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00:03Connor. Yes. We hear you love languages and accents. Other than Russian, what's your favorite?
00:10Ooh, I'm kind of always switching between languages. Right now, I really want to learn
00:16Spanish. I'm from West Texas, so I've always heard Spanish. And living in LA, there's Spanish
00:21everywhere. So it doesn't feel very, like, exotic to me because I've heard it my whole life, but
00:27I think it's, I think it's sexy. Spanish is muy sexy. Yes, Colombian Spanish, I think, is the
00:36sexiest language there is. I like the traditional Spain-Spanish. Spain-Spanish. Vamos a la playa
00:41de Barcelona. Barcelona. Con Javier Baedén. Yeah. Ana de Armas. Ana de Armas. She's Cuban,
00:50right? She's Cuban. Okay. Pretty girl. Okay. This year marks 20 years since Brokeback Mountain.
00:56Are there any MM romance movies, shows, or books that have really stuck with you either
01:01growing up or recently? Well, I love Brokeback Mountain. It was one of the first things that
01:05you told me. Yeah. I love, Keith Ledger plays Ennis. I still think it's his best work. I think
01:11that was one of the first pivotal ones when you have two leading men take on, you know,
01:17gay cowboys. It's pretty bold. But then, you know, you have Call Me By Your Name, Moonlight,
01:22I think with Barry Jenkins saying, bringing the art house to the hood is what he said.
01:27That was already just a beautiful juxtaposition. And then having, you know, he said he wanted
01:33to redefine masculinity with that movie, which I thought was so cool.
01:36Yeah. Call Me By Your Name, I think, was like pretty revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah. I was in high
01:41school at that time. And I remember that being the first thing that felt like it was really a part
01:46of the cultural zeitgeist. And it also handled, like, it also handled queer stories in a really
01:53cool way where it was so under the surface and it made it so human, you know, which I think
01:59also
01:59was kind of like a moonlight scenario where we're taking these people in such a specific time and
02:05place and like letting them explore love. Right. What does SMUT mean to you?
02:14I'm going to try to make an acronym. Sexy. This is going to be in relation to, um,
02:20into, uh, Ember and Ice. Um, sexy. Magic. Um, universe.
02:30universe?
02:31T..
02:32T..
02:32T..
02:32T.
02:33T..
02:34T.
02:35T.
02:36The..
02:39I have no idea.
02:41What did I say?
02:41Sexy.
02:42Magic.
02:43Universe.
02:46Um...
02:47Titillating.
02:48Yeah.
02:49Yeah, we'll do that.
02:50Titillating.
02:51Oh, you very publicly shot your shot for Nightwang.
02:54Uh, which was extremely fun to watch.
02:57have you been a dc fan and what is it like to see fans instantly rally behind you especially the
03:02ones that say you have the face the talent and the butt i will be completely honest i when i
03:09saw
03:09like some fan art of you as nightwing i was like blown away whoa like i i i mean you
03:16never know if
03:17that's going to come to fruition or not but yeah i see like someone did you in the comic book
03:21style
03:22i was like i see it right away wow yeah i would i would love to play him i love
03:27dc i love um i loved
03:30all like comic books that were true to the source material um and i think you know there are a
03:40lot
03:40of good filmmakers who like bring their own style to these you know beloved um um comics that i think
03:47it would be really great to work with them you know i'm not fully set on nightwing you know i'm
03:52open to other things um did you always want to be in like did is superheroes no always something that's
03:59been like i absolutely not it's just it's when really good filmmaker it's it's filmmaker driven
04:06so when like a guy like james gunn um or matt reeves you know comes to comics it i think
04:12that's what
04:12draws me um and and i heard james gunn is doing the the teen titans i know there's yeah but
04:19yeah
04:21james gunn he's in love with you true or false hudson is more like ilia in real life and connor
04:27is
04:27more like shane i think me and you are both like rose and i'm like svetlana i just said me
04:34and you are
04:34both like rose but i'm just i'm just parting ways that's so svetlana for you to say um i don't
04:41know i
04:42mean maybe i do feel like ilia i don't know i think that um i i'm i'm too sensitive or
04:50outwardly
04:50sensitive or don't have a lot of shame around emotion to be ilia i could be a little cocky like
04:56ilia yeah but beyond that it's like i think shane and ilia sort of share us you know soulfulness
05:03that's kind of buried under all these you know walls and kind of um uh masks but i think
05:10i think underneath that what we both relate with both of them is you know the the heart and and
05:16their soul after wrapping heated rivalry you two got matching tattoos that say sex sales and if true
05:22how did that happen um i did i have a reason for coming up to vancouver i just want to
05:28come see yeah
