00:00Sì, come in Mortal Kombat?
00:05Sì, è il nostro finisio!
00:19Ciao! Ciao!
00:21Ok, so Challengers è come a tennis match
00:24tra tre caratteristiche,
00:26and which is according to you the main...
00:29the winning move for each one of them?
00:32Ooh.
00:32So which one to the three...
00:35What's our winning move?
00:36Yeah, for the character...
00:38Like in Mortal Kombat?
00:41Yeah, what's our finishing?
00:42The White Com!
00:43Like the main feature in tennis and in life!
00:48And for each of the characters... oh man!
00:50I think that's tough!
00:51I think Patrick...
00:52Yeah.
00:53In the world of the movie, I think Patrick's big serve tick at the end is like a pretty big
01:00power movie.
01:01Finishing.
01:02Finishing.
01:03Finishing.
01:04Finishing.
01:04It starts him off.
01:06It encourages him.
01:07It's true.
01:07And I think, we've talked about this before, but I also think that's what he wants.
01:11He wants to encourage Art to come and get me.
01:14Really play.
01:15Yeah, that's fair.
01:16So the serve for me.
01:18All right.
01:19I have the spike, of course, at the end.
01:22Yes.
01:23I got you.
01:25You're right.
01:26We are.
01:26Nothing happens.
01:28Wait, wait, wait.
01:30The movie doesn't end.
01:31Hold on.
01:32Yeah.
01:33And Bashi?
01:35I don't know.
01:36Because I feel like, yeah, that's a great moment.
01:38I also think him telling her that he's done is a big finisher.
01:44Oh, yeah.
01:44For real.
01:46I don't know.
01:47I think, to be honest, I think she's in a position of reacting.
01:51I think she starts on the opposition and kind of like, she starts without having to defend
02:00herself in the beginning, you know, in that original scene when she's making them play
02:04for her number and all these kinds of things.
02:06But I think, ultimately, she's kind of in a reactionary position, a very vulnerable position
02:13towards the end.
02:14So I don't know if she has any big moves.
02:15I think cheating on her husband's probably not the best.
02:19Finish him.
02:20Finish him.
02:23Sorry.
02:23Maybe not great.
02:25Yeah, it's fine.
02:26I wouldn't suggest that.
02:27Luca Guadagnino is the master filmmaker.
02:30How would you define his cinema and what, in his approach to cinema, made you choose
02:36to be part of this project?
02:38Oh, man.
02:39It's character-driven.
02:40All of Luca's movies are character-driven and he works with great actors and he gets great
02:45actors because the stories are character-driven.
02:48And that's a very defining factor of his movies.
02:53Yeah.
02:54I would completely agree.
02:55I think he also has a way of doing it really beautifully.
02:59And, like, you just want to live inside of his movies.
03:03I think something that I appreciated so much about how he captured tennis.
03:08I've never seen it be captured in this way.
03:11The use of the camera and the movements.
03:14and, like, literally the tennis ball comes flying at your face, you know what I mean?
03:19It's very, very visceral in that way.
03:22And I think that's a testament to how he sees things.
03:29Yeah, I also agree.
03:31I mean, I think, like, yeah, he's ultimately, he's made so many incredible films.
03:37and, as Mike said, you know, full of brilliant performances.
03:42He challenges actors, I think.
03:44I think he knows that, you know, he likes to work with actors that are willing to push themselves
03:50into characters that aren't necessarily like them.
03:53But he believes in you in that way, you know?
03:56So that's a, yeah, I just echo what they said.
04:00Patrick and Art are two different persons.
04:03They're quite the opposite, actually.
04:04Fire and ice.
04:06What about you in your real life?
04:08You are more fire or more ice?
04:11I'm like a earth.
04:12I'm like a tepid water.
04:14Like a stream.
04:16Like a small stream.
04:19Yeah, I don't know.
04:20I think at different times in my life I've been different.
04:24You know, it's elements.
04:29Do you know what's really funny is that as soon as we arrived, like, to rehearse this film,
04:35we had the first few days, as with any job, it's like going to school for the first day.
04:41And you're, like, figuring each other out.
04:44We don't know, you know, I'd seen both of these actors, like, do amazing performances
04:49and I was a little bit intimidated.
04:51And, you know, you come in and then you realise that we're all intimidated by each other.
04:55and then that kind of, all that just disappears.
04:58But I think what was immediately apparent is, like, none of us are like our characters.
05:04And that's, which is so exciting because then you, you know, as soon as you start reading those scenes together
05:10and seeing, it's such a privilege to see actors, like, transform into something else.
05:15Very disarming.
05:16Yeah.
05:17Yeah.
05:17So I think, uh, we're all a bit of fire, ice, and everything in between.
05:24Fire, ice, and everything in between.
05:25Mostly in between.
05:25Fire, ice, and everything in between.
05:27Bam!
05:29Yeah.
05:30One last question.
05:32Tennis and sports in general can be a metaphor of life in some ways.
05:37In this sense, competition can be the thing that keeps us alive.
05:43Competition?
05:43Yes.
05:46I think as long as it's internal.
05:49Yeah.
05:50You know what I mean?
05:50I think competition and I think compare, also comparing yourself, um, you know,
05:56they often say is the thief of joy, you know.
05:59But, um, I think that's really why these, these characters are so miserable,
06:03is because they can't enjoy things or have all the things they need on their own.
06:07that they are reliant upon other people.
06:10And, um, that's when it gets messy.
06:13That's when the competition gets, gets, um, gets dangerous.
06:18Um, I think when it's internal, when it's competing with wanting to be a better version
06:22of who you, who you are at this present moment, then I think there, there can be something
06:27healthier there.
06:29I don't know.
06:30Not for these three, though.
06:31But not for them.
06:32Yeah.
06:32They're definitely competing with me.
06:35Thank you so much.
06:36Thank you.
06:37Thank you.
06:38Thank you.
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