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00:00El gobierno de Israel ha estado en contacto conmigo para escoger Durandar en Israel.
00:04No way!
00:05Durandar primero, que se convirtió el mayor box office de todo el tiempo.
00:09Y ahora, Durandar segundo, que se convirtió en menos de tres días, 400 CR.
00:16Uri es donde Aditya Darra se empezó a la fama.
00:20Aunque tenía 20 años de trabajo de trabajo detrás de él,
00:24también había este slojón en el que, ¿cómo es el josh?
00:28¡Hi, sir!
00:30¡Hi, sir!
00:31¡Hi, sir!
00:31That became like a national anthem all across India.
00:34He himself is so involved, you know, he's so involved, he's involved to the level of dialogues.
00:38Right.
00:39He writes dialogues, he writes lyrics, he writes screenplay, he directs,
00:44he knows the cinematography of this entire thing.
00:46So he has this passion which drives him.
00:50That is the most amazing part about him and he's so down to earth.
00:52What Aditya has done, he has brought in a paradigm shift in Indian cinema.
00:57You know, after COVID, after the pandemic, people had stopped going to cinema halls.
01:02You know, they were consuming entertainment content from Netflix, from Amazon, from Hotstar, Jio, etc.
01:07But now people are willing to go, people are actually willing to go twice, thrice to watch the same film.
01:14But at what stage were you brought in and how do you assure the accuracy and the authenticity of the
01:20movie is inspired by true events, right?
01:23So how do you ensure all of that?
01:25So that's my job.
01:26We were brought in just when the concept came in and the research was underway to deeply study, you know,
01:32what all has happened over the years.
01:34Be it terrorism emanating from Pakistan, terror groups working in Pakistan, gangs operating from Karachi,
01:40how there might be some foreign countries trying to infiltrate that particular gang and, you know, taking revenge.
01:46For me, I have been a victim of terrorism from Jammu and Kashmir.
01:50So that's one part of it.
01:51Aditya has been a victim of terrorism.
01:52He's a Kashmiri Pandit as well.
01:54So he has faced it.
01:55He has seen it from his own eyes.
01:57And secondly, now over the last 18 years, I have reported on terrorism.
02:00I have reported from Kashmir.
02:02I have reported on Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc.
02:05So I've studied it in greater detail.
02:07I am a patriotic Indian.
02:08If I have a problem, I will question the government.
02:10During the pandemic, you know, I raised a lot of questions against the government that this should have happened this
02:15way.
02:15And, you know, these were the problems that government did not consider, etc.
02:18In a democracy, you have a right to question the government.
02:22After Pulwama, we had Balakot.
02:23Before that, we had the Uri terror attack.
02:26And then we had a counter in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, a surgical strike.
02:29And most recently, Operation Sindhuru.
02:32Phenomenal.
02:32You know, what has happened also?
02:34People also say, you know, we are losing information war and this and that.
02:37I don't believe that.
02:38I think we are very well settled.
02:40What message we had to convey in preemptive strikes or whatever limited strikes we did, I think it was phenomenal.
02:47Militarily speaking, diplomatically speaking, and politically speaking.
02:51My only response to those people who attacked Duranthar is that look at the public reaction.
03:02If you cannot sense the pulse of the people, then God help you.
03:06Somebody in Pakistan decided to run a disinformation campaign against me.
03:11So there was a Pakistani website that did a story saying that Aditya Rajkowal, an Indian journalist, has leaked the
03:17location of Netanyahu.
03:18And Iran has done a strike on Netanyahu and Netanyahu has been killed.
03:26Today, we meet the man who made sure Duranthar got it right.
03:30So today, we are with one of the research consultants for Duranthar and Duranthar the Revenge.
03:36And he also happens to be the senior executive editor at MDTV.
03:41The one and only Aditya Rajkowal, my Kashmiri Pandit brother.
03:46And he's also a returning guest who is currently in Israel.
03:49How are you feeling today?
03:50Well, thanks, Revital. Always a pleasure to interact with you.
03:53And I'm feeling great. This is my fifth visit to Israel.
03:57And although I'm missing all the action of Duranthar back home, but hopefully I'll be back home soon and I'll
04:03catch up on it.
04:04Well, congratulations. I have to be honest, I'm late at the party.
04:07I only watched part one yesterday.
04:09I wasn't mentally ready just to give people context.
04:12I was here when October 7th happened and it feels very close to home when it happened.
04:17And whatever terrorist attacks have happened on India, because I'm born and raised in India and then I moved to
04:22Israel.
04:22So I wasn't mentally prepared. But then yesterday I was like, you know what?
04:26This is my chance. I need to watch it.
04:28I watched it. And today I'm sitting with you having a conversation just stuck in Israel.
04:32But let's talk about Duranthar for a second.
04:34What does it mean to be a research consultant?
04:37It seems like you do research and then tell the director what to do and that's it.
04:44Can you get deep into it and tell us what exactly have you done?
04:47You know, firstly, I'll acknowledge that the entire vision, the entire project, the entire baby of Duranthar is completely credit
04:55to Adityadhar.
04:56I mean, he's been a friend for a very long time.
04:58The moment that he made Uri, you know, I was in Bombay, I remember many, many years ago, I was
05:03driving, I was working on a story when he called me out of the blue and he asked me if,
05:08you know, I could help him get in touch with the Indian Army.
05:11And he was working on some film. He didn't give any more details, but he said it's on Indian Army.
05:15So I just shared a contact with him. That's about it. And connected him with the Indian Army.
05:19And a year later, he texted me and said that I've made something and I hope you will love it.
05:25And that film was Uri that came out.
05:28And then at the Army Chief's residence, he introduced me to the entire star cast of the film.
05:33And that was amazing. Uri did a huge magic in the industry.
05:37And I think, you know, there was this slogan also in that, how's the Josh? Hi, sir.
05:43How's the Josh? Hi, sir.
05:45How's the Josh? Hi, sir.
05:46That became like a national anthem all across India.
05:49So Uri is where, you know, Aditya Dhar's, you know, claim to fame began, although he had 20 years of
05:56hard work behind him.
05:57And soon after, he worked on Article 370.
06:00So he took me as a consultant for Article 370 because, you know, when the Article 370 abrogation happened,
06:05I was advising the government on, you know, how things are in Kashmir and what needs to be done.
06:10So, yeah. So then I made a documentary in 22, March 22.
06:14In fact, I'll just briefly tell you, I got a call from my source in India.
06:17And then I corroborated it in Pakistan, saying that a person called Zahur Mistri has been f***ed.
06:22In fact, the name given to me was not Zahur Mistri, but something else that he used.
06:26And they told me that this person has been killed in Karachi.
06:29So why don't you check? This might be interesting for you.
06:32And it took me two to three days to verify it because I called my journalist friends in Pakistan,
06:37who later confirmed to me that a person called Zahur Mistri had been f***ed.
06:41But they were not sure who he is because the administration in Pakistan, which is the army,
06:47had asked them not to cover this, not to report this.
06:50Although I found one news link.
06:52Do you know why?
06:52Well, everybody knows why.
06:54Because the media in Pakistan is, you know, controlled in a massive manner.
06:58And they're not, if there is something aligned with the army or the ISI, they're not asked to report that.
07:04I see.
07:05So I checked again.
07:06And then I found out to my shock that Zahur Mistri was one of the hijackers of IC 814,
07:11which happened 25 years ago.
07:13And in which one Indian person was f***ed.
07:15The flight was taken from Kathmandu to Amritsar to Dubai to finally Kandahar.
07:19And after days of stalemate, and NSA Ajit Doval was one of the negotiators at that time,
07:25we had to release three terrorists, three dreaded terrorists.
07:28One of them was Masood Azhar.
07:30And Masood Azhar later formed the Jaisar Mohamed in a place called Balakot,
07:34which also we struck, our Indian Air Force struck a few years ago after Pulwama.
07:39And all these three terrorists became a huge, huge challenge for India and for entire South Asia
07:44because you'd remember Daniel Pearl, a Jewish journalist, was also f***ed brutally.
07:50His video of his was, you know, released by a terrorist called Omar.
07:56And that Omar terrorist was also released by India at that time because of the negotiation.