05:29come hang out am i not good enough right come on yeah i just i don't know why for a
05:33second i
05:33was like i have something to do up there i have nothing to do in vancouver i was there so
05:39yeah
05:39i just went up to see um i just came up to see you we knew we wanted to get
05:43matching tattoos i hadn't
05:44gotten a tattoo in forever um and we were just shuffling through ideas and yeah i think you came
05:51up with sex but like we were both pitching ideas and then like one person would like them the other
05:56person wouldn't and then when you said sex sales i was like oh we were sold that's the first idea
06:00you've had that's good i think it's honestly my most well done tattoo as well so that feels good
06:05the front of my shin pull in here zoom in true or false you ate a pound of beef of
06:13ground beef a day
06:14while filming heated rivalry true um connor told me what his routine was and after i saw him in person
06:21um i asked him how he got to that size i thought he was taking illicit substances he wasn't he
06:28does it
06:28super clean sorry i mentioned illicit substances um but i have nothing to hide bring it on but he was
06:35so just like so i was like what are you eating freak i was like i'm eating
06:45and he just couldn't speak and he just kept doing that and i was like i think that means ground
06:49beef
06:50um you're like that level of capability is what i need and then connor was actually the person who
06:55put me onto fiber because if you need to eat the protein you want to get you know ilia cheeks
07:01um and chest you need so much fiber just so your stomach doesn't shut down and you go into cardiac
07:08arrest and you get carried out from your your little workout on a stretcher with some you know
07:14pumped up pecs and a shut down fucking you look good digestive system it's really unfortunate if it
07:19ends that way yeah yeah i actually um i'm gonna one up this true or false i actually think that
07:25we
07:25ate more than a pound of beef yeah because a pound of beef only has i think 84 grams of
07:30protein
07:30and you need a solid 200 if you're going through size and shape so sometimes i can eat two pounds
07:37of ground beef a day plus like 10 eggs yeah and so many salads i was having so much salad
07:42because by
07:43the end i got like gained 10 pounds so like when i started shooting i was like and by the
07:47end i was
07:48like 10 pounds heavier and it's because of yeah you i mean you're very inspiring i'm glad that we had
07:53each other because it would have been really hard to be motivated if you know we were going back to
07:5812 hour days and then the gym and then like going back to a residence like alone it's really it's
08:03nice that i got to be like hi son let's go to gym and we would go from a fucking
08:0911 hour day skating
08:10lesson and connor would go let's do legs and i and i looked him he's a madman that's how he
08:16has a butt
08:16he'll finish a skating lesson that takes four hours and then go legs now and i was like what are
08:22you
08:22saying i okay i knew i had a responsibility to the people he's america's ass and i i take that
08:31very seriously romance readers are famously passionate about book adaptations did you feel
08:37any pressure being bringing a beloved story to life and how did you approach making the characters
08:41your own it's good i think to go into a project accepting that you know people might be disappointed
08:49especially with something like a book where everyone already has preconceived notions they've
08:53visioned they've envisioned these characters they've drawn these characters they've gotten tattoos of these
08:57characters like the love is already there so much that ultimately someone is going to be disappointed
09:03all you can do is is read the material as much as you possibly can yeah and um and respect
09:12it show
09:13the respect show the dedication and just hope that people you know connect with it and love it and see
09:18that enthusiasm i think we both had that level of whether you want to call it nihilism or not
09:23like people might just hate this people might hate your casting or they might hate my casting
09:28i'm not going to expect anything more and uh i'm just going to do the best i can but you
09:34have really
09:35no metric of if people are going to be warm to your your take i really think at the end
09:40of the day
09:40all you can do is be really intentional give it a hundred and fifty percent yeah just go for it
09:47you know yeah and luckily for us this worked out really freaking well
09:52so
09:55hudson we have heard rumors about a very serious multi-step korean skincare routine can you break it
10:00down for us it's not that lengthy yeah i always made fun of you for it too because i like
10:05honestly
10:06i'm just kind of jealous because you have really good skin um but i was like yeah your skin routine
10:11and then it's actually not that long it's not that long it's okay i'm going to tell you in the
10:16morning i use water to cleanse my face warm water and then i put on a glow toner but it's
