Jaskirat Singh Rangi descends deeper into his alias as Hamza Ali Mazari, rising through Karachi's criminal hierarchy to claim the feared title "Sher-e-Baloch" while balancing loyalty, betrayal, and survival in a ruthless underworld.
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00:00The Israeli government has got in touch with me to screen Durandar in Israel.
00:04No way!
00:05Yeah, Durandar first, which became the highest box office of all time.
00:10And now Durandar second, which is in less than three days, 400 CR.
00:16Uri is where Aditya Dar's claim to fame began.
00:20Although he had 20 years of hard work behind him,
00:24you know, there was this slogan also in that,
00:26How's the Josh?
00:28Hi, sir.
00:28How's the Josh?
00:29Hi, sir.
00:30How's the Josh?
00:31Hi, sir.
00:31That became like a national anthem all across India.
00:34He himself is so involved.
00:36You know, he's so involved.
00:36He's involved to the level of dialogues.
00:38Right.
00:38He writes dialogues.
00:40He writes lyrics.
00:41He writes screenplay.
00:43He directs.
00:44He knows the cinematography of this entire thing.
00:46So he has this passion which drives him.
00:50That is the most amazing part about him.
00:51And he's so down to earth.
00:52What Aditya has done, he has brought in a paradigm shift in Indian cinema.
00:57You know, after COVID, after the pandemic, people had stopped going to cinema halls.
01:02You know, they were consuming entertainment content from Netflix, from Amazon, from Hotstar, Jio, etc.
01:08But now people are willing to go.
01:10People are actually willing to go twice, thrice to watch the same film.
01:14But at what stage were you brought in?
01:17And how do you assure the accuracy and the authenticity of...
01:20Because the movie is inspired by true events, right?
01:23So how do you ensure all of that?
01:25So that's my job.
01:26We were brought in just when the concept came in and the research was underway to deeply study, you know,
01:32what all has happened over the years.
01:34Be it terrorism emanating from Pakistan, terror groups working in Pakistan, gangs operating from Karachi.
01:40How there might be some foreign countries trying to infiltrate that particular gang and, you know, taking revenge.
01:46For me, I have been a victim of terrorism from Jammu and Kashmir.
01:50So that's one part of it.
01:51Aditya has been a victim of terrorism.
01:52He's a Kashmiri Pandit as well.
01:54So he has faced it.
01:55He has seen it from his own eyes.
01:57And secondly, now over the last 18 years, I have reported on terrorism.
02:00I have reported from Kashmir.
02:02I have reported on Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc.
02:04So I've studied it in greater detail.
02:07I am a patriotic Indian.
02:08If I have a problem, I will question the government.
02:10During the pandemic, you know, I raised a lot of questions against the government that this should have happened this
02:15way.
02:15And, you know, these were the problems that government did not consider, etc.
02:19In a democracy, you have a right to question the government.
02:21After Pulwama, we had Balakot.
02:23Before that, we had the Uri terror attack.
02:26And then we had a counter in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, a surgical strike.
02:29And most recently, Operation Sindhuru. Phenomenal.
02:32You know, what has happened also, people also say, you know, we are losing information war and this and that.
02:37I don't believe that.
02:38I think we are very well settled.
02:41What message we had to convey in preemptive strikes or whatever limited strikes we did, I think it was phenomenal.
02:47Militarily speaking, diplomatically speaking, and politically speaking.
02:51My only response to those people who attacked Duranandar is that, look at the public reaction.
02:56What was the big movie?
02:57I enjoyed it.
02:58I enjoyed it.
02:59Yes.
02:59I enjoyed it.
02:59I enjoyed it.
03:00I enjoyed it.
03:01I enjoyed it.
03:02I enjoyed it.
03:02If you cannot sense the pulse of the people, then God help you.
03:06Somebody in Pakistan decided to run a disinformation campaign against me.
03:11So there was a Pakistani website that did a story saying that Aditya Rajkoll, an Indian journalist, has leaked the
03:17location of Netanyahu.
03:18And Iran has done a strike on Netanyahu.
03:21And Netanyahu has been killed.
03:26Today we meet the man who made sure Duranandar got it right.
03:30So today we are with one of the research consultants for Duranandar and Duranandar the Revenge.
03:36And he also happens to be the senior executive editor at MDTV, the one and only Aditya Rajkoll, my Kashmiri
03:45Pandit brother.
03:46And he's also a returning guest who is currently in Israel.
03:49How are you feeling today?
03:50Well, thanks, Revital.
03:52Always a pleasure to interact with you.
03:53And I'm feeling great.
03:55This is my fifth visit to Israel.
03:56And although I'm missing all the action of Duranandar back home, but hopefully I'll be back home soon and I'll
04:03catch up on it.
04:04Well, congratulations.
04:05I have to be honest, I'm late at the party.
04:07I only watched part one yesterday.
04:09Yeah.
04:09I wasn't mentally ready just to give people context.
04:12I was here when October 7th happened and it feels very close to home when it happened.
04:17Whatever terrorist attacks have happened on India because I'm born and raised in India and then I moved to Israel.
04:22So I wasn't mentally prepared.
04:24But then yesterday I was like, you know what?
04:26This is my chance.
04:27I need to watch it.
04:27I watched it.
04:28And today I'm sitting with you having a conversation just stuck in Israel.
04:32But let's talk about Duranandar for a second.
04:34What does it mean to be a research consultant?
04:37It seems like you do research and then tell the director what to do and that's it.
04:43Can you get deep into it and tell us what exactly have you done?
04:47You know, firstly, I'll acknowledge that the entire vision, the entire project, the entire baby of Duranandar is completely credit
04:55to Adityadar.
04:56I mean, he's been a friend for a very long time.
04:58The moment that he made Uri, you know, I was in Bombay, I remember many, many years ago.
05:02I was driving.
05:03I was working on a story when he called me out of the blue and he asked me if, you
05:08know, I could help him get in touch with the Indian Army.
05:11And he was working on some film.
05:12He didn't give any more details, but he said it's on Indian Army.
05:15So I just shared a contact with him.
05:17That's about it.
05:18And connected him with the Indian Army.
05:19And a year later, he texted me and said that I've made something and I hope you will love it.
05:25And that film was Uri that came out.
05:28And then at the Army Chief's residence, he introduced me to the entire star cast of the film.
05:33And that was amazing.
05:34Uri did a huge magic in the industry.
05:37And I think, you know, there was this slogan also in that.
05:42How's the Josh?
05:43Hi, sir.
05:43How's the Josh?
05:44Hi, sir.
05:45How's the Josh?
05:46Hi, sir.
05:46That became like a national anthem all across India.
05:49So Uri is where, you know, Aditya Dhar's, you know, claim to fame began, although he had 20 years of
05:56hard work behind him.
05:57And soon after he worked on Article 370.
06:00So he took me as a consultant for Article 370 because, you know, when the Article 370 abrogation happened, I
06:05was advising the government on, you know, how things are in Kashmir and what needs to be done.
06:10So, yeah.