08:00So Mushtaq Latram, Omar and Masood Azhar became a huge challenge for India during that time.
08:05And Zahur Mistri was one of the terrorists, one of the youngest ones who was in that aircraft at that
08:09time.
08:09And we obviously couldn't catch him.
08:11But years later, and I often say this, that NSA Ajit Doval at that time would be perhaps in his
08:1750s or something like that.
08:20And something would have, I've obviously had a lot of conversations with him.
08:23But I wonder, he would have been thinking that if I had 24 hours more or if I had 48
08:28hours more,
08:29I would have done something to protect Indian citizens and also not let these three terrorists get released.
08:35Because these three terrorists became the reason for the biggest terror attacks in India,
08:39be it the parliament terror attack, which happened, be it the JMT Assembly attack, be it Pulwama, be it Pathan
08:46Court.
08:47You know, different terror attacks that have happened in the last two decades were thanks to these dreaded Pakistani terrorists.
08:53So I made a documentary on Zahur Mistri when I came to know that he's a, you know, the person
08:57who was f***ed.
08:58And across the media, whoever I spoke to in Pakistan said they were unknown gunmen.
09:03Nobody knows who killed them.
09:04Two people came on a bike, this guy took a photograph of his dead body and just left.
09:09So I had a photograph of the dead body that I'd got from a source and I had his old
09:14photograph.
09:15We corroborated that, there was a scientific, you know, test etc. done.
09:18And we found out that that guy who was killed was Zahur Mistri and he was working as a furniture
09:23shop owner, as a carpenter.
09:25So he basically went back to his civilian life.
09:29Exactly.
09:29So Pakistan Army, the ISI, had given him a cover of working as a furniture, you know, shop owner in
09:35Karachi.
09:36And so I made that documentary and that documentary was like an investigation done from India and Pakistan, what happened,
09:43how it happened.
09:45And Aditya saw that documentary and my breaking news because a lot of Indian media, you know, quoted me when
09:51they covered this story.
09:52And he said, boss, we need to do this.
09:55We need to make this.
09:55This is one of the finest things that have happened and people don't know about it.
10:00There's a lot of mystery around it.
10:01Right.
10:01So we decided that why not make this film?
10:05And he was already working on something, on a spy thriller, etc.
10:08Okay.
10:08And he was studying it at a massive scale.
10:11So he has a team, but he himself is so involved.
10:14You know, he's so involved, he's involved to the level of dialogues.
10:16Right.
10:17He writes dialogues.
10:18He writes lyrics.
10:20He writes screenplay.
10:21He directs.
10:22He knows the cinematography of this entire thing.
10:24So he has this passion which drives him.
10:28That is the most amazing part about him.
10:30And he's so down to earth.
10:31So that's how this project began more than three years ago.
10:34And here we are, Durandar first, which became the highest box office of all time.
10:39And now Durandar second, which is in less than three days, 400 CR, which is unthinkable in Indian cinema.
10:47And what I will say, Revital, is that what Aditya has done has, he has brought in a paradigm shift
10:54in Indian cinema.
10:55You know, after COVID, after the pandemic, people had stopped going to cinema halls.
11:00You know, they were consuming entertainment content from Netflix, from Amazon, from Hotstar, Jio, etc.
11:05But now people are willing to go.
11:08People are actually willing to go twice, thrice to watch the same film.
11:12And mind you, the first film was three and a half hours long.
11:15Correct.
11:16This one is four hours long, which is unthinkable perhaps in Hollywood.
11:19Yeah.
11:20But here people are willing to watch it.
11:22Now, it's not just about nationalistic content, etc.
11:24That some people might be uncomfortable with.
11:27Correct.
11:27This is reality.
11:28This is a mystery that has been shrouded in four years together, which we are trying to unravel.
11:33Fiction, yes, but inspired by real events.
11:36I heard, I read a lot of news, seeing a lot of people from the Gulf actually flying into India
11:40to watch the movie.
11:41Absolutely.
11:42I have friends.
11:42I have friends who were so frustrated that across the GCC countries, across UAE, you know, across the Gulf, West
11:49Asia, we unfortunately didn't have this film getting released.
11:53I don't know why.
11:54But some people tell me that, you know, the content is against Pakistan.
11:57So it might lead to some diplomatic problems between these countries and Pakistan.
12:01So they avoid it.
12:02I see.
12:02They're not against the film as such, but they just want to avoid the controversy.
12:06I see.
12:07Yeah.
12:07I see.
12:08At what stage of filmmaking were you brought in?
12:10And was it like pre-production?
12:11Was it still like in the research stage?
12:13Because I know there's a lot of, I personally loved the movie.
12:17Like it was, I was at the edge of the seat and I'm like, oh my gosh, like I'm in
12:20Israel.
12:20So the second part has not been released yet in theaters, of course, as a warrior or there's, it's not
12:26on Netflix yet because it released like three days ago.
12:28But at what stage were you brought in and how do you assure the accuracy and the authenticity of, because
12:35the movie is inspired by true events, right?
12:38So how do you ensure all of that?
12:39So that's my job.
12:40My job and there was another, you know, research consultant with me.
12:45That was our job.
12:46So we were brought in just when the concept came in and the research was underway to deeply study, you
12:52know, what all has happened over the years, be it terrorism emanating from Pakistan, terror groups working in Pakistan, gangs
12:58operating from Karachi, how there might be some foreign countries trying to infiltrate that particular gang and, you know, taking
13:06revenge.
13:06And apart from that counterfeit currency events that have happened, like a criminal gangster, like Adik Ahmed, who was demonetization
13:14that happened and a lot of attacks in the last three decades that have happened.
13:18Now, for me, I've been a victim of terrorism from Jammu and Kashmir.
13:21So that's one part of it.
13:23Aditya has been a victim of terrorism.
13:24He's a Kashmiri Pandit as well.
13:25So he has faced it.
13:27He has seen it from his own eyes.
13:28And secondly, now, over the last 18 years, I have reported on terrorism.
13:32I have reported from Kashmir.
13:34I have reported on Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc.
13:36So I've studied it in greater detail, you know, from attacks from Pulwama to Uri to the latest Pathan court.
13:44I studied this.
13:45I was, in fact, the first journalist to not just break a Pahldam terror attack, but also break the Operation
13:51Sindhur that happened midnight, you know, during 6th and 7th May last year.
13:55So we have to obviously study in detail, refer to official sources to verify if this had happened, if primarily
14:03I was, you know, in touch with some primary sources, etc., to verify what happened, etc., to go through media
14:09clippings of years together, to study, to study videos, etc., reportage that has happened 25 years ago.
14:15And during that time, there were not many news channels.
14:18I was going to say, yeah.
14:19So it is difficult, but we ensured that and perhaps to get in touch with some sources, you know, within
14:26the agencies and within the corridors that cannot be named.
14:29Right.
14:30That I've been doing.
14:31I cover intelligence agencies very closely.
14:33I cover security agencies, army, paramilitary very, very closely.
14:36So that helps immensely.
14:38And that helped during Operation Sindhur as well, you know, drifting away from Durandar for a bit.
14:42But, you know, at that time, I was continuously tweeting 24-7 and I got more than 3 lakh followers
14:48during that 10 or 15 days only because people trusted me and people thought that I am an authentic source.
14:54So I was not doing jingoism for India, etc.
14:56But I was reporting facts about terrorism and how India is responding on it.
15:00So for all the young Indians who want to be aspiring, could be senior executive editors or an authentic source
15:08of such information, because it's crucial, right?
15:11Because some people say, oh, like this is propaganda.
15:15We'll come to that.
15:16But what would you say to aspiring people who want to work for India in this capacity?
15:22What would you like to tell them?
15:23Not much.
15:24I mean, it doesn't take any rocket science or a PhD degree from Harvard to, you know, make up your
15:31mind.
15:32You need to be passionate and you need to have courage of having a conviction.
15:36If you have that conviction in life, if you're passionate, if you have that determination, you can make it happen.
15:43I think passion does it all, honestly.
15:45If you have your mind, you know, on anything, it's not about journalism.
15:49It's not about war reportage or conflict.
15:51It's about Aditya Dar as well.
15:53I mean, look at him.