10:24pretty dry
10:24it's not like i don't like when people have like dewy like if i see someone it looks like they
10:28just
10:28wore a face mask i'm like why are you out right now like go go wipe that off and then
10:33come talk to
10:33me because i won't right now um and then so my toner and then i'll put on um a serum
10:40and then sunscreen and then sometimes instead of a serum i put on a moisturizer and then my pm routine
10:46is an oil cleanser you know to get out these blackheads to get the the gunk out um and then
10:52i'll either use like a cerave normal ass cleanser or i'll use like a poor shrinking cleanser that's their
10:59new that's their new slogan survey normal ass cleanser i think that is i yeah i also and then
11:08like a poor shrink or a poor shrinking cleanser if that's my goal and then the same thing toner serum
11:13and then either a retinol or a salicylic acid and then i go to fucking sleep so i think everyone
11:20in
11:21the studio agrees that was a lot well i will also say i mean it makes sense you have flawless
11:27skin so
11:28and then when i take it off it just falls apart yeah he unhooks the he unhooks the clip back
11:34here
11:34in the back keeps it all up connor yes story yes do you have a favorite spicy scene from heated
11:41rivalry and a favorite from ember and ice what makes those stand out for you my favorite spicy
11:45scene from ember and ice is actually a scene where dane um is with two former lovers cassandra and
11:53elijah yep i need you to i need you to be here with me okay um dane has an interaction
12:04with uh two of
12:06his former lovers um after having been with finn for some time and uh yeah not to spoil but he
12:14he ends
12:15up realizing that what what really works for him isn't working for him anymore and it's kind of
12:21this moment of identity loss and you know what what pleases me isn't pleasing me the same i think that's
12:27really cool because it's also it's because it's cool because it's like sexy and spicy but it also
12:32is really revealing of the character and the connection and where he's at you know um and i think
12:37it's funny i think i remember dane saying something about um he's like he's like and then the next thing
12:43i did
12:43was i just had to come up with uh an excuse and then he's like he's like my friends i
12:48have bad news
12:50i have a lot from ember and ice but one is the lake scene where we kind of go in
12:56together and you
12:57kind of coax it out of me without spoiling too much i think that one's just you know a lot
13:02of times
13:02like the intimacy before intimacy i think it has more of a charge in a way that one really got
13:08me um
13:10frothing at the mouth and heated rivalry favorite intimate scene there's one that was really fun to
13:16do you remember filming the stair step scene when we're like kissing against the glass and our lips
13:22never come apart me and you were like do people do this do people i know it's always a fun
13:27balance
13:27right of like when you're filming um separate from like the audio space when you're filming
13:33it's like how much of it is fun tv and then how much of it is like is like true
13:41sex because at the
13:42end of the day you know you do have in real life people do have those those like movie moments
13:46where
13:46you're like you know you're like yeah yeah and then everyone on set was like oh yeah no we i've
13:51done
13:51that and then connor and i were like oh oh we usually fold our clothes place them down then go
13:57we're both shane naked and go sex now sex now i'm robot plug me in true or false hudson's roommates
14:07once kept a mooning tally of how many times he flashed them do you know how many times i know
14:14that
14:14you i've yeah i remember this yep it's true it was one roommate um and i i mooned him 31
14:22times
14:22what was his reaction when you mooned him was he like hudson her poor name was chelsea i i i've
14:31talked with her and chelsea has been like you can say my name and i was like so i've since
14:35talked
14:35about this since double consent uh double consent um and uh poor chelsea would just go i think her
14:41main reaction was like oh hudson and it made me so happy where where is chelsea now and i i
14:52i
14:52developed different techniques over the years um she's chilling she's got a cat that's like
14:58hanging off her walls um but i would go and i would do like a drive-by at all these
15:01different
15:02techniques and then she would bring like other you know um romantic interests home and then
15:08they're like what's this tally up on the board and they're like oh that's how many times
15:12hudson my roommate has mooned me and they were like would you just like kind of butt crack it or
15:17would you fold so i had one where i would get pants low like i would de-pants and she
15:23would be
15:23unassuming like maybe on her phone on the couch and i would run by and jump in the air so
15:28i was like
15:29a like like a like a literal moon a literal moon but in fast motion sometimes i would just do
