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00:03Connor. Yes. We hear you love languages and accents. Other than Russian, what's
00:09your favorite? Ooh, I'm kind of always switching between languages. Right now, I
00:15really want to learn Spanish. I'm from West Texas, so I've always heard Spanish.
00:20And living in LA, there's Spanish everywhere. So it doesn't feel very, like,
00:24exotic to me because I've heard it my whole life, but I think it's, I think it's
00:30sexy. Spanish is muy sexy. Yes, I think Colombian Spanish, I think, is the sexiest
00:36language there is. I like the traditional Spain Spanish. Vamos a la playa de
00:41Barcelona. Con Javier Baedén. Ana de Armas. Ana de Armas. She's Cuban, right?
00:50She's Cuban. Okay. Pretty girl. Okay. This year marks 20 years since Brokeback
00:55Mountain. Are there any MM romance movies, shows, or books that have really stuck
01:00with you, either growing up or recently? Well, I love Brokeback Mountain. It was one
01:04of the first things that you told me. Yeah. I love, Keith Ledger plays Ennis. I
01:09still think it's his best work. I think that was one of the first pivotal ones
01:13when you have two leading men take on, you know, gay cowboys. It's pretty bold, but
01:19then, you know, you have Call Me By Your Name, Moonlight, I think with Barry
01:23Jenkins saying, bringing the art house to the hood is what he said. That was
01:28already just a beautiful juxtaposition. And then having, you know, he said he
01:32wanted to redefine masculinity with that movie, which I thought was so cool.
01:36Yeah. Call Me By Your Name, I think, was like pretty revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah. I was in
01:40high school at that time, and I remember that being the first thing that felt like it
01:45was really a part of the cultural zeitgeist. And also handled, like, it also handled
01:51queer stories in a really cool way where it was so under the surface and it made it
01:57so human, you know, which I think also was kind of like a moonlight scenario where
02:02we're taking these people in such a specific time and place and, like, letting
02:07them explore love. Right. What does smut mean to you?
02:12Hmm. I'm going to try to make an acronym. Sexy. This is going to be in relation to, um,
02:20through to Friends. Um, into, uh, ice. We're gonna go into Embron Ice, sexy, magic,
02:26um universe
02:29i have no idea what did i say sexy magic universe um titillating yeah yeah we'll do that titillating
02:51oh you very publicly shot your shot for nightwing uh uh which was extremely fun to watch have you
02:58been a dc fan and what is it like to see fans instantly rally behind you especially the ones
03:02that say you have the face the talent and the butt i will be completely honest i when i saw
03:09like some fan art of you as nightwing i was like blown away whoa like i i mean you never
03:16know if
03:17it's going to come to fruition or not but yeah i see like someone did you in the comic book
03:21style
03:22i was like i see it right away wow yeah i would i would love to play him i love
03:27dc i love um i loved
03:30all like comic books that were true to the source material um and i think you know there are a
03:40lot
03:40of good filmmakers who like bring their own style to these you know beloved um um comics that i
03:47think it would be really great to work with them you know i'm not fully set on nightwing you know
03:52i'm
03:52open to other things um did you always want to be in like did is superheroes no always something
03:59that's been like i absolutely not it's just it's when really good filmmaker it's it's filmmaker driven
04:06so when like a guy like james gunn um or matt reeves you know comes to comics it i think
04:12that's what
04:12draws me um and and i heard james gunn is doing the the teen titans i know there's yeah but
04:19yeah james
04:21gunn he's in love with you true or false hudson is more like ilya in real life and connor is
04:27more like
04:27shane i think me and you are both like rose and i'm like svetlana i just said me and you
04:34are both
04:35like gross but i'm just i'm just parting ways that's so svetlana for you to say um i don't know
04:42i mean maybe i do feel like ilya i don't know i think that um i i'm i'm too sensitive
04:49or outwardly
04:50sensitive or don't have a lot of shame around emotion to be ilya i could be a little cocky like
04:56ilya yeah but beyond that it's like i think shane and ilya sort of share us you know soulfulness that's
05:03kind of buried under all these you know walls and kind of um uh masks but i think i think
05:11underneath that what we both relate with both of them is you know the the heart and and their soul
05:16after wrapping heated rivalry you two got matching tattoos that say sex sales and if true how did that
05:23happen um i did i have a reason for coming up to vancouver i just wanted to come see yeah
05:29come hang
05:29out am i not good enough come on yeah i just i don't know why for a second i was
05:33like i have