15:54I mean, he's not from Bollywood families.
15:57He has come from Delhi.
15:59He has struggled hard for years together.
16:01And on his own merit and hard work, he has achieved what he is achieving today.
16:04And I still hear murmurs, you know, during the first phase, there was a particular faction within the Bollywood, which
16:11was really upset and outraged that, why are we not involved?
16:14Why is this not from a big production house, etc, etc?
16:17And people were not supporting him.
16:20And people were silent.
16:21So that's how Bollywood is.
16:22There is a syndicate that works, not just in Bollywood, but overall, there's an ecosystem.
16:27Right.
16:27There's an eco-chamber as well.
16:28So what they do is that, you know, oh, this is an outsider.
16:31So we will not support him.
16:33Let him do what he wants to.
16:34And he has done it.
16:35He has proven his mettle.
16:36So that's what I will tell people that, you know, I am a patriotic Indian.
16:39If I have a problem, I will question the government.
16:41During the pandemic, you know, I raised a lot of questions against the government that this should have happened this
16:46way.
16:46Right.
16:46And, you know, these were the problems that government did not consider, etc.
16:49In a democracy, you have a right to question the government.
16:52Absolutely.
16:53But you also have a right to praise or provide things factually if they have happened, just as we are
17:00doing in Durandha.
17:00If there is a concern of Pakistan-sponsored Islamist terrorism, we will raise concern.
17:05Now, there was a panelist recently, we had a debate on it, a lady actor from Mumbai who said that,
17:11no, you know, you're trying to show brutality and violence and I can't say violence.
17:16So don't watch it.
17:17I mean, you are in a free country.
17:19We're not forcing you to watch it.
17:20Don't watch the film.
17:21Now, this brutality is not brutality done by India.
17:24This is not a human rights violation done by India.
17:27This is Pakistan-sponsored terrorism for last four decades in Jammu, in Kashmir and the rest of India that we
17:34are highlighting.
17:34These are well-documented terror attacks and these are well-documented operations done by India continuously over the years.
17:41After Pulwama, we had Balakot.
17:43Before that, we had the Uri terror attack.
17:45And then we had a counter in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, a surgical strike.
17:49And most recently, Operation Sindhuru.
17:51Phenomenal.
17:52You know, what has happened also?
17:53People also say, you know, we are losing information war and this and that.
17:56I don't believe that.
17:57I think we are very well settled.
18:00What message we had to convey in preemptive strikes or whatever limited strikes we did, I think it was phenomenal.
18:07Militarily speaking, diplomatically speaking and politically speaking.
18:10You know, when surgical strikes happened and when Balakot happened, people said,
18:14Where is the video?
18:15Why don't you have video?
18:16They wanted army persons to, you know, carry guns and videos to actually show them all.
18:21And this time around, when Operation Sindhur happened, what changed, Rabadal?
18:26The one thing that changed was that we were striking deep inside Pakistan, deep inside Punjab of Pakistan,
18:33or in the backyard of Asim Munir, the Pakistan army chief.
18:36And Pakistanis were clicking videos and showing it to the entire world.
18:40It was not the army.
18:41It was not the air force.
18:42It was not the military of India.
18:44It was common people in Pakistan, in Rawalpindi, in Lahore, in Karachi, in Islamabad,
18:49shooting videos and saying, we are scared.
18:51India is shooting at us.
18:52Oh my God, what will happen?
18:54Allah, save us.
18:58These were the kind of videos that were coming out.
19:00Now, can Pakistan now say, this is propaganda?
19:03This is disinformation?
19:04This is the reality for the first time, authenticated by the common people,
19:08saying that Operation Sindhur has been not just successful, but we have been decimated.
19:13Pakistan has been decimated completely.
19:15So they've got a strong response.
19:16But also, lastly, Pakistan won't change.
19:19You know, we might make Durandar, Durandar 2, Durandar 3, Durandar 4,
19:22but Pakistan is not going to change.
19:24We might do Operation Sindhur and Operation Sindhur 2.
19:27But the reality is, in their DNA,
19:30their entire existence of their foreign policy or domestic policy is on India.
19:34If they don't attack India, if the army does not focus on India,
19:38nobody will say that they are relevant.
19:40They will not get the same respect.
19:42If you do a survey of the Pakistan army before and after Pahalgaam terror attack,
19:47you will see they were losing respect,
19:49they were losing national consensus completely before Pahalgaam.
19:52Once Pahalgaam happened, they again united the nation.
19:55So, Pakistan army does this deliberately.
19:58Whenever in their backyard in Palochistan, Khaybat, Pakhtunwa,
20:00there are attacks happening, people are rebelling for freedom
20:03from the Pakistani occupation,
20:05they try to do a Pahalgaam or a Pulwama
20:07to completely shift international focus towards Kashmir.
20:10I honestly feel like India and Israel both.
20:13I'm talking from both aspects because I'm an Indian Jew again,
20:17born and raised in India and now living in Israel.
20:19What I see between both countries is that we are now on offense.
20:23I think we should do more offense than defense
20:25because I think we, both Indians and Israelis,
20:27are sick of being attacked and constantly thinking
20:30that we are going to lose the information war.
20:32But it is about survival now.
20:34And if we don't do anything right now,
20:35it is eventually going to be very bad for both countries.
20:40So, I strongly support the attacks of India on Pakistan
20:46and all the terrorists.
20:47I mean, we need to take revenge.
20:49I also, I loved, you said there were two popular lines
20:52from the movie that I really liked.
20:53You mentioned one from Ori.
20:54But the two lines that I liked from Durandar,
20:57one was,
21:01And the second one was,
21:12Indians have been the most accommodative,
21:15but there have been instances that people have walked all over India.
21:20What would you like to say to people who say this is a propaganda movie?
21:23You know, first, before I come to the propaganda part,
21:26since you mentioned Israel,
21:28you know, one thing that I absolutely love about your country, Israel,
21:31is that whenever there is a terror attack,
21:34whenever there is a question being raised on the sovereignty
21:37or the territorial integrity of Israel,
21:40there is natural unity.
21:41You know, there is no opposition leader coming and saying,
21:44what is this?
21:45What is the government doing?
21:46This is nonsense.
21:48Show us evidence.
21:49This is not done, you know, in like, you know, in India.
21:53We see that repeatedly.
21:54Now, again, I'll emphasize,
21:56the right of the opposition is to criticize,
21:59question the government,
22:00take them to task.
22:01Absolutely should be done.
22:02Like Lepid does here, Netanyahu.
22:05And Rahul Gandhi tries to do it,
22:06you know, with Prime Minister Modi.
22:08But the question is,
22:09whenever there is a terror attack,
22:10there needs to be national unity.
22:12You know, whenever there is a terror attack,
22:14against innocent Indians,
22:16there have to be all political parties aligned
22:18and stand together.
22:20Now, I met Lepid at one of the kibbutz
22:22when I went to Northern Israel.
22:23And I asked him that,
22:24what do you feel about the,
22:25you know, the war with Iran?
22:27And, you know,
22:27this was quite recently.
22:29Just a few days back.
22:29Okay.
22:30And what do you think about,
22:31because we were just 1.5 kilometers away
22:33from the Northern border
22:34and we could hear gunfire.
22:36So, he said,
22:36absolutely, I support the government
22:38and we have to completely
22:41annihilate Hezbollah on Lebanon
22:43and the Iranian regime in his words.
22:46So, that is the thing that I absolutely love,
22:50that whenever your state is under attack
22:54and there is a terror attack
22:55and when people say that
22:57our mission is to annihilate the Jews
22:59and from river to the sea,
23:01Palestine will be free.
23:03And they don't realize
23:04that you are not
23:06looking for a political solution.
23:08You are not looking for a dialogue
23:09where a political solution
23:11can be arrived at.
23:11You are instead saying that
23:12we will kill the last of the Jews
23:14and we will completely wipe you out
23:17and then we will create our own territory.
23:19Now, what is happening with Pakistan?
23:21Pakistan is doing the same.
23:22Before Pahal Gan,
23:23there was a video of Asim Munir
23:25that went viral
23:25where he said,
23:26these are Hindus
23:27who are attacking us.
