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00:00What's up Geeked Week, my name is Tessa Netting and I am so excited to bring you
00:05some updates around one of the Netflix movies that I cannot wait to see this
00:09year. The School for Good and Evil. Pause for dramatic effect. Today we're gonna
00:14have some never-before-seen sneak peeks from this new fantastical film from
00:17director Paul Fee coming up for you real soon. But first I am so excited to be
00:22sitting down with the two stars of The School for Good and Evil, Sophia Wiley
00:26who plays Agatha, and Sophia Ann Caruso who plays Sophie. Hi guys, are you guys so
00:33excited? Yeah I'm so so excited. I can't stop smiling. I'm literally like on top of
00:39the world right now. Unlike Agatha. Agatha's not a smiler. When was the last time you saw
00:43each other? Like was it when you wrapped filming? Yeah because I'm from Arizona and
00:47then she's from New York so we're never in the same place whenever we're not filming.
00:52So now you guys are back together. Reunion! So nice. So for the uninitiated, for the ones
00:59that aren't fans yet, how would you describe like The School for Good and Evil
01:04and your characters? Well I play Agatha. She's very dry and kind of grumpy and
01:11she's grown up in this village called Gabaldon where she's basically been
01:15characterized as a witch. So she's an outcast, nobody likes her, she lives alone in a
01:20cemetery with her mom. Despite all of this and how she's treated she still has
01:25such a loving and caring heart and the person that she I think loves the most
01:30is her best friend Sophie. Their friendship throughout the film is I think
01:33the most prominent part. It's it's so beautiful and you can see that it
01:37perseveres past all of the chaos that ensues. Yeah we think that Agatha is the
01:42witch and we think that I am the good girl and little do they know some things go
01:47down. It gets a little rough but when people ask me what it's about I say it's
01:52about friendship and seeing eye to eye, seeing the good and the bad in each other
01:58and accepting it and loving each other and it's about discovering both sides of
02:03yourself. It's not just about discovering that you're beautiful as we have a lot
02:07of themes of that in the book. It's also about discovering that you're evil.
02:10You're kind of ugly and it's kind of bad but like it's in everybody.
02:13everybody's got a little bit of both so it's the balance of those in friendship
02:18which we already have. It was pretty easy on screen to have it because we
02:23immediately connected. So fans got their first sneak peek at the School for Good
02:28and Evil earlier this year when we saw a bit of Agatha in action at Netflix films
02:332022 movie preview and let me tell you they lost their minds. What did that
02:39response mean to you? Seeing their reaction and knowing that you are Agatha.
02:45I was so happy to see that the fans of the books were accepting of both myself
02:51and Sophia Ann as our characters because I know how much fans of books care because
02:57I am a book fan and so when I see my favorite book being turned into a movie or
03:01a TV show I want to know who are these people going to be? They have my precious love
03:07in their hands and it really is like a life or death situation but I'm really
03:11glad that they're liking it so far.
03:12Oh they are so excited. We put the call out actually to some fans for some
03:17questions and the Netflix geeked community they showed up. So first up from
03:23lore889 on Twitter they want to know would you guys be an ever or a never yourselves?
03:30Oh we 100% know this. We know the answer. Go ahead. Why don't you?
03:36Okay, do you want to say mine and I'll say yours? Oh yeah, let's do that.
03:39On the count of three? Yeah, okay so I'm gonna say what Sophia Ann is and you say what I
03:43am.
03:43And I'll say what Wiley is. Okay. Okay. One, two, three. Never.
03:47Good. 100% princess over here. 100%. And you're not like a villain but you just are like a baddie.
03:54like you just walk into every room and you command it. I remember like that was
04:01something I noticed during our audition. I was like oh gosh I think she already
04:05booked the role. Like I had no clue whether we were both auditioning
04:09together or if I was just auditioning by myself and she was had already booked it.
