And I reached out to the U.S. Postal Inspector, and all three of them, Rosa, May, and Ping, were
32:34receiving mail at the Brentwood location.
32:37Get a search warrant for the Brentwood house, and that's where we just discover just a plethora of evidence.
32:46It was like a gold mine.
32:58We served the search warrant at the Brentwood residence, and as soon as we breached that door, it was a
33:05gold mine full of evidence.
33:08We found the boxes from the tasers. There were receipts to items that were found at the crime scene. There
33:17was a computer, and the computer was collected and taken to a forensic lab.
33:23To see what kind of searches were done, we found writings that were directly linked to Eric and to Sally.
33:32Some were up in the master bedroom, some were down in common areas like the kitchen.
33:37There was a list of troublemakers where Sally's name was listed, along with Eric's.
33:45There was one note of revenge for Rosa, which to me meant that revenge was going to be against Eric,
33:54the one that was taking custody away from Rosa.
33:59Another note that we found said crime equals desire, ability, and opportunity.
34:05We found notes where they were stalking Eric, what time he got home, what time he left, when he went
34:14somewhere.
34:15So they knew that they would encounter Sally, so they had to have a plan on how that was going
34:21to occur before they took out Eric.
34:26So after we conclude collecting all the evidence at the Brentwood address, we wanted more evidence to help bolster our
34:34case.
34:34We want to know where these weapons were obtained, who made those purchases, and when they were purchased.
34:41Tasers, they have serial numbers, so in contacting Taser about the one that was left at the crime scene, they
34:50informed us where the tasers were purchased, and we did some follow-up there with the individual who sold the
34:57taser.
34:58He described selling the two particular tasers to an older Asian female.
35:05The purchase occurred about two weeks or so before Sally's murder and the violent attack on Eric.
35:15And then in follow-up, we were able to determine that anybody who purchases a taser has to pay like
35:22an activation fee.
35:24So in looking up the associated serial numbers to the two tasers that were purchased, the credit card that was
35:31used belonged to May Lee.
35:34This solidifies that May was involved with this murder plan from the beginning.
35:43Next, these firearms, where did they come from?
35:46Looking at the serial numbers, we were able to determine that one of the firearms was purchased at a gun
35:53show in Nevada.
35:54We were able to make contact with the individual that sold it, and in talking to him, we found out
36:00that he remembered quite clearly the individuals that he sold his firearm to.
36:05And it was to two Asian females who he described as lucky if they were 100 pounds wet.
36:13Rosa and May went to the gun show in October, way before the crime actually occurred.
36:20And as we continue to investigate, we learned that Rosa went to Reno before that.
36:28We were able to identify a co-worker of hers that took a trip with her to Reno a couple
36:33months prior to the homicide.
36:36And she made some odd purchases at a sporting goods store, two samurai swords and a bow and arrow set.
36:46And we ended up finding those inside Rosa's car that was left on scene.
36:57And then we get the results from the forensic lab on the computer.
37:02And the first thing that just jumps off the paper is a Google search of how to murder.
37:15There were several other things that were found on that computer, confusion in elderly, medications that are used for the
37:23elderly,
37:24things that would really relate or show maybe what was planned to happen to Sally.
37:31Rose had developed a hatred of my grandmother because as I was starting to win in the courts,
37:40she assumed that my grandmother was paying for the attorney, which was not true.
37:45It was clear that they had put all the blame on Eric and Sally for the custody issues.
37:54And the contents of the backpack definitely, they spoke to what their mindset was.
38:00You could definitely call it a murder kit, a hostage kit.
38:06They brought that there with full intent to use on Sally and Eric.
38:13What are you doing?
38:23So in looking at the evidence recovered from the Brentwood residence, it is clear that this murder was premeditated.
38:33There was a letter found, which was titled Operation Custody.
38:37A plan to basically murder Sally and Eric.
38:43To gain full custody of Rosa and Eric's daughter.
38:50The plan began in fall of 2008 when Rosa becomes obsessed with gaining full custody of her daughter and will
38:59do anything to make it happen.
39:00She and her mother May named their plot Operation Custody.
39:05Over the following months, they look at ways to commit and get away with murder.
39:10First, they researched deadly substances, including arsenic, cyanide, strychnine, mustard gas and ammonia.
39:17After deciding against poisons or toxins, the pair began amassing an alarming cache of weapons from guns and tasers to
39:26a samurai sword and crossbow.
39:28They then assemble their kill kit and decide to execute their plan.
39:33On the day of the murder, they drive to my house, planning to murder Sally and me.
39:39Once inside the residence, Rosa may beat and strangle Sally to death, stuff her body into a garbage can and
39:46lie in wait for Eric to come home.
39:49When Eric arrived at home, they ambush him and begin using the baton and tasers.
39:55And after all that, they plan to kill Eric.
39:58Which they thought would result in Rosa being granted full custody.
40:08This plan was so intricate and it all fell apart because Lester really cared about my grandmother.
40:15If he wouldn't have called Jeff Annuda and if they hadn't shown up and called the cops,
40:21May and Rosa would have gotten away with it.
40:24I definitely feel like I've been blessed on that front.
40:31Two years later, in 2011, May and Rosa stood trial for the murder of Sally Hill and attempted murder of
40:42Eric Hill.
40:44They were convicted.
40:46An Antioch woman and her mother were convicted today in the killing of a 91-year-old great-grandmother.
40:52Selma Hill's body was found stuffed into a garbage can.
41:05The callousness behind this plan was something that I've never seen in my now 30-year career.
41:15When it comes to people getting divorced or child custody issues, people lose their mind.
41:22But for a family to be involved in the actual execution of a murder plan is unique.
41:44I have to say that as bad as this experience was, my daughter's done well, great kid who's been my
41:54best friend.
41:55She's been able to have a better relationship with my side of the family, which I don't know if she
42:00ever would have had this not happened.
42:04I just try to focus on the good.
42:18I have great memories of my mom, wonderful memories.
42:22I love my mom's smile. I love my mom's heart. She was always empathizing with me and everybody else.
42:32Pull it all together. She was amazing.
42:37I was lucky. I was lucky. Very lucky.
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