06:10So then I made a documentary in 22, March 22.
06:13In fact, I'll just briefly tell you, I got a call from my source in India, and then I corroborated
06:19it in Pakistan, saying that a person called Zahur Mistry has been ****ed.
06:22In fact, the name given to me was not Zahur Mistry, but something else that he used.
06:26And they told me that this person has been killed in Karachi.
06:29So why don't you check?
06:31This might be interesting for you.
06:32And it took me two to three days to verify it because I called my journalist friends in Pakistan, who
06:37later confirmed to me that a person called Zahur Mistry had been ****ed.
06:41But they were not sure who he is because the administration in Pakistan, which is the army, had asked them
06:48not to cover this, not to report this.
06:50Although I found one newsletter.
06:52Do you know why?
06:52Well, everybody knows why.
06:54Because the media in Pakistan is, you know, controlled in a massive manner and they're not, if there is something
07:00aligned with the army or the ISI, they're not asked to report that.
07:04I see.
07:04So I checked again and then I found out to my shock that Zahur Mistry was one of the hijackers
07:10of IC 814, which happened 25 years ago.
07:13And in which one Indian person was ****ed.
07:15The flight was taken from Kathmandu to Amritsar to Dubai to finally Kandahar.
07:19And after days of stalemate and NSA Ajit Doval was one of the negotiators at that time, we had to
07:25release three terrorists, three dreaded terrorists.
07:28One of them was Masood Azhar.
07:30And Masood Azhar later formed the Jaisar Mohammed in a place called Balakot, which also we struck, our Indian Air
07:36Force struck a few years ago after Bulwama.
07:38And all these three terrorists became a huge, huge challenge for India and for entire South Asia because you'd remember
07:45Daniel Pearl, a Jewish journalist who was also ****ed brutally.
07:50His video of his **** was, you know, released by a terrorist called Omar.
07:56And that Omar terrorist was also released by India at that time because of the negotiation.
08:00So Mushtaq Latram, Omar and Masood Azhar became a huge challenge for India during that time.
08:04And Zahur Mistry was one of the terrorists, one of the youngest ones who was in that aircraft at that
08:09time.
08:09And we obviously couldn't catch him.
08:11But years later, and I often say this, that NSA Ajit Doval at that time would be perhaps in his
08:1750s or something like that.
08:20And something would have, I've obviously had a lot of conversations with him.
08:23But I wonder, he would have been thinking that if I had 24 hours more or if I had 48
08:28hours more, I would have done something to protect Indian citizens
08:31and also not let these three terrorists get released.
08:35Because these three terrorists became the reason for the biggest terror attacks in India.
08:40Be it the parliament terror attack, which happened, be it the JMT Assembly attack, be it Pulwama, be it Pathan
08:46Court.
08:47Even different terror attacks that have happened in the last two decades were thanks to these dreaded Pakistani terrorists.
08:53So I made a documentary on Zahur Mistry when I came to know that he's a, you know, the person
08:57who was .
08:57And across the media, whoever I spoke to in Pakistan said they were unknown gunmen.
09:03Nobody knows who killed them.
09:04Two people came on a bike.
09:06This guy took a photograph of his dead body and just left.
09:09So I had a photograph of the dead body that I'd got from a source.
09:13And I had his old photograph.
09:14We corroborated that.
09:16There was a scientific, you know, test, etc. done.
09:18And we found out that that guy who was killed was Zahur Mistry.
09:21And he was working as a furniture shop owner, as a carpenter.
09:25So he basically went back to his civilian life.
09:29Exactly.
09:29So Pakistan Army, the ISI, had given him a cover of working as a furniture, you know, shop owner in
09:35Karachi.
09:36And so I made that documentary.
09:38And that documentary was like an investigation done from India and Pakistan, what happened, how it happened.
09:45And Aditya saw that documentary and my breaking news because a lot of Indian media, you know, quoted me when
09:51they covered this story.
09:52And he said, boss, we need to do this.
09:55Yeah.
09:55We need to make this.
09:55This is one of the finest things that have happened and people don't know about it.
10:00There's a lot of mystery around it.
10:01Right.
10:01So we decided that why not make this film?
10:04And he was already working on something, on a spy thriller, etc.
10:08Okay.
10:08And he was studying it at a massive scale.
10:10So he has a team, but he himself is so involved.
10:14You know, he's so involved.
10:15He's involved to the level of dialogues.
10:16Right.
10:17He writes dialogues.
10:18He writes lyrics.
10:20He writes screenplay.
10:21He directs.
10:22He knows the cinematography of this entire thing.
10:24So he has this passion which drives him.
10:28That is the most amazing part about him.
10:30And he's so down to earth.
10:31So that's how this project began more than three years ago.
10:34And here we are.
10:35Durandar first, which became the highest box office of all time.
10:39And now Durandar second, which is in less than three days, 400 CR, which is unthinkable
10:46in Indian cinema.
10:47And what I will say, Revital, is that what Aditya has done has, he has brought in a paradigm
10:54shift in Indian cinema.
10:55You know, after COVID, after the pandemic, people had stopped going to cinema halls.
10:59You know, they were consuming entertainment content from Netflix, from Amazon, from Hot
11:03Star, Jio, etc.
11:05But now people are willing to go.
11:08People are actually willing to go twice, thrice to watch the same film.
11:12And mind you, the first film was three and a half hours long.
11:15Correct.
11:15This one is four hours long, which is unthinkable, perhaps in Hollywood.
11:19Yeah.
11:20But here people are willing to watch it.
11:22Now, it's not just about nationalistic content, etc. that some people might be uncomfortable
11:26with.
11:26Correct.
11:27This is reality.
11:28This is a mystery that has been shrouded in four years together, which we are trying
11:32to unravel.
11:33Fiction, yes, but inspired by real events.
11:36I heard, I read a lot of news, seeing a lot of people from the Gulf actually flying into
11:40India to watch the movie.
11:41Absolutely.
11:41I have friends.
11:42I have friends who were so frustrated that across the GCC countries, across UAE, you
11:48know, across the Gulf, West Asia, we unfortunately didn't have this film getting released.
11:53I don't know why.
11:54But some people tell me that, you know, the content is against Pakistan.
11:57So it might lead to some diplomatic problems between these countries in Pakistan.
12:01So they avoid it.
12:02I see.
12:02They're not against the film as such, but they just want to avoid the controversy.
12:06I see.
12:07Yeah.
12:07I see.
12:08At what stage of filmmaking were you brought in?
12:10Was it like pre-production?
12:11Was it still like in the research stage?
12:13Because I know there's a lot of, I personally loved the movie.
12:17Like it was, I was at the edge of the seat and I'm like, oh my gosh, like I'm in
12:20Israel.
12:20So the second part has not been released yet in theaters.
12:24Of course, there's a warrior or there's, it's not on Netflix yet because it released
12:27like three days ago.
12:28But at what stage were you brought in and how do you assure the accuracy and the authenticity
12:33of, because the movie is inspired by true events, right?
12:37So how do you ensure all of that?