04:14You were so calm and collected and you just knew that you had it because you she
04:21she is Sophie in the best way. I'm gonna walk into a room with that kind of confidence
04:24or nothing's gonna work out for you in this life. You're gonna walk into her like I got
04:27this. I think I think Sophie's kind of got that too. She's like excuse me this is
04:32my world. And your outfits reflect that perfectly. I know we weren't sure what we
04:38were gonna wear today. All of us. Come on. You said black and white. Good and evil.
04:42Yep. Good and evil. You guys nailed it. Really. So Laura on Instagram wants to know what
04:47was it like putting on those incredible costumes. Who's gonna talk about the corsets
04:53first. Honestly I think you had the worst with the corsets. Every outfit was a corset.
04:59The best. It was the best. Yes but there were days where both of us were like you can't breathe.
05:07I liked it though. I was like I need more. My poor dresser. Her hands were hurting from
05:12nothing to pull the thing so tight. It was this very Sophie. She would have you know it
05:16would be cinched to the gods. So yeah. Yeah. So it was. The costumes were amazing. I mean
05:22really transforming and it was such a collaborative process getting to help
05:25like create them. Oh really. Yeah I've never really had a more collaborative
05:31costume design experience. So in pre-production before we were even like
05:35having fittings I had a call with the costume designer and she showed me like
05:38all these ideas. I was like oh you see I've already started a Pinterest board.
05:41and she goes I have a board. Share it with me. So we shared our board and we had
05:47half of the same things. No way. Pinned on our boards. So we text all the time and I'm
05:51always sending her like new ideas. The costumes were so collaborative and Paul
05:56Figue wants to let you have your essence on everything so the costumes scream our
06:01characters but they also scream like us as individuals. Yeah I think I had a pretty
06:05similar experience. I had done like a zoom call a couple of zoom calls with
06:09Renee and I was just feeling every idea that I had and I actually took a lot of
06:14inspiration from Bridgerton because I I'm obsessed with that show. I had so many
06:19things pinned and so many ideas and she was so accepting and so so receptive and
06:25it was very strange going into some of my first fittings and trying on these
06:30princess dresses and being like how am I supposed to act like I hate this. I
06:35literally every single dress I put on I told them I'm gonna piss my pants like it
06:41was that was my my verbiage because I didn't have any other way to describe how
06:47excited I was it was like literally a dream come true. Yeah I'm in a potato sack
06:52for first part of the film but there's a certain point where we take a turn and my
06:55costumes are epic for the rest of the movie. So here's a question we got over and
06:59over again. Have you guys read The School for Good and Evil and were you guys fans
07:03of the books like before you got cast once you got cast did you read any? I had
07:07had a meeting with some wonderful producers and they told me that they
07:12were making this huge film and they were telling me the summary and the
07:17storyline and I was like the whole time I was thinking I know this like I've heard
07:22this somewhere and so after the meeting I go on to my Goodreads account look at
07:26my to read list and it's the first book there I was planning on reading it I
07:31finished the first one and as I booked the role and was about to start filming I
07:36was gonna read the second and third and then I was like wait don't do it don't
07:41do it to yourself you don't need to know everything that's gonna happen because
07:44then you're gonna start playing into all of that so I had to literally restrain
07:49myself. I'd known about it for a long time and I didn't get around to reading it
07:53until I was you know signing on to do the show and I didn't at first I thought
07:59I really want to read this because what is it gonna do to what I was already
08:04planning to do with the character and I'm glad of course I read it like how
08:08could I not I had to read the book and I loved it it's amazing and I've sort of
08:12cherry-picked the things that I feel about the character that I could best
08:16represent I started reading the second one I was like don't get ahead of yourself
08:18I like how you both had to like restrain yourself you're like not yet not yet so
08:22Zoe smileyface on YouTube asks what line in the books or in your scripts said by
08:28your characters resonated with you the most you're asking me to remember my lines
08:34you go first a line that I love where Professor Dovee has just shown Agatha
08:40that she is truly beautiful that this perception that she has of herself that
08:45she's created because of what people have told her is actually all false and
08:49she says to her you've been beautiful all along and there was no magic needed to
