00:00Bueno, esto ha sucedido, lo que puede sorprender a ti.
00:05La tristeza de todo esto, ladies y gentlemen,
00:07y es lo que tambiĂ©n me gustarĂa compartir con los ciudadanos que estĂĄn siguiendo,
00:10es que este pattern habitual de disinformaciĂłn, de generar hatred, de hoaxes,
00:14de generar hatred, de hoaxes, de tratar de dividir la sociedad,
00:19es algo que la Partida Popular estĂĄ replicando ya no hay ningĂșn problema.
00:24Esther Muñoz, Ana VĂĄsquez, Miguel Tellado, ElĂas Vendodo, Rafael Hernando, Caetana,
00:30Ălvares de Toledo, replicando y reproduciendo las mismas hoaxes
00:33que la far-right hizo durante los horas de Tanaga, Sayah.
00:37Pero en sus tweets, ellos lesionan en democracia,
00:40pero en realidad, ellos operan con el mismo registro de Iker Jiménez.
00:44Ms. VĂĄsquez.
00:52SĂ, es muy triste.
00:55Es muy triste porque incluso Iker JimĂ©nez tiene un pĂșblico.
01:00There are people who are willing to believe anything,
01:01but I hope that there will be a majority of Spanish men and women
01:05who, of course, reject this.
01:07We'll see. We'll see. We'll see.
01:10Ladies and gentlemen.
01:17Well, first of all, absolute respect for the institution
01:22represented by Mr. Pedro Sanchez, who is our president-president.
01:25Not of a political party, but of all Spaniards, of all of them.
01:28Think about what you think.
01:30I have so much respect for you, Mr. President,
01:32that I'll invite you here whenever you want
01:35to the program Horizonte.
01:37And I have to tell you that I'm surprised
01:40that you give it this much importance.
01:41And I even like it because, well,
01:43it means that you see us, and that's interesting.
01:48I understand that sometimes it's an annoying program.
01:50It's a program where, look, Mr. President,
01:53here, of course, there are no texts.
01:56I never read anything.
01:58And the colleagues, I bring whom I respect.
02:00And, by the way, Horizonte is open to all journalists
02:05who have something to say.
02:06What happens is that many people
02:08didn't want to come to Horizonte at some point.
02:10That's another story.
02:11But those who come from here, free.
02:15But I think that's what a program should be, right?
02:19We believe in freedom of expression
02:21as much as we believe in our institutions
02:23that represent us all.
02:26And so it could be very interesting.
02:28I'm throwing it to him, not the gauntlet,
02:30because it's not a challenge.
02:30I don't have any attitude towards him.
02:32But I'm simply telling him that he could be here.
02:35And we could go into detail.
02:36It could also be rewarding for the audience.
02:38All that stuff about hoaxes.
02:39All that information and misinformation and misinformation.
02:45And I tell him, Mr. Pedro, that you might be surprised
02:49because even if you watch Horizonte,
02:52maybe they're not advising you very well
02:53because there are things that I think are replicated
02:55and repeated and weren't exactly like that.
02:58Since Horizonte's Diario,
03:00logically, there's been an impact lately
03:02because we reach of people.
03:07This time slot, Mr. President, is very difficult.
03:10We have great professionals competing
03:12who attract more viewers than we do
03:14because we are the newcomers
03:15but we are fighting hard with our tools
03:18which are always freedom and research.
03:21Why you search?
03:22You may like it more.
03:24You may like it less.
03:25But I can tell you that
03:27something is happening
03:29because I detect that sometimes
03:31there are certain surprising movements.
03:33Well, what better way to settle it
03:34than while we are here talking?
03:37This is not a politician.
03:38This is the president of all Spaniards.
03:39A president and a humble journalist
03:42asking us questions.
03:44Now, Icaro Jiménez,
03:46yes, that's my name and surname, yes.
03:48It is a bit surprising
03:49that he appears in the Congress of the Police.
03:51He has appeared on occasion
03:52but not because of the president.
03:53He is a person who, as you well know,
03:55does not agree on questions, right?
03:57So it would be wonderful
03:58and could even be beneficial for you.
04:01Why?
04:01Because it was going to be a sincere,
04:04normal interview.
04:05I can assure you that any citizen
04:06on the street would ask you questions.
04:08I don't want to make a big deal out of this issue.
04:12Because I've been very surprised, honestly,
04:15and I don't want to get into any kind of debate.
04:19If you want, here's my invitation
04:22and we have enough problems in this country,
04:24don't wait to get to the heart of an issue
04:26that could even be considered equal rights
04:28because believe me,
04:29a journalist like me
04:30who has been involved in this debate
04:32for a while is also a bit fascinated.
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