23:29These are Hindus
23:30and we have to lead a jihad
23:32against these Hindus.
23:34This is the kind of terminology
23:35that came in.
23:36Now, their focus,
23:38look at the location of Israel.
23:40You know,
23:40they are surrounded by Islamic countries
23:42but they have great ties
23:43with many of them,
23:44UAE, Saudi,
23:45in many other countries as well.
23:48In fact, I have heard
23:49that after the recent attacks,
23:51now, governments may deny this
23:52but I will tell you,
23:53I have heard
23:54that when UAE came under attack
23:56and they did not have
23:58any alarm systems, etc.,
23:59they were in a crisis mode
24:00and perhaps the rulers
24:02in UAE
24:02would have never,
24:03even in their imagination
24:04or dreams,
24:05thought that this will happen someday.
24:07And they reached out to Israel
24:09for the emergency mechanism support.
24:12The alerts.
24:13How the alerts could be done
24:14and what kind of alerts,
24:16how and when
24:17could it happen.
24:18Really?
24:19I've heard that.
24:20UAE government
24:21or the Israel government
24:22can confirm that
24:23but that's what I've heard.
24:24And if that kind of an alignment
24:26is happening right now,
24:28that clearly means
24:29that Abraham Accords
24:30have, you know,
24:31gone too far
24:32in a positive direction
24:33and perhaps
24:34after the war is over,
24:36there could be
24:36an alignment with Saudi
24:37and several other countries
24:38because what Iran
24:39has also done,
24:40you know,
24:40I'll say that,
24:41you know,
24:41India has great ties
24:42with Iran and Israel
24:43and that will continue.
24:45And we have condemned
24:46the attacks that happened
24:47in the school in Minab,
24:49Minab Elementary School
24:50and the energy infrastructure
24:51that's being attacked
24:52because when such attacks happen,
24:54it doesn't concern
24:55only Iran or Israel or US.
24:57It is a global community
24:58that suffers.
24:58There are many Indians
24:59who have died also
25:00in this war,
25:01mostly seafarers.
25:02Yes.
25:02So my,
25:04you know,
25:05question here is
25:06that you can't say
25:07that we'll wipe you out
25:09completely,
25:09your community,
25:10your religion,
25:11etc.
25:11and then expect
25:13no response.
25:13So on terrorism,
25:15I think we are aligned
25:16with Israel
25:16when it comes to
25:17counter-terrorism efforts,
25:18when it comes to
25:19intelligence sharing,
25:20when it comes to
25:21strategic partnership,
25:22technology,
25:23innovation,
25:23agriculture and water
25:24100%.
25:25So I think we've come
25:26a long way.
25:27As I said,
25:28this is my fifth visit.
25:29The first one was in 2015
25:30when I accompanied
25:31President Pranam Akharji
25:32to this country.
25:34And I have,
25:35in the last 11 to 12 years,
25:36seen a phenomenal change
25:38of how things
25:39have been different.
25:40I'll also tell you
25:41that during that time,
25:43almost 10 years ago,
25:45I'll not name the person,
25:46but a senior diplomat
25:47of Israel,
25:48I tried to ask him
25:49a question on Pakistan.
25:50And he stood up
25:52and he started
25:52screaming at me
25:53that how dare you
25:54ask a question
25:55on Pakistan with me?
25:56And this is not done.
25:58And so this was
25:5910 years ago
26:01where senior diplomat
26:02was upset
26:03because he didn't
26:03want to intervene
26:04in this kind
26:05of a scenario,
26:06just like India
26:07wouldn't want to intervene
26:08in Hamas,
26:09Gaza, etc.
26:09So he didn't want
26:10to speak on it.
26:10So he was on that
26:11kind of a corner.
26:1210 years later,
26:13now there is
26:14Ruvin Azhar
26:15who is the ambassador.
26:16And I've interviewed
26:17him multiple times.
26:18Last time I interviewed
26:19him,
26:19I asked him
26:20that are you
26:21comfortable
26:21with Pakistan army
26:23as a part
26:24of the international
26:25stabilization force
26:26that comes into play
26:27in Gaza?
26:28And he said,
26:28no,
26:28we do not want
26:30Pakistan army
26:31to be part
26:32of the international
26:32stabilization force
26:33and we will
26:34oppose it
26:35tooth and nail
26:35to the US.
26:37This is the kind
26:37of change
26:38that has happened.
26:40India and Israel
26:41are on the same page
26:42when it comes
26:43to counter-terrorism.
26:44We have great ties
26:45with Iran.
26:46We have traditional
26:47historic ties
26:48with Iran.
26:48I think that
26:50go back to decades
26:51and decades together.
26:52In many ways,
26:53we eat the same
26:53kind of food as well
26:54in many parts
26:55of the country.
26:56And I think
26:57from India's
26:58standpoint,
26:59the stand that
26:59we have taken
27:00is absolutely right.
27:02We say that
27:03there should be
27:04de-escalation.
27:05There needs to be
27:06peace that needs
27:07to be restored
27:07and war cannot
27:09be there forever.
27:10You have to
27:11ultimately come
27:11on the dialogue
27:12table and you
27:13have to pursue
27:14peace in the
27:16larger interest
27:16of the people.
27:17So that's how
27:18it should be.
27:19On the propaganda
27:20part that you
27:20told me,
27:21I think every time
27:22you do something
27:23in national interest,
27:25especially when it
27:25concerns security
27:26of your nation,
27:27etc.,
27:28there will be
27:28these people
27:29who will say
27:29this is propaganda.
27:33Like a couple
27:34of days ago,
27:35I was on a
27:36panel discussion
27:37on my channel
27:37with somebody,
27:38a lady actor,
27:39and she said
27:40that there's
27:41this very famous
27:43Major Mohit Sharma
27:44who was in the
27:44Indian Army.
27:45His photos,
27:46videos,
27:46his bravery
27:47is very viral.
27:48And somebody
27:49spread this rumor
27:50that this film
27:50is based on
27:51Major Mohit Sharma.
27:52So she tried
27:53to counter me
27:54saying that,
27:54you know,
27:55Major Mohit Sharma
27:56was working
27:56in Pakistan
27:57and this and that.
27:59And I said,
27:59boss,
28:00you don't even
28:00know the basic
28:01facts.
28:01Indian Army
28:02does not operate
28:03in Pakistan.
28:04Indian Army
28:05operates on
28:06Indian soil.
28:06Indian Army
28:07works in Kashmir
28:08and in other
28:09parts of the
28:09country.
28:10And Major Mohit
28:10Sharma was also
28:12in North Kashmir
28:13where he sacrificed
28:14his life for the
28:14country.
28:15The film is not
28:16based on Major
28:17Mohit Sharma.
28:18Film is based
28:19on a spy
28:20or a covert
28:22operation leader
28:23who was in
28:24Pakistan.
28:24The film is
28:25based on reality,
28:27it's based on
28:27facts,
28:28it's inspired
28:29by reality
28:30and if you
28:31are not
28:31comfortable with
28:32it,
28:32don't watch it.
28:33I don't think
28:34that any person
28:36who's involved
28:36with the film
28:37has anything
28:38to do with
28:38BJP,
28:39RSS or the
28:40Modi government
28:41wouldn't have
28:42even met any
28:42political leaders
28:43for this film.
28:45But, you know,
28:46such attacks
28:46will happen.
28:48My only response
28:49to those people
28:50who attack
28:50Dorender is that
28:51look at the
28:52public reaction.
28:53If you cannot
28:54sense the
28:55pulse of the
28:56people,
28:56then God
28:57help you.
28:58If you're a
28:59politician or
29:00if you're anybody
29:01with any
29:02ideology on a
29:03subject of
29:03national security,
29:04you should
29:04unite.
29:05Now, you
29:05might say,
29:06no, no,
29:06you're praising
29:07Modi,
29:07you're doing
29:08this,
29:08presenting facts,
29:10demonetization
29:10happened.
29:11Now, this is
29:11not a documentary
29:12on demonetization
29:13that we show
29:14that people
29:14were suffering,
29:15etc.
29:15I suffered
29:16myself.
29:17I was also
29:17standing in
29:18that queue,
29:18etc.
29:19I think
29:19everybody was.