08:54make you this way I really thought that was such a beautiful message to show that
08:57we all have this inner beauty about us and it does not matter what we look like on
09:02the outside or what people tell us we are we are all beautiful and we don't need
09:07anything to change and fix that to make it more that's such a sweet moment a key
09:12moment yeah we were talking about beauty and I just thought there's a bit where I
09:16go beauty is a full-time job it is it's like it's a full-time job that's just like
09:22a side thought but the important one I think and I'm saying I don't want to be
09:27evil and she says kind of what Dovee said which is like you're not and I grumble a
09:34little bit and then you say we'll always have each other mm-hmm and that's the
09:39whole like point kind of it's like the best part of the whole movie because
09:44what's better than a best friend nothing or just being accepted for exactly who
09:50you are exactly I say you're not you're human exactly we don't need to be
09:55characterized as anything but just human beings so we can't talk about bringing
10:01this beloved story to life without also talking to the school for good and evil
10:05author Soman Chanani thank you I'm so excited to be here with these two
10:10empresses
10:13empresses wow Soman talk to us for a bit about the process of adapting this book
10:19to film like what were you most excited to see brought to life I mean to me it's
10:24such a part of my soul I spent 10 years kind of building this world so I never
10:28even conceived of the possibility that it would become real you know and I assumed
10:32also when it was gonna be made into a movie first you feel like you're winning
10:35the lottery like the idea that this is happening at all and you have to
10:38constantly wake yourself up from this like living dream you're having but then
10:41you also assume it's gonna be CGI like the entire thing is gonna be this kind of
10:45pixel fest you know so to step on set and see the schools built to full life and
10:52then see Sophie and Agatha brought to life by these incredible actresses it felt
10:56like an out-of-body experience every step of the way because it's so kind of
10:59transcendent and magical and I think it reminds all of us the power of our own
11:04creativity what can possibly happen these these you know experiences and
11:08thoughts inside of you come to life it's been the greatest honor of my life and
11:12I'm just very excited that all the the readers and and people who've lived in
11:16this world for you know the last 10 years like I have we'll get to see it on
11:20screen they did your baby right oh yeah these two especially I mean you can't get a
11:24better Sophia and I get that then the two Sophia's the two Sophia's I mean so be a
11:30squared there are plenty of amazing magical schools in literature and you
11:37know I personally wish that I would have enrolled in some of them what was your
11:40inspiration to make this story stand apart from the rest of those I just have
11:45different energy I feel like I wanted a magical school that felt like a Madonna
11:49concert I wanted this kind of like high female energy that was like powering the
11:53school because it's always about a boy it's time to move on from that and bring
11:57forth a powerful you know female pair when you think of fairy tales you think
12:01princess and witch and what if they were friends because to me a princess and a
12:05witch in a way are the same they both can't find happiness within themselves they
12:10need something outside themselves a princess needs love and a witch needs the
12:15princess dead so that was really the engine behind school for Geneva that is
12:19amazing I love that next question is from Auntie Smoller on Twitter for Soman what
12:25was it that Sophia and Sophia brought to these roles that made them the perfect
12:29choices for leads you know what's so difficult about each character is you know
12:33on the page I have total freedom to create these these contradictions within a
12:37character Sophie is a diva and she's a glam glamorous and she's a narcissist but
12:41she's also secretly compassionate and has a deep heart and and is a great friend at the end of it
12:47but at the same time she's also like you know hard as ice at times and to find
12:52somebody who could play all those aspects because Sophie in a lot of ways is me
12:58we've discussed this a lot someone and I are conjoined at the hip a little bit yeah we are we
13:04are very similar Sophie's Unite you know where we look at someone like Sophia Wiley slash Agatha who
13:09is good to the bone and we don't quite understand them yeah we have had this conversation
13:16come on I'm evil guys deeply deep down I'm cool and evil but can you say that without a smile
13:23I'm evil oh god you're smiling I know what a little twinkle in your eye Agatha was my conscience
13:32you know Agatha is what I know I should do I think Agatha is everybody's conscience you know so Sophie
13:38was
13:38was kind of you know behavior and Agatha was the conscience and so the difference between who you are