15:35the like
15:36oh drop something before we leave bend and i'm right there gotcha oh god
15:42yes no they they got very athletic but we need to clarify if you were gonna moon someone
15:48yeah a close friend chelsea is still my close friend make it known that this is okay
15:52yep she got a do not moon people you don't know in places it's not okay hudson as an asian
16:01actor
16:01leading such a hugely popular queer romance what kind of stories or roles are you excited for
16:06more people to see you in going forward hmm yeah i i want to i want to represent my my
16:14wajins out
16:15there you know um i've been declared do you know about this i'm declared the i think princess or prince
16:23of wajia me i mean i i sign off on it okay i think you he's the final stamp off
16:30guy for this
16:31so uh yeah i'm the i'm the ambassador of wajia as a fully as a completely caucasian yes but uh
16:40as
16:40as uh this um little wajian i am i hope to just do roles that aren't always charged with you
16:50know
16:50i'm happy to do roles that are you know race has something to to play in there but also i
16:55just want
16:55to be an actor and a lot of the times i just want to play parts where it's like i'm
17:00i'm just there
17:01and we don't need to go in my backstory or whatever it's just you know i'm playing with any other
17:06uh non
17:09person of color would play as well you know you're a person you want to be treated i'm a person
17:14love it baby on both heated rivalry and ember and ice you worked with an intimacy coordinator
17:20um why do you think that role matters on projects like this was there anything about the process
17:24that you think would surprise people wow i mean i think it's so um yeah that's a yeah that question
17:32is i mean it's so important i mean you you literally can't do things without that role um the thing
17:41that
17:41i think would shock people about the role of intimacy coordinating is it's not just about and this is what
17:48i
17:48learned from chayla originally and then also jamie doing this it's not just about the actual safety
17:54the boundaries monitoring what's going on what that looks like making sure everyone's okay there's also
18:00actually a conjunction of an artistic edge where you are like jamie with this you know was also the
18:08voice that was reminding us this is how long it's been since this happened you know you need to i
18:14need
18:14to hear that shiver or that i need to hear those um i need to hear that feeling through your
18:20wings i
18:21need to see that come about i need to feel that pleasure in this way so it's not always technical
18:26even though that's what i feel like is brought up a lot there is also an artistic sensibility to that
18:31job and that really promotes that conversation absolutely bring in the first ginger ale this is
18:39so fun we have canada dry we have schweps we have can you can someone give me a rundown of
18:45the brand
18:45no you're gonna try it and we're gonna go i don't i've only named two from memory well how about
18:50this
18:50i'll hold it so we don't we don't give away anything yep that's my hudson that's my hudson
19:03that's not canada dry this is some shitty american ginger ale this is like schweps or like
19:11um yeah that's my guess you said it's not canada dry why is it not canada dry yeah canada dry
19:17has
19:17got more ginger in it and more bubble in it it's just subtle ginger yeah go ahead and should be
19:23de-blindful you god we got you where is this imported from this this is this is no no way
19:36it says it says
19:37from frisco texas nope i don't i don't this is it changed it changed bring in ginger ale number two
19:47that is so embarrassing thank you so much this one was that one was canada dry what is this one
19:56i'm good um num num um num num you're my baby drink more okay this is cough syrup this is
20:09this is yellow snow what is this a pissy pineapple but that's the brand hudson i have to guess the
20:18brand davai yeah this is schweps okay this one is schweps
20:28i am so happy that i'm not the one tasting these because if i was getting them wrong
20:34i'd feel like an idiot no i'm kidding stupid no you're not i mean they they really set you up
20:44give me another one do you have more bring me bring in how many more bring in the last
20:50bring it to me oh this one's a hard one thank you oh no
21:04uh-huh
21:09that's um that's fever tree ginger um um beer
21:17hudson what what what there's a there's a secondary flavor
21:25do you want to smell test too you want to do like no it's just ginger
21:29no but do like an aromatics test
21:34go full som vibes
21:37do you smell that oh it's hard to it's hard to smell it's fucking ginger pear
21:43fucking it's ginger yeah i'm gonna be honest he would never be able to under you can't taste
21:48that flavor at all
21:51what blood orange good job you can't taste that at all you put food coloring in you didn't put
21:56no blood orange in there i will say i kind of like this one though that one's nice i like