29:21Definitely.
29:21Now, this is
29:22on counter-terrorism.
29:23So, we will
29:23say, why
29:25demonetization
29:25was required?
29:26There was a
29:27lot of black
29:27money, there
29:28was a lot of
29:28fake currency,
29:29there was
29:30counterfeit
29:30currency used
29:31for terrorism.
29:32Now, you
29:32say, you
29:33show the
29:33killing of
29:34Atik Ahmed.
29:35Now, Atik Ahmed
29:36was a criminal
29:37gangster.
29:38He confessed to
29:39having links with
29:40Pakistan.
29:40He confessed to
29:41having links with
29:42Lashkar-e-Toiwa.
29:43He's not a
29:44saint.
29:44So, who are you
29:45trying to protect?
29:46In my capacity
29:47as a researcher,
29:48I tried to
29:48factually correct
29:50all these
29:50things.
29:51We went
29:51through the
29:51entire story
29:52boat and I
29:53think Aditya has
29:53done a phenomenal
29:54job.
29:55You know, all
29:55this criticism is
29:56part of the
29:57story.
29:57Last time when
29:58this criticism
29:59happened from
29:59people I don't
30:00want to name,
30:01I think it
30:01gave a great
30:02publicity to
30:03the film.
30:03I was going
30:04to say, I
30:04mean, all
30:05talk is good
30:05talk.
30:06Yeah, because
30:06you know, Aditya
30:07has also done
30:08something very
30:08different which
30:09many people in
30:09India don't
30:10like.
30:10He has not
30:11done any PR
30:11campaigns or
30:13publicity stunts or
30:14publicity for this
30:15film, which is
30:16rare.
30:16I was going to
30:17say, I didn't
30:17see any media
30:18talks before the
30:19release of the
30:20first one.
30:22I have done
30:22interviews, although
30:23I don't cover
30:24entertainment, but
30:24when there is a
30:25subject of national
30:26security, etc., some
30:27filmmakers come to
30:28TV studios, etc., and
30:29they want me to
30:30interview them because
30:31I understand the
30:31subject.
30:32So I've done
30:32countless interviews.
30:34My other
30:34entertainment editors
30:35or entertainment
30:36editors all across
30:37have done dozens
30:38and hundreds of
30:39such interviews
30:40countless times.
30:41But for this,
30:42there was no
30:43major events that
30:44happened, there was
30:45no major premiere
30:46that happened to
30:47red carpet
30:47premiere, etc.
30:48There were no
30:49media interviews
30:50that happened.
30:51You haven't seen
30:52Ranveer Singh or
30:53Aditya Dar or
30:53others in media
30:55studios, you know,
30:56coming for
30:56interviews.
30:57They want the
30:58people to respond.
30:59People have
31:00responded.
31:01I think the
31:01entire Bharat
31:02Varsha has
31:03spoken and we
31:04thank them.
31:05We are delighted
31:06that you are
31:06loving the film.
31:07I really had to
31:08say, yesterday I
31:09was like, oh
31:09my gosh, why
31:10didn't I see this
31:11before?
31:11But I think I
31:12always talk about
31:13great timing.
31:14I also want to
31:15talk about the,
31:16because you
31:16were two of
31:17you as research
31:19consultants on the
31:20team.
31:21Yeah.
31:21Would you like to
31:22throw some
31:22spotlight on the
31:23second person who
31:24I believe is
31:25Dibya S.
31:27Yeah.
31:28I'm glad you
31:28noticed.
31:29Because nobody
31:30seems to have
31:30noticed Dibya
31:31with me.
31:32Yeah.
31:33But yes, there
31:34is one more
31:35person, Dibya, who
31:36is an integral
31:38part of the
31:38research team.
31:39And I thank
31:40him for his
31:41service, for this
31:42very, very critical
31:43and important
31:43project.
31:44Hopefully in
31:45sometime in
31:45future, he will
31:46come out in
31:46public and
31:48speak and people
31:49can interview
31:50him.
31:50But for
31:51reasons of
31:53security and
31:55sensitivity involved,
31:57he has not
31:57come out.
31:58But he is a
32:00very, very
32:01critical and
32:02integral part of
32:03the filmmaking
32:04process, just
32:05like unknown
32:07men are for the
32:09killings that are
32:09happening in
32:10Pakistan.
32:10I see.
32:11Well, Dibya S., if
32:12you're listening to
32:13this episode, I
32:14want to give you a
32:15hats off because I
32:17think clearly it's a
32:18team effort.
32:19Absolutely.
32:20And hopefully I
32:20could get to meet
32:22you in person.
32:23But coming to
32:24Durandar 2, a lot
32:26of people tag me in
32:27their stories because
32:28there's a part at
32:29the end of the
32:29video where they
32:30see an Israeli
32:31man, a Jewish
32:32man, because he's
32:33visibly Jewish,
32:34wears a kippah.
32:35I haven't watched
32:36the movie, but I
32:37wouldn't mind if you
32:38give me a spoiler.
32:39Oh, no, people
32:40are killing me.
32:41You know, from the
32:42very beginning, last
32:43three days, I've
32:44been continuously
32:45putting out, you
32:46know, whatever
32:47stories people are
32:48sharing and
32:48making me.
32:49So I'm putting
32:49across and people
32:50are abusing me.
32:51Don't put spoilers.
32:52Don't do this for
32:53us.
32:53We are blocking
32:54you on Instagram.
32:55This is not done.
32:56So I will not give
32:58any spoilers.
32:58Oh, my God.
32:59I would want people
32:59to watch it.
33:00But yes, a part of
33:01what you said is
33:02there.
33:03And there are a
33:04lot of twists and
33:05turns in the film.
33:06If you assist me, you
33:07know, people are
33:08loving Ranveer Singh.
33:09Yeah.
33:09People obviously have
33:10loved Akshay
33:11Khanna.
33:12I think this is a
33:12rebirth of Akshay
33:13Khanna in many ways
33:14who I have always
33:15admired.
33:15He's amazing.
33:16And of course,
33:17Ahar Madhavan, I
33:18mean, Ahar Madhavan is
33:20quite a person when
33:21he, you know, acts in
33:22that Ajit Doval case.
33:23Yeah.
33:23Actually has studied
33:25the profile and he's
33:26bang on Ajit Doval.
33:27And of course, there
33:29are others like
33:30Arjun Rampal who, you
33:31know, in that ISI role
33:32that he is in.
33:33He's amazing.
33:34But for me, honestly, the
33:37best actor in the film is
33:38Rakesh Bedi.
33:39Rakesh Bedi, who I've
33:41watched for since my
33:42childhood, you know, he
33:43was part of this serial
33:44called Sriman Srimati.
33:45It used to come many, many
33:46years ago and people used
33:47to be glued on it.
33:49And he also has reinvented
33:52himself.
33:53He had a small role in one
33:54of the previous films that
33:55Azit Doval did.
33:56But in this one, the
33:57character that he has is
33:59ultimate.
34:00He's a comedian, ace
34:02comedian of India.
34:03But in this film, the
34:04kind of natural comedy
34:05that comes in and in
34:07many of the things he
34:08has improvised himself.
34:09Really?
34:10He's told him that, you
34:11know, let me do this
34:11this way and that has
34:13clicked and people are
34:13loving it.
34:14And there are, you
34:16know, many twists and
34:17turns that come in the
34:18film.
34:18But Rakesh Bedi's twists
34:20and turn that comes at
34:21the end and people are
34:23like, what?
34:24Really?
34:25So I won't give any
34:26spoilers, but people will
34:28love the film.
34:28I love the fact that you
34:29dodged this question, but
34:31let me ask you this in a
34:32different way.
34:33Yeah.
34:33I know India and Israel
34:34have had ties way, way
34:35before, as we see it in
34:37the movie as well.
34:37But where do you see?
34:38I know a lot of people
34:40ask me as an Indian
34:41Israeli saying that,
34:43especially Israelis ask
34:44me like, India is
34:45friends with Arab
34:46countries and it's also
34:47friends with Israel.
34:48Yeah.
34:48Like, what is it doing?
34:50Why is it doing?
34:51Why isn't it siding with
34:52anybody?