12:39So that's my job.
12:40That's my job.
12:42And there was another, you know, research consultant with me.
12:45That was our job.
12:46So we were brought in just when the concept came in and the research was underway to deeply
12:51study, you know, what all has happened over the years, be it terrorism emanating from
12:55Pakistan, terror groups working in Pakistan, gangs operating from Karachi, how there might
13:01be some foreign countries trying to infiltrate that particular gang and, you know, taking
13:06revenge.
13:06And apart from that counterfeit currency events that have hammered like a criminal gangster
13:12like Adik Ahmed, who was demonetization that happened a lot of attacks in the last three
13:16decades that have happened.
13:18Now, for me, I have been a victim of terrorism from Jammu and Kashmir.
13:21So that's one part of it.
13:23Aditya has been a victim of terrorism.
13:24He's a Kashmiri Pandit as well.
13:25So he has faced it.
13:26He has seen it from his own eyes.
13:28And secondly, now over the last 18 years, I have reported on terrorism.
13:32I have reported from Kashmir.
13:34I have reported on Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc.
13:36So I've studied it in greater detail, you know, from attacks from Pulwama to Uri to the
13:42latest Pathan court.
13:43I studied this.
13:45I was, in fact, the first journalist to not just break a Pahldam terror attack, but also
13:50break the Operation Sindur that happened midnight, you know, during 6th and 7th May last year.
13:55So we have to obviously study in detail, but refer to official sources to verify if this had
14:02happened, if primarily I was, you know, in touch with some primary sources, et cetera,
14:07to verify what happened, et cetera, to go through media clippings of years together, to study,
14:11to study videos, et cetera, reportage that has happened 25 years ago.
14:15And during that time, there were not many news channels.
14:18I was going to say, yeah.
14:19So it is difficult, but we ensured that.
14:22And perhaps to get in touch with some sources, you know, within the agencies and within the corridors
14:28that cannot be named.
14:29Right.
14:30That I've been doing.
14:31I cover intelligence agencies very closely.
14:33I cover security agencies, army, paramilitary very, very closely.
14:37So that helps immensely.
14:38And that helped during Operation Sindur as well, you know, drifting away from Durandar
14:42for a bit.
14:42But, you know, at that time I was continuously tweeting 24-7 and I got more than 3 lakh followers
14:48during that 10 or 15 days only because people trusted me and people thought that I am an authentic source.
14:54So I was not doing jingoism for India, et cetera, but I was reporting facts about terrorism
14:59and how India is responding on it.
15:00So for all the young Indians who want to be aspiring, could be senior executive editors
15:06or an authentic source of such information, because it's crucial, right?
15:11Because some people say, oh, like this is propaganda.
15:15We'll come to that.
15:16But what would you say to aspiring people who want to work for India in this capacity?
15:22What would you like to tell them?
15:23Not much.
15:24I mean, it doesn't take any rocket science or a PhD degree from Harvard to, you know, make
15:31up your mind.
15:32You need to be passionate and you need to have courage of having a conviction.
15:36If you have that conviction in life, if you're passionate, if you have that determination,
15:40you can make it happen.
15:43I think passion does it all, honestly.
15:45If you have your mind, you know, on anything, it's not about journalism.
15:49It's not about war reportage or conflict.
15:51It's about Aditya Dhar as well.
15:53I mean, look at him.
15:54I mean, he is not from Bollywood families.
15:57He has come from Delhi.
15:58He has struggled hard for years together.
16:01And on his own merit and hard work, he has achieved what he is achieving today.
16:04And I still hear murmurs, you know, during the first phase, there was a particular faction
16:10within the Bollywood, which was really upset and outraged that, why are we not involved?
16:14Why is this not from a big production house, et cetera, et cetera.
16:17And people were not supporting him.
16:20And people were silent.
16:21So that's how Bollywood is.
16:22There is a syndicate that works, not just in Bollywood, but overall, there's an ecosystem.
16:27Right.
16:27There's an echo chamber as well.
16:28So what they do is that, you know, oh, this is an outsider.
16:31So we will not support him.
16:33Let him do what he wants to.
16:34And he has done it.
16:35He has proven his mettle.
16:36So that's what I will tell people that, you know, I am a patriotic Indian.
16:39If I have a problem, I will question the government during the pandemic.
16:42You know, I raised a lot of questions against the government that this should have happened
16:45this way.
16:46Right.
16:46And, you know, these were the problems that government did not consider, et cetera.
16:49In a democracy, you have a right to question the government.
16:52Absolutely.
16:53Absolutely.
16:53But you also have a right to praise or provide things factually if they have happened, just
16:59as we are doing in Durantha.
17:00If there is a concern of Pakistan sponsored Islamist terrorism, we will raise concern.
17:06Now, there was a panelist recently.
17:07We had a debate on it.
17:08A lady actor from Mumbai who said that, no, you know, you're trying to show brutality
17:13and violence and I can't say violence.
17:16So don't watch it.
17:17I mean, you are in a free country.
17:19We're not forcing you to watch it.
17:20Don't watch the film.
17:21Now, this brutality is not brutality done by India.
17:24This is not a human rights violation done by India.
17:26This is Pakistan sponsored terrorism for last four decades in Jammu and Kashmir and the
17:33rest of India that we are highlighting.
17:34These are well-documented terror attacks and these are well-documented operations done
17:39by India continuously over the years.
17:41After Pulwama, we had Balakot.
17:43Before that, we had the Uri terror attack.
17:45And then we had a counter in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, a surgical strike.
17:49And most recently, Operation Sindhuru.
17:51Phenomenal.
17:52You know, what has happened also?
17:53People also say, you know, we are losing information war and this and that.
17:56I don't believe that.
17:57I think we are very well settled.
18:00What message we had to convey in preemptive strikes or whatever limited strikes we did,
18:05I think it was phenomenal.
18:07Militarily speaking, diplomatically speaking and politically speaking.
18:10You know, when surgical strikes happened and when Balakot happened, people said, video
18:14kaha hai?
18:15Why don't you have video?
18:16They wanted army persons to, you know, carry guns and videos to actually show them all.
18:21And this time around, when Operation Sindhur happened, what changed Rabatel?
18:25The one thing that changed was that we were striking deep inside Pakistan, deep inside Punjab
18:32of Pakistan or in the backyard of Asim Munir, the Pakistan army chief.
18:36And Pakistanis were clicking videos and showing it to the entire world.
18:40It was not the army.
18:41It was not the air force.
18:42It was not the military of India.
18:44It was common people in Pakistan, in Rawalpindi, in Lahore, in Karachi, in Islamabad, shooting
18:49videos and saying, we are scared.
18:51India is shooting at us.
18:52Oh my God, what will happen?
18:54Allah save us.
18:58These were the kind of videos that were coming out.
19:00Now, can Pakistan now say this is propaganda?
19:02This is disinformation?
19:03This is the reality for the first time authenticated by the common people saying that Operation Sindhur
19:09has been not just successful, but we have been decimated.
19:13Pakistan has been decimated completely.