22:01all of them but i guess the brand did i not you killed it when did you first realize you
22:07clicked
22:08and what are some of your favorite memories from working together
22:12i would say our first face time outside of a chemistry read because at that point i was always
22:16shane he was always ilia but then when we first met over face time before we went to toronto um
22:23um we had so many like so much overlap of movies we liked actors we liked um art we liked
22:31and similar
22:31approaches to how we you know like to perform um that i immediately knew i think we clicked there
22:38and i think that's saying a lot because i think some of our our interests can be pretty niche the
22:43fact
22:43that there is overlap is amazing yeah and favorite memories i would say all our laughs on set being in
22:51muskoka um was really beautiful there was a lot of like lounging around um you know it was just great
22:59my favorite memories of working with you are also the laughs what's what's like an inside joke that we
23:05just died over the whole time um we had a storm the set that was also with oh yeah i
23:12would always be
23:13like storm the set if we couldn't afford extras our idea was we would just like do it like a
23:19cattle
23:19call we used to joke that like we um because we would have like airport scenes and stuff where there
23:25would be like you know for an airport you need like you need a bunch of people and we'd have
23:29like
23:29five people and i just imagined um i imagined jacob being like being like costumes get up there and
23:36everyone's like taking off their mics and he's like storm the set opening the garage and just like
23:42opening it up to the public how does it feel to accidentally launch a workout movement
23:49i can't i honestly still cannot believe that that was someone's takeaway from this you know i like i
23:57think i look a little too shabby i'm i'm in the process of gaining weight you know now yeah i
24:01was when
24:01you look you look freaking fantastic well bring it back to me um yeah i people people like our
24:16bodies let's just be honest about it people you know i care about my health i care about my fitness
24:22as do you um honestly watching the show is making us work out even more yeah so what drew you
24:30to doing
24:30a fae romantic story and what was it about the script that hooked you for me it was exploring
24:36sensuality with with your voice you know that's the only tool you have and it kind of scared me a
24:43little bit and you know that there it was a really fun way to explore yourself it was fun it
24:48was actually
24:49fun and you know it's very demanding and it's well written i think in the booth the term
24:57winged hemingway came up you know fantastical hemingway because there was like war there's like
25:03this romance that's forbidden and it seems doomed uh in a lot of ways um and that was way heavier
25:13than
25:13i thought you know this would look like and it was really rewarding i the story just moves really well
25:19too um it was just written really well uh as someone who you know is not a big reader i
25:27think
25:28something like this would be really appealing to me um just the way it it cycles through the feelings
25:33it cycles through the years and point of views yeah yeah i just think it's really like almost
25:38physically well done why do you think mm romance resonates so strongly with women right now
25:45um yeah we've we've both talked about this and kind of been intrigued by it um there's so many
25:51reasons there's so many reasons and then even just women you know there are straight women there are
25:56trans women there are um gay women like queer women it's it's um well that feels like a giant term
26:03to be
26:04like i know exactly why um you know there's like the element of you can live vicariously and you can
26:10feel
26:10safe um like with women this is just one opinion that i had never even considered or thought of um
26:17that i saw that i think you're alluding to which is if you are female um and you are
26:25you are taken out of the equation there's and you're there's a spectatorship to that there's like a
26:33there's a certain amount of separation that allows for safety you know like especially women um historically
26:39being put into a box in a certain way especially when it comes to sex and pleasure it feels like
26:44a nice separation to see sexuality and romance be lived out without um right female dynamic being
26:52yeah i i heard i heard someone online say a woman say that like when you see like a hetero
26:57um couple
26:59you know you default to like relating with or forced to sort of relate with the woman character
27:04um and then that comes with a lot of restriction and two and like imagination a lot of writers you
27:10know are writing very conventionally um which means a lot of outdated tropes um old archetypes and i
27:17think you know with getting to watch two men it's like they can kind of relate with this person in
27:21one
