00:01That's my point!
00:02That's the point!
00:04And it always feels like that.
00:06Just, why can't I play my norma?
00:13This game takes and it takes.
00:15The game's finally giving me something back.
00:19I'm Damiano Fantoni, movie player from Italy.
00:21Hi!
00:22Hi!
00:23So, in the beginning, in which aspect do you think golf is like life?
00:29Well, I think, you know, they say golf is a good metaphor for life.
00:36And I guess when they say that, they mean that life's really hard.
00:41And that you, you know, that you can't master it.
00:44And, yeah, that's been accurate in my life.
00:48So, yeah.
00:52It does seem like we were kidding about this earlier.
00:55The things that they say are a metaphor for life.
00:57It's never, you know, oh, you know, just laying on the beach, having, you know, an iced tea.
01:04That's a metaphor for life.
01:06No, that's not.
01:06It's always things that are hard.
01:08Yeah, long.
01:08Hard.
01:09Probably really hot.
01:11Sisyphean.
01:12Potentially you get sunburned.
01:14Yeah.
01:14Yeah.
01:14Like, yeah, Sisyphean.
01:16Yeah.
01:17Also, just chasing it.
01:18It feels like golf.
01:19Chasing it.
01:20I don't golf, but it seems like you guys are always chasing it.
01:23Like that one game that you played that was great.
01:26Like, like it's, I always hear you guys talking about like, I hit this.
01:30We are.
01:31Yeah.
01:31I just like had this great game at that course.
01:33And I want to go back to that course.
01:35I had this, this, uh, on, I played a lot in Hawaii and, um, this older guy at the club,
01:43uh, named Doc.
01:44Um, I, I asked him, uh, how he did after a round.
01:47He's a really good golfer, but he said to me after he said, Owen, just once I'd like
01:53to play my normal game out there.
01:57That's my point.
01:58That's the point.
02:00And it always feels like that.
02:02Just why can't I play my normal?
02:04That's not your normal game.
02:06Exactly.
02:07You played yesterday.
02:08That's your normal game.
02:10Or it's like on the driving range.
02:12It's like, oh, I shot a 64 on the driving range.
02:17You know, it's just so hard to make it translate.
02:20I hear people who golf talk about it like this.
02:24And I am like, why would I, why would I take this hobby up?
02:28Like there is enough torture in my life.
02:29I don't need a metaphor for life.
02:31I'm living life.
02:33In it.
02:33Yeah.
02:34Seems awful.
02:36My father, my mother made my father quit golfing when I was a kid because he was so angry
02:41every time he came home from golfing that she was like, that's it.
02:44We're done.
02:45Yeah.
02:46It really can bum you out when you don't play well.
02:50I just wish I could play my normal game.
02:53Just once.
02:54I'd like to play my normal game.
02:56The show says face reality.
03:00The show says face reality.
03:01Yeah.
03:02Why is reality so scary for so many people?
03:04Well, I think reality can be, I mean, it's, it's, you know, uncertain.
03:13You don't know what's coming.
03:14And, you know, there's some, you know, basic facts of life that you're going to lose the
03:22people you love and, uh, and everyone's going to get older.
03:27So, uh, that's, that's something that's, uh, you know, that, that everyone has to face and
03:34contend with, and it's easier for some than others.
03:37Yeah.
03:39Like life is suffering if you get sort of Buddhist about it.
03:43So what we're all trying to do is to like, we're hanging on with like death grips to things
03:48that we love and care about because we don't, we don't want to admit that they could all
03:53go away.
03:54Yeah.
03:55You know, yeah.
03:56Are attached to.
03:58Yeah.
03:59That non-attachment thing is, boy, that's a, that's a, that's a good one.
04:03I heard, um, a good definition of success, um, uh, from Churchill, uh, success is moving
04:12from one failure to another with enthusiasm.
04:16And I think that's golf.
04:18Also a metaphor for golfing.
04:19Golf.
04:20Moving from one bad round, one disappointing round to the next with enthusiasm.
04:27Maybe Churchill was a golfer.
04:29Yeah.
04:32Price lives in the past.
04:34Do you think we are too nostalgic nowadays?
04:38An opinion.
04:39Um, I didn't hear the end of the question.
04:42Are we too nostalgic?
04:43Oh yeah.
04:44I think, um, I mean, every sort of, you know, kind of philosophy and religion that, you know,
04:51talk about sort of getting in the present, but, uh, it's hard to be in the present because,
04:56um, you know, uncertain.
04:59And so, well, it's just, you, it's hard to keep your mind up from thinking about the past
05:05and, uh, um,
05:08Either fixing it or recreating it.
05:10Yeah.
05:11Right.
05:12Like one feeling or the other.
05:14I heard someone say once that the past is history and the future is science fiction.
05:18So all you really have is the present moment.
05:21Yeah.
05:21But.
05:22But what if you like studying history?
05:24I mean.
05:25History is.
05:26And you're kind of a sci-fi person.
05:29And you might be happier than the rest of us.
05:34Thank you.
05:35Thank you.
05:36Thank you.
05:37Takes a bullet and bleeds out at the end.
05:38Why?
05:39That's so unnecessary.
05:44Talk about some differences in subject-to-fare.
05:46Not necessary.
06:03Grazie a tutti.
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