19:15So they've got a strong response.
19:16But also, lastly, Pakistan won't change.
19:18You know, we might make Durandar, Durandar 2, Durandar 3, Durandar 4, but Pakistan is
19:23not going to change.
19:24We might do Operation Sindhur and Operation Sindhur 2.
19:27But the reality is in their DNA, you know, their entire existence of their foreign policy
19:33or domestic policy is on India.
19:34If they don't attack India, if the army does not focus on India, nobody will say that
19:39they are relevant.
19:40They will not get the same respect.
19:42If you do a survey of the Pakistan army before and after the Pahalgam terror attack,
19:46you will see they were losing respect.
19:49They were losing national consensus completely before Pahalgam.
19:52Once Pahalgam happened, they again united the nation.
19:55So, Pakistan army does this deliberately.
19:57Whenever in their backyard in Palochistan, Khaybat, Pakhtunwa, there are attacks happening.
20:02People are rebelling for freedom from the Pakistani occupation.
20:04They tried to do a Pahalgam or a Pulwama to completely shift international focus towards Kashmir.
20:10I honestly feel like India and Israel both.
20:13I'm talking from both aspects because I'm an Indian Jew again, born and raised in India,
20:18now living in Israel.
20:19What I see between both countries is that we are now on offense.
20:23I think we should do more offense than defense because I think we, both Indians and Israelis,
20:27are sick of being attacked and constantly thinking that we are going to lose the information war.
20:32But it is about survival now.
20:34And if we don't do anything right now, it is eventually going to be very bad for both countries.
20:40So, I strongly support the attacks of India on Pakistan and all the terrorists.
20:47I mean, we need to take revenge.
20:49I also, I loved, you said there were two popular lines from the movie that I really liked.
20:53You mentioned one from Ori, but the two lines that I liked from Durandar,
20:57one was,
21:02Absolutely, yes.
21:04And the second one was,
21:05New India, right?
21:06New India, right?
21:07New India, right?
21:07New India, right?
21:07We're going to hit the house.
21:08Absolutely.
21:09And we need to do this.
21:10Because if we haven't done it, it will never happen.
21:13Indians have been the most accommodative,
21:15but there have been instances that people have walked all over India.
21:20What would you like to say to people who say this is a propaganda movie?
21:23You know, first, before I come to the propaganda part,
21:26since you mentioned Israel,
21:28you know, one thing that I absolutely love about your country, Israel,
21:31is that whenever there's a terror attack,
21:34whenever there is a question being raised on the sovereignty
21:37or the territorial integrity of Israel,
21:39there is national unity.
21:41You know, there is no opposition leader coming and saying,
21:44What is this?
21:45What is the government doing?
21:46This is nonsense.
21:48Show us evidence.
21:49This is not done, you know, in like, you know, in India.
21:52We see that repeatedly.
21:54Now, again, I'll emphasize,
21:56the right of the opposition is to criticize,
21:59question the government,
22:00take them to task, absolutely should be done.
22:02Like Lepid does here, Netanyahu.
22:05And Rahul Gandhi tries to do it, you know, with Prime Minister Modi.
22:08But the question is, whenever there is a terror attack,
22:10there needs to be national unity.
22:12You know, whenever there is a terror attack against innocent Indians,
22:16there have to be all political parties aligned and stand together.
22:20Now, I met Lepid at one of the kibbutz,
22:22when I went to Northern Israel,
22:23and I asked him that what do you feel about the, you know,
22:26the war with Iran and you know,
22:27Oh, this was quite recently.
22:29Just a few days back.
22:29Okay.
22:30And what do you think about,
22:31because we were just 1.5 kilometers away from the northern border,
22:34and we could hear gunfire.
22:35So he said, absolutely, I support the government,
22:38and we have to completely annihilate Hezbollah on Lebanon,
22:43and the Iranian regime in his words.
22:46So that is the thing that I absolutely love,
22:50that whenever your state is under attack,
22:54and there is a terror attack,
22:55and when people say that our mission is to annihilate the Jews,
23:00and from river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
23:03And they don't realize that you are not looking for a political solution.
23:08You are not looking for a dialogue where a political solution can be arrived at.
23:11You are instead saying that we will kill the last of the Jews,
23:14and we will completely wipe you out,
23:17and then we will create our own territory.
23:19Now, what is happening with Pakistan?
23:21Pakistan is doing the same.
23:22Before Pahal Gaan, there was a video of Asim Munir that went viral,
23:26where he said, these are Hindus who are attacking us.
23:29These are Hindus, and we have to lead a jihad against these Hindus.
23:34This is the kind of terminology that came in.
23:36Now, their focus, look at the location of Israel, you know,
23:40they are surrounded by Islamic countries,
23:42but they have great ties with many of them,
23:44UAE, Saudi, in many other countries as well.
23:48In fact, I have heard that after the recent attacks,
23:51now, governments may deny this, but I will tell you,
23:53I have heard that when UAE came under attack,
23:56and they did not have any alarm systems, etc.,
23:59they were in a crisis mode,
24:00and perhaps the rulers in UAE would have never,
24:03even in their imagination or dreams thought that this will happen someday.
24:07And they reached out to Israel for the emergency mechanism support.
24:12The alerts?
24:13How the alerts could be done, and what kind of alerts,
24:16how and when could it happen.
24:18Really?
24:19I have heard that.
24:20UAE government or the Israel government can confirm that,
24:23but that's what I have heard.
24:24And if that kind of an alignment is happening right now,
24:28that clearly means that Abraham Accords have, you know,
24:31gone too far in a positive direction.
24:33Uh-huh.
24:33And perhaps, after the war is over,
24:35there could be an alignment with Saudi and several other countries,
24:38because what Iran has also done, you know,
24:40I'll say that, you know, India has great ties with Iran and Israel,
24:44and that will continue.
24:45Uh-huh.
24:45And we have condemned the attacks that happened in the school,
24:48in Minab, Minab Elementary School,
24:50and the energy infrastructure that's being attacked,
24:52because when such attacks happen,
24:54it doesn't concern only Iran or Israel or U.S.,
24:57it is the global community that suffers.
24:58There are many Indians who have died also in this war,
25:01mostly seafarers.
25:02Yes.
25:02So, my, you know, question here is that
25:06you can't say that we'll wipe you out completely,
25:09your community, your religion, etc.,
25:12and then expect no response.
25:13Uh-huh.
25:14So, on terrorism, I think we are aligned with Israel
25:16when it comes to counter-terrorism efforts,
25:18when it comes to intelligence sharing,
25:20when it comes to strategic partnership,
25:22technology, innovation, agriculture and water 100%.
25:25Uh-huh.
25:25So, I think we've come a long way.
25:27Uh-huh.
25:27As I said, this is my fifth visit.
25:29Uh-huh.
25:29The first one was in 2015,
25:30when I accompanied President Pranam Mukherjee,
25:32Uh-huh.
25:32Uh-huh.
25:33To this country.
25:34Uh-huh.
