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00:09I was always quite into having my own style, I guess.
00:14I didn't actually particularly like sewing,
00:16but I liked what you could do with it.
00:18I always had something quite different and new,
00:20and I sort of liked that.
00:22It just became very much what I did,
00:23so I went into fashion.
00:34When I was 15, I used to go and buy fabric in the daytime
00:38with my pocket money and then make something in the afternoon
00:41and then wear it out in the evening.
00:42I was always very observant about how people looked,
00:45what they wore, how they expressed themselves,
00:47hence, you know, it became a new romantic.
00:49There was Steve Strange and Boy George and Spandau Ballet.
00:53You know, we were the Blitz kids.
00:54It was quite influential at the time,
00:56and we all went on to do something quite creative with their lives.
00:58It was a great time to be a fashion student.
01:04I just slowly became aware through costume houses.
01:07There was the whole side of design
01:09that I didn't really know about.
01:12I did realize I love the narrative.
01:14I like the fact that you use costumes to tell a story
01:17and to create character,
01:19and the more I did it, the more I realized
01:21that's something that I really, really enjoyed.
01:23You know the story.
01:25You know what they're doing.
01:26You know what their relationships are.
01:28You need to show that somehow in cloth.
01:32In a period piece, you can look at references.
01:34What did they wear in Holland in blood?
01:36You know, you have the evidence,
01:38and then you can play within that.
01:40Game of Thrones is much harder in a way,
01:43because you have to make it up.
01:44I just look all the time.
01:47Even if I'm not working on something,
01:49I'll make scrapbooks.
01:50When I see an image, I'll just stick it in like a Cersei file
01:53or whatever, and I'll just keep putting things in.
01:55It just might be a texture.
01:56So when it comes around to starting a game,
01:58I'll have a little sort of file of ideas
02:01which just might influence the way it goes.
02:04And it often happens, I go,
02:05God, I forgot about that.
02:06That would be quite an interesting way.
02:07But also what you've done before sort of informs you
02:10where you need to go.
02:20Designing a series like this,
02:21first it has to come from a script that guides you.
02:24Then you start building up a picture
02:26of how this person lives and what influences them.
02:29And so if they're on the coast, they can trade
02:31and they can buy
02:31and they can become much more flamboyant.
02:34There's competition because there's more than one armorer
02:36or more than one dressmaker.
02:38It's Winterfell.
02:39What do people do in the evenings?
02:41Well, they probably embroider.
02:43You have to balance that with the other characters
02:45around them and consider the set,
02:47colors, and it just evolves.
02:50I enjoy doing the four women very much.
02:52Arya and Dany and Sansa and Cersei
02:55because they've just really become very strong.
02:58I like the initial designing and planning
03:01and coming up with the sort of ideas for the characters.
03:04working as a team to make that happen.
03:10When you finish a film or a TV series
03:12or something, that's it, that's your body of work,
03:14you feel like you've really contributed something.
03:16I'm doing it.
03:18I'm doing it.
03:20I'm doing it.
03:22I feel like you're on the back.
03:23But with the amount of time,
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