05:34something to do up there i have nothing to do in vancouver i was there so yeah i just went
05:39up to see
05:40um i just came up to see you we knew we wanted to get matching tattoos i hadn't gotten a
05:45tattoo in
05:45forever um and we were just shuffling through ideas and yeah i think you came up with sex but like
05:52we were
05:52both pitching ideas and then like one person would like them the other person wouldn't and then when
05:57you said sex sales i was like oh we were sold that's the first idea you've had that's good i
06:01think
06:02it's honestly my most well done tattoo as well so that feels good the front of my shin pull in
06:08here
06:08zoom in true or false you ate a pound of beef of ground beef a day while filming heated rivalry
06:16true um connor told me what his routine was and after i saw him in person um i asked him
06:23how he
06:24got to that size i thought he was taking illicit substances he wasn't he does it super clean sorry
06:30i mentioned illicit substances um but i have nothing to hide bring it on but he was so
06:37just like so i was like what are you eating freak i was like i'm eating
06:46and he just couldn't speak and he just kept doing that i was like i think that means ground beef
06:50um you're like that level of capability is what i need and then connor was actually the person who
06:55put me onto fiber because if you need to eat the protein you want to get you know ilia cheeks
07:01um
07:02and chests you need so much fiber just so your stomach doesn't shut down and you go into cardiac arrest
07:09and you get carried out from your your little workout on a stretcher with some you know pumped up pecs
07:15and a shut down you look you look good digestive system it's really unfortunate if it ends that
07:20way yeah yeah i actually um i'm gonna one up this true or false i actually think that we ate
07:25more
07:26than a pound of beef yeah because a pound of beef only has i think 84 grams of protein and
07:31you need a
07:31solid 200 if you're going through size and shape so sometimes i can eat two pounds of ground beef a
07:37day
07:38plus like 10 eggs yeah and so many salads i was having so much salad because by the end i
07:43got like
07:43gained 10 pounds so like when i started shooting i was like and by the end i was like 10
07:48pounds heavier
07:48and it's because of yeah yeah you i mean you're very inspiring i'm glad that we had each other because
07:54it would have been really hard to be motivated if you know we were going back to our 12 hour
07:59days and
07:59then the gym and then like going back to a residence like alone it's really it's nice that i got
08:03to be
08:04like hi son let's go to gym and we would go from a 11 hour day skating lesson and connor
08:11would go
08:11let's do legs and i and i looked him he's a madman that's how he has a butt he'll finish
08:17a skating
08:17lesson that takes four hours and then go legs now and i was like what are you saying i okay
08:24i knew
08:24i had a responsibility to the people he's america's ass and i i take that very seriously romance readers
08:34are famously passionate about book adaptations did you feel any pressure being bringing a beloved story
08:39to life and how did you approach making the characters your own it's good i think to go into
08:43a project accepting that you know people might be disappointed especially with something like a book
08:50where everyone already has preconceived notions they've visioned they've envisioned these characters
08:54they've drawn these characters they've gotten tattoos of these characters like the love is already
08:59there so much that ultimately someone is going to be disappointed all you can do is is read the
09:06material as much as you possibly can yeah and um and respect it show the respect show the dedication
09:14and just hope that people you know connect with it and love it and see that enthusiasm i think we
09:20both
09:20had that level of whether you want to call it nihilism or not like people might just hate this people
09:26might hate your casting and they might hate my casting i'm not going to expect anything more
09:31and uh i'm just gonna do the best i can but you have really no metric of if people are
09:37going to be
09:37warm to your your take i really think at the end of the day all you can do is be
09:42really intentional
09:43give it 150 percent yeah just go for it you know yeah and luckily for us this worked out really
09:51freaking
09:51well hudson we have heard rumors about a very serious multi-step korean skincare routine can you
10:00break it down for us it's not that lengthy yeah i always made fun of you for it too because
10:04i like
10:05honestly i'm just kind of jealous because you have really good skin um but i was like yeah your skin
10:10routine and then it's actually not that long it's not that long it's okay i'm gonna tell you in the
10:16morning i use water to cleanse my face warm water and then i put on a glow toner but it's
10:24pretty dry