34:53And I'm like, India, in
34:55my opinion, India, it
34:57took India a while to be
34:58its own person because
34:59we went through a lot
35:00of challenges, be it
35:03through colonialism or
35:05Mughal invasion and
35:06stuff like that.
35:07It took a long time.
35:08It also took time because
35:09the leadership had to
35:11change.
35:11Yeah.
35:12But India is going to
35:13do what works best in
35:14their interest.
35:16But the India-Israel
35:17relationship is not
35:19hush-hush anymore.
35:21India publicly claims
35:23that it is good friends
35:24with Israel.
35:24So where do you see
35:25India-Israel ties going
35:27in the next decade?
35:28Well, on your question
35:30of, you know,
35:32entertainment, first
35:33I'll come to that.
35:35You know the series
35:36Fodha.
35:36Yes.
35:37So I think Fodha has
35:39been the biggest hit in
35:40India.
35:40There is an Indian
35:41adaptation as well.
35:42There is.
35:43And that has been, you
35:44know, directed and
35:46produced by one of my
35:47friends, Kapil Mattu.
35:48He's done an amazing
35:49job in that series.
35:52But on Fodha, I'll tell
35:52you, I've been in touch
35:53with two of the
35:55actresses, Zaki and
35:57Ronali Shimon.
35:58And last year, I got
35:59an opportunity to host
36:00Ronali Shimon in
36:01Mumbai.
36:02And that was
36:03phenomenal.
36:03You know, she was
36:04expecting and yet she
36:06came along with her
36:07mother.
36:07And that meant a lot.
36:09So as a parting gift,
36:10I gave her a statue of
36:13Goddess Durga.
36:15Because, you know, I
36:16told her that this will
36:17bless the child that
36:18you'll have.
36:19So I think Fodha has
36:20been a phenomenal success.
36:21And Fodha also met
36:22Prime Minister Narendra
36:23Modi recently.
36:24I know.
36:24As you were there.
36:25What just happened?
36:27It's not undercover
36:28anymore.
36:29So India and Israel
36:30are coming together.
36:31People are also loving
36:32that other series called
36:32Tehran, which is on
36:33Apple TV.
36:35Earlier, there was
36:36Homeland that was
36:37loved.
36:37But anyway, so sticking
36:38to India and Israel,
36:39I think there is a lot
36:40that can happen.
36:41The last Council
36:42General, Kobi, who
36:44was in Mumbai, I
36:45think did phenomenal
36:46in not just interacting
36:48with Bollywood, but
36:49trying to bring them
36:50here and shoot
36:51here and do many
36:52projects in
36:53collaboration.
36:54I think there have
36:55been some filmmakers
36:56who have been very,
36:57very interested.
36:58Even Saki from, you
36:59know, Boda came to
37:01India and I think he's
37:02working on some film
37:03with some Indian
37:05director or producer.
37:06So I think a lot can
37:07happen.
37:07A lot will happen.
37:08Here also I've been
37:09interacting with the
37:10political leadership and
37:11they want the film
37:12industry to explore
37:13Israel for shoot
37:14location, etc.
37:15and they're ready
37:16to offer whatever
37:18can be done from
37:19the government
37:19perspective.
37:20So I think a lot
37:20can happen, a lot
37:21will happen in the
37:22coming days.
37:25That's awesome.
37:26And my last and
37:27the final question
37:28is I've read a lot
37:29of news and people
37:30jokingly say that
37:31you're probably,
37:32because you're in
37:32Israel, you're working
37:33on Durendar part 3.
37:34What do you have to
37:35say about that?
37:36Well, you never
37:37know.
37:37Because Durendar
37:38first was expected
37:40as a single film.
37:42Then the screenplay
37:44was scripted in such
37:45a manner and Aditya
37:47goes through very
37:48intricate details from
37:50scripting to the
37:50storyboards, etc.
37:52And he has a
37:52wonderful team.
37:53He has an AD
37:54called Ojas Gautam
37:55who is Yami Gautam's
37:57brother.
37:57Oh, really?
37:58Yeah, and he's
37:58amazing.
37:59What's in the family?
38:00He works 24-7.
38:02Ojas has been like a
38:03driving force for this
38:05entire film and he's
38:06done amazing.
38:07I know Monal also
38:08who's in the
38:08writing team and
38:09you know, has been
38:11working on it.
38:12So, I think you
38:14never know if a
38:14Durendar 3 comes or
38:16a different kind of
38:16a film comes because
38:18this is a kind of a
38:19genre now which
38:20Aditya has, you
38:22know, led.
38:23And this is a new
38:24kind of a cinema.
38:25I would call it a
38:26global cinema from
38:27India because it's
38:28not just Indians who
38:29are loving it.
38:30From US to UK to
38:31Australia, people are
38:33loving it all across.
38:34I mean, if it's not
38:35in Middle East, I
38:36would say it is the
38:37loss of Middle East.
38:38That people are
38:38missing out.
38:40People are forced to
38:40either come to India to
38:42watch it in a cinema
38:43hall or actually watch
38:44it, you know, the
38:46pirated copy.
38:47I have had people
38:48messaging from UE,
38:49first writing,
38:51apologies, Aditya, for
38:52this message.
38:52But I really wanted to
38:54text you.
38:54I just watched Durendar
38:56sitting here in Dubai
38:57on a pirated, you know,
38:59version that came in.
38:59I'm sorry.
39:00I had no other option.
39:01But love did.
39:02Congratulations.
39:03It was superb, amazing.
39:04Similarly, and you'd be
39:06surprised, Pakistan, a
39:08senior journalist in the
39:08young group of Pakistan,
39:10Khalid, he texted me his
39:12from his living room, a
39:14photograph, a video of
39:15Durendar playing on his
39:17channel, on his television.
39:18And that's a pirated
39:20copy.
39:20And that was on the day
39:22when Durendar released in
39:23India.
39:23No way.
39:24On Friday to March.
39:24Yes.
39:25That's crazy.
39:25And it has been reported
39:26with the ones I tweeted
39:27that video from Khalid.
39:29It's been all across the
39:31Indian media.
39:32So in Pakistan, people,
39:35the radicals, the army,
39:37the government may oppose
39:38Indian cinema, ban it,
39:40etc.
39:40But the reality is the
39:42Pakistanis cannot live
39:43without Indian cinema,
39:44Indian music, Indian
39:45songs, Indian food.
39:47So that's how it is.
39:48I mean, Durendar has been
39:49doing amazing in the
39:51piracy market as well,
39:52which I don't encourage.
39:53But in Pakistan, that's
39:54how it is.
39:55I see.
39:55And you never know.
39:57I think Aditya Dhar is on
39:58this kind of a speedboat
39:59right now.
40:00So I think, and the best
40:02part about him is that he
40:03comes from a very normal
40:04middle class Kashmiri
40:06Pandit family.
40:07And he's very down to
40:09earth.
40:10Normally, if you would
40:10see, have seen at
40:12Starcade, etc.
40:13He would have bodyguards
40:14all across and, you
40:15know, rooming around in
40:16Mercedes and, you know,
40:18Bentleys and all.
40:18And then get giving
40:20interviews all across,
40:21going on trips all
40:23across.
40:23But he is grounded to
40:25such a level.
40:26It's simply amazing.
40:27It's just, I think he's
40:28enjoying it with his
40:30family.
40:30And that's what matters
40:32for him to provide a
40:34new kind of cinema to
40:35the world to prove that
40:37we can also provide global
40:39cinema from India.
40:40I think he will inspire
40:41hundreds and thousands
40:43of Indians in different
40:44categories, not just
40:45becoming a director or
40:46a producer.
40:47And I think his B62
40:49studios, which has
40:50provided such amazing
40:51films and now
40:52Duranthar, is now among
40:53the top producers of
40:55India.
40:56And just imagine if he
40:57has created Duranthar,
40:59what else is he capable
41:00to create?
41:01Well, we're all waiting
41:02because I'm like, okay,
41:03what do you have next
41:04in line to show?
41:05So congratulations to
41:07the entire team, to
41:08Aditya Dhar, to you
41:10and to your fellow
41:11research consultant and
41:12to all the actors who
41:13have acted in the movie.