25:34And I have, in the last 11 to 12 years,
25:36seen a phenomenal change.
25:38Uh-huh.
25:38How things have been different.
25:40I'll also tell you that, uh,
25:42during that time, almost 10 years ago,
25:45uh, I'll not name the person,
25:46but a senior diplomat of Israel,
25:48I tried to ask him a question on Pakistan.
25:50Uh-huh.
25:50Uh-huh.
25:51And he stood up,
25:52and he started screaming at me,
25:53that how dare you ask a question on Pakistan with me?
25:56And this is not done.
25:57Uh-huh.
25:58And so, this was 10 years ago.
26:00Uh-huh.
26:01Where a senior diplomat was upset,
26:03because he didn't want to intervene in this kind of a scenario,
26:06just like India wouldn't want to intervene in Hamas, Gaza, etc.
26:09So, he didn't want to speak on it.
26:10So, he was on that kind of a corner.
26:19Uh-huh.
26:20Uh-huh.
26:20That, are you comfortable with Pakistan Army
26:23as a part of the international stabilization force
26:26that comes into play in Gaza?
26:28And he said, no.
26:29We do not want Pakistan Army
26:31to be part of the international stabilization force,
26:33and we will oppose it tooth and nail to the US.
26:36Uh-huh.
26:37This is the kind of change that has happened.
26:39India and Israel are on the same page
26:42when it comes to counter-terrorism.
26:44We have great ties with Iran.
26:46We have traditional historic ties with Iran.
26:48Uh-huh.
26:49I think that go back to decades and decades together.
26:52In many ways, we eat the same kind of food as well
26:54in many parts of the country.
26:56Uh-huh.
26:56And I think from India's standpoint,
26:59the stand that we have taken is absolutely right.
27:02Uh-huh.
27:02We say that there should be de-escalation.
27:05Uh-huh.
27:05There needs to be peace that needs to be restored.
27:08And war cannot be there forever.
27:10You have to ultimately come up a dialogue table.
27:12Uh-huh.
27:13And you have to pursue peace in the larger interest of the people.
27:17So that's how it should be.
27:19On the propaganda part that you told me,
27:21I think every time you do something in national interest,
27:25especially when it concerns security of your nation, et cetera,
27:28there will be these people who will say,
27:29this is a propaganda.
27:30Yeah.
27:31Yeah.
27:31Yeah.
27:32Yeah.
27:32Yeah.
27:33Like a couple of days ago, I was in, you know, on a panel discussion on my channel,
27:38with somebody, a lady actor.
27:39And she said that, you know, there's this very famous Major Mohit Sharma,
27:44who was in the Indian Army.
27:45His photos, videos, his bravery is very viral.
27:48And there was somebody spread this rumor that this film is,
27:50Duran Dar is based on Major Mohit Sharma.
27:52So she tried to counter me saying that, you know,
27:55Major Mohit Sharma was working in Pakistan and this and that.
27:59And I said, boss, you don't even know the basic facts.
28:01Indian Army does not operate in Pakistan.
28:04Indian Army operates on Indian soil.
28:07Indian Army works in Kashmir and other parts of the country.
28:09And Major Mohit Sharma was also in North Kashmir,
28:13where he sacrificed his life for the country.
28:15The film is not based on Major Mohit Sharma.
28:18Film is based on a spy or in, you know,
28:22a covert operation leader who was in Pakistan.
28:24The film is based on reality.
28:26It's based on facts.
28:28It's inspired by reality.
28:30And if you are not comfortable with it, don't watch it.
28:33Yeah.
28:33I don't think that any person who's involved with the film
28:37has anything to do with BJP, RSS or the Modi government
28:40wouldn't have even met any political leaders for this film.
28:45But, you know, such attacks will happen.
28:47Yeah.
28:48My only response to those people who attack Dorender
28:51is that look at the public reaction.
28:53If you cannot sense the pulse of the people,
28:56then God help you.
28:57I agree.
28:59If you're a politician or if you're anybody with any ideology
29:02on a subject of national security, you should unite.
29:05Now you might say, no, no, you're praising Modi.
29:07You're doing this.
29:08We're presenting facts.
29:10Demonetization happened.
29:11Now, this is not a documentary on demonetization
29:13that we show that people were suffering, etc.
29:15I suffered myself.
29:17I was also standing in that queue, etc.
29:19I think everybody was.
29:20Everybody was.
29:21Definitely.
29:21Now, this is not, this is on counter-terrorism.
29:23So we will say why, you know, demonetization was required.
29:26There was a lot of black money.
29:28There was a lot of fake currency.
29:29There was counterfeit currency used for terrorism.
29:31Now you say, you show the killing of Atik Ahmed.
29:35Now, Atik Ahmed was a criminal gangster.
29:38He confessed to having links with Pakistan.
29:40He confessed to having links with Lashkar-e-Taiba.
29:43He's not a saint.
29:44So who are you trying to protect?
29:46In my capacity as a researcher, I tried to factually correct.
29:49All these things we go, went through the entire storyboard.
29:53And I think Aditya has done a phenomenal job.
29:55You know, all this criticism is part of the story.
29:57Last time when this criticism happened from people I don't want to name, I think it gave
30:02a great publicity to the film.
30:03I was going to say, I mean, all talk is good talk.
30:06Yeah.
30:06Because, you know, Aditya has also done something very different, which many people in India
30:10don't like.
30:10He has not done any PR campaigns or publicity stunts or publicity for this film, which is rare.
30:16I was going to say, I didn't see any media talks before the release of the first one.
30:21Yes.
30:21I have done interviews, although I don't cover entertainment.
30:24But when there is a subject of national security, et cetera, some filmmakers come to TV studios,
30:29et cetera, and they want me to interview them because I understand the subject.
30:32So I've done countless interviews.
30:34My other entertainment editors or entertainment editors all across have done dozens and hundreds
30:39of such interviews countless times.
30:41But for this, there was no major events that happened.
30:45There was no major premiere that happened, red carpet premiere, et cetera.
30:48There were no media interviews that happened.
30:51You haven't seen Ranveer Singh or Aditya Dar or others in media studios, you know, coming
30:56for interviews.
30:57They want the people to respond.
30:59People have responded.
31:01I think the entire Bharatwarsh has spoken and we thank them.
31:05We are delighted that you are loving the film.
31:07That's, I really had to say, I was like yesterday, I was like, oh my gosh, like, why
31:10didn't I see this before?
31:11But I think I always talk about great timing.
31:14I also want to talk about the, because you were two of you as research consultants on
31:20the team.
31:21Yeah.
31:21Would you like to throw some spotlight on the second person who I believe is Dibya S?
31:27Yeah.
31:27Would you like?
31:28I'm glad you noticed.
31:29Because nobody seems to have noticed Dibya with me.
31:32Yeah.
31:33But yes, there is one more person, Dibya, who is an integral part of the research team.
31:39And I thank him for his service, for this very, very critical and important project.
31:44Hopefully in some time in future, he will come out in public and speak and people can,
31:49you know, interview him.