27:21moment they're empathetic to this person they're not forced into a box of here this is your person to
27:26relate with at the end of the day though we're both men i have no idea what it's like to
27:31be a woman
27:32um yeah and so y'all let us know yeah y'all tell us i think me because i would
27:39just be i'd be drinking
27:42i'd be somewhere i'd be like under a table yeah asleep naked but i will say you you're really
27:50freaking athletic and you're really strong and you know how to fight so if it came down to like a
27:55wrestling
27:56match between you and leather face freddy krueger i think you're taking the cake my boy i'm winning
28:04okay snack time me 100 percent yeah you have a little you have a tiny bit more reverence than
28:13i do um if something is overly serious i cannot help but laugh because i just become really like oh
28:20i
28:20become really aware of how do you do that kind of it's not that you left and now now i'm
28:27gonna leave
28:29connor will do the like the like it's like so serious he kind of gets a little take and then
28:34and i can't do his laugh do i do that do i do and then he goes do i do
28:38a polly pocket hand
28:42i accept myself this is what we're rocking this we're rocking it i accept myself
28:48me oh oh yeah i'm i'm dirty you're like you're pretty clean i'd eat anything off the ground no
28:58not me online more than i am yeah well i just love youtube i love the little like
29:03video essay on this movie essay on this little actor have you learned this about genghis khan and
29:10i'm like why what there's so much to know nerd are these book talk trivia things
29:15yeah heaven eats ass i don't know yeah heaven eats ass is that it really what is it
29:25yeah okay
29:28okay this one's harder the rake and the cake the what the rake and the cake well you break up
29:36some some
29:37people together and then you ass yeah are these all going to be ass related
29:43they are for me
29:47oh right right right oh i like i like that i like those i like those ones yeah i like
29:54the grump
29:54why tubes why is this a love triangle thing mm-hmm threesome
30:00it scares me a little foot in both jars of peanut butter if you know what i mean
30:05don't make me nervous on twitter we're going to react to some tweets you don't scare me connor's
30:09story you need to stop your face too smiley your ass too fat your line delivery too good they'll kill
30:16you you really i mean you end up on delivery too good yeah you i i'm i'm cool with that
30:21i feel good um
30:22i i whenever we read tweets i don't know if i'm supposed to like thank you or if i'm supposed
30:28to
30:29like yeah genuinely be like whoa i guess all of it kind of hudson williams's back dimples that's it
30:37that's the tweet oh i didn't realize i had these little back dimples but then i i saw the receipts
30:45and i saw my dimpled cheek back thing and uh we were all singing it yeah i was i was
30:52seeing it
30:53damn for real i love whatever is wrong with y'all my cynthia and ariana
31:04fine i'm invested in heated rivalry not because of their giant bouncy bullets but because it's a true
31:11yearner i'm a sucker for a good romance the yearning is is the thing i think that's that's
31:17probably the sexiest part for people honestly you want to know how we got these bodies you're
31:21enough your ass gets fat despite all the memes i have enjoyed people seeing that physical intimacy
31:28isn't just spice on top of the romance but a vehicle to explore relationship dynamics and character
31:33and also physical and emotional intimacy are different but connected things jacob talks about
31:38this and that was one of the first things i think he brought to us um to try and explain
31:45his vision
31:46which was you know when you read the scripts when you read the pages it can sound very sex heavy
31:51but
31:51to know that the sex really is just the foundation of their relationship and how they connect um yeah i
31:58think that is i think that i think that's kind of you know for the first years of their life
32:03that's how
32:04they communicate that's where their relationship builds and you know that's not usually how sex is
32:08used in media yeah yeah meteor i need hudson williams to know that so many people imagine draw right
32:16and read about him getting pregnant including me is that crazy oh he knows and even comments on yeah
32:23mara heat arrival updates pointing this out to me i know when i learned that about it's crazy i was
32:29like
32:29whatever floats your boat you know um yeah i mean i i think that's like i think that's in the
32:35deep fanfic
32:36side yeah i don't understand it but i'm like you know what you freaks you gung-ho you go get
32:42it
32:43you know if you can go get fictional me pregnant fictional me knock him up this is another one about
32:51my butt again y'all aren't ready for this one connor's story deserves a-o-t-y what's a-o
32:58-t-y mean
32:59connor's story asks of the i don't like this tweet it should be asked century hey whoa
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