41:14I'm in Israel, but I am
41:15a proud Indian at the
41:17end of the day.
41:17And I can't wait to
41:19recommend this movie to
41:20Israelis because I think
41:22they'll absolutely love
41:23it.
41:23And I think they'll also
41:24relate because we have
41:26similar challenges.
41:27Actually, something else
41:28that came to mind, which
41:29I would like to cover, are
41:31the 26-11 attacks.
41:34I saw the screen go red
41:36with black text on it.
41:38There were conversations
41:39recorded between the
41:40terrorist handlers and
41:41the hostages.
41:42I would like to shed
41:44spotlight on the
41:47Chabad house attack,
41:48right, where the rabbi
41:49and his wife were killed
41:51but his child was
41:52actually saved by his
41:54Indian nanny.
41:55Would you be able to,
41:57because I know there
41:57were actual recordings
41:59of the terrorist and
42:01the nanny, and he told
42:03her to keep her mouth
42:04shut otherwise, you
42:05know, she would not live
42:07another day to, you
42:08know, experience Shabbat.
42:09Would you be able to give
42:11some more details on what
42:13exactly went down?
42:14Yeah, absolutely.
42:15I've reported on this.
42:1726-11 has been one of
42:19the most brutal chapters
42:20of terrorism in India.
42:21It was launched by the
42:22Pakistani terror group
42:23Lashkar-e-Toyba, led
42:24by Hafiz Saeed and
42:25Lakhi.
42:26And there were several
42:28of these terrorists that
42:29came through sea to
42:31Mumbai in 2008.
42:32And they attacked
42:33Taj Hotel.
42:35They attacked, you
42:36know, prominent places
42:37in Kolapa.
42:38and the CST terminal
42:40and several other
42:40locations across
42:41South Mumbai.
42:42Their basic agenda
42:44was to do maximum
42:45killings and create a
42:46kind of a fair
42:47psychosis and drive
42:49attention to whatever
42:51they wanted.
42:51So, but they're also
42:53at a cover.
42:53So, they were wearing
42:54these Hindu, you know,
42:56threads, red threads
42:57that we wear to
42:58showcase that, you
42:59know, maybe it's an
43:00internal kind of a
43:01terror attack and
43:02that's how there was a
43:03huge debate in India
43:04also that were these
43:05Pakistani terrorists or
43:06what was happening.
43:07So, they were trying
43:08to cover.
43:09Also, what happened
43:11was that Khawad
43:11House, the main
43:12Jewish place in
43:13Mumbai, came under
43:14attack and there
43:15were several people
43:16who were killed out
43:17there.
43:17The NSG did a
43:19massive operation to
43:20ultimately kill the
43:21terrorists.
43:22But later, we came
43:23to know the audio
43:25recordings that came
43:26in.
43:26So, in Pakistan,
43:27there were two
43:28people, Sajid Mir,
43:30Lakhi, and also
43:31Major Iqbal from
43:32the ISI.
43:33They were in touch
43:34directly with the
43:34terrorists.
43:35What was also
43:36happening is that
43:36they were monitoring
43:37Indian news channels
43:39closely, who were
43:40showing life, Khawad
43:41House, and saying
43:42that, you know, the
43:43NSG is here, the
43:44police is here, do
43:44this, do that.
43:45So, Sajid Mir and
43:46others were directing
43:48the terrorists to
43:49kill all the Jews.
43:50There is an audio
43:51recording where, you
43:52know, the direction
43:53comes that killed
43:54them.
43:55So, there were voices
43:56begging to save, not
43:57to kill, etc.
43:58But, immediately, Sajid
44:00Mir orders in that
44:01phone call in the most
44:02brutal fashion that kill
44:03these guys immediately.
44:06But, NSG did a
44:07fantastic operation.
44:08I have interviewed,
44:09in fact, the commander
44:10of the NSG who was
44:11leading that operation
44:12is in Delhi and now
44:13retired.
44:14But, I think that was
44:15a phenomenal operation
44:16even though there were
44:17a lot of questions on
44:18the speed with which
44:19the government reacted
44:20at that time could
44:21have been much, much,
44:22much better.
44:23In one case, you know,
44:24they were waiting for
44:25the home minister to
44:26come in Delhi so that
44:27the NSG could fly to
44:28Mumbai.
44:28They shouldn't have
44:29waited for him.
44:30But, yes, this was
44:32one of the most brutal
44:32chapters and this has
44:33been narrated in
44:36Durandar.
44:36It was important because
44:38at that time also,
44:39there was discussion
44:40in the Indian
44:41government that we
44:42could strike
44:43Mureetke, which is
44:44the headquarters of
44:44Lashkere Toiba in
44:45Pakistan.
44:46But, no attack was
44:47done.
44:48The former NSA of
44:49that time, Shiv
44:50Shankar Menon, writes
44:51in his book that it
44:52was a political
44:53decision.
44:54We had option from
44:55the military and
44:56the intelligence to
44:57strike Mureetke.
44:58But, the government
44:58of that day took a
45:00call to Congress
45:01government that we
45:02will not go ahead
45:03with the attack
45:04because this will
45:04ruin the relations
45:05between India and
45:06Pakistan.
45:06So, that's how it
45:07is.
45:08Now, we are living
45:09in a different world
45:09which is very
45:10important.
45:11We have to be
45:12offensive.
45:12We can't, you
45:14know, just sit every
45:16time there is a
45:16terror attack.
45:17There has to be a
45:17response that has to
45:18be given.
45:19I face threats
45:20regularly but it
45:21doesn't matter.
45:22I was going to say,
45:22I mean, for somebody
45:23who's been on media
45:25for the longest time
45:25and openly,
45:28unapologetically,
45:29speaks his mind,
45:29it can be dangerous
45:31sometimes but...
45:32Yeah, it's dangerous
45:33but, you know,
45:34how long will you
45:34stay silent?
45:35Also that.
45:36I mean, what
45:36maximum will they
45:37do?
45:37They will kill me.
45:38I mean, that's okay
45:39but at least I'll
45:40die, you know,
45:41narrating the truth.
45:42So, the reality of
45:43the matter is that,
45:43you know, terrorism
45:44led to exodus of my
45:45family from Kashmir.
45:47I lost, my family
45:48lost, my community
45:49lost our homeland
45:50forever.
45:51I do not know when
45:52my community will get
45:53the chance to return
45:54to Kashmir.
45:55So, home is gone
45:56already.
45:56We are living in exile
45:57in our own homeland.
46:00So, I don't care.
46:01I will speak the truth
46:02on terrorism, etc.
46:03You know, the moment
46:04I came here
46:05and I reported on
46:06Netanyahu
46:07and I was the first
46:08Indian journalist
46:08to actually catch
46:09Netanyahu at
46:09Bet Shemesh.
46:10I was going to say,
46:11you were on point
46:12because he was at
46:13the scene where
46:15the ballistic missile
46:16was hit.
46:16Yeah.
46:17So, I was coming from
46:18interviewing the
46:18foreign minister,
46:19Saar.
46:20I was doing an
46:20interview with him
46:21at the foreign
46:21ministry.
46:22So, I came in
46:23and my local
46:25journalist told me
46:25that we can go to
46:26Bet Shemesh.
46:27It's just 10 minutes
46:28away.
46:28I said, yes, why not?
46:29Because there was
46:30a huge brutal attack
46:32that had happened.
46:32Yes.
46:33And 9 people had
46:34died and more
46:35than 40 injured.
46:35So, the moment
46:36we reached there,
46:37there was a lot
46:37of security out
46:38there, which was
46:38unusual.
46:39The Israeli
46:39journalists told
46:40me that it
46:40never happens
46:41this way.
46:41Yeah.
46:42They're doing
46:42such a massive
46:43checking.
46:44And then while
46:44I was recording
46:45my walkthrough
46:46from there,
46:46suddenly we saw
46:47Netanyahu
46:48right behind us
46:48doing a review
46:49of the entire
46:50place.
46:50So, he spoke
46:51to the Hebrew
46:51media first and
46:52then I butted
46:53in and said
46:54that, would you
46:54speak?
46:55I'm an Indian
46:55journalist.
46:56He refused
46:56and he walked
46:57away.
