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03:07political parties
03:09with massive support
03:11from the, among
03:13the Iranian Kurds and a very
03:15popular position among
03:17the Iranians all together.
03:19So we are,
03:20we will be, we will
03:23be ready to
03:25go back to our country.
03:27Do you still have faith in the U.S.
03:29administration that they can achieve
03:31those strategic goals that they laid out at the beginning,
03:33which was a sort of regime change
03:35away from the hardliners
03:37and to destroy the nuclear threat?
03:39If they weaken the regime
03:41enough, if they
03:43crush the security
03:45forces, the military
03:47industrial base, not the civilian
03:49infrastructure, of course,
03:51we're not for that.
03:53But if they hit the
03:55Pasta and the Revolutionary Guards enough,
03:58then there may be
03:59it can help
04:01the Iranian people to rise at some point.
04:04In fact, this was
04:05started 47 years ago
04:07by the Iranian regime.
04:09They confiscated the
04:11storm, the American embassy
04:13in Tehran.
04:15They started
04:16terrorist activities
04:18all over the
04:19region, in the Middle East.
04:22They massacred their
04:23own people.
04:24They destabilized
04:26the whole region.
04:27So they
04:29threatened
04:31Israel to
04:34annihilate Israel.
04:36They wanted
04:36death to America.
04:38It's 47 years
04:40that they are shouting
04:41death to America.
04:42In fact,
04:43I'm not surprised
04:44that the war is happening
04:46because I expected it to happen
04:48even decades ago.
04:50To be very specific,
04:52the Israelis did say
04:53they wanted to create
04:54the conditions on the ground
04:55for that to happen.
04:56The leadership obviously
04:57belongs to the Iranian people,
04:59but the U.S.
05:00did say that they
05:01could not work with the Ayatollah
05:02and, in fact,
05:02his debt.
05:03They also say the
05:04Ayatollah Jr.,
05:06that's how the Trump
05:06administration
05:07refers to the sun,
05:09is an unacceptable choice.
05:10and they also say
05:11they're in talks
05:12with more reasonable people.
05:14So from the outside,
05:15it does look like
05:16a form of regime change.
05:18And I wonder,
05:19who are reasonable people
05:20for you?
05:20Do you have any names
05:21in hand?
05:22No,
05:23I do not believe
05:24any figure
05:27in the existing
05:30Islamic Republic of Iran
05:31to be trustworthy.
05:33No one,
05:34not even the head
05:35of the parliament,
05:35none of them.
05:36You say that
05:36that will not work?
05:38Of course not.
05:39No, no,
05:40there are butchers
05:41of Iranian people.
05:42They killed
05:43more than a month ago.
05:45In January,
05:46they killed 32,000 people
05:48in 48 hours.
05:50They are butchers
05:51of the Iranian people.
05:53They are criminals.
05:54They are a bunch
05:54of criminals.
05:55We do not trust
05:57any of them.
05:58For us Iranian people,
06:00including Kurdish people,
06:01we are for a democratic,
06:03secular Iran,
06:04an Iran that
06:07respects the rights
06:08of Kurds
06:09and other nationalities
06:10and that respects democracy,
06:13that respects human rights,
06:15that respects international law.
06:17None of these figures
06:19in Iranian regime,
06:20existing regime,
06:21can achieve that,
06:23can be even near
06:24to that code.
06:25So then I wonder
06:26if it's not from people
06:27already in Tehran
06:28because they do not work
06:29for you
06:29and you say
06:30will not lead
06:30to a democratic,
06:31secular Iran,
06:32what about the opposition?
06:34Who is acceptable
06:34in the opposition?
06:35Because we are not seeing
06:37opposition externally
06:38and there are no protests
06:39in Iran.
06:40That's not happening either.
06:42There are
06:43credible
06:45oppositions
06:45inside and outside
06:47the country.
06:48Kurds are one of them.
06:49in fact,
06:50one of the main
06:51opposition forces
06:53for the past
06:5447 years.
06:55We started,
06:56we were against
06:57this regime.
06:58We did not accept
06:59the Islamic regime
07:01of Iran
07:01from the outset
07:04and we are still
07:06fighting for our rights
07:07and for democracy
07:08in Iran.
07:09There are also
07:09Baluchis,
07:10there are also
07:11Azerbaijanis,
07:12Arabs,
07:13Persian people.
07:14People started
07:16protest movements
07:17many,
07:18many times
07:19in the past
07:19decades.
07:20So the Iranian
07:22regime has lost
07:23all vestiges
07:24of credibility
07:26and legitimacy.
07:28What role do you see
07:29for the Europeans?
07:30Are you satisfied
07:31with the messaging
07:32coming out of Europe
07:33in a way they talk
07:34about de-escalating,
07:36going back to diplomacy
07:37and at some point
07:37helping out to
07:39open the Strait of Hormuz
07:40but not in the hot
07:41phase of the war?
07:42Is that a message
07:42that you can abide to?
07:45Europeans have pursued
07:46the policy
07:47of appeasement
07:48for decades now
07:49towards Iran
07:49and it's a bankrupt
07:51policy.
07:52Iran is a menace
07:53not only for the
07:54United States,
07:55not only for Israel,
07:56not only for Arab
07:57countries in the region.