31:50But for reasons of security and sensitivity involved, he has not come out.
31:58But he is a very, very critical and integral part of the filmmaking process, just like unknown
32:06men are for the killings that are happening in Pakistan.
32:10I see.
32:11Well, Dibya S, if you're listening to this episode, I want to give you a hats off because
32:16I think clearly it's a team effort.
32:19Absolutely.
32:19And hopefully I could get to meet you in person.
32:23But coming to Durandar 2, a lot of people tag me in their stories because there's a part
32:28at the end of the video where they see an Israeli man, a Jewish man, because he's visibly
32:33Jewish, wears a kippah.
32:35I haven't watched the movie, but I wouldn't mind if you give me a spoiler.
32:39Oh, no.
32:40People are killing me.
32:41You know, from the very beginning, last three days, I've been continuously putting out,
32:46you know, whatever stories people are sharing and telling me.
32:49So I'm putting across and people are abusing me.
32:51Don't put spoilers.
32:52Don't do this for us.
32:53We are blocking you on Instagram.
32:55This is not done.
32:56So I will not give any spoilers.
32:58Oh my God.
32:59I would want people to watch it.
33:00But yes, a part of what you said is there.
33:03And there are a lot of twists and turns in the film.
33:06If you assess me, you know, people are loving Ranveer Singh.
33:09Yeah.
33:09People obviously have loved Akshay Khanna.
33:11I think this is a rebirth of Akshay Khanna in many ways, who I have always admired.
33:15He's amazing.
33:16And of course, Armadavan.
33:18I mean, Armadavan is quite a person when he, you know, acts in that Ajit Doval case.
33:23Yeah.
33:23Actually has studied the profile and he's bang on Ajit Doval.
33:27And of course, there are others like Arjun Rampal, who, you know, in that ISI role that he is in.
33:33He's amazing.
33:34But for me, honestly, the best actor in the film is Rakesh Bedi.
33:39Rakesh Bedi, who I've watched for since my childhood.
33:42You know, he was part of this serial called Sriman Srimati.
33:45It used to come many, many years ago and people used to be glued on it.
33:50And he also has reinvented himself.
33:52He had a small role in one of the previous films that Ajit Doval did.
33:55But in this one, the character that he has is ultimate.
34:00He's a comedian, ace comedian of India.
34:02But in this film, the kind of natural comedy that comes in.
34:07And in many of the things he has improvised himself.
34:09He has told him that, you know, let me do this this way.
34:12And that has clicked and people are loving it.
34:14And there are, you know, many twists and turns that come in the film.
34:18But Rakesh Bedi's twists and turns that comes at the end and people are like, what?
34:24Really?
34:25So I won't give any spoilers, but people will love the film.
34:28I love the fact that you dodged this question.
34:31But let me ask you this in a different way.
34:33Yeah.
34:33I know India and Israel have had ties way, way before, as we see it in the movie as well.
34:37But where do you see?
34:38I know a lot of people ask me as an Indian Israeli saying that, especially Israelis ask me like,
34:44India is friends with Arab countries and it's also friends with Israel.
34:48Yeah.
34:48Like, what is it doing?
34:50Why is it doing?
34:51Why isn't it siding with anybody?
34:53And I'm like, India, in my opinion, India, it took India a while to be its own person
34:59because we went through a lot of challenges, be it through colonialism or Mughal invasion
35:06and stuff like that.
35:07It took a long time.
35:08It also took time because the leadership had to change.
35:11Yeah.
35:12But India is going to do what works best in their interest.
35:16But the India-Israel relationship is not hush-hush anymore.
35:21India publicly claims that it is good friends with Israel.
35:24So where do you see India-Israel ties going in the next decade?
35:28Well, on your question of, you know, entertainment, first I'll come to that.
35:35You know the series Fodha.
35:36Yes.
35:37So I think Fodha has been the biggest hit in India.
35:40There is an Indian adaptation as well.
35:42There is.
35:43And that has been, you know, directed and produced by one of my friends, Kapil Mattu.
35:48He's done an amazing job in that series.
35:51But on Fodha, I'll tell you, I've been in touch with two of the actors, Zaki and Ronali Shimon.
35:58And last year I got an opportunity to host Ronali Shimon in Mumbai.
36:02And that was phenomenal.
36:03You know, she was expecting and yet she came along with her mother.
36:07And that meant a lot.
36:09So as a parting gift, I gave her a statue of Goddess Durga.
36:15Because, you know, I told her that this will bless the child that you'll have.
36:19So I think Fodha has been a phenomenal success.
36:21And Fodha also met Prime Minister Narendra Modi recently.
36:24I know.
36:24As you were there.
36:25What just happened?
36:27It's not undercover anymore.
36:29So India and Israel are coming together.
36:31People are also loving that other series called Tehran, which is on Apple TV.
36:35Earlier there was Homeland that was loved.
36:37But anyway, so sticking to India and Israel, I think there is a lot that can happen.
36:41The last Council General, Kobi, who was in Mumbai, I think did phenomenal in not just interacting with Bollywood,
36:48but trying to bring them here and shoot here and do many projects in collaboration.
36:54I think there have been some filmmakers who have been very, very interested.
36:58Even Saki from, you know, Fodha came to India and I think he's working on some film with some Indian
37:05director or producer.
37:06So I think a lot can happen.
37:07A lot will happen.
37:09Here also I've been interacting with the political leadership and they want the film industry to explore Israel for shoot
37:14location, etc.
37:15And they're ready to offer whatever can be done from the government perspective.
37:20So I think a lot can happen.
37:21A lot will happen in the coming days.
37:24So, yeah.
37:25That's awesome.
37:25And my last and the final question is, I've read a lot of news and people jokingly say that you're
37:31probably, because you're in Israel, you're working on Durandar part 3.
37:34What do you have to say about that?
37:36Well, you never know.
37:37Because Durandar first was expected as a single film.
37:42Then the screenplay was scripted in such a manner.
37:46And Aditya goes through very intricate details from scripting to the storyboards, etc.
37:51And he has a wonderful team.
37:53He has an AD called Ojas Gautam, who is Yami Gautam's brother.
37:57Oh, really?
37:58Yeah.
37:58And he's amazing.
37:59But it's in the family, huh?
38:00He works 24-7.
38:02Ojas has been like a driving force for this entire film and he's done amazing.
38:06I know Monal also, who's in the writing team and, you know, has been working on it.
38:12So, I think you never know if a Durandar 3 comes or a different kind of a film comes because
38:17this is a kind of a genre now, which Aditya has, you know, led.
38:23And this is a new kind of a cinema.
38:25I would call it a global cinema from India.
38:27Because it's not just Indians who are loving it.
38:30From US to UK to Australia, people are loving it all across.
38:34I mean, if it's not in Middle East, I would say it is the loss of Middle East that people
38:38are...
38:39Missing out.
38:39People are forced to either come to India to watch it in a cinema hall or actually watch it, you
38:45know, the pirated copy.
38:46I have had people messaging from UE, first writing, Apologies, Aditya, for this message.