10:24it's not like i don't like when people have like dewy like if i see someone it looks like they
10:28just
10:28wore a face mask i'm like why are you out right now like go go wipe that off and then
10:33come talk to me
10:33because i won't right now um and then so my toner and then i'll put on um a serum and
10:40then sunscreen
10:41and then sometimes instead of a serum i put on a moisturizer and then my pm routine is an oil
10:47cleanser you know to get out these blackheads to get the the gunk out um and then i'll either use
10:53like a cerave normal ass cleanser or i'll use like a poor shrinking cleanser that's their new
10:59that's their new slogan survey normal ass cleanser i think that is i yeah i also and then like a
11:08poor
11:08shrink or a poor shrinking cleanser if that's my goal and then the same thing toner serum and then
11:14either a retinol or a salicylic acid and then i go to sleep so i think everyone in the studio
11:21agrees
11:21that was a lot well i will also say i mean it makes sense you have flawless skin so and
11:28then when i take
11:29it off it just falls apart yeah he unhooks the he unhooks the clip back here in the back keeps
11:35it all up
11:36connor yes story yes do you have a favorite spicy scene from heated rivalry and a favorite
11:42from ember and ice what makes those stand out for you my favorite spicy scene from ember and ice is
11:47actually a scene where dane um is with two former lovers cassandra and elijah yep
11:58i need you to i need you to be here with me okay um dane has an interaction with uh
12:05two of his former
12:06lovers um after having been with finn for some time and uh yeah not to spoil but he he ends
12:15up realizing
12:15that what what really works for him isn't working for him anymore and it's kind of this moment of
12:21identity loss and you know what what pleases me isn't pleasing me the same i think that's really
12:27cool because it's also it's because it's cool because it's like sexy and spicy but it also is really
12:32revealing of the character and the connection and where he's at you know um and i think it's funny i
12:38think i remember dane saying something about um he's like he's like and then the next thing i did was
12:44i just had to come up with uh an excuse and then he's like he's like my friends i have
12:48bad news
12:50i have a lot from ember and ice but one is the lake scene where we kind of go in
12:56together and you
12:56kind of coax it out of me without spoiling too much i think that one's just you know a lot
13:02of times
13:02like the intimacy before intimacy i think it has more of a charge in a way that one really got
13:08me um
13:10frothing at the mouth and heated rivalry favorite intimate scene there's one that was really fun
13:16to film do you remember filming the stair step scene when we're like kissing against the glass
13:21and our lips never come apart me and you were like do people do this do people i know it's
13:26always
13:27a fun balance right of like when you're filming um separate from like the audio space when you're
13:32filming it's like how much of it is fun tv and then how much of it is like is like
13:40true sex because
13:41at the end of the day you know you do have in real life people do have those those like
13:45movie moments
13:46where you're like you know you're like yeah yeah and then everyone on set was like oh yeah no we
13:50i've done that and then connor and i were like oh oh we usually fold our clothes place them down
13:57and
13:57go both chain naked and go sex now sex now i'm robot plug me in true or false hudson's roommates
14:07once kept a mooning tally of how many times he flashed them do you know how many times i know
14:14that
14:14you i've yeah i remember this yep it's true it was one roommate um and i i mooned him 31
14:22times what was his
14:23reaction when you mooned him was he like hudson her poor name was chelsea i i i've talked with her
14:31and chelsea has been like you can say my name and i was like so i've since talked about this
14:35since
14:36double consent uh double consent um and uh poor chelsea would just go i think her main reaction was like
14:42oh hudson and it made me so happy where where is chelsea now and i i developed different
14:53techniques over the years um she's chilling she's got a cat that's like hanging off her walls
14:59but i would go and i'd do like a drive-by at all these different techniques and then she would
15:03bring
15:03like other you know romantic interests home and then they're like what's this tally up on the board
15:10and they're like oh that's how many times hudson my roommate has mooned me and they were like would
15:15you just like kind of butt crack it or would you fold so i had one where i would get
15:19pants low like i would
15:21deep pants and she would be unassuming like maybe on her phone on the couch and i would run by
15:27and
15:27jump in the air so i was like a like like a like a literal moon a literal moon but
15:33in fast motion
15:34sometimes i would just do the like oh drop something before we leave bend and i'm right there gotcha