07:58It is a menace.
08:00It is a terrorist
08:01threat against Europeans
08:03as well.
08:04They should be
08:05more decisive.
08:06They should be
08:07more clear.
08:09They should join
08:10the United States
08:11in its effort
08:13to curb
08:14the Iranian influence
08:15and put an end
08:17to a regime
08:19that is a menace,
08:21a threat
08:21to its own people,
08:23to the region
08:24and to the West.
08:25They are anti-American,
08:27they are anti-West,
08:28they are anti-everybody
08:29in the region.
08:30So just so I understand,
08:32what you're saying
08:32is they should
08:33fight this war
08:34directly?
08:34They should engage
08:35militarily?
08:36I'm not deciding
08:37for them,
08:38but they should
08:38put pressure
08:40on Iran.
08:41They shouldn't
08:42go for
08:43de-escalation
08:45with a regime
08:46that is
08:47a threat
08:48to everybody
08:49and to
08:49the international
08:50community.
08:52They should
08:52join,
08:54if not militarily,
08:55at least politically
08:57and economically,
08:59they should
08:59join force
09:00to put an end
09:02to this regime
09:03and help
09:04the Iranian people.
09:05That's what we expect
09:05the Europeans to do.
09:07So in that sense,
09:08when President Trump
09:08is critical
09:09of the Europeans
09:10and he says
09:10they're not helping
09:11enough,
09:12is he right?
09:13I'm speaking
09:14from the standpoint
09:15of the Iranian
09:16and the Kurdish people
09:17in Iran.
09:18We expect
09:19the Europeans
09:20to help
09:20the Iranian people,
09:22to help
09:22the Kurdish people,
09:24to help
09:24women,
09:26ethnic groups,
09:27religious minorities,
09:28everybody else.
09:29We are under pressure
09:30by,
09:30we have been
09:31under pressure
09:32and repression
09:33by the Iranian
09:34regime for decades
09:35now.
09:36Where are Europeans?
09:37Where are
09:38the human rights
09:41articles?
09:42They should
09:43have been
09:43more active,
09:44more pro-democracy
09:47in Iran,
09:48more pro-people
09:49and less
09:49they should
09:51de-
09:52decouple
09:53with Iran.
09:54They should
09:54put an end
09:55to the
09:57appeasement
09:57policy of
09:58appeasement.
09:59Yes.
09:59So when you
10:00look at
10:01countries like
10:02Spain,
10:02I'm just wondering,
10:03the Spanish
10:03Prime Minister,
10:04what does that
10:05evoke to you?
10:06Because he said
10:06this war is illegal.
10:07Europe cannot
10:08join because
10:08this war is
10:09illegal.
10:10Is massacre
10:11legal?
10:12Is terrorism
10:13legal?
10:15The Iranian
10:16regime boasted
10:17a couple of
10:17years ago
10:18that they
10:18controlled
10:19five capitals
10:20in the region.
10:23and
10:24they
10:25have
10:27organized
10:27and
10:28financed
10:29and
10:30armed
10:30many
10:31proxies,
10:32terrorist groups
10:33in the whole
10:34Middle East.
10:35They are
10:35trying to
10:36annihilate
10:37Israel.
10:38They are
10:38trying to
10:39expel the
10:40United States
10:41and the West
10:41from the
10:42region.
10:43They are
10:43reshaping
10:44the region
10:45according
10:46according to
10:47their
10:48adventurous
10:49illusions.
10:52So it's
10:53time for
10:54the Europeans
10:55to put an
10:56end to this
10:57policy of
10:58appeasement
10:59and take
11:00a more
11:01active
11:02pro-Iranian
11:03anti-regime
11:04policy.
11:06Let me
11:06ask you
11:07just as a
11:07final
11:07question.
11:08The other
11:08big regional
11:09power of
11:10course is
11:10Turkey.
11:11Have you
11:12had any
11:12communications
11:13with
11:14President Erdogan?
11:15Of course
11:15there's also
11:15been multiple
11:17reports that
11:17he does not
11:18want to see
11:18this war
11:19escalate
11:19and that
11:20he also
11:20doesn't
11:20really see
11:21a role
11:21for you.
11:22Are you
11:22having any
11:22direct
11:23communications
11:23or if
11:24not
11:24back-channel
11:24dialogue
11:25with the
11:25Turkish?
11:27We've
11:27been trying
11:28to assure
11:29Turkey
11:29that we
11:29have no
11:30bad
11:30intentions
11:31against
11:31Turkey.
11:31We can
11:32be friends.
11:33We can
11:33be good
11:34neighbors
11:34both in
11:35Iran and
11:36in Iranian
11:37Kurdistan
11:38with Turkey.
11:39So we
11:39are doing
11:40no harm
11:40to them.
11:41There is
11:42no reason
11:42for them
11:43to be
11:44concerned
11:44about
11:45our
11:46intentions
11:46and our
11:47policies
11:47in Iranian
11:48Kurdistan.
11:49On that
11:49note,
11:50thank you
11:50so much
11:51for joining
11:51us on
11:52Euronews.
11:52Good to
11:53see you
11:53and thanks
11:54for your
11:54time.
11:55Thank
11:55you.
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