38:52But we, I really wanted to text you.
38:54I just watched Durandar sitting here in Dubai on a pirated, you know, origin that came in.
38:59I'm sorry, I had no other option, but loved it.
39:02Congratulations.
39:03It was superb, amazing.
39:04Similarly, and you'd be surprised, Pakistan, a senior journalist in the Jung group of Pakistan, Khalid.
39:10Khalid, he texted me his, from his living room, a photograph of video of Durandar playing on his channel, on
39:17his television.
39:19And that's a pirated copy.
39:20And that was on the day when Durandar released in India.
39:23No way.
39:24Yes.
39:24That's crazy.
39:25And it has been reported.
39:27Once I tweeted that video from Khalid, it's been all across the Indian media.
39:32Hmm.
39:32So in Pakistan, people, the radicals, the army, the government may oppose Indian cinema, ban it, etc.
39:40But the reality is, the Pakistanis cannot live without Indian cinema, Indian music, Indian songs, Indian food.
39:46Hmm.
39:47So that's how it is.
39:48I mean, Durandar has been doing amazing in the piracy market as well, which I don't encourage.
39:53But in Pakistan, that's how it is.
39:55I see.
39:55And you never know.
39:57I think Aditya Dar is on this kind of a speedboat right now.
40:00Hmm.
40:00So I think, and the best part about him is that he comes from a very normal middle class Kashmiri
40:06Pandit family.
40:07And he's very down to earth.
40:09Hmm.
40:10Normally, if you would see, have seen at Starcade, etc.
40:13He would have bodyguards all across and, you know, rooming around in Mercedes and, you know, Bentleys and all.
40:19And then giving interviews all across, going on trips all across.
40:23But he is grounded to such a level.
40:26It's simply amazing.
40:27It's just, I think he's enjoying it with his family.
40:30Hmm.
40:30And that's what matters for him to provide a new kind of cinema to the world to prove that we
40:37can also provide global cinema from India.
40:40I think he will inspire hundreds and thousands of Indians in different categories, not just becoming a director or a
40:46producer.
40:47Hmm.
40:47And I think his B62 studios, which has provided such amazing films and now Duranthar, is now among the top
40:54producers of India.
40:55And just imagine, if he has created Duranthar, what else is he capable to create?
41:01Well, we're all waiting because I'm like, okay, what do you have next in line to show?
41:05So congratulations to the entire team, to Aditya Dhar, to you and to your fellow research consultant and to all
41:13the actors who have acted in the movie.
41:14I'm in Israel, but I am a proud Indian at the end of the day.
41:17And I can't wait to recommend this movie to Israelis because I think they'll absolutely love it.
41:23And I think they'll also relate because we have similar challenges.
41:27Actually, something else that came to mind, which I would like to cover, are the 26-11 attacks.
41:33I saw the screen go red with black text on it.
41:38There were conversations recorded between the terrorist handlers and the hostages.
41:42I would like to shed spotlight on the Khabad house attack, right, where the rabbi and his wife were killed,
41:51but his child was actually saved by his Indian nanny.
41:55Would you be able to, because I know there were actual recordings of the terrorist and the nanny.
42:02Yes.
42:02And he told her to keep her mouth shut.
42:04Otherwise, you know, she would not live another day to, you know, experience Shabbat.
42:10Would you be able to give some more details on what exactly went down?
42:14Yeah, absolutely.
42:15I've reported on this.
42:1726-11 has been one of the most brutal chapters of terrorism in India.
42:21It was launched by the Pakistani terror group Lashkar-e-Toiba, led by Hafiz Saeed and Lakhi.
42:26And there were several of these terrorists that came through sea to Mumbai in 2008.
42:32And they attacked the Taj Hotel.
42:35They attacked, you know, prominent places in Kolapa and the CST terminal and several other locations across South Mumbai.
42:42Their basic agenda was to do maximum killings and create a kind of a fair psychosis and drive attention to
42:50whatever they wanted.
42:51So, but they're also at a cover.
42:53So, they were wearing these Hindu, you know, threads, red threads that we wear to showcase that, you know, maybe
43:00it's an internal kind of a terror attack.
43:02And that's how there was a huge debate in India also that were these Pakistani terrorists or what was happening.
43:07So, they were trying to cover.
43:09Also, what happened was that Khawad House, the main Jewish place in Mumbai, came under attack.
43:15And there were several people who were killed out there.
43:18The NSG did a massive operation to ultimately kill the terrorists.
43:22But later, we came to know the audio recordings that came in.
43:26So, in Pakistan, there were two people, Sajid Mir, Lakhi, and also Major Iqbal from the ISI.
43:33They were in touch directly with the terrorists.
43:35What was also happening is that they were monitoring Indian news channels closely who were showing live Khawad House and
43:41saying that, you know, the NSG is here, the police is here, do this, do that.
43:45So, Sajid Mir and others were directing the terrorists to kill all the Jews.
43:50There is an audio recording where, you know, the direction comes, let kill them.
43:55So, there were voices begging to save, not to kill, etc.
43:58But immediately, Sajid Mir orders in that phone call in the most brutal fashion that killed these guys immediately.
44:05But NSG did a fantastic operation.
44:08I have interviewed, in fact, the commander of the NSG who was leading that operation is in Delhi and now
44:13retired.
44:14But I think that was a phenomenal operation, even though there were a lot of questions on the speed with
44:19which the government reacted at that time could have been much, much, much better.
44:22In one case, you know, they were waiting for the home minister to come in Delhi so that the NSG
44:27could fly to Mumbai.
44:28They shouldn't have waited for him.
44:30But yes, this was one of the most brutal chapters and this has been narrated in Durandar.
44:36It was important because at that time also, there was discussion in the Indian government that we could strike Mureetke,
44:43which is the headquarters of Lashkar-e-Toiba in Pakistan.
44:45But no attack was done. The former NSA of that time, Shiv Shankar Menon writes in his book that it
44:52was a political decision.
44:53We had option from the military and the intelligence to strike Mureetke.
44:58But the government of that day took a call, the Congress government, that we will not go ahead with the
45:03attack because this will ruin the relations between India and Pakistan.
45:06So that's how it is. Now we are living in a different world, which is very important. We have to
45:11be offensive. We can't, you know, just sit every time there's a terror attack.
45:17There has to be a response that has to be given. I face threats regularly, but it doesn't matter.
45:22I was going to say, I mean, for somebody who's been on media for the longest time and openly, unapologetically
45:28speaks his mind, it can be dangerous sometimes.
45:32Yeah, it's dangerous. But, you know, how long will you stay silent? Also that. I mean, what maximum will they
45:37do? They will kill me. I mean, that's okay. But at least I'll die, you know, narrating the truth.
45:41So the reality of the matter is that, you know, terrorism led to exodus of my family from Kashmir. I
45:47lost my family, lost my community, lost our homeland forever.
45:51I do not know when my community will get the chance to return to Kashmir. So home is gone already.
45:56We are living in exile in our own homeland. Yeah. So I don't care. I will speak the truth on
46:02terrorism, etc.