15:39oh god yes no they they got very athletic but we need to clarify if you were going to moon
15:47someone
15:48yeah a close friend chelsea is still my make it make it known that this is okay yep she got
15:54a
15:54who do not moon people you don't know in places it's not okay hudson as an asian actor leading such
16:02a hugely popular queer romance what kind of stories or roles are you excited for more people to see you
16:07in going forward um yeah i i wanna i wanna represent my my wajins out there you know um i
16:17have been
16:17declared do you know about this i'm declared the i think princess or prince of wajia me i mean i
16:27i sign
16:27off on it okay i think you he's the final stamp off guy for this so uh yeah i'm the
16:33i'm the ambassador
16:34of wajin as a fully as a completely caucasian yes but uh as as uh this um little wajin i
16:43am i hope
16:45to just do roles that aren't always charged with you know i'm happy to do roles that are
16:51you know race has something to to play in there but also i just want to be an actor and
16:57a lot of
16:57the times i just want to play parts where it's like i'm i'm just there and we don't need to
17:02go in
17:02my back story or whatever it's just you know i'm playing with any other uh non-person of color would
17:10play as well you know you're a person you want to be treated i'm a person love it baby on
17:16both heated
17:17rivalry and ember and ice you worked with an intimacy coordinator um why do you think that
17:21role matters on projects like this was there anything about the process that you think would
17:25surprise people wow i mean i think it's so um yeah that's a yeah that question is i mean it's
17:33so
17:33important i mean you you literally can't do things without that role um the thing that i think would
17:42shock people about the role of intimacy coordinating is it's not just about and this is what i learned
17:48from chayla originally and then also jamie doing this it's not just about the actual safety the
17:54boundaries monitoring what's going on what that looks like making sure everyone's okay there's also
18:00actually a conjunction of an artistic edge where you are like jamie with this you know was also the
18:08voice that was reminding us this is how long it's been since this happened you know you need to i
18:13need
18:14to hear that shiver or that i need to hear those um i need to hear that feeling through your
18:20wings i
18:21need to see that come about i need to feel that pleasure in this way so it's not always technical
18:26even though that's what i feel like is brought up a lot there is also an artistic sensibility to that
18:31job and that really promotes that conversation absolutely bring in the first ginger ale this is so
18:39fun we have canada dry we have schweps we have can you can someone give me a rundown of the
18:45brands
18:45nope you're gonna try it and we're gonna go i don't i've only named two from memory well how about
18:50this i'll hold it so we don't we don't give away anything yep that's my hudson that's my hudson
19:03that's not canada dry this is some shitty american ginger ale this is like schweps or like um
19:12yeah that's my guess it you said it's not canada dry why is it not canada dry yeah canada dry
19:17has
19:17got more ginger in it and more bubble in it it's just subtle ginger yeah go ahead and should be
19:23deep
19:24blindfolded you god we got you where is this imported from this this is this is no no way it
19:37says
19:37from frisco texas nope i don't i don't this is it changed it changed bring in ginger ale number two
19:47that is so embarrassing thank you so much this one was that one was canada dry what is this one
19:56um num num um you're my baby drink more okay this is cough syrup this is this is yellow snow
20:11what is
20:12this a pissy pineapple but that's the brand hudson i have to guess the brand
20:20davai yeah this is schweps okay this one is schweps
20:28i am so happy that i'm not the one tasting these because if i was getting them wrong
20:34i'd feel like an idiot no i'm kidding stupid no you're not i mean they they really set you up
20:44give
20:44me another one do you have more bring me bring in how many more bring in the last to me
20:53oh this one's a hard one thank you oh no
21:09that's um that's fever tree ginger um um beer hudson open what what what what there's a there's a
21:21secondary flavor
21:26do you want to smell test too you want to do like no it's just ginger no but do like
21:30an aromatics test
21:34go full som vibes do you smell that oh it's hard to it's hard to smell it's
21:41fucking ginger pear
21:43fucking it's ginger yeah i'm gonna be honest he would never be able to unders you can't taste that
21:48flavor at all what blood orange good job you can't taste that at all you put food coloring in
21:56you didn't put no blood orange in there i will say i kind of like this one though that one's
22:00nice
22:00i like all of them but i guess the brand did i not you killed it when did you first