13:44and what you do I think is at the center of school for good and evil and no one on
13:49earth can capture
13:51the kind of glow and humanity of Agatha like Sophia Wiley I mean they looked all over the world for
13:56Agatha because she's such a big kind of iconic character in children's literature now and there
14:02was no one who could play her like Sophia you know it's true at the same time I remember being
14:08like
14:08at the beginning Agatha has to be grumpy and cynical and and have that kind of slight evil
14:14energy at the beginning and we were all like but she pulls it off brilliantly you guys did both did
14:21a fake out you really did their pairing is absolutely fantastic and the friendship is so strong that it
14:28is really the pulsing heart oh yeah this movie I mean I gotta say it is so powerful to see
14:33like
14:33two badass ladies at the center of such like an epic story like this it is a dream this next
14:40question
14:40comes from Melanie Sharpie Burgess on YouTube what's your favorite scene in the book that you shot
14:47I'm dying to know what your favorite is you each had two different scenes um that I was sort of
14:53looking
14:53forward to one was the wish fish scene I thought because I don't know how you film that scene but
14:59to
15:00do it outside with you know Kerry Washington's Professor Dovey and and the wish fish in the story are these
15:05you know fish um in the animal communication class that can read your greatest wish you put your
15:11finger in this kind of magical lake and they tell you what your soul wants and Agatha's wish ultimately
15:17is very revealing uh and so to see that brought to life with you and Kerry there was just that
15:23was sort
15:23of this chills moment because that came that really came from the heart so to see it on screen was
15:28a big
15:29deal and then Sophie the two moments one is kind of the fashion parade um and writing that in the
15:36book was one of my favorite moments you know I think at some point she shows up in a chainmail
15:40bustier in the book and my editor was at the time was like this cannot be in a children's book
15:45and I'm
15:46like I'm not touching it and so to see to see that kind of energy in all of your outfits
15:50I thought
15:51was something amazing and you play it so well that was fun it is so iconic I I think I
16:01agree my
16:01favorite scene was the whole wish fish and stimp scene there was a lot of things that were not
16:09there that I had to act with and so I think that was one of the most challenging days of
16:15all because I
16:15I just remember talking to my my mom and my dad and I was like I'm not looking at anything
16:22I'm having
16:23to like talk to things that aren't there and imagine and it was it really made me have to channel
16:30my
16:30inner child and that imagination that you have because there was so many things that I just I
16:36completely had to create in my own head that's why I'm always encouraging kids to read and and because
16:41ultimately your imagination is the greatest power you have and you can only develop that by reading
16:45in a lot of ways because it you know when you read a book it's your version right so everybody
16:51who's read the School for Gnievel you know there's millions of different versions out there and every
16:54kid has their personal one and when they come to see the movie finally this is a version they can
16:58actually share with their friends and family you know but they're still gonna have their own you
17:02know each of you have your own I have my own we all have our own version of a story
17:06but a movie gives
17:07you an opportunity to sort of collectively come together and and show it off here's the question for you
17:13guys I think is so the reason I wanted it to be about a female friendship is I remember growing
17:19up
17:19and in middle school in high school the way that two girls would almost form this kind of you know
17:24union
17:24that was unbreakable they would always be together sleepovers you know they would go to the bathroom
17:29together like they were just always together like always together and then you know a boy or a third
17:35party would appear at some point and create the slightest crack in the foundation of the friendship
17:41and then the question was whether the two girls could get back together again the way they were
17:46and I felt like that was a story I'd seen over and over in real life and so I was
17:50just curious you
17:51know your own experiences in life and and whether you've seen that sort of play out absolutely I've had
17:57a lot of girlfriends and it's difficult and Sophia knows this growing up in an industry like this
18:03and it's hard actually to find like female friendships that are really genuine and lasting
18:10and solid because it is this sort of like there's a very competitive nature so for me at least there's
18:17there's been that and it's always been difficult and I think that Sophie has that competitive nature
18:22and I think that Sophia Wiley I think that we have the bond is the point I'm getting at and