46:03You know, the moment I came here and I reported on Netanyahu and I was the first Indian journalist to
46:08actually catch Netanyahu at Bet Shemesh.
46:10I was going to say, you were on point because he was at the scene where the ballistic missile was
46:16hit.
46:16Yeah. So I was coming from interviewing the foreign minister, Saar. I was doing an interview with him at the
46:21foreign ministry.
46:22So I came in and my local journalist told me that we can go to Bet Shemesh. It's just 10
46:27minutes away. I said, yes, why not? Because there was a huge, brutal attack that had happened.
46:32Yes. And nine people had died and more than 40 injured. So the moment we reached there, there was a
46:37lot of security out there, which was unusual.
46:39The Israeli journalist told me that never happens this way. Yeah. They're doing such a massive checking.
46:43And then while I was recording my walkthrough from there, suddenly we saw Netanyahu right behind us doing a review
46:49of the entire place.
46:50So he spoke to the Hebrew media first and then I butted in and said that, would you speak? I'm
46:55an Indian journalist.
46:55He refused and he walked away. And just before he was about to board his car and walk towards his
47:00car, I screamed again that at least speak on your conversation with your friend, Prime Minister Modi that you had.
47:06So he heard Modi. So he came back and he spoke to me for two minutes where he said that,
47:10yeah, he had a phone call with Modi.
47:12He discussed the regional situation and he said that we appreciate and love India for the kind of support Prime
47:19Minister Modi has given.
47:20And he said that people in Israel absolutely draw and respect people in India.
47:24So immediately after that, around seven, eight days later, somebody in Pakistan decided to run a disinformation campaign against me.
47:32So there was a Pakistani website that did a story saying that Aditya Rajkoll, an Indian journalist, has leaked the
47:38location of Netanyahu.
47:39And Iran has done a strike for Netanyahu and Netanyahu has been killed.
47:44This is how this entire rumor of Netanyahu's, you know, alleged killing or assassination happened.
47:50Is he dead or alive, started from there?
47:51So my video went viral all across.
47:54Some Iranian like Tasneem News Agency in Iran ran my video saying that I'm an Israeli journalist who leaked the
48:01location of Netanyahu and he was killed.
48:03Well, you do look Israeli, so.
48:04Oh, yeah, that happens a lot.
48:06You know, funnily, when I come to Israel, people start speaking to me in Hebrew.
48:10In Hebrew.
48:10When I am in UAE, they start to be speaking in the local language.
48:14Yeah.
48:14And when I was in Armenia recently, they again started speaking.
48:17So that happens.
48:18Maybe it helps.
48:19But you blend in everywhere.
48:20But as I said, I think I told you last time as well.
48:22The first time I went to Iraq via Jordan and I was only 24 at that time.
48:26So the only lines that I had learned Arabic was, I hope I pronounce it right, right now.
48:33That means don't shoot.
48:36I'm a journalist.
48:37Oh, my God.
48:37Lifesaver.
48:38So I got Netanyahu.
48:41This rumor was spread.
48:42And when Netanyahu then came in and gave a video, etc.
48:45So it got busted.
48:46Then they ran a campaign saying that Aditya Raj Kool has been arrested by the Mossad because he leaked the
48:51location of Netanyahu.
48:52So across Pakistani media, across Iranian media, I am told somewhere in Europe also, because Reuters came in touch with
48:59me to interview me on what has happened.
49:02And in India also, who know me, are spreading this hatred and this fake information.
49:08So I think we are in war situation here in the Middle East.
49:12But disinformation and propaganda is the biggest war right now.
49:15Because people simply believe it.
49:17I have family members from across the world texting me.
49:19Have you been arrested?
49:20What's wrong?
49:20What happened?
49:21Why did you leak the location?
49:22I'm like, boss.
49:23I was not even doing live reportage from there.
49:25I recorded something which I sent to office an hour later and it was played an hour later.
49:30But that's the reality of propaganda that happens all across.
49:33And here also, people are simply not able to believe that Netanyahu is alive.
49:37They are still saying that all these are AI videos.
49:39Even though he came from a press conference in front of the international media where I was invited as well.
49:44You know, they say, no, these are AI videos.
49:47He has six fingers and his coffee is not spilling and this and that.
49:50All rubbish.
49:52Well, Aditya, thank you for debunking everything and for being on the ground.
49:58Because it has really been hard for Israel to speak their truth.
50:02So, when we have journalists like you on the ground telling the truth, especially the Indian media.
50:08Because I know Indian mainstream, like super mainstream media can be a little bit problematic in terms of how information
50:14gets fed to people.
50:16Yeah.
50:16So, thank you for being on the ground.
50:17I know you're stuck, but you've been doing your best.
50:20I'm not stuck anymore.
50:21So, I was stuck immediately because I, you know, when I reached the airport, immediately at that time, there was
50:27sirens.
50:28I saw your story.
50:29I immediately made that video.
50:30Yes.
50:30I remember.
50:31My presence of mind, I made that video.
50:32And we were the first to go live all across because I got information that attacks have happened on Iran
50:37and then the sirens buzzed.
50:39So, we were live continuously.
50:40But immediately after that, I decided that I have to stay.
50:44I could have probably gone to Jordan or Egypt and left.
50:47But I've been here for 27 days and I love it.
50:50I mean, Indians are loved in Israel.
50:52Israelis are loved in India.
50:54Some people may be uncomfortable with it.
50:56That's their business.
50:57But lastly, I'll give you a breaking news.
50:59Okay, I'm ready.
51:00The Israeli government has got in touch with me to screen Durandar in Israel.
51:04No way.
51:05Yeah.
51:05So, they wanted to help out in this entire process.
51:08And I have some Indians as well who are really keen for this to happen.
51:11Now, it cannot happen immediately, unfortunately, because there's a war.
51:14Yeah.
51:14And there is, of course, a rule here that more than 50 people cannot be at a single place.
51:20And I think the theaters are shut as well.
51:22Yeah.
51:22As per the Homefront Command instructions.
51:24But hopefully in future, fingers crossed, Durandar in Israel.
51:27Oh my gosh.
51:28Is there a way where I can get involved in the entire process?
51:31Why not?
51:32Of course.
51:32Okay.
51:32Let's talk this off camera.
51:33But thank you for giving us this breaking news.
51:36I think this is the perfect end to this episode.
51:39For everybody who tuned in, thank you so much.
51:41I think I had the perfect opportunity to interview somebody from the Durandar team.
51:47And also a very dear friend and brother.
51:49But thank you once again.
51:51I hope you reach India safe and sound.
51:54And in the meantime, stay safe.
51:57Watch the right content.
51:58And I'll see you next time.
51:59Thank you, Revital.
52:01Jai Hind.
52:02Ami Israel Khai.
52:03Ami Israel Khai.
52:04And Jai Bharat.
52:06Ami Israel Khai.
52:07Ami Israel Khai.
52:10Ami Israel Khai.
52:12Ami Israel Khai.
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