22:06realize you
22:07clicked and what are some of your favorite memories from working together hmm i would say our first
22:13face time outside of a chemistry read because at that point i was always shane he was always
22:17ilia but then when we first met over face time before we went to toronto um we had so many
22:25like
22:26so much overlap of movies we liked actors we liked um art we liked and similar approaches to how we
22:33you know like to perform um that i immediately knew i think we clicked there and i think that's
22:39saying a lot because i think some of our our interests can be pretty niche the fact that there
22:43is overlap is yeah amazing yeah and favorite memories i would say all our laughs on set being in
22:51muskoka um was really beautiful there was a lot of like lounging around um you know it was just great
22:59my favorite memories of working with you are also the laughs what's what's like an inside joke that we just
23:05um died over the whole time um we had a storm the set that was also with oh yeah i
23:12would always be
23:12like storm bus if we couldn't afford extras our idea was we would just like do like a cattle call
23:20we used to joke that like we um because we would have like airport scenes and stuff where there would
23:25be like you know for an airport you need like you need a bunch of people and we'd have like
23:29five people
23:29and i just imagined um i imagined jacob being like being like costume get up there and everyone's
23:37like taking off their mics and he's like storm the set opening the garage and just like opening it up
23:43to the public how does it feel to accidentally launch a workout movement i can't i honestly still cannot
23:51believe that that was someone's takeaway from this you know i like i think i look a little too shabby
23:58i'm
23:58in the process of gaining weight right now you know yeah i was when you look you look freaking
24:03fantastic well bring it back to me yeah i people people like our bodies let's just be honest about
24:18it people you know i care about my health i care about my fitness as do you um honestly watching
24:25the
24:26show is making us work out even more yeah so what drew you to doing a fey romanicy story and
24:32what was
24:32it about the script that hooked you for me it was exploring sensuality with with your voice you know
24:38that's the only tool you have and it kind of scared me a little bit and you know that there
24:45it was a
24:45really fun way to explore yourself it was fun it was actually fun and you know it's very demanding and
24:51it's it's well written i think in the booth the term winged hemingway came up you know fantastical
25:01hemingway because there was like war there's like this romance that's forbidden and it seems doomed uh
25:08in a lot of ways um and that was way heavier than i thought you know this would look like
25:15and it was
25:16really rewarding the story just moves really well too um it was just written really well uh as someone
25:24who you know is not a big reader i think something like this would be really appealing to me um
25:30just
25:30the way it it cycles through the feelings it cycles through the years and point of view yeah yeah i
25:36just
25:36think it's really like almost physically well done why do you think mm romance resonates so strongly
25:42with women right now mm yeah we've we've both talked about this and kind of been intrigued by it
25:49um there's so many reasons there's so many reasons and then even just women you know there are straight
25:55women there are trans women there are um gay women like queer women it's it's um well that feels like
26:02a
26:02giant term to be like i know exactly why um you know there's like the element of you can live
26:09vicariously
26:09and you can feel safe um like with women this is just one opinion that i had never even considered
26:15or thought of um that i saw that i think you're alluding to which is if you are female um
26:21and you
26:22are you are taken out of the equation there's and you're you're there's a spectatorship to that
26:31there's like a there's a certain amount of separation that allows for safety you know like especially women
26:38um historically being put into a box in a certain way especially when it comes to sex and pleasure
26:44it feels like a nice separation to see sexuality and romance be lived out without um right female
26:51dynamic being yeah i i heard i heard someone online say a woman say that like when you see like
26:56a hetero
26:58couple you know you default to like relating with or forced to sort of relate with the woman character
27:04um and then that comes with a lot of restriction and two and like imagination a lot of writers you
27:10know are writing very conventionally um which means a lot of outdated tropes um old archetypes and i
27:17think you know with getting to watch two men it's like they can kind of relate with this person in
27:21one