18:27then I think
18:28we maybe can both relate to having this struggle of like third parties coming in or whether that's
18:33frustration like jealousy or whether that's a boy or whatever it would be um it's always been
18:38difficult for me to have like lasting female friendships but I think that at the end Sophia and
18:43Agatha have that and I think I think we as pals have that too yeah I've seen that a lot
18:49as well in my
18:49life like I always tell myself friendships last much longer than most relationships do that's true
18:56so I will always try my best to put my friends before any romantic feelings I may have for somebody
19:04in a moment always lean on your friends yes always lean on your friends because they they really are
19:10are there for you in ways that most people aren't they know your heart and they accept you for who
19:16you
19:16are and that union that you're talking about between two girls it is really something so
19:20special I think my best friend is my sister and of course that's a bond stronger than just like
19:26friendship we are blood literally everything I'm going through she has gone through or is going
19:33through or is going to go through like we know each other inside and out and so that bond is
19:38unbreakable
19:39no matter if I scream at her one day or we punch each other and we don't punch each other
19:45come on
19:46come on but like when we fight there's there's always that underlying love and I think that
19:52represents Sophie and Agatha's relationship so much they love each other no matter if they're
19:57fighting the bond of a sister is like it never breaks technically technically I mean come on the
20:03resemblance is uncanny come on also thinking like it's so funny because Sophia is like and I would
20:08always put a friend first and meanwhile I'm thinking as a true Sophie and we're like yeah
20:16so Sophia and Sophia this last one is for you we have one more super fan who has a question
20:22for
20:22you actually and they submitted a video so we're gonna take a look at that right now hey ladies how's
20:29it going oh I miss you terribly I hear you're taking fan questions though do you mind if I ask
20:35you one
20:36great okay here's my question do you want to see an exclusive tease of the school for good and evil
20:43ah excellent okay great well then I would like to without any further ado introduce to the world
20:50the school for good and evil roll it
20:55did you ever wonder
21:01where every great fairy tale begins
21:06where the good become heroes and the evil become villains
21:16welcome we've been expecting you
21:31what was that
21:39this is
21:53oh that's so sick oh I hope my parents got to see that
21:58this is so exciting because this is the first time that anyone is seeing anything from that so
22:05everyone's gonna freak out just like you guys we officially know now that the school for good and
22:10evil is coming this september it's happening it's coming we're so excited we can't wait how does it feel to
22:16see that i love it we should be proud of what we did that was hard work that's insane it
22:21always is a
22:22a little terrifying because we do our best as actors to put everything we can into a role and then
22:30when we're done filming we have to just trust so much trust but paul feig is incredible he has
22:37literally not stopped working on this since we've wrapped a year ago and i can see the work has really
22:44shown itself it's so incredible it's beautiful it's so much like darker than i was imagining
22:51but i love that i love the look of it the cinematography it's just stunning and it's so exciting
22:58yeah it's pretty cool so man how do you feel when you see that i just think that moment where
23:02the
23:02bird takes him towards the school is literally like it just felt like ripped out of all of our
23:07imagination like when she says it's real like that's a line straight from the book so when i saw it
23:12i just thought to myself who's not going to want to see this movie the whole world is going to
23:16fall
23:16in love with these two girls very shortly did it girl power girl power yes someone sophia sophia thank
23:24you so much for being here it was a pleasure to talk to you guys and have this moment having
23:30geeked week
23:30and having you guys and revealing everything thank you for having us i'm very very excited oh my god
23:36you guys are the best i can't wait to just spend a year running around the world with you
23:39right and for those of you at home there's plenty more in store for the school for good and evil
23:48before it comes out on netflix this september so be sure to follow netflix geeked and netflix film
23:53for all of the updates i'll be back here at geeked week this friday for a live episode of the
23:58geeked
23:59podcast where me and my co-host princess weeks are going to break down all the best moments of geeked
24:04week
24:04including this panel geeked week continues tomorrow with a whole day dedicated to animation so we'll see
24:11you there bye