46:57And just before
46:58he was about
46:59to board his
46:59car and walk
47:00towards his
47:00car, I screamed
47:01again, that at
47:02least speak on
47:03your conversation
47:04with your friend
47:04Prime Minister
47:05Modi that you
47:06had.
47:06So, he heard
47:06Modi, so he
47:07came back and
47:08he spoke to me
47:09for two minutes
47:09where he said
47:10that, yeah, he
47:11had a phone call
47:11with Modi, he
47:12discussed the
47:13regional situation
47:14and he said
47:15that we appreciate
47:15and love India
47:17for the kind of
47:18support Prime
47:19Minister Modi
47:19has given.
47:20And he said
47:20that people in
47:21Israel absolutely
47:22draw and
47:23respect people
47:24in India.
47:24So, immediately
47:25after that, around
47:26seven, eight days
47:27later, somebody in
47:29Pakistan decided to
47:30run a disinformation
47:31campaign against
47:32me.
47:32So, there was a
47:33Pakistani website
47:33that did a story
47:34saying that Aditya
47:36Rajkall, an Indian
47:37journalist, has
47:38leaked the location
47:39of Netanyahu and
47:40Iran has done a
47:41strike for Netanyahu
47:42and Netanyahu has
47:43been killed.
47:44This is how this
47:45entire rumor of
47:46Netanyahu's, you
47:47know, alleged
47:48killing or assassination
47:49happened.
47:50Is he dead or
47:50alive, started
47:51for death?
47:51So, my video
47:52went viral all
47:53across.
47:55Some Iranian,
47:56like Tasneem News
47:57Agency in Iran,
47:58ran my video
47:59saying that I'm an
47:59Israeli journalist
48:00who leaked the
48:01location of Netanyahu
48:02and he was killed.
48:03Well, you do look
48:04Israeli, so.
48:05Oh, yeah, that
48:05happens a lot.
48:06You know, funnily,
48:07when I come to
48:08Israel, people start
48:09speaking to me in
48:09Hebrew.
48:10In Hebrew.
48:10When I am in
48:11UAE, they start to
48:12me speaking in the
48:13local language.
48:14Yeah.
48:14And when I was in
48:15Armenia recently, they
48:16again started speaking.
48:17So, that happens.
48:18Maybe it helps.
48:19But you blend in
48:19everywhere.
48:20But as I said, I
48:21think I told you
48:21last time as well,
48:22the first time I
48:23went to Iraq via
48:24Jordan and I was
48:25only 24 at that
48:26time.
48:27So, the only lines
48:28that I had learned
48:29Arabic was, I hope
48:31I pronounce it right
48:32right now,
48:33that means, don't
48:36shoot, I'm a
48:36journalist.
48:37Oh, my God.
48:38Lifesaver.
48:38So, I got
48:40Netanyahu, this
48:41rumor was spread.
48:42And when
48:43Netanyahu then
48:44came in and
48:44gave a video,
48:45etc., so it
48:45got busted.
48:46Then they ran a
48:47campaign saying
48:48that Aditya Raj
48:48Kool has been
48:49arrested by the
48:50Mossad because he
48:51leaked the location
48:51of Netanyahu.
48:52So, across
48:53Pakistani media,
48:54across Iranian
48:55media, I am
48:56told somewhere in
48:57Europe also, because
48:58Reuters came in
48:59touch with me to
49:00interview me on
49:01what had happened.
49:02And in India
49:03also, who know
49:04me, are spreading
49:05this hatred and
49:07this fake
49:07information.
49:08So, I think, we
49:09are in war,
49:10situation here in
49:11the Middle East,
49:12but disinformation
49:13and propaganda is
49:14the biggest war
49:14right now.
49:15Because people
49:16simply believe it.
49:16I have family
49:17members from
49:18across the world
49:18texting me,
49:19have you been
49:19arrested?
49:20What's wrong?
49:20What happened?
49:21Why did you
49:21leak the location?
49:22I'm like, boss,
49:23I was not even
49:24doing live
49:24reportage from
49:25there.
49:25I recorded
49:26something, which
49:27I sent to
49:27office an hour
49:28later, and it
49:28was played an
49:29hour later.
49:30But that's the
49:31reality of propaganda
49:32that happens all
49:32across.
49:33And here also,
49:34people are simply
49:34not able to
49:35believe that
49:36Netanyahu
49:36is alive.
49:36They are still
49:37saying that all
49:38these are AI
49:39videos, even
49:40though he came
49:40from a press
49:40conference in
49:41front of the
49:42international media
49:43where I was
49:43invited as well.
49:45You know, they
49:45say, no, these
49:46are AI videos,
49:47he has six
49:47fingers and his
49:48coffee is not
49:49spilling and
49:50this and that.
49:50All rubbish.
49:52Well, Aditya,
49:53thank you for
49:55debunking everything
49:56and for being on
49:58the ground because
49:59it has really been
50:00hard for Israel to
50:01speak their truth.
50:02So, when we
50:03have journalists
50:05like you on the
50:06ground telling the
50:07truth, especially
50:07the Indian media
50:08because I know
50:08Indian mainstream,
50:10like super
50:10mainstream media
50:11can be a little
50:12bit problematic in
50:13terms of how
50:14information gets
50:15fed to people.
50:16Yeah.
50:16So, thank you for
50:17being on the
50:17ground.
50:17I know you're
50:17stuck but you've
50:19been doing your
50:19best.
50:20I'm not stuck
50:20anymore.
50:21So, I was stuck
50:22immediately because
50:23I, you know, when I
50:24reached the airport,
50:25immediately at that
50:26time there was
50:27sirens.
50:28I saw your story
50:28because I immediately
50:29made that video.
50:30Yes.
50:30My presence of
50:31mind, I made that
50:32video and we were
50:33the first to go
50:34live all across
50:35because I got
50:35information that
50:36attacks have
50:37happened on Iran
50:38and then the
50:38sirens buzzed so
50:39we were live
50:40continuously but
50:41immediately after
50:42that I decided that
50:43I have to stay.
50:44I could have
50:44probably gone to
50:45Jordan or Egypt
50:46and left but I've
50:48been here for 27
50:48days and I love
50:50it.
50:50I mean, Indians
50:51are loved in
50:52Israel, Israelis
50:53are loved in
50:54India, some
50:54people may be
50:55uncomfortable with
50:56it, that's their
50:56business.
50:57But, lastly, I'll
50:58give you a
50:58breaking news.
50:59Okay, I'm ready.
51:00The Israeli
51:01government has
51:01got in touch
51:02with me to
51:03screen Durandar
51:03in Israel.
51:04No way!
51:05Yeah, so they
51:06wanted to help
51:07out in this
51:07entire process and
51:08I have some
51:09Indians as well
51:10who are really
51:10keen for this
51:11to happen.
51:11Now, it cannot
51:12happen immediately
51:13unfortunately because
51:13there's a war and
51:15there is of course
51:16a rule here that
51:17more than 50
51:18people cannot be
51:19at a single
51:20place and I
51:20think the
51:21theatres are
51:21shut as well
51:22as per the
51:22Homefront
51:23command instructions.
51:24But, hopefully
51:25in future, fingers
51:26crossed, Durandar
51:27in Israel.
51:27Oh my gosh, is
51:28there a way I
51:29can get involved
51:30in the entire
51:31process?
51:31Why not?
51:32Of course.
51:32Okay, let's talk
51:33this off-camera.
51:34But, thank you
51:34for giving us
51:35this breaking news.
51:36I think this is
51:36the perfect end
51:37to this episode.
51:39For everybody
51:40who tuned in,
51:40thank you so
51:41much.
51:41I think I had
51:43the perfect
51:43opportunity to
51:44interview somebody
51:45from the Durandar
51:46team and also
51:47a very dear
51:48friend and brother.
51:49But, thank you
51:50once again.
51:51And, I hope
51:51you reach India
51:52safe and sound.
51:54And, in the
51:55meantime, stay
51:56safe, watch the
51:57right content, and
51:58I'll see you next
51:59time.
51:59Thank you, Ravital.
52:01Jai Hint.
52:02Ami Israel Khai.
52:03Ami Israel Khai.
52:04And, Jai Bharat.
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