27:21moment they're empathetic to this person they're not forced into a box of here this is your person to
27:26relate with at the end of the day though we're both men i have no idea what it's like to
27:31be a woman
27:32um yeah and so y'all let us know yeah y'all tell us i think me because i would
27:39just be i'd be drinking
27:42i'd be somewhere i'd be like under a table yeah asleep naked but i will say you you're really
27:50freaking athletic and you're really strong and you know how to fight so if it came down to like a
27:55wrestling match between you and leather face freddy krueger i think you're taking the cake my boy
28:02i'm winning okay snack time me 100 percent yeah you have a little you have a tiny bit more
28:12reverence than i do um if something is overly serious i cannot help but laugh
28:18because i just become really like oh i become really aware of how do you that kind of
28:26you left and now now i'm gonna leave connor will do the like the like it's like so serious
28:33he kind of gets a little take and then and i can't do his laugh do i do that do
28:36i do and then he goes
28:38do i do a polly pocket hand you know what i accept myself this is what we're rocking this we're
28:45rocking
28:46it i accept myself me oh oh yeah i'm i'm dirty you're like you're pretty clean i'd eat anything
28:53off the ground no not me oh i'm more than i yeah well i just love youtube i love the
29:02little like
29:03video essay on this movie essay on this little actor have you learned this about genghis khan and i'm like
29:10wow what there's so much to know nerd are these book talk trivia things heaven eats ass i don't
29:18know yeah heaven eats ass is that it really what is it happily ever after yeah okay
29:28okay this one's harder the rake and the cake
29:31the what the rake and the cake well you break up some some people together and then you
29:38ass yeah are these all going to be ass related
29:43they are for me
29:47oh right right oh i like i like that i like those i like those ones yeah i like the
29:54grump
29:54why tubes why is this a love triangle thing mm ooh threesome it scares me a little foot in
30:02both jars of peanut butter if you know what i mean don't make me nervous on twitter we're
30:06gonna react to some tweets you don't scare me connor's story you need to stop your face
30:11too smiley your ass too fat your line delivery too good they'll kill you you really i mean you
30:17and your line delivery too good yeah you i i'm i'm cool with that i feel good um i i
30:23whenever we
30:24read tweets i don't know if i'm supposed to like thank you or if i'm supposed to like yeah genuinely
30:30be like whoa i guess all of it kind of hudson williams's back dimples that's it that's the tweet
30:39i didn't realize i had these little back dimples but then i i saw the receipts and i saw my
30:46dimpled cheek back thing and uh we were all seeing it yeah i was i was seeing it damn for
30:54real i love
30:55whatever is wrong with y'all my cynthia and ariana
31:04fine i'm invested in heated rivalry not because of their giant bouncy bullets but because it's a true
31:11yearner i'm a sucker for a good romance the yearning is is the thing i think that's that's
31:17probably the sexiest part for people honestly you want to know how we got these bodies you're
31:21enough your ass gets fat despite all the memes i have enjoyed people seeing that physical intimacy
31:28isn't just spice on top of the romance but a vehicle to explore relationship dynamics
31:32and character and also physical and emotional intimacy are different but connected things jacob talks
31:38about this and that was one of the first things i think he brought to us um to try and
31:45explain his
31:45vision which was you know when you read the scripts when you read the pages it can sound very sex
31:50heavy
31:50but to know that the sex really is just the foundation of their relationship and how they
31:57connect um yeah i think that is i think that i think that's kind of you know for the first
32:02years of
32:03their life that's how they communicate that's where their relationship builds and you know that's
32:07not usually how sex is used in media yeah yeah meteor i need hudson williams to know that so many
32:14people imagine draw right and read about him getting pregnant including me is that crazy oh he knows and
32:22even comments on yeah mara key to rival updates pointing this out to me i know when i learned that
32:27about the fan fiction i was like whatever floats your boat you know um yeah i mean i i think
32:34that's
32:34like i think that's in the deep fanfic side yeah i don't understand it but i'm like you know what
32:40you
32:41freaks you gung-ho you go get it you know if you can go get fictional me pregnant fictional me
32:48knock him up this is another one about my butt again y'all aren't ready for this one connor's story
32:55deserves a-o-t-y what's a-o-t-y mean connor's story ass of the i don't like this
33:02tweet it should be
33:03ass of the century hey whoa
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